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SHC1984 said:
It depends on who Scarlett was dating. She only loved Ashley and wanted desperately to date him, so if she was on a date with him then I am sure she will go dutch OR pay for the entire tab.

However, if Scarlett was dating any other guy, she would most likely expect the guy to pay for everything.

Who pays for the date depends on who is the one thats more desperate for the relationship to work out.
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Sigh.

:bang:
 
FarscapeGirl said:
I wasn't trying to show that I am any better than you. My last paragraph was a bit snarky; after a long day, I can get annoyed and frustrated on the internet just like anyone else. And I do apologize for getting you and SHC1984 mixed up; after 8 pages, not to count the other pregnancy thread, it's hard to keep the two of you straight with who said what (and after SHC changed her avatar, it got even more confusing). That's why I just said the same thing to the both of you.

With my post, I was trying to somewhat politely but firmly show that some of the things both of you have been saying can be taken wrong by people and can make them feel insulted. This is the internet, but when so many of us are on it continuously, it's also a community. And I know we still stereotype people, but if each one of us works against our stereotypes, we can start to move beyond them. In fact, I think it's the ways we don't fit into our stereotypical roles that make us interesting and fun people.

I'm glad after all this we both can see each other's view points about whether the guy should pay for dates. We both agree it's sometimes about culture/how one was raised (I did have one bf and one guy friend who always insisted on paying for everything, and I had to be a bit creative to try and pay before they noticed!). It can also be about who has more money (I will say the guy's a jerk if he does make significantly more money than his girlfriend and insists on splitting everything exactly half, especially if he wants to do things that are out of her price range). As long as the two people dating agree on whatever system works for them, it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
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This thread had me thinking about my past relationships. Most relationships aren't like the Notebook unfortunately, in most relationships one person usually like/care about the relationship MORE than the other. It has nothing to do with looks, its just that there are times when you like the guy more and want the relationship more badly and there are times when the guy likes you more and want the relationship more badly. Yes, its possible to be like the couple on the Notebook so please don't flame me b/c I didn't say its impossible, but its not likely is my point.

The reason why I almost never pay for any dates is b/c I am happy single or in a relationship. I would almost never go out of my way to get a guy to be my serious boyfriend. If he prefers to go out with other people or if he has other things to do I don't go stalking him and demand that he is with ME and only me. I have a life of my own, I am always busy, and don't ever cancel any plans to hope to get a boyfriend. If a guy asks me out and then wanted me to pay, I would pay...I am not the type to nag or demand someone buy me anything. But that guy that made me pay should NOT expect that I ever go out of my way to make plans with him. With all that said I think most of the guys that I have dated wanted the relationship a lot MORE than me. I would be happy with a relationship or without one, but they wanted the relationship to work out more than I wanted too so they pay for dates and was more likely to go out of their way to impress me. I think thats the main reason right here. Its not that some people are uglier and have to pay for dates, it has nothing to do with being Asian or White. The only thing that dicates who pays for the date, who goes out of the way for the other person, etc. etc. etc. is dependent on who wants the relationship more? who likes the other person more? In the perfect world the guy and the girl will BOTH LOVE EACH OTHER EQUALLY, but the world is not perfect.

I think the only time I have ever wanted the relationship more than the other person was when I was 15. There was a guy that I really realllllly liked. And I went out of my way sometimes just to hangout with him. He asked me out one time and paid for our date, but the 2nd time I CALL HIM and asked him out (THE ONLY TIME IN MY LIFE I HAVE EVER ASKED A GUY OUT!!!😱)and I did pay the second time. I also bought him a birthday present on his birthday (and he wasn't my offical boyfriend either🙁) so I know how that feels too. I liked him a lot more than he like me and it shows. I am sure he thought I was desperate too, but OH well we all can learn from our past. :laugh:
 
FarscapeGirl said:
Sigh.

:bang:
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HAHAHA :laugh: I know exactly why this frustrates you, but you gotta think about where she's coming from! I don't think what she's saying negates the fact that two people can go on dates and have mutual respect for each others' wallets. I think what she says is true in most relationships, that feelings can be lopsided. For example, in high school, I had a guy friend who considered me his "dream girl" and he asked me out to prom and I expected him to pay for everything. But due to complicated circumstances, I went with my other friend who was my joking buddy and we obviously split the bill. I think what SHC has to say has a point.... but that may be because I'm an opportunist. 🙂
 
