Walked out of interview

[kimmcauliffe]

---

Members do not see this ad.

You turds are still talking about this?

 

[spaceman_spiff]

um is kim mcauliffe your real name? and is that your actual picture?

 

[kimmcauliffe]

um is kim mcauliffe your real name? and is that your actual picture?

Most definitely not.

 

[spaceman_spiff]

oh, good, because i wouldn't want any med school administrators thinking less of me if I were to call someone "turds" on a premed forum...

 

[kimmcauliffe]

Oh I have no fear of that whatsoever, especially since there has been worse said in this thread (read from beginning to end, my friend). I'm not afraid to speak my mind on a forum that blatanly tells the OP that any medical student should bend over and let someone kick her ass, those that hold PhDs mean pretty don't have a toehold's grip on this earth, and berate the OP for the past week.

Any other comments, I'll be glad to answer!

 

[kimmcauliffe]

And by the way, I think I may have missed the memo that said we need to justify our sense of humor to you. My mistake... 😕

 

[spaceman_spiff]

hey hey i didn't mean to offend you, i just wanted to make sure you realized that this forum is intended to be anonymous for reasons like what I stated. I didn't realize it myself until after i had been posting, which is why this is my 2nd username at SDN. 😳

 

[kimmcauliffe]

hey hey i didn't mean to offend you, i just wanted to make sure you realized that this forum is intended to be anonymous for reasons like what I stated. I didn't realize it myself until after i had been posting, which is why this is my 2nd username at SDN. 😳

Noted... thanks, Spaceman Spiff.

 

[UCLA2000]

😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡
I went to interview at Loma Linda this morning. First interview went great! The second interviewer didn't show up. She didn't even call. I ran around looking for the interview coordinator. I was asked to meet with the interviewer later... she was at a meeting that ran late and she forgot she had to interview. Went to meet with her again... waited for 15 minutes... decided to leave.

I took a day off of work, lost about $300 off of my paycheck.... ahhhhhhhh what lack of professionalism and consideration!!!!!!!!!!!! 😡 😡 😡

You shot yourself in the foot by leaving. As an interviewee you must realize that people have commitments which they cannot get out of. As a physician you must realize that things come up and you can't always be where you're supposed to be at exactly the right time. **** happens. Patients get sick, things come up.

It was extremely unprofessional, insensitive, immature, and self destructive for you to walk out of that interview. You did a diservice to yourself by leaving.

 

[UCLA2000]

Oh I have no fear of that whatsoever, especially since there has been worse said in this thread (read from beginning to end, my friend). I'm not afraid to speak my mind on a forum that blatanly tells the OP that any medical student should bend over and let someone kick her ass, those that hold PhDs mean pretty don't have a toehold's grip on this earth, and berate the OP for the past week.

Any other comments, I'll be glad to answer!

Just so that you're aware, adcom members and student interviewers do read these forums.

The anonymity is in place to protect you as well as everybody else. Things that you write may be misconstrued or taken out of context and you run the risk of doing yourself a disservice by using your real name and having your picture up.

 

[Gut Shot]

You shot yourself in the foot by leaving. As an interviewee you must realize that people have commitments which they cannot get out of. As a physician you must realize that things come up and you can't always be where you're supposed to be at exactly the right time. **** happens. Patients get sick, things come up.

The interviewer was a PhD.

It was extremely unprofessional, insensitive, immature, and self destructive for you to walk out of that interview. You did a diservice to yourself by leaving.

No, she really didn't. Is it just me or is this entire thread barely concealing a smoldering bolus of jealousy?

 

[UCLA2000]

The interviewer was a PhD.



No, she really didn't. Is it just me or is this entire thread barely concealing a smoldering bolus of jealousy?

1. My point still stands. Professionals are very busy people. They have meetings to go to etc. They do not get paid to be a part of the adcom.
When I said the statement regarding "as a physician" I was actually referring to the OP as a future physician who must realize those things. They can't expect to have everything they want NOW NOW NOW. Can you imagine the reception that a med student would get in the clinics if they kept pestering their team because their orders weren't cosigned fast enough etc.

