What are you ????

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What is your ethnicity?

  • Asian

    Votes: 62 31.0%
  • Caucasian

    Votes: 86 43.0%
  • African American

    Votes: 10 5.0%
  • Hispanic / Latino

    Votes: 11 5.5%
  • Arab

    Votes: 12 6.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 18 9.0%

  • Total voters
    200
Rather than having "Arab" as a category, you should try Southeast Asian or Middle Eastern.
 
The pride of Peshawar, Pakistan. 😀

Power of the Pathan !!!
 
Paki here as well! Nice breakdown fightingspirit! 🙂
 
Other - Persian Pride Baby
 
other-persian baby!
 
ramona_k said:
other-persian baby!

Hell yeah, glad to see many persians interested in dentistry. 👍 I say we should have a persian category. 😀
 
fightingspirit said:
wow....there's more than one arab here....awesome!

salam guys and gals...

shido 7aylkum tara aku hwaayiah may 7iboona.....ou alif mabrook lily 7asal kobool....wily maa 7asal 5aly yibka yinaathil ....amreeca may 7asal beeha ela elyy galba min 7ajar ou sabra taweel.....ou tara mahma yigloon ou mahma yit'taw'roon, akthar'hum efarikoon ou yikrahoon el-3arab ou may yardoon el-3arab eb amreeca eseer ib'raashum 5ayr. salam 3ala'l 7abayib

For all of you that don't speak arabic I would like to translate.

What up guys and gals...

Student Doctor dot net is the shiz.....I'm way excited to be a dentist.....I would be a lot more excited if there weren't so many ******s on SDN that will be in the same profession as me.....I mean how many times am I going to have to read the phrase, what are my chances.....Oh well, at least I'll be pulling in loads of cash....Well, that's all I have to say, remember the alamo. Peace out Hommies

Remember this not exactly a literal translation, but it's pretty close.
 
donkeywhisperer said:
For all of you that don't speak arabic I would like to translate.

What up guys and gals...

Student Doctor dot net is the shiz.....I'm way excited to be a dentist.....I would be a lot more excited if there weren't so many ******s on SDN that will be in the same profession as me.....I mean how many times am I going to have to read the phrase, what are my chances.....Oh well, at least I'll be pulling in loads of cash....Well, that's all I have to say, remember the alamo. Peace out Hommies

Remember this not exactly a literal translation, but it's pretty close.



Yeah, I was wondering about all those 7's and 3's :meanie:
 
i think im the only Albanian here.....
 
arash said:
Hell yeah, glad to see many persians interested in dentistry. 👍 I say we should have a persian category. 😀

Amen to that! 😀 I say we should have a whole seperate website for persian predentals, pre-meds, pre-health in general since as you know we are all to become either doctor or "mohandes" of some kind.
 
lol.

its funny how arabs/persians that come to the u.s. they have to become dr. or engineers or something.. or they are considered outcasts from their families..
 
albodent said:
i think im the only Albanian here.....
Haha I used to work with a real cool albanian...he taught me one word, "budalla" :laugh:
 
fightingspirit said:
nope.....would not work and here is why:

1-southeast asian IS asian and southeast asians are not arabs, nor arabs are southeast asians
2-the term middle eastern is a geographic area that includes iranians and jews, as well as arabs. iranians are not semites.

therefore, the best way to categorize arabs is to create a category titled "arab"....that way, you'd include the nonmiddleeastern (north african, including egypt) arabs that actually constitute the majority of arabs. last but not least, keep in mind that the term arab or arabic refers to ethnicity only...not race: arabs from sudan are black but arabs from lebanon and syria can be as blond as scandinavians. arabs from yemen can look like short-statured mexicans while those from jordan and the palestinian territories can be taller and bulkier than the swedes. however, keep in mind that although every arab is a semite, not every semite is an arab; non-arab semites are jews.



Very good explanation. Anay 3arabi, wal asil min belad alrafidayn. Alif hala' be kul al3arab almawjewdeen. 🙂
 
fightingspirit said:
you are right in one sense but perhaps wrong in another.

right sense: third world societies are not advanced to the level that creates a large and diverse array of occupations. so they dot have such a thing as business, marketing, advetisement ...etc. the only people who end up actually working are health care professionals and engineers. therefore, even when those peoples immigrate to western societies, they retain their way of thinking and so push their american born kids to become docs or engineers.

wrong sense: western society and caucasian standards of handsomeness pushes nonwhite males into professions that are mostly based on intellectual facutlies as opposed to physical attributes. it is hard for a persian or arab man with naturally joined eyebrows to be in a soap opera. if they have an accent, they'd make lousy sails persons. the fact that they are new immigrants means that they dont have a solid social base of support therefore they cannot really go up the corporate ladder or get into good advertiesement firms...etc...you get the drill. in summary, usually, men and women of nonwhite immigrant families find themselves forced by society to pursue health professions or engineering.