Kirbypuff said:
HAHAHA :laugh: I know exactly why this frustrates you, but you gotta think about where she's coming from! I don't think what she's saying negates the fact that two people can go on dates and have mutual respect for each others' wallets. I think what she says is true in most relationships, that feelings can be lopsided. For example, in high school, I had a guy friend who considered me his "dream girl" and he asked me out to prom and I expected him to pay for everything. But due to complicated circumstances, I went with my other friend who was my joking buddy and we obviously split the bill. I think what SHC has to say has a point.... but that may be because I'm an opportunist. 🙂
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I think what I said about relationships being lopsided is 100% true however it is very offensive. Most things I say is offensive b/c its true but most people want to believe its NOT true. 🙄 Just like 50% of marriages end in divorce (thats why its good to have YOUR money on the side, in case your husband decides he wants another woman and kicks you to the curb...again It COULD happen and if you don't have any money in YOUR name, then have fun living on the streets!), 60% of men have cheated on their wives, the world is unfair, attractive people gets treated better than ugly people, etc etc. Its ALL TRUE, but watch people come on here and get mad at me b/c I stated these true facts. :laugh:
 
SHC1984 said:
This thread had me thinking about my past relationships. Most relationships aren't like the Notebook unfortunately, in most relationships one person usually like/care about the relationship MORE than the other. It has nothing to do with looks, its just that there are times when you like the guy more and want the relationship more badly and there are times when the guy likes you more and want the relationship more badly. Yes, its possible to be like the couple on the Notebook so please don't flame me b/c I didn't say its impossible, but its not likely is my point.

The reason why I almost never pay for any dates is b/c I am happy single or in a relationship. I would almost never go out of my way to get a guy to be my serious boyfriend. If he prefers to go out with other people or if he has other things to do I don't go stalking him and demand that he is with ME and only me. I have a life of my own, I am always busy, and don't ever cancel any plans to hope to get a boyfriend. If a guy asks me out and then wanted me to pay, I would pay...I am not the type to nag or demand someone buy me anything. But that guy that made me pay should NOT expect that I ever go out of my way to make plans with him. With all that said I think most of the guys that I have dated wanted the relationship a lot MORE than me. I would be happy with a relationship or without one, but they wanted the relationship to work out more than I wanted too so they pay for dates and was more likely to go out of their way to impress me. I think thats the main reason right here. Its not that some people are uglier and have to pay for dates, it has nothing to do with being Asian or White. The only thing that dicates who pays for the date, who goes out of the way for the other person, etc. etc. etc. is dependent on who wants the relationship more? who likes the other person more? In the perfect world the guy and the girl will BOTH LOVE EACH OTHER EQUALLY, but the world is not perfect.

I think the only time I have ever wanted the relationship more than the other person was when I was 15. There was a guy that I really realllllly liked. And I went out of my way sometimes just to hangout with him. He asked me out one time and paid for our date, but the 2nd time I CALL HIM and asked him out (THE ONLY TIME IN MY LIFE I HAVE EVER ASKED A GUY OUT!!!😱)and I did pay the second time. I also bought him a birthday present on his birthday (and he wasn't my offical boyfriend either🙁) so I know how that feels too. I liked him a lot more than he like me and it shows. I am sure he thought I was desperate too, but OH well we all can learn from our past. :laugh:
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👍
 
Kirbypuff said:
What do you guys think about a guy carry a girl's heavy luggage for her?
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I say, the only way that broad is going to learn not to pack so damn much is to be forced to carry it herself once or twice.....
 
IrishHammer said:
I've seen the movies, I just don't understand how it applied.

Spike a volleyball? That seems so very mean, unless your aim is to see her Kirby impression.
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HAHA I actually do have an angry kirby impression hahaha that's why my bf calls me kirby =)

You were in the circle of trust because you said whatever that made me happy and i kicked you out bc you said stuff i didnt get lol
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Of course. Men are more suited to carrying heavy things. Now if there was a situation where an irrational hypocrite was needed, a women would obviously handle that rather than the man.
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What at first glance seems a complicated matter usually becomes trivially simple upon further examination. You may just need to approach it from an irrational and hypocritical angle. The path is now illuminated, thanks.
 
Priapism321 said:
I say, the only way that broad is going to learn not to pack so damn much is to be forced to carry it herself once or twice.....
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A Polish, migrant farmer guy helped me carry almost all of my heavy, summer luggage to another stand across a German train station whenever the trains had changed on us last-minute. So for helping me, I tipped him a US $5, and he was very pleased. 👍

You can't stop a woman from packing what she needs... but she can surely leave a tip. 😉
 
I just came across this

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on Google images. It's really funny and coincidental considering everything is this thread! 😛
 
Farmercyst said:
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Ok, ok.