2. Despite what you may think I'm really not jealous of the OP. I'm a 4th year at a top 5 med school. I have nothing to be jealous of.

 

[nicholasblonde]

hey hey i didn't mean to offend you, i just wanted to make sure you realized that this forum is intended to be anonymous for reasons like what I stated. I didn't realize it myself until after i had been posting, which is why this is my 2nd username at SDN. 😳

Elaborating on the Anonymity issue...don't you think people who have an "MDApplicants.com" username are compromising their identity? If a med school really wanted to, all they would have to do is look at your extracurriculars, MCAT, and GPA (listed on mdapplicants.com) and then look for you in their stack/database of applications....they'll know exactly who you are in 30 minutes flat. No MDApplicants.com for me!!! or at least I'm not posting any info on it! 😎

 

[kimmcauliffe]

Just so that you're aware, adcom members and student interviewers do read these forums.

The anonymity is in place to protect you as well as everybody else. Things that you write may be misconstrued or taken out of context and you run the risk of doing yourself a disservice by using your real name and having your picture up.

I appreciate the concern, but I am an adult and stand by what I say. I suppose my biggest 'mistake' is that no one knows me here personally, so my sense of humor is way out in left field for those who have lost their own.

Since interviewers read these forums, there are many other people on here who should be paying more attention to your advice than me! But where free speech is a right, so is opinion. I just hope that most people here are good sports.

 

[spaceman_spiff]

Elaborating on the Anonymity issue...don't you think people who have an "MDApplicants.com" username are compromising their identity? If a med school really wanted to, all they would have to do is look at your extracurriculars, MCAT, and GPA (listed on mdapplicants.com) and then look for you in their stack/database of applications....they'll know exactly who you are in 30 minutes flat. No MDApplicants.com for me!!! or at least I'm not posting any info on it! 😎

you're exactly right... which is why i try to watch what i say even as spaceman_spiff. But being a premed forum I don't think SDN is going to even allow us to say things that might change an adcom's decision (short of saying "University of ____ SOM bites").

but really ... if an adcom has 30 minutes to spend doing that kind of thing, i'd be happy that my application is getting that much attention! 🙂

 

[45408]

Yeah, such rage. I can feel it seething inside her veins every time I read her account of the incident:

 

[nekrogg]

let-this-thread-die

 

[UCLA2000]

But where free speech is a right, so is opinion.

Opinions are like rectums...everybody has one...

I just hope they don't get confused and share the wrong one! 👍 👍 👍

Actually, after some additional thought, I must retract my previous statement. It is physiologically possible to be imperforate. But I would think that even those people have an opinion though...

 

[UCLA2000]

let-this-thread-die

We're doctors. We....must......keep.....it.......alive!

charging: 300

CLEAR!

 

[Beau Geste]

You shot yourself in the foot by leaving. As an interviewee you must realize that people have commitments which they cannot get out of. As a physician you must realize that things come up and you can't always be where you're supposed to be at exactly the right time. **** happens. Patients get sick, things come up.

It was extremely unprofessional, insensitive, immature, and self destructive for you to walk out of that interview. You did a diservice to yourself by leaving.

At the same time it is unprofessional, insensitive, immature, etc. to leave an interviewee hanging. Especially when this interviewer forgot the first time then didn't show up the second time. I odn't know that I would have left, but I would have said something.

Besides, it doesn't really matter if the OP got in somewhere else. I wouldn't want to go to that school after an experience like that, either.

It's not like they walked out in the middle of the interview! Sheesh!

 

[ND2005]

Elaborating on the Anonymity issue...don't you think people who have an "MDApplicants.com" username are compromising their identity? If a med school really wanted to, all they would have to do is look at your extracurriculars, MCAT, and GPA (listed on mdapplicants.com) and then look for you in their stack/database of applications....they'll know exactly who you are in 30 minutes flat. No MDApplicants.com for me!!! or at least I'm not posting any info on it! 😎

I've kind of thought about that. I feel like I'm readily identifiable by my profile.

I think I mostly just try not to say anything embarassing on here, both for my own sake (cuz who likes being embarassed, really?) and in case anyone from a school can recognize me.

