Western U???

[Jnino]

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Western University? Do they have good clinical rotations? Is it overall a good DO school? Thanks!

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[subtle1epiphany]

Wow, this question comes up alot!
Hmmm...a good place to start is a thread I participated in a while ago (last application cycle), search for threads where I have spoken and for Western.
I got in off their waitlist, or alternate list, something like that. It was pretty late in the cycle, perhaps in late March or April as they invited me to their summer sessions in anatomy, which began in June or so. It is not a bad school. I felt that their rotation sites could be stronger, although it is difficult in California with the UC medical schools and USC/Stanford/Loma Linda all around. Their Long Beach affiliation isn't a great hospital, although the opportunity to rotate through St. Mary's or Memorial (esp LB Memorial) is a great opportunity. Arrowhead is their strongest affiliation it seems and it's a good hospital with great programs, including one of only two (so far as I know) AOA-accredited Neurosurg programs in the US. Many of their grads take positions at USC-County and Memorial, among other respected programs. They have good placement, but I'll have to say that their location leaves much to be desired (from my standpoint and I grew up in SoCal) and to get the best education you'll have to work to get good rotations. Take all advice, including this, with a healthy quantity of salt. Hope this helps.

 

[Jnino]

Wow, this question comes up alot!
Hmmm...a good place to start is a thread I participated in a while ago (last application cycle), search for threads where I have spoken and for Western.
I got in off their waitlist, or alternate list, something like that. It was pretty late in the cycle, perhaps in late March or April as they invited me to their summer sessions in anatomy, which began in June or so. It is not a bad school. I felt that their rotation sites could be stronger, although it is difficult in California with the UC medical schools and USC/Stanford/Loma Linda all around. Their Long Beach affiliation isn't a great hospital, although the opportunity to rotate through St. Mary's or Memorial (esp LB Memorial) is a great opportunity. Arrowhead is their strongest affiliation it seems and it's a good hospital with great programs, including one of only two (so far as I know) AOA-accredited Neurosurg programs in the US. Many of their grads take positions at USC-County and Memorial, among other respected programs. They have good placement, but I'll have to say that their location leaves much to be desired (from my standpoint and I grew up in SoCal) and to get the best education you'll have to work to get good rotations. Take all advice, including this, with a healthy quantity of salt. Hope this helps.

Thank you so much for the info, I received an interview without having sent my secondaries yet. I have heard of some of the less desirable schools doing this to boost their class scores and was wondering if this was one of them? I am definitely weighing the interview and my own impression of it highly. It doesnt seen like you went there, where did you go, what other schools did you like/ not like. Thanks for the info again! Nino

 

[me454555]

As a 3rd year @ COMP I can tell that this school is definatly NOT desperate for applicants. We're in SoCal and there are plenty of people who want to go to COMP simply for that reason. The education is fine and the rotations are good. I really don't feel like typeing out a long generic response so PM me w/specific questions you might have about the school.

 

[Jinyaoysiu]

Thank you so much for the info, I received an interview without having sent my secondaries yet. I have heard of some of the less desirable schools doing this to boost their class scores and was wondering if this was one of them? I am definitely weighing the interview and my own impression of it highly. It doesnt seen like you went there, where did you go, what other schools did you like/ not like. Thanks for the info again! Nino

Yeah I don't think Western U is dying to raise its class scores.
http://www.kcom.edu/faculty/chamberlain/ranmcat.htm

Maybe it's just you that they are dying to have 🙂 I think they get a lot of applications and our 200+ class size is fairly large, so they just need to get the ball rolling.

Good luck and I do believe Western will be worth your time. Put in some hard working years and you will be happy where you end up after med school.

 

[subtle1epiphany]

Thank you so much for the info, I received an interview without having sent my secondaries yet. I have heard of some of the less desirable schools doing this to boost their class scores and was wondering if this was one of them? I am definitely weighing the interview and my own impression of it highly. It doesnt seen like you went there, where did you go, what other schools did you like/ not like. Thanks for the info again! Nino

They send out interview invites post-primary/AACOMAS to applicants who are at the top of their list. They did this last year, I received the immediate invite and interviewed with the Director in September. I also interviewed at SUNY Upstate (loved it), MSU COM (loved it), PCOM (didnt like it), and UMDNJSOM (loved it). I turned down interviews at CCOM and KCOM.

