Where all ma late applicants at!?!?!

[nabilesmail]

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Oh hey everyone,
I thought I posted in here ages ago but I guess not. I submitted late September... I've received 4 interviews so far and a couple of rejections (and possibly a couple silent ones too). Extremely low gpa and average MCAT. I've been told I have great writing skills so hopefully that's been in my favor too.

Let's all hang in there! 😀

Congratulations! They were also at good schools too!

 

[nabilesmail]

Man it seriously hurts to think that there is a good chance I'll be reapplying this June!

 

[nabilesmail]

I know but I don't think I got an acceptance off the first one so waitlist/rejection there (they accept within 2 weeks)- though there is a TON of waitlist movement at this school

and the new one gives me like a 25-30% chance of an acceptance post-interview. I also have a super later interview so that number maybe lowered.

 

[SOMBound13]

Well I have a 3.74/34 and have like 12 rejections so I think silence is better than rejection

Looking over your profile, it seems (to me) that if you had applied earlier and to more schools that take OOS students and more Midwest mid-level privates, your results would be better.

JMO

 

[nabilesmail]

Looking over your profile, it seems (to me) that if you had applied earlier and to more schools that take OOS students and more Midwest mid-level privates, your results would be better.

JMO

I figured 10 mid tier and 10 low tier schools would have been good enough with a chance at 1 out of 10 top tiers that I applied to.

Yeah I know a late application really hurt me, but it depresses me to know that I'll have to wait another year. I'm an incredibly goal oriented person and super focused when it comes to achieving something. In order to transfer out of community college in 2 years I took classes at 3 institutions at a time because I didn't want to wait 3 years (budget cuts make getting classes really hard!). I also spent all my time getting all the necessities in so I could apply for the 2012/2013 yr. I know I'll eventually get in, I just want to learn medicine already! I'm craving to be in medical school and another year makes it hurt that much more!

 

[SOMBound13]

I figured 10 mid tier and 10 low tier schools would have been good enough with a chance at 1 out of 10 top tiers that I applied to.

Yeah I know a late application really hurt me, but it depresses me to know that I'll have to wait another year. I'm an incredibly goal oriented person and super focused when it comes to achieving something. In order to transfer out of community college in 2 years I took classes at 3 institutions at a time because I didn't want to wait 3 years (budget cuts make getting classes really hard!). I also spent all my time getting all the necessities in so I could apply for the 2012/2013 yr. I know I'll eventually get in, I just want to learn medicine already! I'm craving to be in medical school and another year makes it hurt that much more!

Just choosing any ole 10 mid tiers and any ole 10 low tier med schools is not a good strategy (not saying you did that, just saying).. Some of those schools don't take OOS students unless they have some kind of tie to the state.

How did you pick which lower tier schools to apply to?

If you end up applying again, apply early, and apply to some lower tier public schools that are willing to take OOS students (without ties, without MD/PhD) because they want your high MCAT. Schools like UCF, USA, and Louisville. Also, more mid tier Midwest privates....MCW, Creighton, Loyola, SLU, etc. And it helps if you have ECs that are primary care related for these kinds of schools.

 

[nabilesmail]

I don't think I chose any schools that have a big IS preference. All the schools I chose were based upon numbers/easiness of secondary app (haha I hate writing lol), and OOS acceptance rates

which schools did I choose that have IS super-bias?

 

[Nahnia]

Complete mid to late September. Applied to 9 schools and got 3 interviews lets see what happens and silence from 2. Hoping for the best!

 

[nabilesmail]

I don't think I chose any schools that have a big IS preference. All the schools I chose were based upon numbers/easiness of secondary app (haha I hate writing lol), and OOS acceptance rates

which schools did I choose that have IS super-bias?

On a bright note I may be wrong about my 1st interview. I remember my interview faculty saying something like admissions will review and offer acceptance in 2 weeks, if you dont hear about an acceptance-> waitlist/rejected will come out in march.