I think the MDapps links are really helpful despite the potential for removing anonymity. They're especially good on threads talking about acceptances/interviews/etc, b/c then you can really understand the perspective of each poster.

 

[Gut Shot]

1. My point still stands. Professionals are very busy people. They have meetings to go to etc. They do not get paid to be a part of the adcom.

You're right, they do have meeting to go to etc. Meetings like.... oh, ones with medical school interviees. The school of medicine is going to make an enormous, permanent investment of money and faith in the people it selects. Like everything in life, things get screwed up sometimes, but between jobs, graduate school, medical school and residency I've done a lot of interviews over the past 11 years. I was stood up once in all that time, so I know it's possible for people to be where they say they will be, especially if given two chances.

When I said the statement regarding "as a physician" I was actually referring to the OP as a future physician who must realize those things. They can't expect to have everything they want NOW NOW NOW. Can you imagine the reception that a med student would get in the clinics if they kept pestering their team because their orders weren't cosigned fast enough etc.

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why some people on this thread wish to extrapolate the OP's actions here into a global assessment of her character. She felt jerked around after being stood up twice, she had better things going, she left. Trust me, Loma Linda will find some way to get over it. Would it have been more mature, considerate and professional to have spoken with the adcom again before leaving? Sure, it would have. But she held up her end of the bargain by showing up that day, ready to go. If anyone was being truly unprofessional, and therefore not deserving of mutual respect, it was the interviewer. Maybe it's because I've been sucking the hind teat for so long, but lately I've just gotten really tired of taking crap from people who can't find their asses with both hands.

2. Despite what you may think I'm really not jealous of the OP. I'm a 4th year at a top 5 med school. I have nothing to be jealous of.

Congrats, but I wasn't talking about you, per se.

 

[Beau Geste]

This is getting really ridiculous. Havarti hits the nail on the head. Please let it rest. NO, the OP will not be a bad doctor because they left. NO, the OP was not a diva because she got frustrated after a 2nd attempt. NO, the OP wasn't being rude to other potential interviewees that could have had her spot (maybe they would have done the same thing!).

After reading the earlier posts and thinking a little more, it's not a far stretch to think I would have done the same thing. Why should a student have to be stood up twice? This thread has twisted the OP's vent into something totally absurd. There were no alterior motives behind leaving after 2 failed interviews.
Sometimes that's just the way the cookie crumbles!

I'm sure it's a small number of you who NEVER stood anyone up or was late and made the other person feel small. If any of you applied to Loma, then you should thank her by opening up a slot.

Seriously, you guys, give it a rest. This forum is all about overanalyziation!

 

[Gut Shot]

This forum is all about overanalyziation!

We put the "anal" in overanalyze.

 

[Beau Geste]

We put the "anal" in overanalyze.

I swear, it's so frustrating!

Sometimes I stay away from the forum, but I get e-mails sometimes from threads I've glanced at. Then I'm sucked in.

 

[raph91]

Hey everybody,

Was just reading this. I'm a 4th year med student and wanted to put in my 2 cents.

The fact is that often MD applicants are coming from places across the country. Usually, the programs take note of this and will try and make sure things get done on time or make adjustments in favor of the applicant to make sure everybody can get home when they need to.

Maybe yes the interviewer may have had important things to do, I don't doubt that. But it reflects badly on the program that they told the interviewee that the interviewer was back in the office already and it still wasn't the case.

I'd agree that a mature course of action would be to go to the coordinator again and say "I really need to go ... I've been here for an extra 45 minutes ... You told me she was in her office but I waited again for 15 minutes and she never showed ... I'm not really sure what to do ... " whatever.

However, I also think it is a bit much to expect somebody to just sit there for unheard of amounts of time. The truth is it is fully expected by many attendings that both medical students and residents be ABSOLUTELY PROMPT unless there is some patient emergency. 5-10 minuters might be understandable. Coming an hour late, you better have a DAMN good excuse (i.e., my cell phone had no batteries, my car broke down, and I was stuck in the middle of a highway and had to hitchhike). From the original post, it seems that the individual was in a "meeting." That would never fly with many attendings the other way around (i.e., a medical student saying they were in a meeting). They would say you should have contacted somebody before hand, etc.

