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Yea, if someone is kind enough to explain poaching? Pleaaase
and..
1) Do schools see your current accepted list and waitlist list BEFORE they make the decision to give you an acceptance? Does that information get factored?
2) If so, that begs the question, if you're accepted at a higher ranked school, will they be adverse to giving you an acceptance thinking you're going to keep with the current acceptance?
and..
1) Do schools see your current accepted list and waitlist list BEFORE they make the decision to give you an acceptance? Does that information get factored?
2) If so, that begs the question, if you're accepted at a higher ranked school, will they be adverse to giving you an acceptance thinking you're going to keep with the current acceptance?
Poaching is basically a more 'desirable' school accepting students who are currently planning to attend another school. Think of it like poaching animals (hunting animals protected or claimed by someone else), only instead of getting shot, the students ditch School A to attend School B.
1. They see your current acceptances, not waitlists. They can see that for all students they're considering at this point.
2. They may be. This is one of the few situations where a letter of interest actually provides additional info for the school.
So what if someone doesn't have no acceptances. does the school also "poach" them?
Think of poaching like stealing. You can't steal something that no one possesses.
Oh okay, but does that mean schools prefer to poach rather than accept students that dont have acceptances... I know I am being overly nervous but it is such a vital time.
And... one last follow-up question about poaching from me...
Is poaching a negotiation between the deans(?) of the schools? Or does Dean X just emails/calls Dean Y and tell him/her that School X will offer the applicant of School Y an acceptance?
Is poaching a negotiation between the deans(?) of the schools? Or does Dean X just emails/calls Dean Y and tell him/her that School X will offer the applicant of School Y an acceptance?
I would figure it's more that students who are better candidates are more likely to have gotten at least 1 other acceptance, so they'll be the first ones pulled off waitlists.
No, it's just them offering acceptance to the student (and I believe, yes, there is an AAMC recommendation about informing the first school).
Paraphrasing posts from adcoms and the AAMC Traffic Guidelines.
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Then there's this, which I'll post in lieu of tracking down the official Traffic Rules again.
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Out of curiosity, is there any AAMC data that details the net empty seats on traffic day?
Total MD seats - individuals with at least one acceptance?
similarly, Number of seats eventually filled by applicants with no acceptances on April 30?
trying to buoy a good friend, with thoughts that many seats still open🙂
would love to see a daily chart of counts of offers to applicants without any offers, every day post traffic
Total MD seats - individuals with at least one acceptance?
similarly, Number of seats eventually filled by applicants with no acceptances on April 30?
trying to buoy a good friend, with thoughts that many seats still open🙂
would love to see a daily chart of counts of offers to applicants without any offers, every day post traffic
super bummed out. found out I'm not in the high alternate list for the only 2 schools I'm waitlisted at. pretty much means a no at this point. I literally can't focus on anything besides how much I've failed during this application cycle. really tough to accept all of the hard work that I've put in throughout my life isn't appreciated.
It's never over till it's over! And you haven't failed! Making the decision to even apply to medical school is a huge accomplishment in itself, and you have a lot to be proud of 🙂
Dude, I feel the same way. But I've finally reached the point where I'm not gonna let that get to me anymore. I'm a badass human being, and if the schools couldn't realize that this year then I will damn sure make them realize it next year. You got this, friend. A no one year isn't a no for all eternity.
@le_bartender Well said! and seconded! Unfortunately it's becoming more and more the norm not to get in the first time around. There are forces beyond our control, which of course no one wants to hear. But every year for as many that get accepted there are just as many EQUALLY qualified who don't. You just do everything you can and then roll the dice. Get a backup plan in place, call your schools to find out what they would like to see improved and DON'T.GIVE.UP.
one through sdn, and the other school emailed.
it's really tough to put it past and move on, since the whole process was literally 5% of my life so far. also, I took on debt for the whole process so I get reminded of it every time I look at my finances.
I know it's hard. Especially when it comes to money. Idk. All I can really say if eff the patriarchy!
Believe me, I get it. I didn't say the situation wasn't messed up. I had to move into my parents' garage after living on my own for years. I felt like I sacrificed more than they (the adcoms) could ever understand. But dang it! I'm turning that frustration and despair into determination. Eff 'em is right!
Believe it or not, it's about what the schools want, not the applicants.
So... what's the deal? Was yesterday Traffic Day or is today? I'm confused... Orrrr did medical schools also get confused and some decided to release yesterday and some are aiming for today?
Today saw more than a little movement at Hofstra. I also saw NY Med, GT and at least a few others I will report tomorrow.
That's one of the two I forgot!There's also been movement at Case. 😱
If you could also check how much movement has been occurring at the University of Florida, I would really appreciate it @gyngyn! I know there were some offers made but I have no idea how much.
Geisel movement
We don't have a whole lot of overlap with U of FL, but if I see something I'll post.
That's interesting because on SDN I only saw two people get pulled off the wait list yesterday and none today. Was it enough movement that you think they might be done for now? Should I not expect to hear from them anytime soon (or at all)?
It's hard to say, but one thing is for certain: once movement starts, it will continue.
@gyngyn so you can only see movement at schools that have overlap with yours? i'm guessing you probably won't see much movement at cooper (in NJ) then, if at all?
Thank you so much! 🙂 Maybe @LizzyM or @Goro have seen something on their end if there has been any overlap for them? Not sure if you are all from the same institution.
@Goro is at a DO school and they don't even communicate with each other!
They actually accept a fair number of CA applicants, so there is some overlap.
oh okay, didn't know that! if you happen to see some movement there, would you mind letting me know? thank you!!!
Are you looking at the SDN forums to gauge WL movement? Or do ADCOMs have some special way to tell?
I'm feeling a bit down, I saw people at 3 of the 4 schools I'm WLed at get pulled off the list. 🙁 I guess that means I am toast?
We see daily updates of where our accepted (and waitlisted) students are accepted.
You are not toast 'til it's over.
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Any signs of movement for Tulane or VCU?
Oh okay. I don't understand this whole poaching thing. Can't you guys spread the wealth haha?
There are many students holding an acceptance at a school from which they can be easily be "poached" by another school they would prefer to attend.
Have you seen any movement at UASOM?
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We have very little overlap with Alabama.
Duke?
Not that I can see.
A boatload of overlap, no WL acceptances, yet. A surprising number of withdrawals, though.
I'll take that as good news!
