UOP vs UCSF vs USC Pharmacy School

[swapan6]

I know there are so many threads about this but all of them are outdated. What do you guys think would be the pros and cons of attending these schools. Your insights will be very helpful. UOP and UCSF are 3-years programs while USC is a 4-year program.

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[BC_89]

Two things you look for in a program:

1) Regional Accreditation (None of this pre-candidate or national accreditation status)
2) Cost

Though 3 year programs (I am in one myself), crunch the cost of living with tuition and other sources. I do not see any benefit of going to an institute that costs more money for the same degree. If the numbers are in your favor when comparing cost vs opportunity cost with a desire to do retail, I'd go to an accelerated program and get to a job site quicker rather than later.

 

[zona2016]

UCSF is the rare gem of being in state and a 3 year program and being near a lot of biotech companies, so by far that is the best program.
USC and UOP are not good options just because of the student loan debt is extreme for those programs which would make your ROI pretty bad long term. I've heard of USC students getting up to 300-400k in debt for at most a low six-figure income as a pharmacist in a heavily taxed state. The numbers are just not there period because you can always go to a cheaper school somewhere in the US.

 

[BMBiology]

UCSF is the rare gem of being in state and a 3 year program and being near a lot of biotech companies, so by far that is the best program.
USC and UOP are not good options just because of the student loan debt is extreme for those programs which would make your ROI pretty bad long term. I've heard of USC students getting up to 300-400k in debt for at most a low six-figure income as a pharmacist in a heavily taxed state. The numbers are just not there period because you can always go to a cheaper school somewhere in the US.

Ucsf is not #1 based on the number of students who failed the CPJE.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

I know there are so many threads about this but all of them are outdated. What do you guys think would be the pros and cons of attending these schools. Your insights will be very helpful. UOP and UCSF are 3-years programs while USC is a 4-year program.

Pros: You get an excuse to live in California for 3-4 years.

Cons: You will likely be unemployed in 3-4 years.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I'd go to the cheapest one.

 

[lcow2004]

I think the reputation of UCSF is really going down. They already lost their place as #1 pharmacy school and now recently with the whole CPJE cheating scandal. I'm sure this is going to be on the minds of everyone when graduates are out looking for a job or residency.

 

[RxEvileye]

I think the reputation of UCSF is really going down. They already lost their place as #1 pharmacy school and now recently with the whole CPJE cheating scandal. I'm sure this is going to be on the minds of everyone when graduates are out looking for a job or residency.

I found a job shortly after residency (over half of my class matched last year and a good 10% or so do fellowships or industry) and on our school's graduate survey only about 10% put "To Be Determined" for their immediate plans after graduation. My only difficulty finding a job was due to moving into a saturated area, but I still got interviews for "clinical" positions and had an outpatient offer. My impression is that joblessness is not common for my class, and it probably helps going to an older established school.

Could you clarify what you mean by the whole CPJE cheating scandal? As far as I know, the only confirmed person was a UCSD student but people were accusing various schools here and on Reddit.

Ucsf is not #1 based on the number of students who failed the CPJE.

You are right, the recent percentages have been lower: Examination Pass Rates - California State Board of Pharmacy

I think our APPEs and training prepared us well for residency, but not necessarily board exam knowledge. It was relatively new my year for the school to provide RxPrep to us and they have made a lot of changes to our review course at the end of school. When the revamped 3-year curriculum students start graduating, we will see if all the changes they made pay off in terms of board exam pass rates. I personally like a lot of the changes they have made to the curriculum itself (all Pass/No Pass, integrated blocks, earlier longitudinal IPPEs, "synthesis weeks" for material review, etc.) regardless of debate about the 4-year to 3-year change.

 

[BMBiology]

I found a job shortly after residency (over half of my class matched last year and a good 10% or so do fellowships or industry) and on our school's graduate survey only about 10% put "To Be Determined" for their immediate plans after graduation. My only difficulty finding a job was due to moving into a saturated area, but I still got interviews for "clinical" positions and had an outpatient offer. My impression is that joblessness is not common for my class, and it probably helps going to an older established school.

Could you clarify what you mean by the whole CPJE cheating scandal? As far as I know, the only confirmed person was a UCSD student but people were accusing various schools here and on Reddit.