As for where I went...well...keep reading 😎

 

[markboonya]

Thank you so much for the info, I received an interview without having sent my secondaries yet. I have heard of some of the less desirable schools doing this to boost their class scores and was wondering if this was one of them? I am definitely weighing the interview and my own impression of it highly. It doesnt seen like you went there, where did you go, what other schools did you like/ not like. Thanks for the info again! Nino

what are ur stats jnino? if u dont mind sharing...thanks in advance

 

[cosmicstarr]

Does Western really require a minimum 3.4 science GPA? I was reading through the Osteopathic school profiles and it seemed to appear that this was a requirement.

 

[medhacker]

They send out interview invites post-primary/AACOMAS to applicants who are at the top of their list. They did this last year, I received the immediate invite and interviewed with the Director in September. I also interviewed at SUNY Upstate (loved it), MSU COM (loved it), PCOM (didnt like it), and UMDNJSOM (loved it). I turned down interviews at CCOM and KCOM.

As for where I went...well...keep reading 😎

Hi

What did you not like about PCOM?
thanks in advance

 

[njaqua]

They send out interview invites post-primary/AACOMAS to applicants who are at the top of their list. They did this last year, I received the immediate invite and interviewed with the Director in September. I also interviewed at SUNY Upstate (loved it), MSU COM (loved it), PCOM (didnt like it), and UMDNJSOM (loved it). I turned down interviews at CCOM and KCOM.

As for where I went...well...keep reading 😎

So you had a "priority" interview but were waitlisted? Just curious, because I have received the same pre-secondary interview offer for this year and I assumed that most that get these get an acceptance immediately.

 

[gogo82865]

So you had a "priority" interview but were waitlisted? Just curious, because I have received the same pre-secondary interview offer for this year and I assumed that most that get these get an acceptance immediately.

that's an interesting assumption. if it's true then it lends to western being numbers ******.

on the other hand though, they ask a lot of info in their secondary which raises many opportunities for red flags to be raised. plus the interview, where someone might pick their nose or show up in a hot pink suit

 

[markt]

Western University College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific (WesternU/COMP) had an information session today. It was really quite informative, and I really loved it. It seemed like there were over a hundred in attendance for the daylong event that included a lunch and a tour of the campus given by current students.

The day started out with a quick video introduction to Western U and some of its programs. It started on the set of ER with Noah Wyle and a COMP graduate that served as one of four medical advisors on the show. One thing I liked was a shot of Alex Kingsley lying on her stomach, groaning with pleasure on a table while getting an osteopathic treatment. She said something to the effect that she loves osteopathic medicine.

After the video, Dr. Hruby, the chair of the OMM department, gave a brief history and explanation of osteopathic medicine and then gave a quick demo of some of the techniques. He seemed like a very good teacher, and I look forward to his classes when/if I go there.

After this, we heard from the new dean, Dr. Clinton E. Adams. He's a retired admiral who says he left the military because he really believes in the future of COMP. I really liked him. I think that if I go there, a lot of the reason will be because of him.

After this, we learned about a new curriculum that is currently being instituted. Dr. Kay Kalousec, another COMP grad, gave us a presentation on the changes to be made. From what I understood, one of the biggest changes involved separating anatomy into the first semester so that students can really concentrate and learn it. Another change was taking a large number of core sciences such as molecular bio, biochem, cell bio, genetics, etc, and putting them all into one course. As far as rotations go, the change to be made is the addition of "didactic weeks." Apparently after you do three rotations, you come back to campus for lecture, omm, clinical evaluation and shelf exams on the rotations you have finished. I forgot to ask how the shelf exams will be used in evaluating students.

For lunch we all broke up into small groups, each one assigned to a current first or second year medical student. The lunch itself wasn't much to speak of, but the conversations were quite enlightening. We learned a lot about the large number of clubs on campus, and we were able to ask questions about campus life.

When we finished eating, our student took us for a tour of the campus. It was a hot day, so we tried to stay in the air conditioned buildings as much as possible, which wasn't too difficult because the campus is rather small. Apparently the school began by purchasing a couple of buildings in an abandoned shopping mall. As the school has grown, it purchased more and more of the surrounding buildings. Because of this there are businesses that are not related to the school within the campus proper such as a credit union and - get this - a bar. Fortunately the bar is only open at night, so that influence hopefully is not too strong while students are present. Another interesting thing about the tour was Antique Alley, right next to campus. Apparently the movie "Cat in the Hat" was filmed there and many of the buildings were painted these wild colors for the movie. I was told that the owners were reimbursed for the paint so that they could have painted the buildings back the way they were, but they decided to leave them. I actually kind of like it. A couple of things I don't like about the campus are that they don't have a cafeteria or a gym.

