What percent passes the USMLEI and II

[ronaldo23]

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at St. George's University, and the other 3 of the big 4 caribbean schools.

 

[sexyman]

i would imagine passing the usmle is the same for SGU, Ross, AUC, and Harvard students...

 

[ronaldo23]

why would you imagine that?

in the US overall for allopathic is likes 92, osteopathic 74 and international 50%...but im assuming at the big 4 it is higher than the overall 50% international

 

[sexyman]

ha im sorry i read your question like "how many questions do you have to get right to pass the usmle when you go to school at ..." lol that would have been pretty dumb sorry for that

Um I believe allopathic is roughly 98 percent and SGU has 90%, I also think your right about DO being 74%. And all international is aroun 56%.

 

[ronaldo23]

do you have any proof of this 90%? I really, really would question that fact. and the US allopathic is not 98%, it is very low 90s (91 or 92) which is why I question that 90% from sgu.

 

[sexyman]

"St. George's University has an eight-year average pass rate of 90 percent for first-time USMLE Step One examinees, far exceeding the 65 percent average pass rate of all non-US schools during that period."

*Published, 2005 NBME Annual Report, Copyright 2006 NBME.


I got that from the SGU book they sent me with the app. Does that mean something other than what you asked for? It is possible that it does cause its just step I.

 

[sexyman]

Seems like you ask a good question...all the stats I see vary widely. I suppose pass rates can change each year.

 

[McGillGrad]

There is a reason why it is 90%+

You are not allowed to take Step 1 unless you pass internal evaluation exams. So the people that would fail will be filtered out before they take Step 1.

 

[bulletproof]

There is a reason why it is 90%+

You are not allowed to take Step 1 unless you pass internal evaluation exams. So the people that would fail will be filtered out before they take Step 1.

You know, people talk about this all the time. Basically, the internal evaluation exams at Ross,at least from 2004 through mid 2005, were your Mini exams. If you had ever failed a class or had less than like a 2.9 GPA you were required to sit for a comprehensive examination at the end of 4th semester, which you needed to pass, or else you were required to go into a program called BMSI which was supposed to help you integrate all of your basic science knowledge prior to step I.

The percentage of people left behind in BMSI for any given class was definitely < 10%, ie. 90% moving on to 5th semester, and Step I. Of, course, this does not represent 90% of your original group of 250 or so at the time as you have lost others due to attrition.

At that time, Ross was quoting a 92% pass rate, which apparently was reflective of testtakers from January 2001 through December 2003. Link to that figure:http://www.rossu.edu/med/academics/faqsaboutaca_061.cfm

I am not aware of any newer stats.

 

[aggiegolf]

St. Matthew's reported above 80% a little over a year ago, but now they're reporting 93%. The drastic increase looked bizarre to me. I know a lot of their students take some prep class that lasts for several weeks so maybe that has something to do with it.

 

[Meatwad]

St. Matthew's reported above 80% a little over a year ago, but now they're reporting 93%. The drastic increase looked bizarre to me. I know a lot of their students take some prep class that lasts for several weeks so maybe that has something to do with it.

They are probably just doing what MGG explained above that other Carib schools do; artificially raise pass rates by not letting everyone take the test, just those they deem most likely to pass.

 

[Pathlesstrvld]

.... now they're reporting 93%. The drastic increase looked bizarre to me. I know a lot of their students take some prep class that lasts for several weeks so maybe that has something to do with it.

No better proof than to experience it first hand. The review course is Kaplan, approximately 8 weeks, with 2 evaluation exams. Depending on the score, you either get the green light or you are asked to study more. Anyway, the results are obvious.

Furthermore, this type of system is no different than a US student who takes a commercial review course, including self-evaluation through the NBME services, and honestly determines his or her level of competency and preparedness. Whether the process is "artificial" or not, whatever that means, in my class, for example, everyone has taken the exam so far. To the best of my knowledge I have only heard of 3 students who failed.

BTW, 1st time pass rates for non-US/ Canadian schools is 71% according to usmle.org. Considering that many of these students were once the so called "US rejects", even 71% is a blatant contradiction of US admission process, which at best gave many of these kids a shot in dark to make it even this far.

 

[Pathlesstrvld]

.....At that time, Ross was quoting a 92% pass rate, which apparently was reflective of testtakers from January 2001 through December 2003. Link to that figure:http://www.rossu.edu/med/academics/faqsaboutaca_061.cfm.....

Also do not forget the students who transfer into Ross clinicals after passing the Step 1. But as far as stats are concerned, these are Ross students who passed.