You are right, the recent percentages have been lower: Examination Pass Rates - California State Board of Pharmacy

I think our APPEs and training prepared us well for residency, but not necessarily board exam knowledge. It was relatively new my year for the school to provide RxPrep to us and they have made a lot of changes to our review course at the end of school. When the revamped 3-year curriculum students start graduating, we will see if all the changes they made pay off in terms of board exam pass rates. I personally like a lot of the changes they have made to the curriculum itself (all Pass/No Pass, integrated blocks, earlier longitudinal IPPEs, "synthesis weeks" for material review, etc.) regardless of debate about the 4-year to 3-year change.

It is not just the CPJE, UCSF students also have a subpar passage rate on the NAPLEX. I am talking about minimum competency here.

 

[RxEvileye]

It is not just the CPJE, UCSF students also have a subpar passage rate on the NAPLEX. I am talking about minimum competency here.

Yes, I referenced board exams in general and the CPJE pages included some NAPLEX stats as well if you scroll down.

They are also here: https://nabp.pharmacy/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/NAPLEX-Pass-Rates-August-2019.pdf

Same or higher than USC and UOP 2016-2017, dropped recently to just over 90% in 2018.

If about 12 graduates (that would be 10% of my UCSF class of ~120) weren't prepared for the tests but were able to get residencies or jobs after a retake, I am less inclined to focus on temporary fluctuations of 5-10% in board exam pass rates as heavily as this forum does unless it continues to drop year after year. There are many factors that could have led to this drop other than what I mentioned.

Not sure what you define minimum competency as, but much of board exam prep was memorize-and-regurgitate. I never did non-sterile compounding much during rotations or after graduation, but they have a focus on things like the steps to make capsules and suppositories. I don't think a single classmate became a compounding pharmacist yet. Biostatistics was a large portion of the test (I love the topic and passed both boards), but our single-quarter biostats class was P/NP while others were graded so classmates largely ignored it during didactics. This has changed since 2018. Not trying to come up with excuses as ideally everyone would pass at well-known schools the first try, but careful focusing on boards as a sole reason to choose a school or not.

Check out the placement survey stats for some of the other California schools for pre-pharmacy students who aim to do residency and land the coveted "clinical" jobs:

UCSF 86% matched who tried, most (like me) their top 1-2 choice program: Graduation Rate and Graduate Performance | PharmD Degree Program | UCSF

Comparable to USC but not specific: Graduation and Post-Graduation Data · USC School of Pharmacy

Less than 60 of ~200 UOP grads did any postgraduate program: Doctor of Pharmacy Program Outcomes Data

WesternU less than 20% residency and 24% unknown/no response for job: Vital Statistics | College of Pharmacy

Touro 33 to 41 students residency or fellowship (I believe <50% of class): http://cop.tu.edu/COP_StudentPerformanceAccreditation.pdf

 

[PharmtoCS]

The job market for pharmacists is terrible and getting worse by the year. With the direction pharmacy is going I would seriously consider a different profession.

Computer programming, finance, accounting, engineering, the trades, etc. pay as well as pharmacy if not better, offer far better job prospects and work conditions, and do not require you to take out $200k+ in loans and spend an additional 4 years of your life in school. Jobs in these professions are actually quite abundant in California, whereas even if you do get into a California pharmacy school (not difficult by any means) you would most definitely have to move out of state due to the lack of jobs in California.

 

[silverkingfish88]

Curious for USC applicants, when were you interviewed/when did they accept or get back to you? Haven't been invited for an interview yet and kinda nervous, really really aiming for USC.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

Curious for USC applicants, when were you interviewed/when did they accept or get back to you? Haven't been invited for an interview yet and kinda nervous, really really aiming for USC.

You really want to go for a $50k/ year job with $300k+ in debt? Getting in is the easy part. Figuring out how to get out once you’ve mortgaged your future with an insurmountable debt load is the hard part.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

Curious for USC applicants, when were you interviewed/when did they accept or get back to you? Haven't been invited for an interview yet and kinda nervous, really really aiming for USC.

I am not trolling either. From a financial standpoint USC is one of the worst schools to go to since you can’t take out federal loans and won’t qualify for PSLF. With a $70-80k tuition per year that is over $300k not including compound interest by the time you’re done, all for what? Staying in LA?

I will also add that there is this unspoken expectation that USC’s alumni network/brand name is strong and therefore you will get a job upon graduating, but when there are no jobs there are no jobs no matter how hard you network. In the past few months Walmart laid off 40% of its senior pharmacists, 2 pharmacy chains went out of business and are closing shop, BLS projected a 0% growth for pharmacist jobs from 2018-2028 and starting pay has dropped to the $30’s/hr with only 24-32 hrs/week guaranteed. Do you really still want to go to pharmacy school now when you won’t even be looking for a job until 5 years from now?