When we got back from lunch there were four students who shared their experiences and took questions. There was one fourth year and three second year students on the panel. The fourth year was a really nice guy and really generous with his time. He attended one of these sessions and felt that this was the school for him, much like what I felt today. The first second year student was kind of a sarcastic student who really entertained us. The next one was a young lady from Colorado who was actually in the military prior to coming to COMP. She only applied to COMP and was accepted; I thought this was amazing. The third second year student as I recall was the only one accepted to both allopathic and osteopathic schools and yet, in his words, chose to go where his heart was. I liked that.

One highlight of this student panel was that three of the four of them shared their MCAT scores. As I recall, all of the ones who shared their scores had approximately 25 or so. One of them didn't want to share his score, which I respect. It seems like it can be a personal thing. Another highlight during the panel was hearing from a COMP graduate who is now in Michigan, as I recalll, working with the residency programs or something. The thing I really liked was that now that his children are old enough to go to medical school, he brought them here to COMP to see if they wanted to here first, even before MSUCOM.

One other thing I thought deserving mention, was that in reading posts on SDN, I was concerned about COMP because I heard there have been problems with a lack of support with third and fourth year rotations; however, the fourth year student said that that couldn't be further from the truth. They have extensive support for third and forth year students, and in his words, it took him five minutes to set up is third year rotations, and another five minutes to set up is fourth year rotations. He said he just went to the office where they set these up and asked her where the rotations were, and she showed him. He said he wanted this and that etc. and he was done. Also, he didn't have to move. He's apparently been staying in the same location in Pomona for the entire time he's been going to school at COMP. I think that would be important to me in choosing whether or not to apply to schools like Touro-NV or KCOM where I've been reading most students have to move for rotations.

After the student panel, we heard from Dr. Bartley Yee, the chair of the admissions committee (adcom). One interesting thing he said was that they get three waves of applications. The first is in June when they first start taking applications. The second wave is in August when the August MCAT takers apply. The third wave was what I found interesting; apparently there are those who had applied to allopathic schools and are finding that they are not getting much success, who want to apply to D.O. schools as a second resort. They start seeing that wave of applictions in January or February as I recall.

 

[markboonya]

Western University College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific (WesternU/COMP) had an information session today. It was really quite informative, and I really loved it. It seemed like there were over a hundred in attendance for the daylong event that included a lunch and a tour of the campus given by current students.

The day started out with a quick video introduction to Western U and some of its programs. It started on the set of ER with Noah Wyle and a COMP graduate that served as one of four medical advisors on the show. One thing I liked was a shot of Alex Kingsley lying on her stomach, groaning with pleasure on a table while getting an osteopathic treatment. She said something to the effect that she loves osteopathic medicine.

After the video, Dr. Hruby, the chair of the OMM department, gave a brief history and explanation of osteopathic medicine and then gave a quick demo of some of the techniques. He seemed like a very good teacher, and I look forward to his classes when/if I go there.

After this, we heard from the new dean, Dr. Clinton E. Adams. He's a retired admiral who says he left the military because he really believes in the future of COMP. I really liked him. I think that if I go there, a lot of the reason will be because of him.

After this, we learned about a new curriculum that is currently being instituted. Dr. Kay Kalousec, another COMP grad, gave us a presentation on the changes to be made. From what I understood, one of the biggest changes involved separating anatomy into the first semester so that students can really concentrate and learn it. Another change was taking a large number of core sciences such as molecular bio, biochem, cell bio, genetics, etc, and putting them all into one course. As far as rotations go, the change to be made is the addition of "didactic weeks." Apparently after you do three rotations, you come back to campus for lecture, omm, clinical evaluation and shelf exams on the rotations you have finished. I forgot to ask how the shelf exams will be used in evaluating students.

For lunch we all broke up into small groups, each one assigned to a current first or second year medical student. The lunch itself wasn't much to speak of, but the conversations were quite enlightening. We learned a lot about the large number of clubs on campus, and we were able to ask questions about campus life.

