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What's in a name?

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by Barton, Mar 31, 2002.

  1. Barton

    Barton Senior Member
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    WARNING: THIS POST IS LONG!
    After having spent some time reading through the posts, I had become aware that many folks out there place an inordinate amount of emphasis on a school's reputation or ranking when applying to med schools. Granted, this often applies to sophomore pre-med gunners who don't know a heck of a lot about actual med school, but others have exhibited such a pre-occupation as well. The number one argument for such a position is that if one wants to match in a competitive specialty (i.e. derm, ophtho, rads, etc.) s/he must attend a "highly ranked" institution (to most, this refers to the US News rankings). I recently ran across a website that shows (preliminarily) the 2003 derm match results. 90 med schools are represented in the 211 posted matches, including 3 outside the US <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> . A good portion of these (42 to be exact) come from the "top 10" schools (Harvard, JHU, Duke, Penn, WashU, Columbia, UCSF, Yale, Stanford, Michigan), but a far greater number come from other, less "renowned" places :D . Here are the represented schools:

    Merharry
    LSU
    UTSW
    UTSA
    Baylor
    Arkansas
    SUNY Syracuse
    South Alabama
    NYU
    George Washington
    UCLA
    Washingtoon
    UMDNJ
    Colorado
    Einstein
    UCI
    Pritzker
    Cornell
    UCSD
    UTMB
    UIC
    Tufts
    USC
    Kansas
    Jefferson
    Georgetown
    Howard
    Oklahoma
    West Virginia
    South Florida
    Ponce
    MCP
    Emory
    Alabama
    Loyola
    SUNY Brooklyn
    Northwestern
    Missouri
    Indiana
    Tennessee
    Some school in Iceland
    Arizona
    NE Ohio
    LSU Shreveport
    Tulane
    Rochester
    McGill (Canada)
    Some school in Austrailia
    Medical College of Wisconsin
    Albany
    Wayne St.
    Boston University
    Michigan State
    Minnesota
    South Dakota
    Missouri-Kansas City
    UT Houston
    NYMC
    Siani
    SUNY Stony Brook
    North Carolina
    Wake Forest
    Nebraska
    Temple
    Case Western
    SUNY Buffalo
    Ohio State
    OHSU
    Louisville
    Penn State
    Pitt
    Virginia
    Medical College of Ohio
    Medical University of South Carolina
    Vanderbilt
    Texas A&M
    New Mexico
    Medical College of Virginia
    Nevada
    Florida

    Here's the url:
    <a href="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/longk/DermMatch2002.htm" target="_blank">http://mywebpages.comcast.net/longk/DermMatch2002.htm</a>

    The moral: you don't have to pick a school based on rankings, even if you want to match derm (or anything, for that matter).
     
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  3. THE instiGATOR

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    Unless you have awesome stats, you probably won't get to pick the med school. The med school will pick you. You'll have your say when choosing schools to apply to, but other than that....good luck! The chips will fall where they will.

    I don't see my future school in that list. :( Oh well, I don't want to enter a derm residency anyway! :D
     
  4. THE instiGATOR

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    Wait! It's there! <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" />

    <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
  5. chef

    chef Senior Member
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    hey, that site is great! Are there sites like that for other residencies??

    Also, what is Michigan-C?

    (Research at X): What does this mean? Doing research after graduating from med school? Is there a formal program?
     
  6. chef

    chef Senior Member
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    hey, that site is great! Are there sites like that for other residencies??

    Also, what is Michigan-C?

    (Research at X): What does this mean? Doing research after graduating from med school? Is there a formal program?

    finally, some are listed as "Non-match". what does that mean?
     
  7. ramkijai

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    A great post, Barton! Who would have thunk that much maligned MCP Hahnmeman (!) would place 6 into Derm or LSU (!!) would place 5, numbers that paralell the 7 matched by Baylor? <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
     
  8. metsn02

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    Barton,

    Thank you. FINALLY, someone with some sense on this message board. All this talk of rankings and prestige is laughable when placed in the light of true evidence that Barton has provided for us. I am surprised many of you who talk about not attending this school or that because its unranked or doesn't have a good reputation, have ever really talked to physicians in the field. Four years from now, you will understand that hard work and dedication beats rank and prestige. Barton your a pimp. peace
     
  9. medicine2006

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    To OP;

    What makes you think UCLA med is a "less renonwned" med school. It is #14 in research (us news) it is ranked in almost every category imaginable and its hospital is #5 is US and #1 in the west and is world renowned!
     
  10. Barton

    Barton Senior Member
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    the point of the post is that rankings are bull****. I used the term "less renowned" (in quotes, no less) to refer to any school not currently ranked in the top ten by us news. The quotes were meant to imply a sense of sarcasm. I'm not dissing any school. the point is that students from all schools can get into any field they want; their school's name won't preclude that. Sorry to offend.
     
  11. oldman

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    that's right Barton.

    in the end go to the school where you will be happy.

    on that note, hope to see you at the U. :)
     
  12. CANES2006

    CANES2006 Miami chica
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    Medicine2006,
    Dude, chill. Barton meant no harm. UCLA is a great school, and no one is disputing that. Hey, Barton, I totally agree with you. Ranks are bull. What matters is the school that you are most comfortable being in. Remember, we are going to be spending FOUR LONG YEARS (just thinking about that makes my head spin) in medical school. You should at least like it there. If only my other pre-med counterparts can see that. Alas, c'est la vie. :rolleyes:
     

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