I always thought it was b/c only the rich non-whites made it to the states. typically the the wealthiest people in every country are going to be the health professionals and the engineers. Even in U.S., it seems that these professions make up the bulk of the upper middle class. The truly rich people (athletes, actors, wealthy entrepreneurs, politicians) only make up a very small portion of all americans. I can imagine its a very expensive venture to come all the way to America and start something. Think about it, usually its only the wealthy americans who have the opportunity to travel and vacation to other countries. it would make sense that only the wealthy from other country can make it here.
 
fightingspirit said:
you are right in one sense but perhaps wrong in another.

right sense: third world societies are not advanced to the level that creates a large and diverse array of occupations. so they dot have such a thing as business, marketing, advetisement ...etc. the only people who end up actually working are health care professionals and engineers. therefore, even when those peoples immigrate to western societies, they retain their way of thinking and so push their american born kids to become docs or engineers.

wrong sense: western society and caucasian standards of handsomeness pushes nonwhite males into professions that are mostly based on intellectual facutlies as opposed to physical attributes. it is hard for a persian or arab man with naturally joined eyebrows to be in a soap opera. if they have an accent, they'd make lousy sails persons. the fact that they are new immigrants means that they dont have a solid social base of support therefore they cannot really go up the corporate ladder or get into good advertiesement firms...etc...you get the drill. in summary, usually, men and women of nonwhite immigrant families find themselves forced by society to pursue health professions or engineering.


To blame society for what you end up doing is kind of stupid. Boo-hoo, we're immigrants and we *think* that we wont fit in anywhere unless we have a Dr. in front of our name. NOT true.(I'm not trying to be racist or judgemental, my parents were immigrants too)
 
rocknightmare said:
lol.

its funny how arabs/persians that come to the u.s. they have to become dr. or engineers or something.. or they are considered outcasts from their families..

I don't agree with what you said and especially with the last part. First of all they don't have to, but they prefer to, and second of all they won't be outcasts from their family if they don't. For a fact I know that my family would be happy with me being a teacher, a cop, or a musician as long as I am happy, BUT, there is a big but here, they will be happier if I'll be a doctor. 😀 or an engineer. People are called doctors and engineers from the day they get accepted to a university in Iran. :laugh:
 
fightingspirit said:
let us agree to disagree 😀 😀 😀...not blaming society here....it is just a contributing factor. sorry but an indian guy with indian looks (not half white or somethin) cannot become an actor in one of those WB11 shows.....imagine if the main actor in smallville is asian?...

That would be kinda weird cause superman is a white dude from Kansas... well actually he's a white dude from the long extinct planet Krypton, but you get what I mean.
 
fightingspirit said:
you're right.......but you also get my point i am sure.....forget superman. think of seventh heaven.......think of friends...etc...

Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's pretty laim though, I mean I think a lot of that has to do with what studio execs think will sell. I wish they would have a little more faith in their audience's racial tolerance. I mean look at how well "Bend It Like Beckham" did. Well... I guess that chick did make it on to E.R.
Any way, yes I get what you are saying.
 
fightingspirit said:
lol....once again you are right but remember, bend it like bekham is in fact reinforcing the stereotype that the white male reigns supreme in the realm of glamor. we've seen it time and again in america's streets and universities: the nonwhite chicks chasing the white dudes. i will certainly change my opinions when i see a movie like "the punisher" or "mission impossible" with an asian or indian male heroic character, provided that people get interested in paying 10 bucks to see it. with that said, i think we ought to end the discussion because it has gone beyond the intended scope of this thread. 😳 😳

Well there was Rush Hour and Rush Hour II which had a black and an asian as the leads, but I know what you mean, the vast majority of big blockbuster movies always have a white male as the star. I agree with what you are saying I just always like to play the devil's advocate.

On a separate note, you mentioned in an earlier post something about how western society doesn't find the typical Arab man with the unibrow attractive. I thought that was kind of a universal culture thing, like unsightly back hair and stuff, but maybe I'm just ignorant. Do Arab chicks dig the single eyebrow thing? I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just curious. I mean I know what it's like to be hairy, and I'm not talking hairy like a cool Tom Selleck kinda hairy. I'm like one of those white apes on the movie Congo. One of my buddies even used to call me silverback. And in football I was known as fire cro..... well you get what I'm sayin'.
 
Just to be contrary---the Superman on the tv show Lois and Clark (back in the 90s), was Dean Cain, and I'm sorry, but he did not fit the physical ideal of any superman I'd seen up until then. Where were the blue eyes? MIA, that's what :laugh:


donkeywhisperer said:
That would be kinda weird cause superman is a white dude from Kansas... well actually he's a white dude from the long extinct planet Krypton, but you get what I mean.
 