When we finished eating, our student took us for a tour of the campus. It was a hot day, so we tried to stay in the air conditioned buildings as much as possible, which wasn't too difficult because the campus is rather small. Apparently the school began by purchasing a couple of buildings in an abandoned shopping mall. As the school has grown, it purchased more and more of the surrounding buildings. Because of this there are businesses that are not related to the school within the campus proper such as a credit union and - get this - a bar. Fortunately the bar is only open at night, so that influence hopefully is not too strong while students are present. Another interesting thing about the tour was Antique Alley, right next to campus. Apparently the movie "Cat in the Hat" was filmed there and many of the buildings were painted these wild colors for the movie. I was told that the owners were reimbursed for the paint so that they could have painted the buildings back the way they were, but they decided to leave them. I actually kind of like it. A couple of things I don't like about the campus are that they don't have a cafeteria or a gym.

When we got back from lunch there were four students who shared their experiences and took questions. There was one fourth year and three second year students on the panel. The fourth year was a really nice guy and really generous with his time. He attended one of these sessions and felt that this was the school for him, much like what I felt today. The first second year student was kind of a sarcastic student who really entertained us. The next one was a young lady from Colorado who was actually in the military prior to coming to COMP. She only applied to COMP and was accepted; I thought this was amazing. The third second year student as I recall was the only one accepted to both allopathic and osteopathic schools and yet, in his words, chose to go where his heart was. I liked that.

One highlight of this student panel was that three of the four of them shared their MCAT scores. As I recall, all of the ones who shared their scores had approximately 25 or so. One of them didn't want to share his score, which I respect. It seems like it can be a personal thing. Another highlight during the panel was hearing from a COMP graduate who is now in Michigan, as I recalll, working with the residency programs or something. The thing I really liked was that now that his children are old enough to go to medical school, he brought them here to COMP to see if they wanted to here first, even before MSUCOM.

One other thing I thought deserving mention, was that in reading posts on SDN, I was concerned about COMP because I heard there have been problems with a lack of support with third and fourth year rotations; however, the fourth year student said that that couldn't be further from the truth. They have extensive support for third and forth year students, and in his words, it took him five minutes to set up is third year rotations, and another five minutes to set up is fourth year rotations. He said he just went to the office where they set these up and asked her where the rotations were, and she showed him. He said he wanted this and that etc. and he was done. Also, he didn't have to move. He's apparently been staying in the same location in Pomona for the entire time he's been going to school at COMP. I think that would be important to me in choosing whether or not to apply to schools like Touro-NV or KCOM where I've been reading most students have to move for rotations.

After the student panel, we heard from Dr. Bartley Yee, the chair of the admissions committee (adcom). One interesting thing he said was that they get three waves of applications. The first is in June when they first start taking applications. The second wave is in August when the August MCAT takers apply. The third wave was what I found interesting; apparently there are those who had applied to allopathic schools and are finding that they are not getting much success, who want to apply to D.O. schools as a second resort. They start seeing that wave of applictions in January or February as I recall.

hey thanks for the detailed insight. i am hoping to go to their next orientation thing in november. how diverse were the students there? and i heard the campus is quite ugly, but is under going a face lift. did u get to see any of the new renovations?

 

[markt]

hey thanks for the detailed insight. i am hoping to go to their next orientation thing in november. how diverse were the students there? and i heard the campus is quite ugly, but is under going a face lift. did u get to see any of the new renovations?

The general reaction seems to be that the campus on the outside is kinda dumpy - it is basically an abandoned strip mall that they renovated into a very modern medical school. On the inside, the classrooms, the anatomy lab and the omm lab are very clean and modern and spacious. I figure I'll be spending most of my time inside studying or in class if I go there, so the outside won't matter as much. Also their library is clean and is open late. Also there seem to be ethernet terminals everywhere - in the library, break room, at every desk in every classroom. I'm not sure what their plan is for wireless networks, but as long as I can plug in somewhere I think it'll be ok.

As to renovations and face lifts, I didn't hear about any of them. No one talked about them, nor were there any questions. I guess there doesn't seem to be much concern about it. I don't think it is a big deal personally. I would like to see a cafeteria and a gym added on however.

As to diversity, just going from what I was told, Western U/COMP is like most college campuses in Southern California. That is, it has a very large asian population, with other minority groups also well represented. The fourth year student on the panel said that as a white male, he felt like he was part of a minority. Also, perhaps unusual for a medical school, there seems to be a higher percentage of females than males in each class.

It seems from the very beginning of osteopathic medicine, women have played a major role. Women were a part of the first class that A.T. Still taught. Imagine a woman in a regular medical school way back then. This is yet another reason why I favor the osteopathic way.