Best thing that could happen is to not get in/drop out now and pursue a different career. Avoid pharmacy, avoid it at ALL costs.

 

[tsaelee]

UOP is the best choice in my opinion. If you're looking at the financial aspect, UOP and UCSF would be the least expensive pharmacy schools of the three. However, because UCSF is in SF the board/food cost is probably going to be around 20K tbh. I go to uop currently and board + food is probably half of what you're going to spend compared to UCSF or USC. Also, all three of these universities have the brand name in California that can easily get you hired. Honestly all of these schools are great and the only reason there will be difficulty in finding a job is the person applying for them, a school can only go so far in teaching you. Also, if people are worried about the board exams and the cpje you should probably look at yourself and think if you really think you're going to be in the bottom 10% of your pharmacy class.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

UOP is the best choice in my opinion. If you're looking at the financial aspect, UOP and UCSF would be the least expensive pharmacy schools of the three. However, because UCSF is in SF the board/food cost is probably going to be around 20K tbh. I go to uop currently and board + food is probably half of what you're going to spend compared to UCSF or USC. Also, all three of these universities have the brand name in California that can easily get you hired. Honestly all of these schools are great and the only reason there will be difficulty in finding a job is the person applying for them, a school can only go so far in teaching you. Also, if people are worried about the board exams and the cpje you should probably look at yourself and think if you really think you're going to be in the bottom 10% of your pharmacy class.

Lol, UOP is a second rate school that doesn’t come close to the brand name that UCSF or USC has (I’ll still put it over Chapman, KGI, WCU etc. though). You guys churn out 21 year old pharmacists who have zero life experience and therefore zero maturity/professionalism at dealing with situations in the pharmacy, and from what I hear since there are 300 of you per class, most of you can’t even find real/paid internships so you end up volunteering to get experience instead. I’ve interviewed a few UOP grads for residency and the basic clinical knowledge for these students are extremely subpar (and mind you, these are students with >3.8 GPAs which is why we even bothered interviewing them). Never doing that again.

 

[rxkrafted]

I still don't understand these pre-pharm kids. They see all these warnings but they think we're bluffing. Unless you're getting a full-ride to pharm school and have a job lined up after graduation, it isn't feasible to become a pharmacist. Stop googling "average pharmacist salary" and look into the job market and cost/benefit ratio. You're wasting 3-4 years of extra schooling and >200K loans for a possible job that starts you off at 80-100K (if you get lucky enough to land a job competing against thousands of other applicants).
Why risk the chance of possibly being unemployed with >200K loans with a chance at earning ~65-70K/year (assuming PAYE, which most new grad do nowadays)?

 

[Sine Cura]

It's actually 200 per class if you want to start with "facts" about uop, and since it is possible to be apart of there 2+3 prepharm program it's very unlikely for a 16 year old to start college at pacific. Just another factoid you should probably get checked. Also, I don't think a few uop grads can make up your decision on an entire university that's been around as long as usc or ucsf. And then for residency applicants that seems like a fault on both parties; pharmDs should have done more work at a clinical setting and the ones who gave them interviews should of looked more into their resumes than just a gpa that people can cheat there way towards, you should probably know this since cheating is a common thing at any university.

Hiring managers or RPDs don't have to care about disregarding all UoP students or grads based on a few subpar applicants. For retail they only care about a pulse (but they can be far more picky than in the past barring ****ty areas like the vast inland portion of California) and everything else they can recruit nationally.

 

[rxkrafted]

Because they want to be pharmacists it's as simple as that. This question can go to any major not just pre-pharmacy students. Money isn't the only reason you choose a career and honestly $200K in loans isn't that much in the long run if you're smart with your money. For instance, if you recently graduated from pharm school and found a job right away hopefully close to home, honestly just move back home with your parents for I'd say 4 years max and your loans would be gone like that. AND 80-100K a year is amazing since you're probably going to be single when you get out of school and the only people who would have a problem with this is if you spend your money stupidly like I'm assuming you likely did.

You're delusional if you think most pre-pharm students are doing pharmacy for gratification and not money. You think they'll still pursue pharmacy if the average salary was 50K?
How can you say $200K is not much for someone who won't bring in even half that amount (after taxes) annually. I like that you are being optimistic but a new grad finding a job right away near their home is very unlikely nowadays...

