Vet Assistant Class with Externship

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My college has recently offered a veterinary assistant class. It is just over the course of a semester. Half of the semester is dedicated to learning content such as filling out records, some lab work, and the other half consists of being able to have an externship with a vet clinic. After the semester is done, apparently they have a database where they try to help assistants find jobs. It sounds like a very valuable class, however the price tag is a hefty $2,000.

Some background information: I have a huge passion for animals, and have lived with animals all of my life. I have volunteered at a shelter for a couple of months, and I have also taken quite a few agility/obedience classes with my dog, but unfortunately I have absolutely no experience in a veterinarian setting. I am a pre-vet full time student at a local community college. I fear my lack of experience won't land me any sort of job/volunteer experience. I have e-mailed multiple clinics asking to volunteer- and have only gotten one response stating I couldn't volunteer due to being a liability. I would really like to get my feet wet in the veterinary field in order to get experience hours required to apply to vet school, but also to enforce the fact that I do want to be a Veterinarian.

Do you think this class is worth taking?
 
I have e-mailed multiple clinics asking to volunteer- and have only gotten one response stating I couldn't volunteer due to being a liability.
The liability issue is true. You might have better luck asking if you can shadow/observe.
If there are job openings for a kennel worker or assistant in a vet hospital, you can likely apply to those. It will count as veterinary experience, and you can hopefully work your way up to learning more. Even reception work would be helpful. Basically you need to start at the bottom of the totem pole.



Do you think this class is worth taking?
No way would I pay that much money for one course. Even if it resulted in an assistant certificate, I'm not sure that price tag would be worth it.

Be persistent in trying to find a vet to shadow, and keep your ears open for jobs. Try going in person - dress nice and bring a resume. And maybe cookies/bribes for the front desk staff.
If you still have connections at the shelter, talk to their vet. Talk to your family vet. ask your friend's vets (have any horsey friends?)
 
Be persistent in trying to find a vet to shadow, and keep your ears open for jobs. Try going in person - dress nice and bring a resume. And maybe cookies/bribes for the front desk staff.
If you still have connections at the shelter, talk to their vet. Talk to your family vet. ask your friend's vets (have any horsey friends?)

Yeah - I might go that route. I live in the suburbs of Chicago so I am an hour away from two different zoos. I am interested in applying for internships they have, but who is to say if I get accepted or not? Especially with no experience? I will still give it a shot though!

It has unfortunately been a while since I volunteered. School kept me busy - so I haven't been to the animal shelter in roughly a year and a half- of course that can change! 😉

I actually live in a "horse" neighborhood. Everyone in my neighborhood practically owns horses, and there is a huge stable right down the road that holds horse shows. Down the road meaning a five minute walk. I have absolutely no experience with horses though. I have spent about 3 hours total of my entire life interacting with horses, whereas I have a plethora of experience with cats and dogs. Would you recommend maybe working at the stable? I am not sure how stables/horse shows work.

I appreciate the advice thus far! 🙂
 
Look for opportunities through your school as well. If there's a pre-vet club or anything, that would be a good place to start looking for shadowing/volunteering/internship/research experiences.

I'm with Cowgirla, sounds like a cool class, but 2k for one class for one semester? No way man.
 
Yeah - I might go that route. I live in the suburbs of Chicago so I am an hour away from two different zoos. I am interested in applying for internships they have, but who is to say if I get accepted or not? Especially with no experience? I will still give it a shot though!

It has unfortunately been a while since I volunteered. School kept me busy - so I haven't been to the animal shelter in roughly a year and a half- of course that can change! 😉

I actually live in a "horse" neighborhood. Everyone in my neighborhood practically owns horses, and there is a huge stable right down the road that holds horse shows. Down the road meaning a five minute walk. I have absolutely no experience with horses though. I have spent about 3 hours total of my entire life interacting with horses, whereas I have a plethora of experience with cats and dogs. Would you recommend maybe working at the stable? I am not sure how stables/horse shows work.