 

[EastWestN2grt]

Western University College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific (WesternU/COMP) had an information session today. It was really quite informative, and I really loved it.

Because of this there are businesses that are not related to the school within the campus proper such as a credit union and - get this - a bar. Fortunately the bar is only open at night, .

I have to agree. I was at the conference as well, and they really impressed me, especially with the new curriculum change effected this year. They have jumped to the top of my school list.

BUT how can you NOT like the close proximity of the bar....WOOOHHHOOOO!!!Im sure after a long exam I will spending a few stafford dollars on more than a few pints....I just hope they have Guinness....

WESTERN(and bar on campus) HERE I COME!!!!!(I hope....) 😀

 

[EastWestN2grt]

hey thanks for the detailed insight. i am hoping to go to their next orientation thing in november. how diverse were the students there? and i heard the campus is quite ugly, but is under going a face lift. did u get to see any of the new renovations?

Dean Adams did make a passing comment about the possibility of moving to a NEW location. But that was all he said..The city of Pomona is really putting money into revitalizing its downtown, so there is a lot of potential.

 

[Laloz]

I have to agree. I was at the conference as well, and they really impressed me, especially with the new curriculum change effected this year. They have jumped to the top of my school list.

BUT how can you NOT like the close proximity of the bar....WOOOHHHOOOO!!!Im sure after a long exam I will spending a few stafford dollars on more than a few pints....I just hope they have Guinness....

WESTERN(and bar on campus) HERE I COME!!!!!(I hope....) 😀

Just so that everyone is clear... Robbies (the bar) is a gay bar... so if you are into that sort of crowd, enjoy! 😀 They have a cross-dressing show, and they are open on the weekends (Friday/Saturday/Sunday). They are good "neighbors" and don't interfere with anything that happens at the school. The open up to the school every year for the annual Halloween party, which is always a lot of fun.

 

[Laloz]

One other thing I thought deserving mention, was that in reading posts on SDN, I was concerned about COMP because I heard there have been problems with a lack of support with third and fourth year rotations; however, the fourth year student said that that couldn't be further from the truth. They have extensive support for third and forth year students, and in his words, it took him five minutes to set up is third year rotations, and another five minutes to set up is fourth year rotations. He said he just went to the office where they set these up and asked her where the rotations were, and she showed him. He said he wanted this and that etc. and he was done. Also, he didn't have to move. He's apparently been staying in the same location in Pomona for the entire time he's been going to school at COMP. I think that would be important to me in choosing whether or not to apply to schools like Touro-NV or KCOM where I've been reading most students have to move for rotations.

As a 4th year at COMP, I can attest to the fact that 4th year rotations (for us) HAVE NOT been a breezy walk in the park to set up. 3rd year rotations were chosen by lotto, which worked very well, but there have been MULTIPLE problems with 4th year rotations (applications to programs not turned in, deadlines missed, mistakes in scheduling, etc). In talking to classes ahead of ours, this problem is not unique to our class. However, I anticipate that this will be changing, as the whole rotations process is not a little different for 3rd year. It remains to be seen if the 4th year will be different too (for classes under mine). I feel like rotations are strong, and I've been extremely happy with the training that I've gotten. (Sure some rotations are better than others, but that's life.) It is possible to do 3rd and 4th year without moving, which is certainly a big factor when comparing to other schools. Understand that this is SoCal, however, and you may have to drive to a few rotations with traffic (ouch).

 

[EastWestN2grt]

Just so that everyone is clear... Robbies (the bar) is a gay bar... so if you are into that sort of crowd, enjoy! 😀 They have a cross-dressing show, and they are open on the weekends (Friday/Saturday/Sunday). They are good "neighbors" and don't interfere with anything that happens at the school. The open up to the school every year for the annual Halloween party, which is always a lot of fun.

I personally dont swing that way.....(I like my women...especially one in particular) but I will have absolutely NOOOOO problem stopping by for a drink, and enjoying the 'peculiarities' esp. the cross-dressing show. BRING IT ON ROBBIES!!!!

Hey i got it...lets start...Queer eye, for the straight Doc.... doesnt ring to well....how bout...Queer drinks on the rocks, for the straight Docs.....much better..... 😀

 

[Jinyaoysiu]

I personally dont swing that way.....(I like my women...especially one in particular) but I will have absolutely NOOOOO problem stopping by for a drink, and enjoying the 'peculiarities' esp. the cross-dressing show. BRING IT ON ROBBIES!!!!