 

[PSOP Student]

Because they want to be pharmacists it's as simple as that. This question can go to any major not just pre-pharmacy students. Money isn't the only reason you choose a career and honestly $200K in loans isn't that much in the long run if you're smart with your money.

I know more than a few recent UOP grads who can't find jobs at this very moment. The fact that you think $200K is "not that much" says a lot about your ignorance. I bet $300K is not a lot either. You should talk with loan officers right now since you are clearly disconnected with reality. Loan specialist are telling student NOT to go into pharmacy at this very moment.

 

[PharmtoCS]

Because they want to be pharmacists it's as simple as that. This question can go to any major not just pre-pharmacy students. Money isn't the only reason you choose a career and honestly $200K in loans isn't that much in the long run if you're smart with your money. For instance, if you recently graduated from pharm school and found a job right away hopefully close to home, honestly just move back home with your parents for I'd say 4 years max and your loans would be gone like that. AND 80-100K a year is amazing since you're probably going to be single when you get out of school and the only people who would have a problem with this is if you spend your money stupidly like I'm assuming you likely did.

If you're from the Greater Los Angeles, San Diego, or SF Bay Area and thinking about working near home, fuhgeddaboudit. You're pretty much going to have to rent a one-way Uhaul to Central California or out of state if you want to have a job, and that is assuming those areas don't get completely saturated by the time you finish school.

 

[PSOP Student]

Central California...

fuhgeddaboudit

 

[Sine Cura]

It doesn't even matter if they are pre-pharmacy students, your answer to this question can go to any person interested in pharmacy via chem majors, bio majors, biochem majors; are you saying anyone pursuing pharmacy is just in it for money; look at pre-dents & pre-meds those careers make twice as much as pharmacists but you don't see people pursuing these careers. Some pre-pharms I agree are immature but if universities want to give them a chance then there's no reason not to. There's so many reasons to choose a career from money to parents pushing you towards a certain path and I feel if anyone denies these as certain reasons for choosing their career is probably to delusional to admit it.

Pharmacy is the path of least resistance compared to dental or medicine and thus attracts academically marginal students who wouldn't ever get into dental school or medical school. Just look at a few of these SDN topics...

- What do (pharmacy) schools think of a W on a transcript?
- PharmCAS wrong personal statement
- Chances to getting into good pharmacy schools? Success stories?

These types of marginal people, if they even get a job, if they can even pass NAPLEX and MPJE, will just ride the tax bomb train to oblivion or "it'll just work out." Somehow

 

[rxkrafted]

It doesn't even matter if they are pre-pharmacy students, your answer to this question can go to any person interested in pharmacy via chem majors, bio majors, biochem majors; are you saying anyone pursuing pharmacy is just in it for money; look at pre-dents & pre-meds those careers make twice as much as pharmacists but you don't see people pursuing these careers. Some pre-pharms I agree are immature but if universities want to give them a chance then there's no reason not to. There's so many reasons to choose a career from money to parents pushing you towards a certain path and I feel if anyone denies these as certain reasons for choosing their career is probably to delusional to admit it.

Stop comparing pharmacy to dental and medicine. How many dental, med, or any other professional schools that gives out doctorate degrees do you know of that lets you get in without having to take the standardized exams (e.g. MCAT)? Pharmacy schools already know that they saturated the market so bad that they want to make it easier for future students to get in because admission rates are lower. I'm not even exaggerating when I say that they'll accept students with a 2.5 GPA and no PCAT score. I don't know why you are in denial... are you a pharm student ?

 

[Timbo]

One thing about loans is why would you want to pay everything as early as possible to a university that got you into so much debt. And loan specialists, why not say that about dental or med or any grad school that has tuition, why go to college if your going to have so much debt in the end, why doesn't everyone just not go to a community college since its cheaper and then transfer to a 4 year, loans are gonna be piling and piling no matter what career u have. And in the long run there are so many pharmacists, dentists, physicians who are still paying off loans when they could pay it off easily, but they choose not too because.... why give the university all the money when you can use it for something that makes you happy. And uop grad, try every single university in the nation with people who just graduated

You're not paying your loans to the university. You're paying them to whoever provided you the loan, the government or bank. You want to pay them ASAP because of interest. If they're federal loans, it's about 7% interest. If they're refinance private, maybe you can bring it down to ~4%. Unless you find a source of investment that provides higher return in interest, you'd be best paying your loans ASAP. You think you can just pay the minimum on your loans and life will be all rosy, but loans are a huge burden to carry. Unless you're on IBR, your minimum payment is still at least 1/3 of your take home. Your credit score is affected. They affect your ability to buy a home or even a car. Talk about doing what you love as much as you want, but you must really not give a **** about saving for retirement, buying a home, raising a family, or living where you want to live if you choose pharmacy.

