UBC Pharmacy 2017 Applicants

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It's a lot more complicated than simple "over-saturation". With our ever-growing population (and increased health knowledge), the demand for drugs will always be there. In fact, there's probably enough demand to accommodate almost all the new graduates. Of course, people are saying Pharmacy Technicians able to do most of what pharmacists can do at a lower salary, and are taking up a lot of the jobs that would've been for pharmacists a decade ago. That's true, but that's not the whole reason why the job outlook isn't so well.

In Canada, we run on a public health care model. This means the government subsidizes most of the prescription drugs we buy. Although you may not buy a lot of prescription drugs, people at an older age depend on so many of these drugs regularly, and it's a lot for the government to pay for. Now, moving along to the pharmacies itself. They make money by stocking generic brand name drugs (Simple example: Rexall's ibuprofen vs Advil). These generic companies will then give a rebate to the pharmacies once they sell it as an incentive (eg. 50%) over selling brand name drugs.

So what does the government do in this case to cut back on spendings? They cut a deal with drug companies and lower the price of generic brand name drugs, especially the common 6 that account for 1/5 of all drug sales (eg. amlodipine, atorvastatin, ramipril...). Now the government doesn't have to spend as much money on drugs (since they subsidize the amount that consumers pay). But how do they make it up to the drug companies? They then lower the rebate percentages (eg. down to 20%) so the drug companies don't lose as much money. So, everyone wins except for pharmacy owners. Because of this harsh decrease in revenue, small pharmacies are out competed by large ones like Shoppers Drug Mart. Large companies then don't see the benefits in opening another pharmacy as it will not generate as much revenue. This leads to staff cuts, work hour cuts, and halts the expansion of more pharmacies in the community.

Now, it sounds pretty bad, but the night is darkest before the dawn (yes I'm a batman fan). Pharmacy as a profession is evolving rapidly (see Blueprint for Pharmacy). Pharmacists are and will be given a much larger role in health care (physical assessments, medication reviews, immunizations, and limited prescribing rights) simply because dispensing drugs just doesn't cut it. So, good news is that the field is evolving very rapidly. Who knows, by the time we graduate, maybe the pharmacy as a profession will be completely different.

As of now, don't worry about it. No one can predict the future, and the present isn't necessarily a representation of the future. Do what you can, work hard, make connections, and learn about the field as much as you can. Start finding a part time job in large pharmacies like Shoppers and when you graduate you'll have a much higher chance of being hired as a pharmacist than other people.

Cheers!

Great post LatitudeZ! I like your positivity; there's too much doom and gloomers here on sdn...

To those still waiting all I can say is that I feel y'all. Good luck!
 
I did not get email yet..Although I already accepted U of T offer

My ego is hurt 😛
 
I asked them both questions yesterday. They said they didn't know how many invites they sent out first round. But I checked the facebook page and there is like 150 students there, so at least that much is for sure. For the second question, no one received a rejection email.

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, how did you feel like your interview went? I felt like mine went pretty badly.
A lot of people in that Facebook group are actually older students in the program too, haha.. so assuming that most people have already found their way to that group, I wouldn't say there's even 150 yet!

Still keeping my fingers crossed for everyone still waiting to hear back.
😀👍
 
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I'm still curious as to why they are sending the e-mails out in waves rather than all at once. They must be having some difficulty selecting people this year... applicant pool could be really competitive this time.
 
I think they've always done it like that, even in previous years..
But it might also be because they're waiting for people from the first round to decline so that they can start sending out offers for the second round...
 
did they send out invites in waves in previous years?
 
I asked them both questions yesterday. They said they didn't know how many invites they sent out first round. But I checked the facebook page and there is like 150 students there, so at least that much is for sure. For the second question, no one received a rejection email.

EDIT: Just out of curiosity, how did you feel like your interview went? I felt like mine went pretty badly.

Can't assume that 150+ invites were sent out, a lot of the Facebook group includes students from upper years.
 
im starting to feel the pinch as well, since I haven't heard back from them. anyways, just keep our hopes up. goodluck to everyone who haven't gotten an email! hope we do hear back from them really early next week because the wait is crazy...🙁

EDIT: I think I saw the timestamps on the 2016 forums and some people got rejection emails the same day the first acceptance emails went out.
 
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Just Curious... What's your last initial if you we're accepted. Maybe they did like A-M this week and N-Z next week?
FYl, I'm accepted and my last name starts with a K.
 
I don't think they did it based on last names, I know someone who recently got accepted with W as their last initial.
 