So one of the girls in this thread talks about how she loves purses and even resells them for a profit down the line.

AND... the pickiness of what Mr. Right has to be, within this thread, as compared to all the others guys out there

reminds me of this ad.

Basically, faking it until you find Mr. Right is ok, but it's not ok to have a fake handbag.


I'm just drawing connections, not saying that it is this way or isn't.

My brain works in mysterious ways... Sorry! 😛
 
First you need to nab yourself a stay-home husband that will take care of the kids, cook, clean and wash dishes. Then you have a child and leave it to him and continue with your education.
 
So I was reading through this thread, and I just HAD to say something. What's up with all of these men who don't want to behave like men? I think it's interesting that the only proponents of chivalrous behavior (i.e paying for a gf's dinner) are women from the east, or with eastern backgrounds. My bf and I have been dating for almost 7 years and he still insists on always paying for me when we go out.
I have always thought that a woman should behave like a woman, and a man should behave like a man.
 
StaviZFingerZ said:
You mean stay home barefoot...pregnant, cook, clean, laundry, and serve her man?
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yes, she should have babies if they are inclined to do so. yes, she should have meals for them to eat. yes, she should clean the house so they don't live in a mess. no need for her to stay home bare foot with no education, this isn't saudia arabia.
her husband should also help, all of the men in my family and my bfs family can and do cook and they help out around the house. but they also open the doors for their wives and pay for their dinners out.
it doesn't have to be so black and white. when men and woman get married/date/whatever they do they act as a team made up of two people. each member of the team has specific "positions" or things they are good at, but they both act together for a common goal --i.e-- their life together.
goodness, you people like to go to the extremes!!
 
alenadoma said:
yes, she should have babies if they are inclined to do so. yes, she should have meals for them to eat. yes, she should clean the house so they don't live in a mess. no need for her to stay home bare foot with no education, this isn't saudia arabia.
her husband should also help, all of the men in my family and my bfs family can and do cook and they help out around the house. but they also open the doors for their wives and pay for their dinners out.
it doesn't have to be so black and white. when men and woman get married/date/whatever they do they act as a team made up of two people. each member of the team has specific "positions" or things they are good at, but they both act together for a common goal --i.e-- their life together.
goodness, you people like to go to the extremes!!
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You people? What do you mean "You People?" What extremes?
 
StaviZFingerZ said:
You people? What do you mean "You People?" What extremes?
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lol you! why is it that if I say a woman should behave like a woman it automatically means that she has to behave as if she's living in a place where she can't educate herself, work, etc.
 
alenadoma said:
yes, she should have babies if they are inclined to do so. yes, she should have meals for them to eat. yes, she should clean the house so they don't live in a mess.
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Oh yeah!!! That's right...women should do all that!!!

no need for her to stay home bare foot with no education, this isn't saudia arabia.
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I have no clue what they do over there... never been. Nor care.

her husband should also help,
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his wife should also help too then...like mowing the lawn..dig ditches...lay sprinklers..change the oil and rotate tires... because it's the common goal of the family.

all of the men in my family and my bfs family can and do cook and they help out around the house.
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Good for your family...but there are gazillion single moms out there with no such a luxury.
 
alenadoma said:
lol you! why is it that if I say a woman should behave like a woman it automatically means that she has to behave as if she's living in a place where she can't educate herself, work, etc.
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General statement like that only deserves a general mockery reply.

Say hello to "You People - me"
 
alenadoma said:
her husband should also help, all of the men in my family and my bfs family can and do cook and they help out around the house.
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So, men can do it all is what you are saying. What exactly is it that the woman is bringing to the table? That is my question.
 
Priapism321 said:
So, men can do it all is what you are saying. What exactly is it that the woman is bringing to the table? That is my question.
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yes, the men that surround me can pretty much do anything except give birth.
What is the woman bringing to the table? a uterus...
 
alenadoma said:
yes, the men that surround me can pretty much do anything except give birth.
What is the woman bringing to the table? a uterus...
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Actually, that is the last thing I need....
 
Priapism321 said:
So, men can do it all is what you are saying. What exactly is it that the woman is bringing to the table? That is my question.
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Basically Women should behave like a woman yet men should behave like both man and woman...

I say that's a siginificant famale chauvinistic piglet statement.
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
I'm so lost in this thread.

