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Hi guys,

I'm strongly considering UCLA and was hoping to get opinions on the program (resident happiness, diversity of patients, autonomy, etc.) from those of you that interviewed/are residents there. Any thoughts on the program (good and bad)?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I'm referring to UCLA Reagan

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Hi guys,

I'm strongly considering UCLA and was hoping to get opinions on the program (resident happiness, diversity of patients, autonomy, etc.) from those of you that interviewed/are residents there. Any thoughts on the program (good and bad)?

Thanks in advance!

Edit: I'm referring to UCLA Reagan

What did you think of it? You are much more likely to generate a response if you are perceived as being a contributor yourself.

-AT.
 
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What did you think of it? You are much more likely to generate a response if you are perceived as being a contributor yourself.

-AT.

Good point. I loved my interview day at UCLA. I thought the residents were a very cohesive, fun, and laid back group that have lives outside of the hospital. The hospital itself is beautiful and LA is a great city. Some of my hesitations include the fact that they don't do much county training (I know interns rotate through Olive-View but since OV has it's own program I'm not sure what UCLA residents experience there is). I'm also a little worried about the transplant-heavy nature. If anyone can chime in on these aspects it would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Bump for the sake of my ROL. Anyone (hopefully some UCLA residents) care to chime in? Also, how are the didactics and teaching on the wards?

Thanks!
 
I am also ranking UCLA this year. I have a close friend who just graduated from the program. Her thoughts:

- Learning to take care of transplant/complicated patients is a good thing, because then after graduation when you are practicing as an attending/on your own, you are prepared/not scared of complicated stuff that comes your way. She feels like you don't need to see tons of straight-forward PNA cases to learn how to treat it... You don't have to be worried about not being prepared for that. Now she is practicing in the community, sees lots of bread & butter, but when she had to admit a post-transplant patient last week, it was no sweat.

- I like outpatient and a lot of medicine is outpt (both PC and subspecialties), so this is a plus for me.

- My friend said she was disappointed/upset by how infrequently she got to attend conference her intern year. She felt like she was missing out on learning. Then, it sounds like some changes were made (not sure what?) so that interns were able to attend more conferences. Also, she decided she was probably learning more by actively doing things on the wards than staring into space/nodding-off at conference.

- Also, she had generally positive things to say about the PD. She says Dr.F listens well, tries to make changes where possible, but is also "realistic" about what is possible.

- Paper orders seems like a complete drag. I have exhausted intern friends who have told me to try to choose a program that has electronic orders. The hospital is so fancy and high tech! Why not an electronic ordering system?! ... I know paper forms will get old FAST. 🙁
 
An answer to some of the above questions:

Conferences - they're mostly awesome but yes, sometimes not well attended due to the work heavy schedule. Everyone does try to go though. The teaching is great, I've had no complaints.

Grand Rounds - they use to be esoteric and research heavy but are not more clinically oriented. This year they were great.

Clinical Experience - you rotate at Olive View as an intern the SAME amount of months that Olive View residents rotate on the wards. Half of your inpatient medicine ward months as an intern are at Olive View so the bread and butter stuff is there. Honestly though, how many cellulitis, UTI, COPD exacerbation, CHF exacerbation, pneumonia cases do you have to see to be good at it? A sub-I could manage these fairly well. As a resident you can go back to Olive View or opt to go to Harbor for a month too. At one time we could go to the VA but that's gone...too bad. Keep in mind as a second and third year you are doing the majority of rotations at Santa Monica Hospital which is a community hospital and totally bread and butter. Trust me if you want bread and butter, you're not going to be lacking whatsoever.

Outpatient - great lecture series and you feel relatively competent with primary care in general. That being said, there's still much to be desired in this aspect as outpatient is definitely more challenging than inpatient in my opinion.

Transplant patients - if you can manage pancreatitis or pneumonia in someone with a liver or kidney (or both!) transplant, you can manage it in anyone. If you can manage antifungals, antivirals, and immunosuppressants, you can do it anywhere. It doesn't go the other way around. Yes you might have to rely on multiple annoying consults but you're learning from it. A lot of my friends at outside programs don't even know how to dose tacrolimus and don't even know what PTLD is or how to manage GVHD. Bone marrow transplants are a great learning experience.

Forms - yes they suck and yes I hate filling out these things. Oh well. It's made up for being able to give verbal orders to most nurses. Aside from ordering tests and antibiotics you don't really need to get up and fill out a form in the middle of the night (unless it's a STAT echo, or STAT CT chest, etc). As a nightfloater, there have been times I've had to see patients less than 5 times (obviously nothing acute was going on - no chest pain, dyspnea or falls).

Match list - superb. 100% match rate in GI and cards in the last 5 years (well one guy didn't match initially since he kind of told programs they weren't for him but few months later did get into a program because of a phone call). Two years ago 14 out of 14 people matched into cards.

Extracurricular - the mantra, work hard play hard applies. As an intern, we went out pre-call, post-call, normal days - you name it. Sure I didn't stay up till 3 am pre-call but we went to dinner together maybe 4 out of 7 nights a week. We regularly get together in and out of the hospital. You're living in LA, so much to do. We get along well and we want residents who play nice too.

Emergency Room - the Reagan ER leaves much to be desired. In a way this is good since you'll be doing much of the initial diagnosis. I mean don't get me wrong, they stabilize the patient and get them ready to be admitted, but that's kind of about it (it's really dependent on who's working that day/night). Don't expect Harbor-UCLA or USC Emergency Medicine quality but they do good enough.