Actually dental and med school aren't the best financial decision either. There are many fields that will provide +$80k salary with only a bachelor's or master's with minimal debt. However pharmacy is by far the worst in healthcare due to relatively low salary (and still declining btw due to saturation), negative job growth, and declining job opportunities.

 

[PharmtoCS]

For someone whose supposed to be a pharmacist, u honestly **** on your own profession so much where the only question I can think of is why are you staying in a career you seem to hate.

Problem is most people don't come to hate the profession until AFTER they've been thrown in the trenches. By that time it's too late since you're either almost done with school or graduated yet stuck with $200k+ in loans.

It's easy to be "passionate" about the profession when you haven't had to endure the real dirty work that comes with it.

 

[Timbo]

For someone whose supposed to be a pharmacist, u honestly **** on your own profession so much where the only question I can think of is why are you staying in a career you seem to hate.

Never said I hated it. My hospital gig is actually pretty sweet. I've just been talking to 2019 grads and P4s so I know what is happening. Employers are no longer showing up to job fairs and when they do, they have nothing to offer. A large percentage of 2019 grads are still unemployed (compared that to >90% of my class having already jobs/residencies lined up even before we graduated). New retail salaries have dropped to $50 or less. How is that ****ting on the profession? I'm just giving you facts of what's really happening right now. If I ever lose my current job or have to move and the best offer I can get is like $40/hr then **** this profession. I don't know about you, but I have bills to worry about, loans, retirement, a home, etc. I love pharmacy but it is not my one and only love and pretty sure everyone who says it is are just lying to themselves.

 

[PSOP Student]

For someone whose supposed to be a pharmacist, u honestly **** on your own profession so much where the only question I can think of is why are you staying in a career you seem to hate.

Clearly you have no real world experience. I wonder if you even read the news as to what has been going on in pharmacy.

 

[Pharmacy is a Scam]

Clearly you have no real world experience. I wonder if you even read the news as to what has been going on in pharmacy.

No point arguing with a UOP student dude. Read my post above, they are all 18-21 year olds with no maturity or life experience. The more he/she talks the more it becomes obvious that their perspective and assessment of everything is way off base.

 

[Sine Cura]

Can I attack this UoP person's ****ty grammar like he/she is attacking people for "hating" pharmacy and "supposedly" being a pharmacist like we are somehow supposed to conflate our "career" with our self-identity?

What is this? 1960?

 

[tsaelee]

If you guys want to keep arguing or criticizing me I'm cool with that. But I want to get back to the topic that this network is supposed to be about. In a financial standpoint which should be the main motive for anyone applying, uop is the cheapest in my opinion if we include tuition, housing, and food.

 

[rxkrafted]

If you guys want to keep arguing or criticizing me I'm cool with that. But I want to get back to the topic that this network is supposed to be about. In a financial standpoint which should be the main motive for anyone applying, uop is the cheapest in my opinion if we include tuition, housing, and food.

Tuition = $216,566
Housing/food = ~$20K/year
Total = $276,566
You'll be looking at close to $300K including accruing interest during your time in school... If this is your cheapest option and you aren't worried about job security after graduation, then you need to seek help right now.

Even if you run the numbers for a loan repayment program (i.e. PAYE), you'll be deducting $750-850/month from your paycheck for 20 years then paying a fat tax bomb on $490K forgiven... You need to do your homework first before asking your parents for money.

 

[tsaelee]

I'd say housing is around half of that in Stockton you can find a room for $450 - 500 for a master bedroom + food if you cook regularly and want to splurge sometimes is $5k a year; you only did statistics for uop try it for ucsf & usc and then see if uop is not the cheapest option

 

[PharmtoCS]

I'd say housing is around half of that in Stockton you can find a room for $450 - 500 for a master bedroom + food if you cook regularly and want to splurge sometimes is $5k a year; you only did statistics for uop try it for ucsf & usc and then see if uop is not the cheapest option

Your cheapest option is choosing a profession other than pharmacy.

 

[Chem7]

The job market for pharmacists is terrible and getting worse by the year. With the direction pharmacy is going I would seriously consider a different profession.