What is a speedy? And where is Saudia Arabia?
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A speedy is apparently some kind of handbag...I don't know much about it, but from what I could gather in this post, they're incredibly expensive and they make their owner incredibly fashionable...and incredibly quick. I dunno, if I knew about fashion I wouldn't be wearing cargo shorts with a Hawaiian shirt right now.

alenadoma said:
What's up with all of these men who don't want to behave like men? I think it's interesting that the only proponents of chivalrous behavior (i.e paying for a gf's dinner) are women from the east, or with eastern backgrounds.
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Either "the east" also includes the east coast, or you happened to skim over my posts. I'm willing to pay for a date, but if the girl wants to pay for herself, I'd just as soon let her (seems like a more chivalrous thing to do than argue with her about it, y'know?). The money should be secondary; having a good time and enjoying each other's company is the important part. Besides, isn't that the ultimate goal of chivalry anyway? Make the girl feel special?
 
Alright, time to chose. All women in this thread, pick one: Access to male chivalry or equality to men vis-a-vis careers.

You only get one. Choose.
 
Damn, how have I managed to overlook this thread for so long?

Regarding paying for dinner, I feel like it's the sort of thing the guy should 'offer' to do, and that the girl should usually 'refuse' (like how when you have guests visiting your home, you're supposed to offer them something to eat/drink, even though they will probably refuse - it's the 'polite' thing to do). So outside of special occasions, in an equitable relationship each should pay for their own, or there should be some sort of a rotation where one person pays, then the other, etc.

But what do I know, I haven't dated anyone in 10 years so :lame:

And $60-80/wk for dates? That's about what I make a week.
 
Ladies and Gents, we shouldn't make this matter black and white. As some who've posted in this thread realize, there are infinite shades of the most dreary gray you could fathom.

Men should act like men, and also do everything that women do, except have a uterus. It's 50:50, don't you see? We're talking about a partnership, men and women living together in Utopian bliss. Double standards do not apply in Utopia. And I will argue that relationships are like the Notebook, but you must set your standards as high as the heavens, which you most certainly deserve. Don't short change yourself, this is your life, and it's made for you.
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Alright, time to chose. All women in this thread, pick one: Access to male chivalry or equality to men vis-a-vis careers.

You only get one. Choose.
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Which choice entitles them to a sweet hat at which to point?
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Equality. Duh. Otherwise, they are not a man's equal and, thus, do not deserve a cool hat to point at.
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But if they chose out-and-out chivalry, wouldn't you then have to offer them your pointin' hat? Being the chivalrous gentleman you...nevermind.
 
alenadoma said:
yes, she should have babies if they are inclined to do so. yes, she should have meals for them to eat. yes, she should clean the house so they don't live in a mess. no need for her to stay home bare foot with no education, this isn't saudia arabia.
her husband should also help, all of the men in my family and my bfs family can and do cook and they help out around the house. but they also open the doors for their wives and pay for their dinners out.
it doesn't have to be so black and white. when men and woman get married/date/whatever they do they act as a team made up of two people. each member of the team has specific "positions" or things they are good at, but they both act together for a common goal --i.e-- their life together.
goodness, you people like to go to the extremes!!
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I agree with EVERYTHING that you just said. However if a guy doesn't cook, wash dishes or do laundry it would not piss me off b/c I think those things are very easy to do and if a guy is working and paying all the bills...than I will not mind doing those easy chores.

The one thing I agree with you MOST on is that a man should act like a man and a woman should act like a woman! Very well said! 👍👍👍👍👍
 
 
SHC1984 said:
OMG you never heard of a speedy???? A speedy is a style of Louis Vuitton handbags made kinda like a Keepall, but smaller.
Here are a few examples:


http://cgi.ebay.com/Auth-LOUIS-VUIT...ptZUSQ5fCSAQ5fWHQ5fHandbagsQQsalenotsupported


http://cgi.ebay.com/LOUIS-VUITTON-S...ptZUSQ5fCSAQ5fWHQ5fHandbagsQQsalenotsupported

http://cgi.ebay.com/Louis-Vuitton-M...ptZUSQ5fCSAQ5fWHQ5fHandbagsQQsalenotsupported

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Louis-Vuitt...ptZUSQ5fCSAQ5fWHQ5fHandbagsQQsalenotsupported


The Silver one is the only one I don't have. :cry:
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And I dont know what a Keepall is either.

Jeez...that's quite a few months of rent right there...
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Jeez...that's quite a few months of rent right there...
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No, these bags are investments. I've spent my whole life seeking a physical product that represents my inner psyche. I hope she's grateful that she can invest in these bags. It sure beats the stock market! 🙂 🙂 🙂 😛 😛:d
 
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