But a couple of people on the Hofstra forum have said they vote in 2 weeks but they dont necessarily send out the acceptance email in 2 weeks

 

[theherowedeserv]

Hey, so i've had 3 interviews and one more coming up.
Submitted september 4th, verified october 4th, and complete late october to late november.

How likely is it that i will have to reapply. I know i'm having to compete for a few seats left with students basically as competitive as me. Is the only thing i can hope for is getting lucky?

 

[theherowedeserv]

It depends on the schools you're interviewing at. Rolling? Non-rolling? How competitive are you versus the median stats for those schools?

Either way, GL for whenever you hear back!

I would say my LizzyM scores are all comparable to the average/median of the schools. They are either slightly above, slightly below, or exactly at.

 

[MedPR]

I don't think I chose any schools that have a big IS preference. All the schools I chose were based upon numbers/easiness of secondary app (haha I hate writing lol), and OOS acceptance rates

which schools did I choose that have IS super-bias?

None but your app is top heavy imo

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[d12]

On a bright note I may be wrong about my 1st interview. I remember my interview faculty saying something like admissions will review and offer acceptance in 2 weeks, if you dont hear about an acceptance-> waitlist/rejected will come out in march.

But a couple of people on the Hofstra forum have said they vote in 2 weeks but they dont necessarily send out the acceptance email in 2 weeks

Yep, I was told at Hofstra that the absolute earliest we'd hear back was ~2 weeks. I did, however, hear rumblings from current students there that their class was pretty close to full at this point, but also that a ton of people come off of the waitlist (it looks like I interviewed a couple days after you did). Since they're a new school they cannot accept too many more applicants than they have potential spots for. They don't have the luxury that more established schools do.

As for your application, don't lose hope quite yet, but also start trying to figure out where you could improve. From looking at your mdapps your list is a little top heavy, but you applied to so many schools that I don't think it matters that much. I counted ~20 schools where your numbers fit, so I don't think your stats are the issue at all. Your app is later than ideal, but not THAT late. You may want to have others glance over your PS, activities, etc. You also mention your LORs aren't that strong (and only 3?), which could also be an issue. Good luck!

 

[lpp06]

Haven't been on this thread in awhile.

Complete Mid-Late Oct. most everywhere

Applied to 19 Schools, 7 Rejections, 1 assumed Silent Rejection, 1 withdrawl (MCAT score too old-was misinformed by MSAR), 1 Interview Invite (came on 1/17, scheduled for 2/12), and 9 silences.

One school did explicitly tell that my file was still under review, when I emailed them about my contact information changing. Didn't solicit it or anything...maybe a good sign?

 

[physiologist]

Oh hey everyone,
I thought I posted in here ages ago but I guess not. I submitted late September... I've received 4 interviews so far and a couple of rejections (and possibly a couple silent ones too). Extremely low gpa and average MCAT. I've been told I have great writing skills so hopefully that's been in my favor too.

Let's all hang in there! 😀

Creepy. I could've said exactly the same thing myself.

Low gpa, average MCAT, and 4 II's... although looking at your MDApps is quite a bit higher than yours, my MCAT is one point higher, but I'm ORM (Caucasian).

I hope this doesn't come across as racist, but even based on my (mostly wealthy) black friends who are applying to US schools, MD schools really like to bend over backwards for diversity. I have an African American friend with a 3.05 GPA who has 6 II's!

 

[nabilesmail]

Yep, I was told at Hofstra that the absolute earliest we'd hear back was ~2 weeks. I did, however, hear rumblings from current students there that their class was pretty close to full at this point, but also that a ton of people come off of the waitlist (it looks like I interviewed a couple days after you did). Since they're a new school they cannot accept too many more applicants than they have potential spots for. They don't have the luxury that more established schools do.

As for your application, don't lose hope quite yet, but also start trying to figure out where you could improve. From looking at your mdapps your list is a little top heavy, but you applied to so many schools that I don't think it matters that much. I counted ~20 schools where your numbers fit, so I don't think your stats are the issue at all. Your app is later than ideal, but not THAT late. You may want to have others glance over your PS, activities, etc. You also mention your LORs aren't that strong (and only 3?), which could also be an issue. Good luck!

