Can someone help me understand what are some "real world" uses for Thiopental (besides executions)?
I use STP exclusively for celebs who need help with sleep at night yet somehow cannot afford propofol. Usually peeps that are opening acts or used to be in 80's hair bands yet blew all their cash on Aqua Net.
Can someone help me understand what are some "real world" uses for Thiopental (besides executions)?
Actually for ECT the agent of choice is Methohexital because it does not suppress seizure activity as Thiopental does.Some suggest that it is better for ECTs as well. I can't quote any data on that one though.
The only place I've seen it used in 2 years in for stat GA c-sections. As I think about it, I'm not sure why this is (shame on me). I think the main issue is that Thiopental can be left out ready to administer far longer than propofol.
The one exception to the above is one idiosyncratic attending who refuses to use propofol.
We use stp for sedation when we put in our retrobulbar blocks.
This is more anecdotal from my attending I work with. His theory is that with thiopental patients move less than with propofol, also thiopental is less of a cardiac depressant than propofol. Given our patient population older than 65 whom may be more sensative to that cardiac depressant effects. What do you use?
Can someone help me understand what are some "real world" uses for Thiopental (besides executions)?
If propofol becomes a controlled drug I will probably switch to thiopental. That's about the only benefit propofol has.
we have an attending here who likes to use it all the time for the burns less reason. it is also super duper useful for the teaching point of letting the resident push the roc right after.... ;-)
we have an attending here who likes to use it all the time for the burns less reason. it is also super duper useful for the teaching point of letting the resident push the roc right after.... ;-)
I use it for the occasional IV induction of a kid who already has an IV, simply because it stings less.
Let's say it again: 21st century anesthesia
What's your point? That propofol hurts, and that mixing it with lidocaine sometimes makes it hurt less? Something about measuring kallikrein as a surrogate end point for pain?
I've never seen a kid scream from thiopental going into a vein. I have seen that effect from propofol, with or without additives or the pseudo-bier-block lido pretreatment. The mechanism, while interesting, really isn't relevant - thiopental is a perfectly safe and acceptable drug for IV inductions, and in my experience, has worthwhile advantages over propofol in certain situations.
Ahhh, just push it anyway. Most of mine don't even notice anymore.
STP IS a controlled drug in many institutions and as such is less convenient.