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[Sunshine 88]

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I passed writtens on my FIRST attempt and have failed again this fall on my third attempt at the orals
I prepared very well this time which was also assured by Jensen my attending , boardstiff and some others out there
So the only reason I didn't make it ,is because I am FMG and can't change the way I look!!!!!
This is prof---ng!!!!!
The exam is subjective and they will keep failing you if they don't like the way you look
This is a lost cause

 

[Consigliere]

I passed writtens on my FIRST attempt and have failed again this fall on my third attempt at the orals
I prepared very well this time which was also assured by Jensen my attending , boardstiff and some others out there
So the only reason I didn't make it ,is because I am FMG and can't change the way I look!!!!!
This is prof---ng!!!!!
The exam is subjective and they will keep failing you if they don't like the way you look
This is a lost cause

Ummmmm. What about the thousands of other FMG's who have passed the orals? I guess the examiners "liked the way they looked." 🙄

 

[pgg]

I passed writtens on my FIRST attempt and have failed again this fall on my third attempt at the orals
I prepared very well this time which was also assured by Jensen my attending , boardstiff and some others out there
So the only reason I didn't make it ,is because I am FMG and can't change the way I look!!!!!
This is prof---ng!!!!!
The exam is subjective and they will keep failing you if they don't like the way you look
This is a lost cause

Sorry to hear you didn't pass. What's your plan now?

You might consider some language coaching, because if your knowledge and decision making is up to the task, it's probably more the way you talk than the way you look.

 

[deleted126335]

Ummmmm. What about the thousands of other FMG's who have passed the orals? I guess the examiners "liked the way they looked." 🙄

Is it the way you looked or the way that you communicated? Poor command of English and inability to establish rapport are burdens that will cripple you in the orals and clinical practice and everyday life. Remember this is the American Board of Anesthesiology. If I were to relocate to a non English speaking country I would expect to be judged by patients and colleagues on my knowledge of local language and ability to function in a different culture.

 

[cincincyreds]

Yo man. That sucks. Just suck it up and keep trying. You can only do your best, so there is no point in killing yourself over this. As long as you have your health you will be fine. The whole oral exam thing is juts a way for a few greedy Anesthesiologist to make extra coin anyway. There is nothing proven this exam actually improves the quality of the speciality. If I remember, for one apparent reason, females do statistically better than males on this exam. I wonder why??? I mean, if they really wanted to improve the quality of Anesthesia, they would have kicked out the crna's a long time ago. But then again, our specialty has been taken over by a bunch of greedy people who have sold out the specialty.

 

[michigangirl]

Does three fails on the oral now mean you have to take the written again? Agree with many of the comments here-- yes, the exam is subjective but there has got to be a consistent reason why this exam isn't going well for you if you have the knowledge base down. I know some folks who failed twice but it was because they couldn't get their thoughts together and just choked-- great anesthesiologists, not good in the oral exam setting. Did you come out feeling like you did well each time?

 

[pgg]

Does three fails on the oral now mean you have to take the written again?

Not sure, the ABA booklet of information doesn't address failing. I believe those who fail the oral x3 must retake the written, then oral.

Then I think those who fail the oral x6 (total) need an additional year of residency to become eligible to re-enter the examination system. I'm not sure how this works, or where they get that additional year.

 

[Narcotized]

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[PMPMD]

Not sure, the ABA booklet of information doesn't address failing. I believe those who fail the oral x3 must retake the written, then oral.

Then I think those who fail the oral x6 (total) need an additional year of residency to become eligible to re-enter the examination system. I'm not sure how this works, or where they get that additional year.

I also tried looking this up, it's not in the ABA BOI or any of the PDFs for Part 1 or 2. But I have heard this from my PD who is a huge stickler for the rules.

 

[Pietrantonio]

Gee, I have no idea why. 🙄

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[KungPOWChicken]

Waiting for the HO advertisement. BTW I took a big crap on his book and flushed it down the toilet. I'm glad I didn't pay for the course or his book!!!

 

[periopdoc]

All of the board prep places seem to agree that if you fail the orals three times, you have to retake the written in order to apply for another shot at the oral exam and if you fail six times you have to either take an additional year of residency or take the ITE. I haven't seen any support for these claims on the ABA provided exam info, but if all the review sites are saying it, it is likely true.

From Jensen's Site

As usual, I think that I am more confused after looking at one of Jensen's diagrams than I was before hand.

A while back I posted about a email solicitation that I received from UMASS advertising a 1-year Advanced Clinical Anesthesiology Fellowship. I believe that this is one of the situations that this "fellowship" was designed for. I suspect that most larger residency programs would be willing to set up a similar "slave-labor year" arrangement. Free money for them since they can put you in an OR as an attending for a couple of days per week and pay you a small percentage of what they collect for your services.

Overall failure rate on the boards is about 20% (although I believe this is for all takers and I don't know what it is for just first time takers). Clearly they are eliminating somebody. Seeing some of the folks who successfully navigated the process one has to wonder if they are being hard enough.


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