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AlbertCPham said:
Hi everyone, I know it is kind of repetitive for this question, but does anyone having problem filling out Repeated Courses? I repeated couple courses and I followed AACOMAS direction to input those info, unfortunately, when I tried to enter a new better grade, I could not find the " Last Repeated" option. Would anyone please give me an advice how to go about this? I wanted to know your opinion first before I call AACOMAS. Thanks
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I'm not sure how to answer the question about having a DO in the family, it is kind of complicated:

I always thought my grandpa was a DO because I knew he attended a DO school in California in the 60's and he always did manipulation on me when I injured myself in sports. It turns out that there was some big MD vs DO incident in the 60's and something happened to his DO school and I think it closed. I'm really not sure, I never thought to ask. He recently passed away and my grandma's memory isn't good enough to rely on. Anyway, I think he ended up becoming an ND...but I really don't know. grrr I really don't know what to put. My grandpa is my main motivation for pursuing DO because I really am interested in OMM, but I don't want to "lie" by accident.

What do I do???

EDIT: I just found a bit about it on wikipedia

1962, California

In the 1960s in California, the American Medical Association (AMA), sensing increased competition from osteopathic medicine, spent nearly $8 million to end the practice of osteopathic medicine in the state. In 1962, Proposition 22, a statewide ballot initiative in California, eliminated the practice of osteopathic medicine in the state. The California Medical Association (CMA) issued M.D. degrees to all D.O.s in the state of California for a nominal fee. "By attending a short seminar and paying $65, a doctor of osteopathy (D.O.) could obtain an M.D. degree; 86 percent of the D.O.s in the state (out of a total of about 2000) chose to do so."[24] Immediately following, the AMA re-accredited the formerly-osteopathic University of California at Irvine College of Osteopathic Medicine as University of California, Irvine School of Medicine, an allopathic medical school. It also placed a ban on issuing physician licenses to D.O.s moving to California from other states.[citation needed] However, the decision proved to be controversial. In 1974, after protest and lobbying by influential and prominent D.O.s, the California Supreme Court ruled in Osteopathic Physicians and Surgeons of California v. California Medical Association, that licensing of D.O.s in that state must be resumed.
 
What are we supposed to discuss in the AACOMAS personal statement? Is it the same as the AMCAS personal statement or should we discuss why we want to become an osteopathic physician?
 
I did a search already for this, and I don't see any answers. What is the distinction between 'Grade' and 'AACOMAS Grade?' Also, I took an advanced placement biology class in high school for which I received college credit, and it is asking me to enter in the AACOMAS Grade. Do I enter the grade that I received in high school?
 
bach13 said:
I did a search already for this, and I don't see any answers. What is the distinction between 'Grade' and 'AACOMAS Grade?' Also, I took an advanced placement biology class in high school for which I received college credit, and it is asking me to enter in the AACOMAS Grade. Do I enter the grade that I received in high school?
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Duh, I just now noticed the Advanced Placement designation for the AACOMAS grade...should I just leave the 'Grade' field blank?
 
If it is due June 1st instead of May 1st I dont have to stay up all night doing this. Someone please let us know if its due June 1st.
 
FENDERGUITARMAN said:
If it is due June 1st instead of May 1st I dont have to stay up all night doing this. Someone please let us know if its due June 1st.
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its not DUE on June 1st.......its rolling admission. the very first possible day you can submit an application is June 1st..... right now you cant even submit an application, you can just work on it.

You can turn in the application anywhere between June 1st and XX. i dont even know the day final day b/c it is so far away it doenst raelly matter if you start working on it now.

no need to cram/rush....you have plenty of time.
 
Hey all,

I just got off the phone with AACOMAS and asked, whether or not we should send our transcripts now or wait till after June. He said their system is ready to accept them now, he even advised me to do it because after June 1st its going to get really busy.

Thought I would pass along the information.
 
4Health said:
What are we supposed to discuss in the AACOMAS personal statement? Is it the same as the AMCAS personal statement or should we discuss why we want to become an osteopathic physician?
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i plan on using pretty much the exact some PS but just shorter for AACOMAS. you will hear different things as far discussing why you want to be a DO. some peopel will say not to talk about it b/c you will be asked that in the secondaries or in the interview. i guess its up to you.
 
i got an email from my advisor saying that they have been accepting applications since MAY 1ST! they changed the application to make it more user friendly and "quietly" opened the application cycle.
 
I have entered coursework into aacomas and I have a 2.99 sci gpa. I have an orgo 2 retake and orgo 2 lab grades coming in a week. My question is if a school gets the app with a 2.99 sci gpa and they have a 3.0 cut off will i still get a shot or does it have to be 3.0 exactly without rounding?
 
