What's the general consensus when you see a 3.7 GPA?

[lukeevans]

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[mwsapphire]

In terms of what though? Upward trend, downward, trend , is that the BCPM or the overall? I'd say a consistant 3.7 is average, but a 3.7 with an UW trend, like
3.5,3.8,3.9 is very different.
Strong performance in upper level science is wicked important.
Freshman year is a poor indication of med school performance, sophomore year is better, and junior year is the best indicator. ( Say you're applying at the traditional time).
I'd say all else being competitive ( Solid EC's, MCAT score ), you can apply to a few T20's if you have a 3.7 with a steep upward climb, but n=1 and I'm not an admissions committee member.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

A 3.7 won't be what keeps you out of any school in the country.

 

[Lucca]

"What a pleb".


JK

I have no impression of it. I don't value people based on their gpa. In terms of med admission, I would say their chances are good with a 508+ MCAT score and a good school list.

 

[lukeevans]

In terms of what though? Upward trend, downward, trend , is that the BCPM or the overall? I'd say a consistant 3.7 is average, but a 3.7 with an UW trend, like
3.5,3.8,3.9 is very different.
Strong performance in upper level science is wicked important.
Freshman year is a poor indication of med school performance, sophomore year is better, and junior year is the best indicator. ( Say you're applying at the traditional time).
I'd say all else being competitive ( Solid EC's, MCAT score ), you can apply to a few T20's if you have a 3.7 with a steep upward climb, but n=1 and I'm not an admissions committee member.

I have a 3.73 overall. Science GPA is 3.63 due to 5 B's and 1 C in freshman year

Freshman year: 3.4
Sophomore year: 4.0
Junior year: 3.65
Senior year: 3.9

 

[MusicDOc124]

...that [insert person] has a 3.7 GPA.

 

[Gilakend]

A 3.7 won't be what keeps you out of any school in the country.

Agree. Don't have any experience, but I've seen WAMC threads where people with a 3.7 are recommended to apply to multiple top 20s. Conversely there are people with a 3.7 that are told to apply to state and mid-lower tier schools. It won't keep you out of anywhere but it's not getting you in anywhere either with that alone. So much more to a complete app.


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[mwsapphire]

What he and everyone else said...;. Applicants focus way, way more on individual GPA numbers and do not understand at all how an adcom evaluates your academic metrics

Wait...so do I understand how academic metrics are evaluated or not? ( Why was my post quotes instead of OP's)?
😕

 

[aalamruad]

My comment to you was "What he said" as in agreeing with you then I commented in applicants in general. Its called context. you may come across this in CARS.

mwsapphire isn't a "he." Don't be sassy when you're the one at fault for causing the confusion.

 

[AnonPanda1]

I think good enough.

 

[mwsapphire]

mwsapphire isn't a "he." Don't be sassy when you're the one at fault for causing the confusion.

Thanks for the save lol.
Gonnif, I don't think my signature could be any more clear, as well as my avatar and username.
Now *that's* context.
*snippity snippity snap*

 

[partypantss]

In terms of what though? Upward trend, downward, trend , is that the BCPM or the overall? I'd say a consistant 3.7 is average, but a 3.7 with an UW trend, like
3.5,3.8,3.9 is very different.
Strong performance in upper level science is wicked important.
Freshman year is a poor indication of med school performance, sophomore year is better, and junior year is the best indicator. ( Say you're applying at the traditional time).
I'd say all else being competitive ( Solid EC's, MCAT score ), you can apply to a few T20's if you have a 3.7 with a steep upward climb, but n=1 and I'm not an admissions committee member.

You can't say at all whether or not someone can apply to any T20 school just based on GPA... A 3.7 applicant could be very competitive for T20 schools because of everything else, or a a 3.7 applicant could have zero chance at a T20 school.. I had over a 3.7 GPA with very strong (3.9+) performance my final 5 semesters plus a 516 MCAT and I did not have a realistic shot at T20s... It wasn't because of the GPA though!

 

[mwsapphire]

You can't say at all whether or not someone can apply to any T20 school just based on GPA... A 3.7 applicant could be very competitive for T20 schools because of everything else, or a a 3.7 applicant could have zero chance at a T20 school.. I had over a 3.7 GPA with very strong (3.9+) performance my final 5 semesters plus a 516 MCAT and I did not have a realistic shot at T20s... It wasn't because of the GPA though!

Cookie cutter EC's?

 

[redsox93]

 

[Saifa]

Thanks for the save lol.
Gonnif, I don't think my signature could be any more clear, as well as my avatar and username.
Now *that's* context.
*snippity snippity snap*

Your signature could actually be far more clear. I have to highlight it just to read it.

 

[partypantss]

Cookie cutter EC's?

Not particularly, I was president of my fraternity, first author on a research paper, worked as a phlebotomist and a tutor and other odd jobs. Shadowed a few different docs. Volunteered at a hospice for a couple years and ran some philanthropys. Honestly it's partially because those numbers aren't nearly as impressive since I'm a white male from the burbs that grew up with two health professional parents. The reality is a 3.7/ 516 from me vs a 3.7/ 516 from a disadvantaged minority that had to fight for everything they got are two completely different things in the eyes of ADCOMS.

I probably should have volunteered more too!

 

[mwsapphire]

Your signature could actually be far more clear. I have to highlight it just to read it.
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Maybe lay off the LSD...
Or turn off that night vision thing on the iPhone.

