What are some dental schools that are to be avoided?

[Rvting]

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Made a whole list of dental schools from dental school explorer. Which schools should be avoided like the plague and why? Don't worry about qualifications being met but rather more about the logistics of the school.

 

[Bigjt1420]

Made a whole list of dental schools from dental school explorer. Which schools should be avoided like the plague and why? Don't worry about qualifications being met but rather more about the logistics of the school.

I know of 2, USC and NYU based off of price alone. There are other issues with the schools but those are the biggies for me.

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

Which schools should be avoided like the plague and why?

Any school that has a cost of attendance exceeding $400,000. Why? I’ll answer that question with a question: Have you ever known the joy of paying back student loans?

Big Hoss

 

[Rvting]

Any school that has a cost of attendance exceeding $400,000. Why? I’ll answer that question with a question: Have you ever known the joy of paying back student loans?

Big Hoss

I get that but it seems that 90% of schools are costing +400,000$ according to dental school explore.

 

[GoDental101]

I get that but it seems that 90% of schools are costing +400,000$ according to dental school explore.

and?

 

[John Muir]

University of Michigan unless instate. Reason: Little/no clinical education in peds, endo, oral surgery, digital dentistry, or ortho.

 

[Tvirtumas]

I've read and talked to people who had interesting things to say about Tufts and Detroit Mercy

 

[Rvting]

I've read and talked to people who had interesting things to say about Tufts and Detroit Mercy

I heard UDM's undergrad is just horrible through and through, BUT their dent school is really good. What were those "interesting" things you've heard, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Tvirtumas]

I heard UDM's undergrad is just horrible through and through, BUT their dent school is really good. What were those "interesting" things you've heard, if you don't mind me asking?

It was just issues with faculty.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Be more specific about "logistics".

 

[Rvting]

Be more specific about "logistics".

Anything about the school other than "its too expensive", "no social life", "really difficult to get in". Something like quality of the school itself, maybe its one of those predatory schools I hear so much about.

 

[kayool]

The days of avoiding schools like nyu/usc solely bc of cost is no more. Bc over the last few years, dentall school have risen in price so much where they are all nearly idectical.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Anything about the school other than "its too expensive", "no social life", "really difficult to get in". Something like quality of the school itself, maybe its one of those predatory schools I hear so much about.

Are you going to this weekend's ADEA GoDental Recruitment Fair in-person?

All the schools in general are good quality though I would avoid programs affiliated with for-profit medical schools (CNU), but you already mentioned avoiding predatory schools. It all depends on what you are looking for. Hence "logistics"... does that mean the clinic being busy and full of patients? Does it mean doing rotations around the city or region or state during 3rd/4th year?

Most people feel that board passage rates are your best indication of "quality". You should balance whether you want to go to a school that tends to have a lot of specialty opportunities or those that focus more on community health. Interprofessional curricula and "evidence-based dentistry" are also big, so you need to do your homework on what it means to you. Look at it like an investment and which opportunities you feel will put you in the best position to get your return on paying off your debt soon. (Insert all the issues with dental school tuition being outrageous here.)

Of course, look into the Health Professions Scholarship Program run by the armed services. If you qualify and want to have part of your training be in military dentistry in exchange for all your costs for attending being paid for you, then you can be picky. I'd ask anyone who has done HPSP or the HPSP recruiters about their perspective of which schools do a better job preparing students for practice.

 

[carsandmedicine]

anything over 420k. Shoot for a P/NP school. Nicer area too. Honestly, apply broadly and start doing heavy research once you get interviews. Say you get 4 interviews, find students from those schools and ask them about their academic life, social life, clinical life, etc.

 

[PerioDont]

The days of avoiding schools like nyu/usc solely bc of cost is no more. Bc over the last few years, dentall school have risen in price so much where they are all nearly idectical.

We should then consider avoiding dental school if paying with loans entirely.

The market has spoken.

 

[GoDental101]

The days of avoiding schools like nyu/usc solely bc of cost is no more. Bc over the last few years, dentall school have risen in price so much where they are all nearly idectical.

Don’t accept the mindset of you have to go to dental school no matter the cost. I know it’s hard now when you think that’s your future, but look at it like any purchase. You wouldn’t buy a car if the cost was going to cripple you for the next 30-40 years, you’d find another way to get around such as public transport, biking, walking, riding a horse etc. Whatever it is you gotta do to get you from point A to point B in the most reasonable manner is what you should look to do. Same goes for finding your career don’t get tunnel vision that dentistry is the only way to have the life you wanna have if the cost of entry into dentistry is going to be too high.

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

The days of avoiding schools like nyu/usc solely bc of cost is no more. Bc over the last few years, dentall school have risen in price so much where they are all nearly idectical.

And eventually a tipping point will be reached and the number of applicants will collapse. Schools will be forced to close. It has happened before and it will happen again.

Plagued by Falling Enrollment, Dental Schools Close or Cut Back (Published 1987)

www.nytimes.com

Big Hoss

 

[GoDental101]

And eventually a tipping point will be reached and the number of applicants will collapse. Schools will be forced to close. It has happened before and it will happen again.

Plagued by Falling Enrollment, Dental Schools Close or Cut Back (Published 1987)

www.nytimes.com

Big Hoss

The big difference between now and then (besides the much higher cost today) is the federal student loan interest rates got up to about 14% in the 1980s compared to todays top federal student loan rates of about 8%. If they got back up with todays cost of dental school then you will for sure want to think twice before diving in.

 

[carsandmedicine]

The big difference between now and then (besides the much higher cost today) is the federal student loan interest rates got up to about 14% in the 1980s compared to todays top federal student loan rates of about 8%. If they got back up with todays cost of dental school then you will for sure want to think twice before diving in.

I dont even think it would be an option lmao, imagine a student going to USC and being 600k in debt at 14%. jesus

 

[deleted903013]

I dont even think it would be an option lmao, imagine a student going to USC and being 600k in debt at 14%. jesus

I guarantee you some pre-dents would still do it.

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

I guarantee you some pre-dents would still do it.

Big Hoss

 

[ESPN907]

All of them, avoid all of them

 

[GoDental101]

All of them, avoid all of them

That’s not true either. Good options include your state school, texas schools, and schools that offer instate after the first year. As well as living as cheaply as possible and possibly working part time during dental school.