That is what I thought as well. I applied to a lot of top schools, but I applied to like 34 schools in general, 24-26 schools in which my stats were at or above average. I was hoping to get into Hofstra without the waitlist so I coulld finally have some breathing room :]

 

[SOMBound13]

I don't think I chose any schools that have a big IS preference. All the schools I chose were based upon numbers/easiness of secondary app (haha I hate writing lol), and OOS acceptance rates

which schools did I choose that have IS super-bias?

Although Baylor is private, I think the state of Texas gives it money so that it will give a strong preference for Texas applicants.

As for the Arizona schools, while they seem to accept about 25% of OOS students, it's unknown how many are MD/XXX (so residency doesn't matter) or may have ties to the state. I don't know how Arizona SOMs count their PR admits...OOS? Arizona gets a ridiculous amount of OOS apps (percentage-wise), so chances of being unhooked OOS would be low.

Buffalo accepts about 20% of OOS students, but again, those students may have ties to the state.

public SOMs have a mission to educate future doctors for their particular state. If you can indicate that you won't just get your education there and then practice elsewhere, then you'd have a better chance.

 

[nabilesmail]

I did not fill secondaries for the arizona schools. For the ones that say application submitted (but not complete), I ended up not doing those apps. Except for (UCLA, VANDY, DREW didn't get secondaries)

 

[heartshaped box]

Finished last secondary Monday night (on the deadline)...call from Director of Admissions for ii Wed morning!

My last 2 ii were also from my top choices which I applied to on their deadline (Dec 1).

Total: 6 ii 4 rejections 5 silences

Good luck and don't lose hope!!

I dont even know why im asking...URM?

 

[WorksInProgress]

Did we lose everyone to the panic thread?

Barring 4th quarter invite from Hopkins, I think my interview season was done as of Jan. Hopefully the best is yet to come, but it's been a crazy (good) ride all in all. No complaints here.

29 schools complete, 25 invites, 18 attended, 8 acceptances, 1 rejection (pre-interview), 3 silent (but 1 is a presumed rejection)

 

[type12]

Did we lose everyone to the panic thread?

Barring 4th quarter invite from Hopkins, I think my interview season was done as of Jan. Hopefully the best is yet to come, but it's been a crazy (good) ride all in all. No complaints here.

29 schools complete, 25 invites, 18 attended, 8 acceptances, 1 rejection (pre-interview), 3 silent (but 1 is a presumed rejection)

DAMN! Stats or it didn't happen. Also, list of schools please 😀

 

[SOMBound13]

Originally Posted by geeraffes
Finished last secondary Monday night (on the deadline)...call from Director of Admissions for ii Wed morning!

My last 2 ii were also from my top choices which I applied to on their deadline (Dec 1).

Total: 6 ii 4 rejections 5 silences

Good luck and don't lose hope!!

I dont even know why im asking...URM?

From another Geeraffes' post:

Hello,


3.98 gpa

MCAT- 37(13 V, 12 B, 12 P) M(lol)

Applied kind of late in the cycle (primary submitted Aug 14)

Very high stats. JMO, but I think some SOMs keep a few open II spots for late applicants that are either URM or very high stats.

 

[squat]

Got another ii last week (from Chicago), so they are still trickling out (for those of you waiting).

 

[WorksInProgress]

DAMN! Stats or it didn't happen. Also, list of schools please 😀

My stats are unusual (low GPA, high MCAT, nontrad, long story). Schools range from Harvard to unranked and everywhere in between.

 

[type12]

My stats are unusual (low GPA, high MCAT, nontrad, long story). Schools range from Harvard to unranked and everywhere in between.

Can you PM me? I'd love to hear your story, frankly. Me: Low GPA (3.3), high MCAT IMO (34), nontrad, long story too. Harvard was not on my list, but WU was (decided not to complete secondary after seeing rejections from my state schools).