Computer programming, finance, accounting, engineering, the trades, etc. pay as well as pharmacy if not better, offer far better job prospects and work conditions, and do not require you to take out $200k+ in loans and spend an additional 4 years of your life in school. Jobs in these professions are actually quite abundant in California, whereas even if you do get into a California pharmacy school (not difficult by any means) you would most definitely have to move out of state due to the lack of jobs in California.

Are you moving out of California?

 

[Chem7]

Problem is most people don't come to hate the profession until AFTER they've been thrown in the trenches. By that time it's too late since you're either almost done with school or graduated yet stuck with $200k+ in loans.

It's easy to be "passionate" about the profession when you haven't had to endure the real dirty work that comes with it.

Have you tried computer programming? . There are short and intense booth camps

 

[Chem7]

I still don't understand these pre-pharm kids. They see all these warnings but they think we're bluffing. Unless you're getting a full-ride to pharm school and have a job lined up after graduation, it isn't feasible to become a pharmacist. Stop googling "average pharmacist salary" and look into the job market and cost/benefit ratio. You're wasting 3-4 years of extra schooling and >200K loans for a possible job that starts you off at 80-100K (if you get lucky enough to land a job competing against thousands of other applicants).
Why risk the chance of possibly being unemployed with >200K loans with a chance at earning ~65-70K/year (assuming PAYE, which most new grad do nowadays)?

I don't understand how someone who seems to be so bitter and frustrated, who is also complaining about jobs, loans, etc, have extra time to come to a forum to give advice.

 

[Sine Cura]

Who has time to resurrect old threads

 

[rxkrafted]

I don't understand how someone who seems to be so bitter and frustrated, who is also complaining about jobs, loans, etc, have extra time to come to a forum to give advice.

Who's bitter and frustrated? I have a job that i enjoy and collecting my pay. you do you bro. You'll most likely be another one of those applications hitting the trashcan.

 

[Chem7]

Who's bitter and frustrated? I have a job that i enjoy and collecting my pay. you do you bro. You'll most likely be another one of those applications hitting the trashcan.

You are frustrated, bitter, unhappy, stressed out, etc. By the way, you collect your pay, by wasting your time writing all your frustrations on this forum, right?
A psychologist, or some therapy, might help out with your state of mind.

 

[deleted898085]

You are frustrated, bitter, unhappy, stressed out, etc. By the way, you collect your pay, by wasting your time writing all your frustrations on this forum, right?
A psychologist, or some therapy, might help out with your state of mind.

Dang!
Do you know how bad this profession is? Do you know acceptance rate is 83%, like community colleges' acceptance rate?
They just want to save naive students from being taken advantage by pharmacy schools. If you have rich parents, then there's no argument here.

 

[Sine Cura]

You are frustrated, bitter, unhappy, stressed out, etc. By the way, you collect your pay, by wasting your time writing all your frustrations on this forum, right?
A psychologist, or some therapy, might help out with your state of mind.

If you set up direct deposit you don't have to "collect" anything manually, thus freeing up time to ****post on Internet forums

 

[rxkrafted]

You are frustrated, bitter, unhappy, stressed out, etc. By the way, you collect your pay, by wasting your time writing all your frustrations on this forum, right?
A psychologist, or some therapy, might help out with your state of mind.

Lol why should I be frustrated, bitter, etc? I told you I'm comfortable with my full-time job and I'm stress-free lol. Where did you detect any sense of frustration from my posts? I'm entertained by your reactions so I'll continue to see what you have to say next.

 

[PharmtoCS]

You are frustrated, bitter, unhappy, stressed out, etc. By the way, you collect your pay, by wasting your time writing all your frustrations on this forum, right?
A psychologist, or some therapy, might help out with your state of mind.

Chances are that you will be too if you go into pharmacy.

 

[Chem7]

Chances are that you will be too if you go into pharmacy.

No chances. The problem is that you chose this career for the wrong reasons. You must look for another path.

 

[Chem7]

Lol why should I be frustrated, bitter, etc? I told you I'm comfortable with my full-time job and I'm stress-free lol. Where did you detect any sense of frustration from my posts? I'm entertained by your reactions so I'll continue to see what you have to say next.

You definitely in the wrong field. Try marketing; you could use your persuasion skill better there. Pharmacy isn't for you.

 

[PharmtoCS]

No chances. The problem is that you chose this career for the wrong reasons. You must look for another path.

So why pharmacy?