I think it is unprofessional to *just* walk out, but I don't feel it is unprofessional to decide to leave. Just tell the coordinator first.

I ALSO think it is unprofessional to not make note of or to miss an appointment, no matter who with, just because you forgot and scheduled another meeting. It's different if there is a patient emergency or some urgent matter to take care of. However, in "organized" circumstances like meetings, it is the responsibility of the interviewer to realize his/her commitments and to inform the office and then for the office to properly inform the candidate. If you are not capable of remembering a commitment, you shouldn't make them.

 

[Iluvmatt]

see above story.

i was actually reinvited back to columbia for another interview. i think my interviewer realized he was at fault and demanded a second interview.

i went back to columbia for a 2nd time. this time, i actually met the associate dean, who then apologized to me! after my interview, i was told to expect good news.

moral of the story: stand up for yourself always, regardless of your candidacy. your decision to pick that school is as equally important as their decision to pick you.

awesome! Did they pay for the 2nd columbia trip? Just curious. They should!

 

[Iluvmatt]

You turds are still talking about this?

You're weird. You're a turd for looking at a post that do not interest you.

 

[jbone]

Is this thread still alive? damn. 👎

 

[kimmcauliffe]

You're weird. You're a turd for looking at a post that do not interest you.

Yeah... you got me.

 

[UCLA2000]

For the life of me, I cannot fathom why some people on this thread wish to extrapolate the OP's actions here into a global assessment of her character...

The way somebody acts is a direct reflection of their character.

 

[SirTony76]

The way somebody acts is a direct reflection of their character.

hmm...now that you mention it, more than just the OP reflected her character in this thread...

 

[Beau Geste]

The way somebody acts is a direct reflection of their character.

Yeah. She doesn't like being stood up twice. What a character flaw. Give it a rest.

 

[kimmcauliffe]

Yeah. She doesn't like being stood up twice. What a character flaw. Give it a rest.

Megboo, you are my new hero. You said what should have been done a week ago, and I said it too, but I used the word 'turd' and now I am being attacked by anonymous users. 🙄

 

[spoon]

You turds are still talking about this?

 

[kimmcauliffe]

You turds are still talking about this?

SPOOOOOON!!! Don't say it! You will be banned forever from SDN by the thought police!!!

 

[jbone]

SPOOOOOON!!! Don't say it! You will be banned forever from SDN by the thought police!!!

Kim, Your too hot to worry about such "crap". 😉 😛

 

[kimmcauliffe]

Kim, Your too hot to worry about such "crap". 😉 😛

Jbone, now YOU are my new hero.

 

[jbone]

Jbone, now YOU are my new hero.

oh, behave. 😉 You are hot though. Just an observation. 😉

 

[MarzMD]

oh, behave. 😉 You are hot though. Just an observation. 😉

And funny also. Her blog site had me dying. If only more premeds were down to earth.

 

[Beau Geste]

Megboo, you are my new hero. You said what should have been done a week ago, and I said it too, but I used the word 'turd' and now I am being attacked by anonymous users. 🙄

Thanks, Kim. Your picture does look pretty, but I thought you said that wasn't you? (either way it's cool). And your blog is pretty funny!

 

[kimmcauliffe]

Thanks, Kim. Your picture does look pretty, but I thought you said that wasn't you? (either way it's cool). And your blog is pretty funny!

Oh no, that's me. I was being a wisea$$. Thanks for the compliments!

 

[kimmcauliffe]

And funny also. Her blog site had me dying. If only more premeds were down to earth.

I wish they were too, maybe I'd have more sane people to associate with. I was stationed in Washington DC when September 11 happened... I don't stress about an A-.

On the flip side, there's more people to poke fun at.

 

[Gut Shot]

The way somebody acts is a direct reflection of their character.

Then my assessment of your character is that you have a tendency to rush to judgement. Might want to watch out for that as a physician. It can really burn you sometimes.

 

[abceasyas123]

SPOOOOOON!!! Don't say it! You will be banned forever from SDN by the thought police!!!

No, it's funny when spoon says it.

 

[kimmcauliffe]

No, it's funny when spoon says it.

oooooh... got me again...