 

[Camy99]

Congratulations! They were also at good schools too!

Aw, thanks! Good luck, hang in there 🙂

Creepy. I could've said exactly the same thing myself.

Low gpa, average MCAT, and 4 II's... although looking at your MDApps is quite a bit higher than yours, my MCAT is one point higher, but I'm ORM (Caucasian).

I hope this doesn't come across as racist, but even based on my (mostly wealthy) black friends who are applying to US schools, MD schools really like to bend over backwards for diversity. I have an African American friend with a 3.05 GPA who has 6 II's!

I'm still stuck on the fact that you went to find my MDApps xD

 

[WorksInProgress]

...Barring 4th quarter invite from Hopkins, I think my interview season was done as of Jan.

And with 0.4 sec on the clock, Hopkins pulls a D-Fish on me. Back into interview mode.

 

[kash money]

And with 0.4 sec on the clock, Hopkins pulls a D-Fish on me. Back into interview mode.

Kinda feeling like Duncan aren't ya? 😉
Good luck!

 

[geeraffes]

I dont even know why im asking...URM?

Haha nope!

Update: 15 apps -> 6 ii -> 2 acceptances, 4 pending

2 acceptances were from Dec1 and Jan 15 secondary submissions. Interestingly, I have been pretty much rejected from every mid-tier I applied to 5 iis were from Top 15 (+ 1 state school).

 

[JGimpel]

Everyone that was going to get in this cycle has. That's where yo' late applicants are at. Every person sending LOIs in now is competing for 1 or 2 waitlist spots that will turn into an actual offer.

If you subscribe to the low/mid/high tier stratification, just remember that this will tell everyone what kind of student/resident you'll be for the rest of your career. Glad I don't buy into that garbage, but I'm not deciding whether or not you get into my zero-tier residency. Put down US News and World Report and get back to studying for your class/MCAT retakes.

 

[lcck]

Just got my first acceptance today and to one of my top choices! Best of luck to everyone still stuck in limbo!

 

[nabilesmail]

Everyone that was going to get in this cycle has. That's where yo' late applicants are at. Every person sending LOIs in now is competing for 1 or 2 waitlist spots that will turn into an actual offer.

If you subscribe to the low/mid/high tier stratification, just remember that this will tell everyone what kind of student/resident you'll be for the rest of your career. Glad I don't buy into that garbage, but I'm not deciding whether or not you get into my zero-tier residency. Put down US News and World Report and get back to studying for your class/MCAT retakes.

what? lol

 

[type12]

what? lol

+1 I'm really curious. I genuinely can't figure out what he's saying.

 

[quechua]

Everyone that was going to get in this cycle has. That's where yo' late applicants are at. Every person sending LOIs in now is competing for 1 or 2 waitlist spots that will turn into an actual offer.

If you subscribe to the low/mid/high tier stratification, just remember that this will tell everyone what kind of student/resident you'll be for the rest of your career. Glad I don't buy into that garbage, but I'm not deciding whether or not you get into my zero-tier residency. Put down US News and World Report and get back to studying for your class/MCAT retakes.

what? lol

+1 I'm really curious. I genuinely can't figure out what he's saying.

This thread is titled "where all ma late applicants at!?!?" Resident Gimpel is stating that 'all the late applicants' are simply competing for wait list spots that will hopefully turn into offers. He is states that the no one else is going to get into medical school this cycle. He goes on to imply that 'all the late applicants' should study to retake the MCAT and/or continue to complete/retake/enroll in classes.

He is essentially suggesting that there is no hope for 'all the late applicants'.

*The* best part about his post immediately followed when someone else posted that they received their first acceptance today. Almost entirely trumping his position on the status of late applicants. It's obvious he hasn't read this thread either... If had read the thread prior to posting, maybe he would have realized that many people on this thread have received acceptances. :wink:

 

[type12]

This thread is titled "where all ma late applicants at!?!?" Resident Gimpel is stating that 'all the late applicants' are simply competing for wait list spots that will hopefully turn into offers. He is states that the no one else is going to get into medical school this cycle. He goes on to imply that 'all the late applicants' should study to retake the MCAT and/or continue to complete/retake/enroll in classes.