I appreciate the advice thus far! 🙂

FWIW, I applied for an keeper intern position at The Maryland Zoo and got it without prior exotic experience. Just be aware if you do that, you're most likely going to be a lot of cleaning and little actually handing of the animals (depending on what portion of the zoo you're in). I lucked out in that I worked with the penguins so I actually learned to handle them, but you're not really going to get that if you're working with the lion keepers.

Loved the experience though, so definitely go for it!
 
Yeah - I might go that route. I live in the suburbs of Chicago so I am an hour away from two different zoos. I am interested in applying for internships they have, but who is to say if I get accepted or not? Especially with no experience? I will still give it a shot though!

It has unfortunately been a while since I volunteered. School kept me busy - so I haven't been to the animal shelter in roughly a year and a half- of course that can change! 😉

I actually live in a "horse" neighborhood. Everyone in my neighborhood practically owns horses, and there is a huge stable right down the road that holds horse shows. Down the road meaning a five minute walk. I have absolutely no experience with horses though. I have spent about 3 hours total of my entire life interacting with horses, whereas I have a plethora of experience with cats and dogs. Would you recommend maybe working at the stable? I am not sure how stables/horse shows work.

I appreciate the advice thus far! 🙂

I'm from around there too 🙂 Yeah, that's not an area that is too easy to get LA experience and from what I can tell the internships at Brookfield and LP are super competitive. Not to deter you from applying, BUT you may want to see if the Peggy Norbert natural history (probably butchered the name of it) has internships. I had a friend spend the summer there and loved it!

But yeah, I'm not all too interested in having to pay to get experience for my application. Although, if money's not an issue then why wouldn't you do the class?

My recommendation is to get out of Chicagoland if you can to experience LA and equine. If you're interested in zoos (and Chicago zoos don't accept), and willing to travel the Henry Doorly Zoo in Nebraska(?) seems to be really generous with the welcoming internships, you could probably end up doing stuff with the vets there too.

There are TONS of SA places around there, emergency clinics, and wildlife rehab places. I would really recommend just bugging people (in a non-annoying way) until you get your foot in the door is probably your best bet.

Do you mind if I ask what suburb you're in?
 
FWIW, I applied for an keeper intern position at The Maryland Zoo and got it without prior exotic experience. Just be aware if you do that, you're most likely going to be a lot of cleaning and little actually handing of the animals (depending on what portion of the zoo you're in).

The keeper positions look fun but you bring up a good point. They offer a nutrition or endocrinology internships as well. Nutrition looks interesting! Endocrinology involves looking at fecal samples, so naturally I am not the most interested in that one! Thanks for the encouragement! I shall definitely apply!

Look for opportunities through your school as well. If there's a pre-vet club or anything, that would be a good place to start looking for shadowing/volunteering/internship/research experiences.

Unfortunately there isn't a pre-vet club at my college. 🙁 Probably because Urbana is so far away, and everything else is out of state. The closest thing is an environmental club, which I plan on joining this semester.

I'm from around there too 🙂 Yeah, that's not an area that is too easy to get LA experience and from what I can tell the internships at Brookfield and LP are super competitive. Not to deter you from applying, BUT you may want to see if the Peggy Norbert natural history (probably butchered the name of it) has internships. I had a friend spend the summer there and loved it!

But yeah, I'm not all too interested in having to pay to get experience for my application. Although, if money's not an issue then why wouldn't you do the class?

My recommendation is to get out of Chicagoland if you can to experience LA and equine. If you're interested in zoos (and Chicago zoos don't accept), and willing to travel the Henry Doorly Zoo in Nebraska(?) seems to be really generous with the welcoming internships, you could probably end up doing stuff with the vets there too.

There are TONS of SA places around there, emergency clinics, and wildlife rehab places. I would really recommend just bugging people (in a non-annoying way) until you get your foot in the door is probably your best bet.

Do you mind if I ask what suburb you're in?

