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Is there any statistical data showing what percentage of students who label themselves "Pre Med" as a freshmen actually go on to become a doctor? Simply Curious. What do you guys think?
Is there any statistical data showing what percentage of students who label themselves "Pre Med" as a freshmen actually go on to become a doctor? Simply Curious. What do you guys think?
For the sake of discussion, let's consider any freshman that has ever said the words "I want to be a doctor" or "I'm pre-med"What determines a pre-med is the question. We all had those oblivious people in our chem 1 class that wanted to be a doctor then next semester they were communication majors. So <<<20% if you include them but only including those that have completed all prereqs 20-40
Is there any statistical data showing what percentage of students who label themselves "Pre Med" as a freshmen actually go on to become a doctor? Simply Curious. What do you guys think?
At my university that I used to attend (2nd largest in the country) my O-chem class had about 400 students. By the time finals rolled around it had about 150 and most were passing with a C. Make of that what you will.
At My UG (which Is one of the most pre-medical in the U.S.), the professor on the first day of freshman gen chem said "1 in 3 students at ____ university will start out premed. 1 in 10 will be accepted to med school. It is my job to find the 1/10 in that 1/3."
Where I did my post-bacc (really just second degree) a lot of the chemistry department hated pre-meds and revered all research. Out of my class and the one above me, three of us applied. One kid screwed his app up so bad last year (Had like a sub 30 with maybe 3.5), applied in September, got IIs to a couple of VA schools, then DECLINED them because they weren't up to his par (wanted to go to Dartmouth / Brown) Another one went to the Carib and I'm pretty sure is failing out.I'd be interested to hear how many people make it to the MCAT with a high GPA and then can't crack 30+/what they need to be competitive, as opposed to getting weeded out in prereqs much sooner
😱Where I did my post-bacc (really just second degree) a lot of the chemistry department hated pre-meds and revered all research. Out of my class and the one above me, three of us applied. One kid screwed his app up so bad last year (Had like a sub 30 with maybe 3.5), applied in September, got IIs to a couple of VA schools, then DECLINED them because they weren't up to his par (wanted to go to Dartmouth / Brown) Another one went to the Carib and I'm pretty sure is failing out.
At my school we were told it's 8% of freshmen pre-meds that make it to medical school
Many of the people that started my pre-med course sequence with me didn't make it far enough to sit in an O-chem lecture hall. And as that year went on, more and more vanished.
Honestly for the pre meds who quit because they think they're not good enough academically, I really believe a huge chunk would have good shot at DO. With a 3.3 or above (not to mention grade replacement) and >24 mcat they would have a great shot at all the shady new DO schools. But most of them probably were fantasizing about being neurosurgeons with the fancy MD title behind their names...
if you count all the D.O. schools also, there should be >60% acceptance each year
Is your UG UCSD?I bet if you looked at every student who at some point has said they're gonna be pre med (regardless of even enrolling in any of the prereqs) it's probably <5%.
If you were to look at people who actually signed up to take at least 1 pre-req then got discouraged...maybe 20%?
At My UG (which Is one of the most pre-medical in the U.S.), the professor on the first day of freshman gen chem said "1 in 3 students at ____ university will start out premed. 1 in 10 will be accepted to med school. It is my job to find the 1/10 in that 1/3."
Is your UG UCSD?
I dont think so, I think the acceptance rate overall for DO is actually lower than MD. Obviously not the same candidate pool and some overlap, but it definitely isnt close to 60%.
Pre-pre physical therapy clubLol, out of my undergrad's massive premed club, I was one of the only ones to make it, because their advising was **** and their premedical committee made it seem like you had to bow down to them and prove yourself worthy to get a letter.
And yeah! The director of my pre-professional dept. insisted that you had to take an entire year to study for the MCAT. He's so staunch in support of this notion that I avoided telling him I only studied for 3 months and got a 510. The impression I got is that if a premed doesn't follow their instructions to a T about literally everything, they aren't interested in writing them a letter.Lol, out of my undergrad's massive premed club, I was one of the only ones to make it, because their advising was **** and their premedical committee made it seem like you had to bow down to them and prove yourself worthy to get a letter.
Here are my numbers from my school (an Ivy)
Approximately 33% of our class comes in as premed. This number is an estimate but I think it's an accurate guess, as most people come in as what I like to call "pre-Goldmann" or "pre-Bain". I would say the confidence range here is 25-40%.
I know for a fact that consistently ~18% of our class gets to the application stage at some point in their lives, so we have around a 45% attrition rate, meaning just over half of our freshman premeds end up applying. Of those 18%, 80% are accepted (confidence range 75-90%), so ~14-15% of our class goes on to medical school.
This means that ~40% of our freshman premeds end up attending medical school.
So I think there is a big disparity between top tier Ivy League students and the average State U Joe. There are certainly a lot more people in over their head at your average large public state university.