Depends where you are in life. New grad? Yeah… def. worth it.
New grads. Really depends on their training program. One of my buddies in Atlantic just terminated new grad locums contract less than 3 weeks into a lucrative 3 month contract.
Serious question - how are you getting 120hrs of work in a week? Does it include inhouse calls?
It takes 2 to tango. Depends who is paying the locums bill and how motivated the w2 docs are to work extra.
I get that. I meant with only 168 hrs in a week, what’s your average schedule that results in 120hrs?
I spoke to a doctor leaving Kaiser in Denver. Seemed like Kaiser really tried some sh— and only backed down because they were going to lose docs so they backed off their pay cuts for more work plan… but some damage was already done and some jumped ship anyway with more likely to follow. I have a friend who works for Kaiser in Virginia - they’ve told them they aren’t paying more period. She’s happy enough but it would be the worst job in the world to me.
I hit way more than 120 Labor Day week including 1.5x for Labor Day.
My advice is …get out.
I have a friend who is a transplant from our group to Kaiser Boulder. Haven't talked to him in a bit, but he is putting in the final years before the pension kicks in. (like Reno... skiing, biking, camping, rockies... etc.) Financially, it's not amazing for a new grad, but once you put in your time you are on the gravy train in one of the coolest mountain towns in the USA. Like I said, it's decent for a long term plan. "Decent" in comparison to the Denver market (Boulder is just an extension of the city now).
Thanks for the encouragement sevo- I’m 50 too (but I like to think I don’t look it;-).
Hard to imagine that you’re so understaffed that literally no rooms will come down by 4 pm to get the first call person out from a 24 hour shift. What does this mean for the 2nd-7th person out? Just suffer until 8pm every day taking over for crnas who put their feet down on hours?
No one works w2 500k-600k/8-10 weeks off 60
This is actually quite common in USAP. Very few of them are hitting over 700k even with terrible hours. Only Houston really. Certainly not taking 8-10 weeks off to make that.
Most of the usap partners in Houston Dallas and Orlando make 750k but they are definitely working for it.
That’s interesting, maybe their pay is getting a little bump along with locums market. I’ve always been quoted 550ish by the folks I know there.
When I was looking a few years ago, a job I considered called itself a "work hard play hard" place. High pay, only 40 hrs per week - but those 40 hours were 4:1 high acuity. As a cardiac guy I'd be starting two (staggered) hearts and two more rooms, usually cath lab / EP plus something else.
My friends young optho husband got f’d with PE buyout. 3 year partnership track. 2 months from partner and he was highest producing doc. Got nothing.
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They don’t.
It is absolutely wild to me that the the whole USAP stock thing ... is/was a thing.
Second this. It’s not often that adults change their minds on anything, I’m impressed.
What boat are you in? How often do they open it for sale and who names the price and where does the price come from? I interviewed with USAP in CO 6 years ago. Interview just all seemed wrong when they were talking about their stock and what a great investment it is. What happens if you leave USAP or they lose a contract.
We’ve been saying it on this forum for years… it’s a ponzi scheme.
Yeah. Guy just broker his own deal with usap to be w2
That is pretty awesome… good negotiating on his part. There are issues and I have some ethics differences but I don’t think USAP is close to falling apart - there just isn’t a system in place anywhere to replace it. Envision and Napa have stepped out of a few smaller places as has USAP… but they all still hold the big contracts by default. Hospital admins most places just aren’t ready to step in and run the show. There is definitely a market for a consultants service to come in and explain it to them - anyone up for a start up?
Not Colorado. Although he worked for one of those Usap places in that state.
That’s not a bad deal for 46 hr week. You get gurantee schedule and not have to keep hustling like me for locums jobs.
The young docs who came out around 2012/2013/2014/2015/2016/2017 all over paid into the usap system with huge forced stock purchases