Not at all! I need all the advice I can gather! I'm from Gurnee. Northern suburbs of Chicago. Hmm you were very close! Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum. I shall look into it. While I find all animals interesting, I would prefer working with small animals or exotic as opposed to large animals.

Good to know! I shall try to apply to many places. As cowgirla mentioned earlier, is it recommended to go in person with a resume? I have also never had a job before, so I guess I have to brush up on my resume skills. I just fear being a pain. I don't want to walk in a crowded clinic asking for a job in place of a customer. There are a lot of forest preserves around here so you bring up a good point about working with wildlife. That sounds enjoyable if I can find someone who can take me! 🙂
 
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Unfortunately there isn't a pre-vet club at my college. 🙁 Probably because Urbana is so far away, and everything else is out of state. The closest thing is an environmental club, which I plan on joining this semester.

Start one!

I helped start a student organization at my school; takes some work but definitely doable (and certainly looks good on a resume).


Not at all! I need all the advice I can gather! I'm from Gurnee. Northern suburbs of Chicago. Hmm you were very close! Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum. I shall look into it. While I find all animals interesting, I would prefer working with small animals or exotic as opposed to large animals.

Good to know! I shall try to apply to many places. As cowgirla mentioned earlier, is it recommended to go in person with a resume? I have also never had a job before, so I guess I have to brush up on my resume skills. I just fear being a pain. I don't want to walk in a crowded clinic asking for a job in place of a customer. There are a lot of forest preserves around here so you bring up a good point about working with wildlife. That sounds enjoyable if I can find someone who can take me! 🙂

Pretty much. The distinction between seeming assertive and intrusive can seem fine, but you gotta just use your best judgement and go for it. In person would probably be best, e-mails and phone calls show less intent and are easier to ignore or forget about. If you don't try you'll never know what opportunities you missed out on, so don't worry about that. The worst they can do is say no.


Also, a tangential remark, it's been quite a few years, but when I was young I lived about an hour from Gurnee, west of the city.
 
I think all of those skills can be learned by just shadowing at a clinic for 100s of hours, but if you are really having a hard time finding a place that will allow you to shadow, maye it would be worth it... I go to an undergrad institution where tuition is about 23,000 per semester. Even if I take 5 classes (4 is normal here) I'm still paying $4600 per class... If the class is a normal full semester class I don't think $2000 is really that large of a fee, but if it is $2000 for say 5 lectures, then yeah, I think it is too much.

I know how hard it is to get your foot in the door. I was only able to find a hospital around Boston to let me shadow because a friend of a friend's stepmother worked there... I got many no replies before I got my yes.
 
The keeper positions look fun but you bring up a good point. They offer a nutrition or endocrinology internships as well. Nutrition looks interesting! Endocrinology involves looking at fecal samples, so naturally I am not the most interested in that one! Thanks for the encouragement! I shall definitely apply!



Unfortunately there isn't a pre-vet club at my college. 🙁 Probably because Urbana is so far away, and everything else is out of state. The closest thing is an environmental club, which I plan on joining this semester.



Not at all! I need all the advice I can gather! I'm from Gurnee. Northern suburbs of Chicago. Hmm you were very close! Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum. I shall look into it. While I find all animals interesting, I would prefer working with small animals or exotic as opposed to large animals.

Good to know! I shall try to apply to many places. As cowgirla mentioned earlier, is it recommended to go in person with a resume? I have also never had a job before, so I guess I have to brush up on my resume skills. I just fear being a pain. I don't want to walk in a crowded clinic asking for a job in place of a customer. There are a lot of forest preserves around here so you bring up a good point about working with wildlife. That sounds enjoyable if I can find someone who can take me! 🙂

I agree with the above posters that I wouldn't take the class. That's crazy expensive. I recommend going to places in person. Ask about shadowing opportunities in addition to volunteer/paid positions. Don't just look for assistant positions. Look for receptionist positions and kennel positions as well. Hopefully persistence will pay off.