Yeah it's definitely not alphabetical.
I'm an L but I know people from all across the alphabet.
 
I think they sent out a majority of invites already. They are just waiting to see how many people decline before sending out the next batch to avoid accepting people from the rejected list like last year.

It wouldn't really make sense otherwise because everyone should be scored already.
 
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Hi
I was wondering when is the deadline to accept the offer (if you receive the offer last Thursday)?
 
Hi
I was wondering when is the deadline to accept the offer (if you receive the offer last Thursday)?

I don't think there is a deadline until we actually get the official offer on our SSC. That's when you actually accept the offer and pay the deposit. It's just that if you're deciding to decline the offer, they want you to e-mail them back ASAP so that they can give the spot to someone else.
 
I take it that all the silence in this thread today meant that no emails got sent out? 🙁 For those that are still waiting, hang in there. Hopefully you find out tomorrow.

For those accepted already, has anyone else been able to accept their offer on the SSC? I'm curious as to why the email from admissions got sent so early to me, although I'm not really complaining 😛 (I was able to accept and pay my deposit Friday). Maybe it had something to do when I sent my application in, I did it pretty early (beginning of November)?
 
I take it that all the silence in this thread today meant that no emails got sent out? 🙁 For those that are still waiting, hang in there. Hopefully you find out tomorrow.

For those accepted already, has anyone else been able to accept their offer on the SSC? I'm curious as to why the email from admissions got sent so early to me, although I'm not really complaining 😛 (I was able to accept and pay my deposit Friday). Maybe it had something to do when I sent my application in, I did it pretty early (beginning of November)?

Echoing these sentiments. I know my life was pretty much on hold from the moment I stepped out of the interview, and I'm hoping you guys receive an imminent resolution.

I believe Undergraduate Admissions change-of-program and re-admission requests are processed on a first-come-first-serve basis, so you're probably right. But nobody else seems to have received confirmation yet and I submitted my final application pretty late, so it'll be up to somebody else to refute it.
 
Got my offer from SSC, there was a deadline to accept and pay by July.1st, but not sure if that's the same for everyone. I submitted my phar application super late too.
 
I've just got an offer through SSC today, but I applied in early-January so maybe the date does have something to do with it.
 
Got my offer from SSC, there was a deadline to accept and pay by July.1st, but not sure if that's the same for everyone. I submitted my phar application super late too.

That scares me a little..
That's in a week and still no word on SSC..
:scared:
 
That scares me a little..
That's in a week and still no word on SSC..
:scared:

I wouldn't sweat it: at worst, you should call in on Thursday and ask. I doubt they're going to rescind your offer on a technicality. Pharmacy sets its own course registration dates, so unless you were hoping to sneak in a non-pharmacy approved elective, you'll definitely get the classes you need (if not the time-slot).
 
That scares me a little..
That's in a week and still no word on SSC..
:scared:

I believe the deadline date is relative to when you receive the email from SSC.
My Friday email said to pay my deposit by June 28th, which was one week away from Friday (21st).

I think you have a week from the day of you get the email to pay. For example, if you get it tomorrow June 25th, I'll bet you any money that the deadline for accepting will be July 2nd.
 
Got my offer from SSC, there was a deadline to accept and pay by July.1st, but not sure if that's the same for everyone. I submitted my phar application super late too.

Same. I think they just process the application case by case so emails come out at different time.
 
I still dont have my ssc acceptance either but the email said that they would be updated sometime this week i beleive so im not too worried for now..

will stress out if it doesnt show up by friday :laugh:
 
I take it that all the silence in this thread today meant that no emails got sent out? 🙁 For those that are still waiting, hang in there. Hopefully you find out tomorrow.

Echoing these sentiments. I know my life was pretty much on hold from the moment I stepped out of the interview, and I'm hoping you guys receive an imminent resolution.

Genuinely appreciate the support guys. To my fellow non-invitees, good luck tomorrow!:luck:
 
I think I was the very last one to submit my application because they called me to inform me of the interview a few days before it actually happened. Does that mean I'll be hearing from them late ._.
 