LuvPink said:
i got an email from my advisor saying that they have been accepting applications since MAY 1ST! they changed the application to make it more user friendly and "quietly" opened the application cycle.
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for realz?? wooow. surprise the word didn't spread faster on here.... interesting.

oh well.... i doubt there is a a significant difference between applying early May and early June. both are ridiculously early.
 
OCHO said:
Hey all,

I just got off the phone with AACOMAS and asked, whether or not we should send our transcripts now or wait till after June. He said their system is ready to accept them now, he even advised me to do it because after June 1st its going to get really busy.

Thought I would pass along the information.
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Indeed the system is ready. 🙂 I just checked my app and it shows that one of my transcripts was received on the 5th. yay. (1 transcripts down, 4 more to go!)😎

Does anyone know how the transcript course verification thing works?
 
Just a comment to everyone worried about how the system is 'sorting' the semesters. By clicking on the column headers, you can decide how your classes are sorted. If you click on the 'term year', it will separate according to your class period. With this option, you can enter your grades with the semester and year you took the class and everything shows up 'normally'.
 
The best thing you can do is call the individual schools and ask. It'd be a real bummer if 1 or 2 points on a bio test or something is what lead to you being cut out, but such is life.
 
I took one summer class at a CC and for some reason after I entered it, the GPA is not factored in. It still says 0.00 even though its 3 credit hrs or an A. Anyone know why?
 
Cp22kjer said:
I took one summer class at a CC and for some reason after I entered it, the GPA is not factored in. It still says 0.00 even though its 3 credit hrs or an A. Anyone know why?
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All accredited school names have * after them.
 
I'm about to send my transcripts over to AACOMAS, can anyone please tell me if the transcript request form is needed by AACOMAS??
 
No they don't need the form, but it has to come directly from your school. They want an official, sealed transcript.

At UT, I just went online, and I'm pretty sure AACOMAS was one of the pre-selected destinations that I could choose for my transcript to be sent to. I'm pretty sure it was done electronically too.
 
I went ahead and called AACOMAS, right after my previous post, and

transcript request forms are not needed by AACOMAS (in case anyone else

was wondering).
 
Can we get verified (GPA, etc.) before MCAT scores are in? I'm scheduled for the June 13th MCAT and I'm wondering if I have to wait until July 13th to go through the verification process.
 
Revilla said:
Can we get verified (GPA, etc.) before MCAT scores are in? I'm scheduled for the June 13th MCAT and I'm wondering if I have to wait until July 13th to go through the verification process.
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Yes, you can submit your application now for verification. You do not have to wait until your MCAT score comes in.
 
prionsRbad said:
Yes, you can submit your application now for verification. You do not have to wait until your MCAT score comes in.
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I knew we could submit. I just didn't know if they'd verify now or let it sit until we had an MCAT score to go with it. I heard AMCAS won't start verifying grades and transcripts until you get your MCAT scores back.

Thanks, Prions!
 
Revilla said:
I knew we could submit. I just didn't know if they'd verify now or let it sit until we had an MCAT score to go with it. I heard AMCAS won't start verifying grades and transcripts until you get your MCAT scores back.

Thanks, Prions!
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Yes, they will verfiy your application and send it out to schools without an MCAT score. The schools will put you on hold until your MCAT score comes in. When it does come in, you will need to release your score to AACOMAS and they will then forward it to all of your schools.

Good Luck :luck:

Here's another thread from last year on the subject: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/sho...ghlight=submit+application+without+MCAT+score
 
You found it: your grandpa was a DO. Put a positive spin on it: you're PROUD of your DO grandpa and you learned a lot from him. This was a dark period of DO history and ultimately the California legislature saw that DOs were doctors in their own right (separate but equal?? 🙄 ). Make it clear: your grandpa is your main motivation for becoming a DO. Unfortunately he's no longer around for you to ask him about this, but I think an adcom would appreciate sincerity.


Doc Henry said:
I'm not sure how to answer the question about having a DO in the family, it is kind of complicated:

I always thought my grandpa was a DO because I knew he attended a DO school in California in the 60's and he always did manipulation on me when I injured myself in sports. It turns out that there was some big MD vs DO incident in the 60's and something happened to his DO school and I think it closed. I'm really not sure, I never thought to ask. He recently passed away and my grandma's memory isn't good enough to rely on. Anyway, I think he ended up becoming an ND...but I really don't know. grrr I really don't know what to put. My grandpa is my main motivation for pursuing DO because I really am interested in OMM, but I don't want to "lie" by accident.

What do I do???