In response to what I bolded above: I think you should be aware that part of being a vet assistant and veterinarian is looking at fecal samples. I actually really enjoy looking at fecal samples. Once you get it under the microscope, it doesn't seem like you are looking at feces at all. Just don't rule seomething out because you don't think you want to look at fecals. They will be a big part of your life once you get your foot in the door somewhere.
 
I was able to start volunteering at the Nutrition department at the National Zoo in Washington, DC without any prior animal experience. If you have the opportunity to volunteer there, I would strongly recommend it. You learn a TON about proper exotic animal nutrition and once you are in the volunteer program at a zoo, it is usually much easier to also start volunteering in a different department you may be more interested in.

Also, I got a full time job as a vet assistant about 5 months after starting and my experience at at the zoo was one of the areas that appealed to the interviewers most.
 
Another option is to look for Regional Occupation Programs in your city! I'm honestly not sure how much they cost since I attended the one I went to while I was in High school, but it sounds like the exact same scenario. They trained us on medical records, being a receptionist, basic animal handling and medicating procedures and then placed us in local hospitals. Definitely a HUGE help!!

So basically, see if there are similar programs already set up that cost less!

(already did part of it for you)
http://www.illinoisworknet.com/vos_...ary+Assistants&occType=overview&jobId=1&isd=y
 
Some background information: I have a huge passion for animals, and have lived with animals all of my life. I have volunteered at a shelter for a couple of months, and I have also taken quite a few agility/obedience classes with my dog, but unfortunately I have absolutely no experience in a veterinarian setting. I am a pre-vet full time student at a local community college. I fear my lack of experience won't land me any sort of job/volunteer experience. I have e-mailed multiple clinics asking to volunteer- and have only gotten one response stating I couldn't volunteer due to being a liability. I would really like to get my feet wet in the veterinary field in order to get experience hours required to apply to vet school, but also to enforce the fact that I do want to be a Veterinarian

Good to know! I shall try to apply to many places. As cowgirla mentioned earlier, is it recommended to go in person with a resume? I have also never had a job before, so I guess I have to brush up on my resume skills. I just fear being a pain. I don't want to walk in a crowded clinic asking for a job in place of a customer. There are a lot of forest preserves around here so you bring up a good point about working with wildlife. That sounds enjoyable if I can find someone who can take me!

You sound a lot like me! I started college with little experience (animal shelter and pets, mostly) but was in the pre vet track, surrounded by people who had so much more experience than me! It was a bit anxiety provoking, to say the least (actually, significantly so...) I also didn't have my first job until after my first year in college (what can I say? I was a very shy, socially anxious person back then!) I hate shadowing (always feel in the way...) and never had much luck finding clinics that were actually hiring for anything. I've gotten a lot of my experience through internships.

To answer your original question, if you have the money, I say do the class! I know I've done much better getting experience in more structured settings, as opposed to having to go out and cold call for jobs or what have you (which honestly might not be too successful for you without experience, but you never know! It's a lot of luck, to be honest). Although I have done that, I wasn't too successful. One job I interviewed for I didn't get the job because they had applicants with more experience (this was before I had the experience I have now), and the other they seem perturbed that I was planning on applying to vet school for the following year (which I didn't end up doing) and thus would only be around for a little over a year... which seems ridiculous to me, because being able to commit a whole year to an entry level job seems pretty good. But what can I say? I was living in a very classy small city full of rich people and granola eating hippie wannabes on a Canadian island where pedestrians actually truly do have the right of way and lots of other, crazy unusual things, so maybe there they're used to entry level employees actually sticking around awhile?

The keeper positions look fun but you bring up a good point. They offer a nutrition or endocrinology internships as well. Nutrition looks interesting! Endocrinology involves looking at fecal samples, so naturally I am not the most interested in that one! Thanks for the encouragement! I shall definitely apply!