 

[softball2344]

Not particularly, I was president of my fraternity, first author on a research paper, worked as a phlebotomist and a tutor and other odd jobs. Shadowed a few different docs. Volunteered at a hospice for a couple years and ran some philanthropys. Honestly it's partially because those numbers aren't nearly as impressive since I'm a white male from the burbs that grew up with two health professional parents. The reality is a 3.7/ 516 from me vs a 3.7/ 516 from a disadvantaged minority that had to fight for everything they got are two completely different things in the eyes of ADCOMS.

I probably should have volunteered more too!

Don't sell yourself short, your stats are still impressive! Just think of where many of your high school classmates ended up - upbringing isn't everything.

 

[partypantss]

Don't sell yourself short, your stats are still impressive! Just think of where many of your high school classmates ended up - upbringing isn't everything.

Oh yeah I'm not upset or anything at all, I had a lot of success this cycle and am likely going to get to choose between MD schools which is fantastic! I've been extremely happy these past months ever since my acceptance. I'm just explaining how the FULL picture matters, and why I wasn't a "top 20 applicant." Even looking at just ECs/ GPA/ MCAT isn't always quite enough. It is not a simple process.

 

[Goro]

A 3.7 GPA is median for MD acceptees.

 

[Geo16]

"Thats my gpa!"

 

[Astra]

3.7 - Better go Carrib

3.8 - Better go DO

3.9 - Better go low/mid tier MD

4.0 - better go Top 20 MD

 

[mwsapphire]

"What He Said" as in the common slang Urban Dictionary: what he said
Sassy for unable to understand context

Yeah but when the OP is a male and the person you quoted is female, it's a case where using the correct pronoun is beneficial.
So you don't understand context.
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[WedgeDawg]

let's keep on topic please

 

[Lollygag]

Not particularly, I was president of my fraternity, first author on a research paper, worked as a phlebotomist and a tutor and other odd jobs. Shadowed a few different docs. Volunteered at a hospice for a couple years and ran some philanthropys. Honestly it's partially because those numbers aren't nearly as impressive since I'm a white male from the burbs that grew up with two health professional parents. The reality is a 3.7/ 516 from me vs a 3.7/ 516 from a disadvantaged minority that had to fight for everything they got are two completely different things in the eyes of ADCOMS.

I probably should have volunteered more too!

Not particularly, I was president of my fraternity, first author on a research paper, worked as a phlebotomist and a tutor and other odd jobs. Shadowed a few different docs. Volunteered at a hospice for a couple years and ran some philanthropys. Honestly it's partially because those numbers aren't nearly as impressive since I'm a white male from the burbs that grew up with two health professional parents. The reality is a 3.7/ 516 from me vs a 3.7/ 516 from a disadvantaged minority that had to fight for everything they got are two completely different things in the eyes of ADCOMS.

I probably should have volunteered more too!

I don't know if this is the neuroticism of SDN or if you're just a very humble person. But your GPA and MCAT are good enough for a T20 school, and sure maybe you wouldn't be getting into Havard but you have a first author research paper, something most pre-meds won't have, and the top 20s are research oriented schools which means you would fit their mission statement. If that doesn't make you competitive for a T20 I don't know what is lol You don't have to join the peace corps or cure cancer to be competitive for Mount Sinai or UPitt etc..

You applied though, and you're happy with your results so that's all that matters, congrats 🙂 I just don't want some other 3.7/516 1st author pub guy with good clinical experience strolling around the forums thinking he/she has 0 chance at a T20

 

[Geo16]

Seriously, I have like a weird concave up concave down because I'm a non-trad.
My 3.7 wouldn't look the same as someone with upward 3.7
I think it matters what the trend looks like.

 

[Gilakend]

I don't know if this is the neuroticism of SDN or if you're just a very humble person. But your GPA and MCAT are good enough for a T20 school, and sure maybe you wouldn't be getting into Havard but you have a first author research paper, something most pre-meds won't have, and the top 20s are research oriented schools which means you would fit their mission statement. If that doesn't make you competitive for a T20 I don't know what is lol You don't have to join the peace corps or cure cancer to be competitive for Mount Sinai or UPitt etc..

You applied though, and you're happy with your results so that's all that matters, congrats 🙂 I just don't want some other 3.7/516 1st author pub guy with good clinical experience strolling around the forums thinking he/she has 0 chance at a T20

I. Love. Meghan. Markle.

 

[aalamruad]

I. Love. Meghan. Markle.

😍

 

[mwsapphire]

"What He Said" as in the common slang Urban Dictionary: what he said
Sassy for unable to understand context

I'd generally be above sassing an old man but I had a feeling you wouldn't take it poorly
( Okay. Back to thread.)

 

[Lollygag]

I. Love. Meghan. Markle.

YASSSSSSSSS 😍😍😍

 

[Dagrimsta1]

Another 3.7? Better have something to supplement that rather average GPA...

 

[mwsapphire]

OP, any steep grade trends?

 

[lukeevans]

OP, any steep grade trends?

Went from a 3.4 freshman year (intro bio classes) to 4.0 soph year (orgo, biochem) to a 3.65 junior year (physics) to a 3.9 senior year (mostly doing MCAT studying research)

 

[motu]

3.7 is good man!! I applied with a 3.73. I was strong extra-curricularly. Accepted everywhere in Florida (in-state) now 🙂