EDIT: I just found a bit about it on wikipedia

1962, California

In the 1960s in California, the American Medical Association (AMA), sensing increased competition from osteopathic medicine, spent nearly $8 million to end the practice of osteopathic medicine in the state. In 1962, Proposition 22, a statewide ballot initiative in California, eliminated the practice of osteopathic medicine in the state. The California Medical Association (CMA) issued M.D. degrees to all D.O.s in the state of California for a nominal fee. "By attending a short seminar and paying $65, a doctor of osteopathy (D.O.) could obtain an M.D. degree; 86 percent of the D.O.s in the state (out of a total of about 2000) chose to do so."[24] Immediately following, the AMA re-accredited the formerly-osteopathic University of California at Irvine College of Osteopathic Medicine as University of California, Irvine School of Medicine, an allopathic medical school. It also placed a ban on issuing physician licenses to D.O.s moving to California from other states.[citation needed] However, the decision proved to be controversial. In 1974, after protest and lobbying by influential and prominent D.O.s, the California Supreme Court ruled in Osteopathic Physicians and Surgeons of California v. California Medical Association, that licensing of D.O.s in that state must be resumed.
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Does anyone know if Urban Ecology classifies as Ecology, which is a part of Biology? Does it depend mostly on the department that ran the course? So it is not biology if it wasn't in the biology department?
 
For the LORs, are they sent with the primary application or are they sent with the secondary application from each school?
 
primadonna22274 said:
You found it: your grandpa was a DO. Put a positive spin on it: you're PROUD of your DO grandpa and you learned a lot from him. This was a dark period of DO history and ultimately the California legislature saw that DOs were doctors in their own right (separate but equal?? 🙄 ). Make it clear: your grandpa is your main motivation for becoming a DO. Unfortunately he's no longer around for you to ask him about this, but I think an adcom would appreciate sincerity.
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And what about the fact that he never did get his DO? He ended up becoming an ND instead.
 
Doc Henry said:
And what about the fact that he never did get his DO? He ended up becoming an ND instead.
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Ahh, So you have an original Ninja Doctor (ND) in the family! That will look great on your application. You are set man. 👍
 
ryserr21 said:
if i am doing work or volunteer stuff this summer (but havent started it yet) can i put it down in my ECs or Work section? then in teh description explain I will be doing it this summer during and throughout the applciation process? if not, wher ewould i talk about these things??
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My premed advisor said that we can put it down and in the description say that you have been hired, or accepted, or approved, or whatever you want to call it; for volunteering, working, research etc, and that you have met with the people and discussed what will be going on. She said they are understanding of the fact that you can't use future dates, but that they really do want to know about stuff like that.

Wow, horrible wording and sentence structure, but I hope you get the point
 
The work history section says to list every meaningful employment, but I've had so many, starting way back in high school when I started passing medications in assisted living facilities. It continued into college but not with the same employer, but I don't want to list the 3 different places that I was a caregiver and/or medaide. Do you think I should list just one and kind of lump all the experiences in with that place, or do you think I should list them all?
 
Doc Henry said:
The work history section says to list every meaningful employment, but I've had so many, starting way back in high school when I started passing medications in assisted living facilities. It continued into college but not with the same employer, but I don't want to list the 3 different places that I was a caregiver and/or medaide. Do you think I should list just one and kind of lump all the experiences in with that place, or do you think I should list them all?
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Hmm...so you're saying the work you did in each was basically identical? In that case I'd list all of them in one "record" and put "Institution A / Institution B / Institution C" in the second field, and "medaide" in the "position" field. It would be similar if you were a volunteer in multiple units of a hospital.
 
dudee....i feel you man....2.95 sigh....i have two more classes to boost it. but i still have to take MCAT...
 
My 2.997 successfully rounded to 3.8 😀.

J/k, I'd check with your school-- Lab grades usually rock, I'm hoping that'll push you over 3.0...
 
Hi everyone, I am in desperate need to talk to an AACOMAS representative over the phone. Does anyone knows a direct line that I could call up? Thanks
 
well i know you can fill out your application now; but even if you can submit it before June 1, does that mean that they will start processing it immediately or will they wait unitl June 1 to actually start processing the application?
 
If we did research thta was unpublished do we put it in the extracurricular section. I am asking becuase it really wasnt extracurricular. It was for my senior design class but I ended up winning a couple of awards for it.
 
different scenario:

took 3 quarters of ochem with lab integrated (4 credits each)

what if i retake 2 quarters of ochem (3 credits each) at a different school without the lab. how would that count? 🙄
 
Isoprop said:
different scenario:

took 3 quarters of ochem with lab integrated (4 credits each)

what if i retake 2 quarters of ochem (3 credits each) at a different school without the lab. how would that count? 🙄
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I'd email AACOMAS on this one, not sure how they'd figure that one.
 
Fp02c said:
If we did research thta was unpublished do we put it in the extracurricular section. I am asking becuase it really wasnt extracurricular. It was for my senior design class but I ended up winning a couple of awards for it.
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Sure, go ahead and add it if you've got the room. You do not need to be published in order to list a research experience.

Good Luck :luck:
 
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