Good point. In fact, Dean Cain's 1/4 Asian.
 
arash said:
I don't agree with what you said and especially with the last part. First of all they don't have to, but they prefer to, and second of all they won't be outcasts from their family if they don't. For a fact I know that my family would be happy with me being a teacher, a cop, or a musician as long as I am happy, BUT, there is a big but here, they will be happier if I'll be a doctor. 😀 or an engineer. People are called doctors and engineers from the day they get accepted to a university in Iran. :laugh:


Dude, with all respect, if your from Iran and your talking about your parents being happy if you where a musician....that full of **** right there man. Not even the Shah himself would except his son or daughter being a musician.
 
rambo2006 said:
Dude, with all respect, if your from Iran and your talking about your parents being happy if you where a musician....that full of **** right there man. Not even the Shah himself would except his son or daughter being a musician.

Dude that was ofcourse just an example. And FYI I have been playing the piano for more than 12 years and I could make a living just by that. Not every Iranian living in U.S is a doctor or an engineer. Then would you say all other's parents are unhappy Iranians? No doubt they would be happier if all Iranians were doctors, but I know and you know that's not gonna happen. And I could care less about Shah's son, Im not sure what you meant by that 😕 Shah's son would have been THE shah if he had the chance, not a doctor.
 
I see that majority of asians want to be Doc/dentist/pharm/engineering and such. However don't forget that these people want to ensure some stability in life. they don't want to take a chance so they go with safe route. In my freinds and families most of them are doctors/engineeris to begin with. They all worked for 10 or so years in their job but they all have given up their jobs and joined a small business in Hotel, gas stations and other stuff where they don't have to work 30+ hours a week and has a steady income and only one person has to work to support the family. They use their degrees to get working capital for what they want to do, and their degree is their insurance if their business fails. My uncle just gave up his cardiology practice after working for only 12 years to get in the taco bells and Hotels. he was making good mony but didn't like to deal with ins. companies and liked working 20 hours a day and still being able to make $hit load of money. These people don't like to work under someboday period. 9-5 jobs are not their thing and that is the reason you don't see many Indians in the corporate world.

As far as the TV/movies/singing etc. goes, this is pure business and these people supply what public demands. If they think that by having an asian in the leading role they would make more money, they would have him. It will take a time before there will be market for people from different backgrounds in US. Don't forget that America has been a free society for only 40+ years. These changes take time. Another 40 years and you will many many more people from different backgrounds in these industry.
 
arash said:
I don't agree with what you said and especially with the last part. First of all they don't have to, but they prefer to, and second of all they won't be outcasts from their family if they don't. For a fact I know that my family would be happy with me being a teacher, a cop, or a musician as long as I am happy, BUT, there is a big but here, they will be happier if I'll be a doctor. 😀 or an engineer. People are called doctors and engineers from the day they get accepted to a university in Iran. :laugh:

how about as they grew up your parents call you doctor! people, specially guys call each other "mohandes" or "doctor" as a substitution for the word "dude" :laugh: -- and a unibraw is wierd! Just wax it or something!lol
 
ramona_k said:
how about as they grew up your parents call you doctor! people, specially guys call each other "mohandes" or "doctor" as a substitution for the word "dude" :laugh: -- and a unibraw is wierd! Just wax it or something!lol

Oochike Dr. Romano :laugh:

Sencerely,

Dr. Arash
 
Badtz-Mawu said:
Good point. In fact, Dean Cain's 1/4 Asian.

My, you're on the ball, 1/4 really?
 
amsie said:
To blame society for what you end up doing is kind of stupid. Boo-hoo, we're immigrants and we *think* that we wont fit in anywhere unless we have a Dr. in front of our name. NOT true.(I'm not trying to be racist or judgemental, my parents were immigrants too)


😉
 
ramona_k said:
how about as they grew up your parents call you doctor! people, specially guys call each other "mohandes" or "doctor" as a substitution for the word "dude" :laugh: -- and a unibraw is wierd! Just wax it or something!lol

I cant imagine an irooni who has grown up in the states and still carries a unibrow with him. Thats too fresh off the boat.
 
arash said:
Oochike Dr. Romano :laugh:

Sencerely,

Dr. Arash

Proud Persian as well. Nice endinggg future doctors Arash & Ramona. I followed the whole discussion, who cares what others say, you do what u like & I think we Persians like to be among the wealthy & educated people b/c our life expectations are higher than other immigrants. But of course that's not every Persian. According to the U.S. government, among all other immigrants in the U.S. we have one the highest number of educated individuals.
 
benson_dds said:
Proud Persian as well. Nice endinggg future doctors Arash & Ramona. I followed the whole discussion, who cares what others say, you do what u like & I think we Persians like to be among the wealthy & educated people b/c our life expectations are higher than other immigrants. But of course that's not every Persian. According to the U.S. government, among all other immigrants in the U.S. we have one the highest number of educated individuals.

Yeah, of all minorities living in the states, persians have the greatest percentage of people with at least a bachelors degree.
 
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