I have a feeling the SSC offers might be alphabetical..
All my friends with last names starting in "Ch-" happened to message me today telling me they got the e-mail today..
Unless that's just by some crazy coincidence.
:laugh:
 
I have a feeling the SSC offers might be alphabetical..
All my friends with last names starting in "Ch-" happened to message me today telling me they got the e-mail today..
Unless that's just by some crazy coincidence.
:laugh:
I don't think it is though! My last name does start with Ch- (I got it at 1:00am last night LOL), but my friend whose last name starts with K got his email yesterday, before me. Don't worry though, everyone gets a week to accept the offer and the registration times are on the week of July 8th I think 🙂
 
I don't think it is though! My last name does start with Ch- (I got it at 1:00am last night LOL), but my friend whose last name starts with K got his email yesterday, before me. Don't worry though, everyone gets a week to accept the offer and the registration times are on the week of July 8th I think 🙂

Dang, there goes my theory
D:
Just tryna justify why I haven't gotten mine yet haha makes me anxious!
:scared:
 
Dang, there goes my theory
D:
Just tryna justify why I haven't gotten mine yet haha makes me anxious!
:scared:
Haha don't worry so much!!! I'm sure you'll get it!! 😀 Plus, they do have reserved seats for all of us 😛
 
Do you mind sending me the email? I just want to know what they say/see the difference between a waitlist email and a rejection email. Feel free to personal message me, if you don't feel like posting it here. It'd be greatly appreciated!
 
Dear Pharmacy Applicant:

Thank you for your application to the UBC Pharmacy program and for your participation in our interview process. At this time, you have been placed on a waitlist. Although we have already sent out offers of admission, we many need to fill seats from our waitlist over the next two months. Whatever the final outcome of your application, you will be contacted via email.

At this time, we cannot provide you with information on your place on the waitlist of on your chances of admission. We will be in touch with you as soon as possible with a final decision and we appreciate your patience with this process.

If you wish to be removed from our waitlist, please let me know. I will then send you an email confirming that your pharmacy application was not successful.
 
Awww... I guess that's it for me then huh.

Well good luck on waitlist and hopefully I'll be seeing you guys next year!

EDIT: I jump to conclusions quickly.
 
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Did you get a rejection email?

Nope. I just imagine that they would send out all the admission ones first, and then rejection ones after waitlist.

Besides, my interview went THAT bad.

EDIT: Nevermind, I got the waitlist email as well. It just went to my junkmail.
 
just got rejection email..

Dear Pharmacy Applicant,

Thank you for your application to the Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences and for participating in our interview process.

I regret to inform you that, due to limited enrolment, we are unable to offer you admission to the September 2013 class. As you are likely aware, admission to the Bachelor of Science in Pharmacy program is very competitive, with many qualified applicants for a limited number of seats. Selection is based on a ranking of applicants who meet our qualifications and admission is offered to top ranked applicants. This year the Faculty received approximately 500 applications for the 224 available seats in the first-year class, making the selection process a very competitive one. As a result, we realize that many qualified applicants have been turned away.
 
What time did you get your waitlist one?

I wish they'd say where you are on the waitlist 🙁
 
What time did you get your waitlist one?

I wish they'd say where you are on the waitlist 🙁

3:33PM, you?

Should we call and at least ask how many students are on the waitlist?
 
Did anyone actually get an offer of acceptance in the second round? From what I've seen its been waitlist and rejections so far QQ
 
Same lol, guess it was a batch of 'em.

Hopefully not too many :x
 
i assume that by tomorrow we will be able to tell how many people got in second round as the FB group grows in size
 
i assume that by tomorrow we will be able to tell how many people got in second round as the FB group grows in size

Not necessarily.
I've noticed that there's quite a large number of upper years who are in that group as well so who knows!
 
Well, at least everyone who was waiting can breathe a little easier knowing they got an answer... Even if it wasn't the one they hoped for 😳

It's not over yet for the people on the waitlist, though! People may still decline their offer if they got into UofT or Waterloo or something. Many may opt to go there rather than UBC just for the entry PharmD. Hopefully those who are waiting won't wait too long. Stay strong, and good luck!
 
3:33PM, you?

Should we call and at least ask how many students are on the waitlist?
Awww :S..... I think (from reading previous year's threads), if you're either waitlisted or rejected, you can contact them to get your ranking! And good luck guys!!
 
Thanks so much for the encouragement! To those on the waitlist with me, good luck!🙂 a few more days of waiting 😉
 
Well, at least everyone who was waiting can breathe a little easier knowing they got an answer... Even if it wasn't the one they hoped for 😳

It's not over yet for the people on the waitlist, though! People may still decline their offer if they got into UofT or Waterloo or something. Many may opt to go there rather than UBC just for the entry PharmD. Hopefully those who are waiting won't wait too long. Stay strong, and good luck!
Does everyone who goes to U of T pharmacy graduate with a PharmD?
 
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