First off, just as a caveat, in a nutrition internship you are likely going to be spending a lot time chopping fruit, sorting fish, prepping meat, weighing out grain, fulfilling departmental orders and probably (no--definitely...) doing dishes. You may get to learn a bit about diets in terms of knowing what's safe to feed an animal, etc., but you probably aren't going to get to learn a lot about the more scientific aspects of the animals' nutrition. You definitely won't get hands on work with animals and depending on how the zoo's set up, might not ever interact with very many people in the zoo. But I could be wrong. Not saying it's not a good experience, but just some things to keep in mind, especially for someone who wants to be a vet, as opposed to an animal care taker. Keeper internships can be great, though! I just finished an internship at the pittsburgh zoo and it was lots of fun! Although working with big cats is a dream of mine, I decided to do my internship in our children's zoo area instead as it was more hands on. I worked with a lot of so called "less dangerous" animals like native wildlife, farm animals, bats, sea lions, kangaroos, etc. and was able to touch most of them (and often do things like hand feeding, grooming, occasional skunk snuggling, etc.) So depending on the zoo, you can do very hands on keeper internships! Even if you're working with animals you don't get to directly touch it can be a very valuable learning experience. A lot (if not all) of keeper internships usually include programs in training/enrichment, which are valuable concepts to understand as a vet. Just being a part of a different aspect of the animal industry and experiencing the politics (of which there is a lot...) and sometimes rough coworker relationships (as a keeper once told me, most keepers decide they want to work with animals because they're not good with people) is valuable too.

Most zoos aren't big on letting people volunteer or shadow or do any sort of more casual commitment in their hospitals, and there aren't a lot of hospital internships open to prevet students--however there are some, if you look hard enough and are willing to go to a different city for the summer (I know this isn't always possible for everyone). The AZA website is a good place to look at internship listings.http://www.aza.org/joblistings/ You can come intern with me at the national aviary hospital-it's lots of fun! (sorry for the ad... we've been short on interns for too long cause somebody forgot to post the ad last fall and I'm going a bit crazy having to do all the cleaning by myself...) I've had many, many amazing supposedly once in a lifetime experiences there--though I've been there for a whole year and most interns are only there for 3-4 months, so I've done a lot of stuff most people don't usually get to do... But a lot of it is luck--we had a crazy busy/intense spring and summer last year, but an extremely slow fall (much to the complaint of the fall interns...)

A realize this was a very long reply (I'm a notorious rambler...), but hopefully some info was helpful!
 
I just wanted to second everybody who recommends looking at a zoo close by....I did an internship at the National Zoo's birdhouse and besides being tons of fun, having this experience resulted in a great recommendation letter and was what got me my first job as a vet assistant. Its a really great way to get your foot inside the door and have some fun, and you never know where it might end...I ended up being able to help design an exhibit for another department at the Zoo because one of the curators heard of my speciality, and stuff like that (besides being great fun) is wonderful on applications.
 
Not at all! I need all the advice I can gather! I'm from Gurnee. Northern suburbs of Chicago. Hmm you were very close! Peggy Notebaert Nature Museum. I shall look into it. While I find all animals interesting, I would prefer working with small animals or exotic as opposed to large animals.

Good to know! I shall try to apply to many places. As cowgirla mentioned earlier, is it recommended to go in person with a resume? I have also never had a job before, so I guess I have to brush up on my resume skills. I just fear being a pain. I don't want to walk in a crowded clinic asking for a job in place of a customer. There are a lot of forest preserves around here so you bring up a good point about working with wildlife. That sounds enjoyable if I can find someone who can take me! 🙂

Cool, here are some ideas around you:

http://www.flintcreekwildlife.org/
Humane society- ask to shadow vets
Any of your friends with horses probably have a vet they go to- ask to hang out during their appointments and introduce yourself/ask to shadow
...sorry I've got to run to tango, but....

Also, I totally agree, if you can get out the the national zoo, you should! I got to necropsy an oryx there, one of the most exciting things ever! Although I was actually interning at the Natural History Museum skinning birds and making skeleton specimens, you never know where some of these opportunities may lead you!

Going in person with resume is always a good idea. You also may have better luck asking to shadow instead of volunteer. If you're a great and attentive "shadow" you never know, you may be able to land a job.
 
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