Hospital - beautiful. An I.M. Pei creation. And not that it's the most important thing in the world, the hospital food is GOOD. Find me a hospital with better food and I will buy you a shot of Patron...seriously.

In conclusion: UCLA was probably one of the best choices I've made in my career. I've had some of the best friends and experiences here. I matched in the specialty I wanted and made some lifelong contacts. Yes you can get ur ass kicked but isn't that what you want in a residency program? Wherever you guys go, learn to manage stress in a healthy manner. Complain when you can change something but keep it to yourself if there's nothing that can be done. You'll do well.
 
Agreed. IMHO if you can manage transplant patients you can manage anything.

An answer to some of the above questions:

Conferences - they're mostly awesome but yes, sometimes not well attended due to the work heavy schedule. Everyone does try to go though. The teaching is great, I've had no complaints.

Grand Rounds - they use to be esoteric and research heavy but are not more clinically oriented. This year they were great.

Clinical Experience - you rotate at Olive View as an intern the SAME amount of months that Olive View residents rotate on the wards. Half of your inpatient medicine ward months as an intern are at Olive View so the bread and butter stuff is there. Honestly though, how many cellulitis, UTI, COPD exacerbation, CHF exacerbation, pneumonia cases do you have to see to be good at it? A sub-I could manage these fairly well. As a resident you can go back to Olive View or opt to go to Harbor for a month too. At one time we could go to the VA but that's gone...too bad. Keep in mind as a second and third year you are doing the majority of rotations at Santa Monica Hospital which is a community hospital and totally bread and butter. Trust me if you want bread and butter, you're not going to be lacking whatsoever.

Outpatient - great lecture series and you feel relatively competent with primary care in general. That being said, there's still much to be desired in this aspect as outpatient is definitely more challenging than inpatient in my opinion.

Transplant patients - if you can manage pancreatitis or pneumonia in someone with a liver or kidney (or both!) transplant, you can manage it in anyone. If you can manage antifungals, antivirals, and immunosuppressants, you can do it anywhere. It doesn't go the other way around. Yes you might have to rely on multiple annoying consults but you're learning from it. A lot of my friends at outside programs don't even know how to dose tacrolimus and don't even know what PTLD is or how to manage GVHD. Bone marrow transplants are a great learning experience.

Forms - yes they suck and yes I hate filling out these things. Oh well. It's made up for being able to give verbal orders to most nurses. Aside from ordering tests and antibiotics you don't really need to get up and fill out a form in the middle of the night (unless it's a STAT echo, or STAT CT chest, etc). As a nightfloater, there have been times I've had to see patients less than 5 times (obviously nothing acute was going on - no chest pain, dyspnea or falls).

Match list - superb. 100% match rate in GI and cards in the last 5 years (well one guy didn't match initially since he kind of told programs they weren't for him but few months later did get into a program because of a phone call). Two years ago 14 out of 14 people matched into cards.

Extracurricular - the mantra, work hard play hard applies. As an intern, we went out pre-call, post-call, normal days - you name it. Sure I didn't stay up till 3 am pre-call but we went to dinner together maybe 4 out of 7 nights a week. We regularly get together in and out of the hospital. You're living in LA, so much to do. We get along well and we want residents who play nice too.

Emergency Room - the Reagan ER leaves much to be desired. In a way this is good since you'll be doing much of the initial diagnosis. I mean don't get me wrong, they stabilize the patient and get them ready to be admitted, but that's kind of about it (it's really dependent on who's working that day/night). Don't expect Harbor-UCLA or USC Emergency Medicine quality but they do good enough.

Hospital - beautiful. An I.M. Pei creation. And not that it's the most important thing in the world, the hospital food is GOOD. Find me a hospital with better food and I will buy you a shot of Patron...seriously.

In conclusion: UCLA was probably one of the best choices I've made in my career. I've had some of the best friends and experiences here. I matched in the specialty I wanted and made some lifelong contacts. Yes you can get ur ass kicked but isn't that what you want in a residency program? Wherever you guys go, learn to manage stress in a healthy manner. Complain when you can change something but keep it to yourself if there's nothing that can be done. You'll do well.
 
I forgot to mention one last major plus...the health insurance!

Everything you get done within the ucla system is free...from delivery of your (or your spouse's baby), to any appointments seen by a ucla or ucla affiliated physician to any and all medications to any and all diagnostic procedures needed. You really do pay nothing. I would suspect surgeries if needed are also covered (maybe not things like breast augmentation but you get the idea).
 
I forgot to mention one last major plus...the health insurance!

Everything you get done within the ucla system is free...from delivery of your (or your spouse's baby), to any appointments seen by a ucla or ucla affiliated physician to any and all medications to any and all diagnostic procedures needed. You really do pay nothing. I would suspect surgeries if needed are also covered (maybe not things like breast augmentation but you get the idea).

I have heard great things about UCLA but I've also heard that the higher-ups aren't as approachable because it's such a large institution. You apparently don't see the chair that much and there's not much in terms of mentorship. There's a lot of research going around but you're going to have to dig up opportunities on your own. The hospital is amazing and the atmosphere is supposedly very chill. The girl giving me a tour said her ID attending was also her spinning instructor, lol. That's LA for ya.
 
I have heard great things about UCLA but I've also heard that the higher-ups aren't as approachable because it's such a large institution. You apparently don't see the chair that much and there's not much in terms of mentorship. There's a lot of research going around but you're going to have to dig up opportunities on your own. The hospital is amazing and the atmosphere is supposedly very chill. The girl giving me a tour said her ID attending was also her spinning instructor, lol. That's LA for ya.

Would agree with above.
 
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