• Funniest Story on the Job Contest Starts Now!

    Contest starts now and ends September 27th. Winner will receive a special user banner and $10 Amazon Gift card!

    JOIN NOW
  • Site Updates Coming Next Week

    Site updates are coming next week on Monday and Friday. Click the button below to learn more!

    LEARN MORE

WAMC for my top NP Psych schools? Any help appreciated!

krabbypattychef

Full Member
May 16, 2019
19
13
36
  1. Pre-Medical
Hi guys,

I’m curious to understand my chances of getting into top PMHNP programs (Vanderbilt, UCSF, UPenn) with somewhat limited clinical experience.

  • 3.7 Cumulative, 3.9 Nursing from state school.
  • 6 months step-down unit (level 1 trauma center)
  • 2 months inpatient detox/psych at application (should have 6+ months by program start)
  • Good personal statement with solid letters of rec.

Im currently working on finding shadowing experience as well.

Wondering how I should approach my applications. Maybe I should just apply to PA school or online programs. I’ve heard the program itself might not matter much for psych. Thanks!
 

pamac

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Mar 31, 2010
1,579
570
266
  1. Other Health Professions Student
If you want to work in psyche, PMHNP will put you in a far better position professionally than being a PA will. I could go on and on how I’m glad I chose PMHNP vs PA, and particularly because I’m working in an independent practice state. I pull in about $100,000 more per year vs what I could as a PA working in psyche. My professional mobility is significant as well. My negotiating power is far better than any PA I know, even those with more experience. I would never suggest to someone, especially an RN, that they should opt for PA vs NP, especially in psyche. PAs are trained well, but on a purely financial and professional basis, for a nurse it just doesn’t make much sense.

As far as how you choose to train to be an NP, being a “top” school is a bit of a misnomer. Finding the right school (one that isn’t a purely online for profit program) is better than finding the most expensive program attached to a big name. I went to a hybrid online program with in-person components, and thought that was a good balance. Find out why those “top” programs say they are “top” programs. You don’t have to spend a lot to go to a good NP school.

You really should get experience as a psyche nurse. There is a difference between those that have it and those that don’t, and it shows. Nurses outside of psyche think that they see enough patients with psyche issues that it gives them enough to go on, but compare that to the nurse who spends 12.5 hours at a time dealing with the same patient, day after day. As a psyche nurse, you have such a wealth of exposure to how psyche meds work, how patients handle things, how you respond to patient interactions.... the list goes on. You get a feel for who is BSing you, who is BSing themselves, who is legit. You make mistakes and discover your mistakes, you learn about your biases. You see people get better and realize that you misjudged them. You see people get worse and realize that too. That kind of experience is what made me valuable and marketable as a new grad vs other PMHNPs, particularly those with less RN psyche experience than me. I’ve been tested, and I can go on and on to an employer about past experiences that have forged me.

So that’s the advice that I’d give someone I care about. It might not be universally applicable to everyone. Maybe there’s a hot shot cardiac nurse that would fit seamlessly into psyche without prior experience. But I don’t give advice that focuses on outliers. You have 2-4 years before you hit the ground as a new grad psyche NP, you might as well be doing what you can to immerse yourself in a field that really needs you to be trying your best to understand it.
 
About the Ads
This thread is more than 1 year old.

Your message may be considered spam for the following reasons:

  1. Your new thread title is very short, and likely is unhelpful.
  2. Your reply is very short and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  3. Your reply is very long and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  4. It is very likely that it does not need any further discussion and thus bumping it serves no purpose.
  5. Your message is mostly quotes or spoilers.
  6. Your reply has occurred very quickly after a previous reply and likely does not add anything to the thread.
  7. This thread is locked.