He is essentially suggesting that there is no hope for 'all the late applicants'.

I dunno, he's an old member. I don't think he was trying to be mean... 😕 There'd be no point - and yeah, he'd be hilariously wrong if that was the case.

 

[quechua]

Hilarious. Love that some people just get off on trampling all over people's hopes, especially the ones with no basis for doing so. Awesome, dude! I'm sure you'll be a great doctor, too.

Umm... I only explained what he was attempting to state because other people stated that they didn't know what he was talking about. I thought it was obvious that I disagree with him... considering I went on to state that he should have read other posts in this thread and saw that people are getting acceptances even though they are late applicants! I guess that wasn't very apparent.

 

[quechua]

I dunno, he's an old member. I don't think he was trying to be mean... 😕 There'd be no point - and yeah, he'd be hilariously wrong if that was the case.

He joined in October 2012. That's not old. He totally wanted to stomp on hope in this thread. Not cool, not cool.

Haha I was talking about him, not you 🙂 sorry! I can't multi quote on my phone so that was the confusion.

lol I'm sorry! I wanted to make sure that my posts did not suggest that I share that person's beliefs.

 

[solesurprise]

Hope for other late applicants - I was AMCAS complete in late August and didn't submit most of my secondaries until the third week of October. Interviews are not all gone! Hang in you guys! And remember there's gonna be a lot of waitlist movement after May 15th (and probably a lot before then too.)

 

[JGimpel]

I guess my version of English was not what was expected. The ghetto-fabulous naming of this thread is an embarrassment, but more power to you if you think it will help. One can't help poking fun at it, though..

There's not much more you can do at this point to try and get a spot, so study for your classes or MCATs or whatever. Don't be "that guy" that sends out more than one LOI, schools talk and it won't look good if they do. Go ahead and take an interview now if you want, it's all up to you.

I feel really old some days, have been lurking this site for years and did join recently to put in some of my own feedback. Yes, my entire logic and the premise of my first post was absolutely trumped when one person posted that they got in somewhere right afterwards. I'm going hang my head in shame and get back to work.

 

[WorksInProgress]

Don't be "that guy" that sends out more than one LOI, schools talk and it won't look good if they do.

Funny... sent a Letter of Interest (one of a number) on a Wednesday. Received confirmation of receipt said letter that Thursday. Invited to interview that Friday. This, after having submitted my secondary in September.

Go ahead and take an interview now if you want, it's all up to you.

Thanks for the heads up, but I think I'll take my chances.

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Funny... sent a Letter of Interest (one of a number) on a Wednesday. Received confirmation of receipt said letter that Thursday. Invited to interview that Friday. This, after having submitted my secondary in September.



Thanks for the heads up, but I think I'll take my chances.

strong use of memery.

edit: i just saved that. dont get mad if I use it.

 

[askamsky51]

Funny... sent a Letter of Interest (one of a number) on a Wednesday. Received confirmation of receipt said letter that Thursday. Invited to interview that Friday. This, after having submitted my secondary in September.



Thanks for the heads up, but I think I'll take my chances.

I think he was confusing letter of interest with letter of intent. Big difference.

 

[lpp06]

Funny... sent a Letter of Interest (one of a number) on a Wednesday. Received confirmation of receipt said letter that Thursday. Invited to interview that Friday. This, after having submitted my secondary in September.



Thanks for the heads up, but I think I'll take my chances.

Did you have valuable updates in your LOInterest? Or was it simply

Dear U of X, I really like you. Bye.

 

[WorksInProgress]

Did you have valuable updates in your LOInterest? Or was it simply

Dear U of X, I really like you. Bye.