Hey i got it...lets start...Queer eye, for the straight Doc.... doesnt ring to well....how bout...Queer drinks on the rocks, for the straight Docs.....much better..... 😀

There's also a straight bar on campus called "Characters" behind the Subway. People go there all the time to drink after classes or exams.

 

[markboonya]

I have to agree. I was at the conference as well, and they really impressed me, especially with the new curriculum change effected this year. They have jumped to the top of my school list.

BUT how can you NOT like the close proximity of the bar....WOOOHHHOOOO!!!Im sure after a long exam I will spending a few stafford dollars on more than a few pints....I just hope they have Guinness....

WESTERN(and bar on campus) HERE I COME!!!!!(I hope....) 😀

whats specific changes is the curriculum undergoing? oh and for u guys who got interview invites before even sending in ur secondaries, do u mind sharing ur scores?

 

[Ski2Doc]

Hey, does an1 know how far pomona is from the hollywood area. Got some relatives there and i know its about 35 miles, but in real life LA traffic?
Also how bad of a hood is pomona?

 

[MD Rapper]

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[cosmicstarr]

Hey, does an1 know how far pomona is from the hollywood area. Got some relatives there and i know its about 35 miles, but in real life LA traffic?
Also how bad of a hood is pomona?

Also, most of the heavy traffic is westbound (towards LA) during the morning rush hours and then eastbound during the afternoon/evening rush hours.

A lot of Pomona isn't the best, but you can find some good Mexican food and some authentic taco stands that are similar to what you can get in Mexico. Like the previous poster stated, there are nice communities near Pomona. Diamond Bar is nice and even has a community with multimillion dollar homes. You also aren't too far from Northern Orange County.

 

[girlsporty]

Also, most of the heavy traffic is westbound (towards LA) during the morning rush hours and then eastbound during the afternoon/evening rush hours.

A lot of Pomona isn't the best, but you can find some good Mexican food and some authentic taco stands that are similar to what you can get in Mexico. Like the previous poster stated, there are nice communities near Pomona. Diamond Bar is nice and even has a community with multimillion dollar homes. You also aren't too far from Northern Orange County.

Hey there, so as a native New Yorker (temporarily exiled in the tundra), I naively assumed that I'd seen the worst traffic ever. No way!! I mistakenly left a mere hour and a half to go from west hollywood to USC one friday morning in march to meet a professor while I was on vacation. This 4 mile trip took over an hour and a half. Of course, I didn't know the back roads or anything, but was clearly shocked into acknowledging why SoCal residents like nice cars... because they live in them!!!

 

[OnMyWayThere]

Hey, does an1 know how far pomona is from the hollywood area. Got some relatives there and i know its about 35 miles, but in real life LA traffic?
Also how bad of a hood is pomona?

Your morning drive should have NO traffic (or little) as well as your drive back. The general rule: Traffic in mornings TOWARDS L.A. and in the evening AWAY FROM L.A. (and vice versa). You'll be driving away from LA in the morning so you'll be okay.

 

[OnMyWayThere]

As a 4th year at COMP, I can attest to the fact that 4th year rotations (for us) HAVE NOT been a breezy walk in the park to set up. 3rd year rotations were chosen by lotto, which worked very well, but there have been MULTIPLE problems with 4th year rotations (applications to programs not turned in, deadlines missed, mistakes in scheduling, etc). In talking to classes ahead of ours, this problem is not unique to our class. However, I anticipate that this will be changing, as the whole rotations process is not a little different for 3rd year. It remains to be seen if the 4th year will be different too (for classes under mine). I feel like rotations are strong, and I've been extremely happy with the training that I've gotten. (Sure some rotations are better than others, but that's life.) It is possible to do 3rd and 4th year without moving, which is certainly a big factor when comparing to other schools. Understand that this is SoCal, however, and you may have to drive to a few rotations with traffic (ouch).

I've heard these problems CONSISTENTLY from upperclassmen and alumni - so keep this in mind.

 

[hottie]

It has been more than three weeks, and I have not received any invite to complete a secondary applic. Is this normal? Should I call the school or just wait? Anybody out there almost in the same boat with me? 🙂

 

[NRAI2001]

hey thanks for the detailed insight. i am hoping to go to their next orientation thing in november. how diverse were the students there? and i heard the campus is quite ugly, but is under going a face lift. did u get to see any of the new renovations?

Yo Markie, when are we gonna go check out touro?