upgrades and fails on transcript

[engdoc]

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hello all ... if i decide to redo some of my engineering courses (by redo i mean upgrade the mark) from lets say a C to an A or something is that bad.
do medical schools frown upon upgraded courses.

ALSO do medical schools frown upon one fail that was redone and gotten an A in...

thanks

 

[njbmd]

Hi there,
I am going to comment on allopathic medical school admissions because that is the type of admissions that I do. Your GPA is going to be calculated taking into consideration every course that you have taken above secondary school. Your retakes will be averaged with the original grades so that F averaged with an A comes out to be a C.

The average GPA for allopathic medical school matriculants was 3.6 in 2004 (the last year that we have data). It has steadily increased every year so I have no evidence that the numbers will decrease for the classes that entered last year and this year. The average MCAT score was 30 for allopathic medical school matriculants so I have no reason to believe that these scores will drop either.

Calculate your GPA (total) and look at your MCAT score. Figure out whare you land based on those numbers. You are going to be above average, average or below average. After that, figure out what else you bring to your application in terms of extracurriculars. If you are weak in one aspect of your application, figure out what you are going to do to strengthen it.

Are there folks in medical school in this country who did re-takes on courses? Yes there are. Are there folks in medical school in this country who overcame low undergrad GPAs? Yes, but it takes lots of time, work and dedication to achieve your goal.

njbmd 🙂

 

[RxnMan]

hello all ... if i decide to redo some of my engineering courses (by redo i mean upgrade the mark) from lets say a C to an A or something is that bad.
do medical schools frown upon upgraded courses.

ALSO do medical schools frown upon one fail that was redone and gotten an A in...

thanks

Like NJBMD said, if you redo a course, the best possible outcome is making an A and an F go to a double-C. Given that you're talking engineering, that's a lot of skull-sweat for low gain. Not very efficient. ADCOMs, while they generally understand that engineering is a harder major than others, want to see that high GPA first.

Why not take a bunch of easier courses, like the pre-reqs, if you haven't taken them already, or some higher-division bio classes? Then those are new classes (no AMCAS averaging) and they look better to the ADCOMs too.

 

[MedSchoolFool]

For allopathic schools an A and an F will average out to a C. For osteopathic schools, however, an F course that is repeated with a grade of A will average out to an .... A.

But don't repeat courses you made a C in. Instead, take a more difficult class and make an A in it. For example, if you make a B in General Chem...be sure to make an A in Organic. If you make a C in Microbiology...be sure to make an A in Genetics. (I know this is easier said than done...but hard work and determination have worked miracles for me and many others before)

From what I understand, after 3 years of reading studentdoctor.com threads, is that adcoms are more interested in seeing a student move on to do well in more advanced courses, rather than seeing them go back and rehash a course they are already familiar with. But, with that being said, do repeat classes that you have less than a C in. Even if it doesn't give you any benefit for allopathic schools, it will improve your osteopathic GPA.

 

[tdkneo]

Hi there,
I am going to comment on allopathic medical school admissions because that is the type of admissions that I do. Your GPA is going to be calculated taking into consideration every course that you have taken above secondary school. Your retakes will be averaged with the original grades so that F averaged with an A comes out to be a C.

The average GPA for allopathic medical school matriculants was 3.6 in 2004 (the last year that we have data). It has steadily increased every year so I have no evidence that the numbers will decrease for the classes that entered last year and this year. The average MCAT score was 30 for allopathic medical school matriculants so I have no reason to believe that these scores will drop either.

Calculate your GPA (total) and look at your MCAT score. Figure out whare you land based on those numbers. You are going to be above average, average or below average. After that, figure out what else you bring to your application in terms of extracurriculars. If you are weak in one aspect of your application, figure out what you are going to do to strengthen it.

Are there folks in medical school in this country who did re-takes on courses? Yes there are. Are there folks in medical school in this country who overcame low undergrad GPAs? Yes, but it takes lots of time, work and dedication to achieve your goal.

njbmd 🙂

you provided me with the much need encouragements.........thank you 😀