No it was mostly updates about work, volunteering, new awards, papers/presentations etc... I went the route of one big gigantic update instead of multiple updates over the course the cycle, followed by "I really like you. Bye." I suspect it cost me an interview invite at my top choice, but them's the breaks.

 

[nabilesmail]

I guess my version of English was not what was expected. The ghetto-fabulous naming of this thread is an embarrassment, but more power to you if you think it will help. One can't help poking fun at it, though..

There's not much more you can do at this point to try and get a spot, so study for your classes or MCATs or whatever. Don't be "that guy" that sends out more than one LOI, schools talk and it won't look good if they do. Go ahead and take an interview now if you want, it's all up to you.

I feel really old some days, have been lurking this site for years and did join recently to put in some of my own feedback. Yes, my entire logic and the premise of my first post was absolutely trumped when one person posted that they got in somewhere right afterwards. I'm going hang my head in shame and get back to work.

You may in fact be the worst most disheartening poster on studoc. But on top of that, your writing skills are abysmal.You make absolutely no sense, and go through topics no one has mentioned or tried defending. On top of that, your advice is horrid. This isn't the "HI WE HAVE LOW MCATZ AND GPAZ THREAD", this is the late application thread. If we are having no luck it is because of our late applications, not our MCATs. What's funny is the title of this thread is still more understandable than your posts

 

[type12]

You may in fact be the worst most disheartening poster on studoc. But on top of that, your writing skills are abysmal.You make absolutely no sense, and go through topics no one has mentioned or tried defending. On top of that, your advice is horrid. This isn't the "HI WE HAVE LOW MCATZ AND GPAZ THREAD", this is the late application thread. If we are having no luck it is because of our late applications, not our MCATs. What's funny is the title of this thread is still more understandable than your posts

Thank you! (and WIP!)

 

[JGimpel]

You may in fact be the worst most disheartening poster on studoc. But on top of that, your writing skills are abysmal.You make absolutely no sense, and go through topics no one has mentioned or tried defending. On top of that, your advice is horrid. This isn't the "HI WE HAVE LOW MCATZ AND GPAZ THREAD", this is the late application thread. If we are having no luck it is because of our late applications, not our MCATs. What's funny is the title of this thread is still more understandable than your posts

Looks like I've made you a bit angry. I suppose you've gone back and looked through all of my posts to see if the advice is good or not. I thank you for your patience and thoroughness in doing so. Your post count doesn't buy you anything in the real world, though. Real world experience is everything and you'll find that out soon enough when you get through a few years of your training.

If you say that the people on this thread are not having good luck due to the applications being in late, why are you so offended when someone that has watched a few of these cycles tells you to stop because it might actually be too late? Besides sending one letter of intent off, there really isn't much else to do, so stop worrying about it.

Work on your temper, your MCAT or your GPA or whatever, at this point. If you don't want a realistic point of view, why come here to ask for it?

 

[WorksInProgress]

If you don't want a realistic point of view, why come here to ask for it?

But... but... but no one here requested anyone's opinion. So... uh...

 

[JGimpel]

But... but... but no one here requested anyone's opinion. So... uh...

Looks like hSDN may have graduated a few too early and some appeared on a thread where many may have acted too late for this cycle. If you're looking for the cheerleaders to root you on, that also gets cut way down after hSDN. If you're looking for advice, you got some and it may have been more realistic than you expected. Other than that, I'm going to ask what you're on this thread for? If you came to SDN for moral support or unrealistic expectations, you may have come to the wrong place.

Welcome to SDN.

 

[Weewee]

Mcat September 6, turned in aamcas 9/22, complete 10/23ish for 16 schools

14 Secondarys complete from mid-November to mid-January

2 pre-secondary rejections (Indiana & silence from ucr)
3 post secondary rejections
6 ii
5 silences

Of my six interview invites I attended 3 and withdrew from 3.
Of the 3 I attended I got two acceptances and I'm still waiting to hear from the other ( pretty sure it's a wl or rejection by now)

There is hope for all the late people!!!! Just don't do it unless you have no choice/want to give yourself a heart attack hahah