Where did you match???

[jonwill]

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The match is today. 4th years, where are you going?

 

[PMSIII]

St. Vincent Charity Hospital at Cleveland, OH and I couldn't be happier.

Congrats to those of us who matched today!

 

[215512]

St. Vincent Charity Hospital at Cleveland, OH and I couldn't be happier.

Congrats to those of us who matched today!

congratulations! was that your first choice?

 

[Feli]

I got my top choice at St John North Shores... real excited to get started in a few months. 😀

 

[Feli]

CSt. Vincent Charity Hospital at Cleveland, OH

That's awesome, man... Dr. Grossman is a great surgeon and gave some nice lectures at ACFAS in Wash DC this past weekend. I'm sure you will see some great stuff in the next few years.

Congrats to those of us who matched today!

Definitely 👍
We had a lot of ppl in my class who matched great programs today... many will be heading to their top choice training hospital.

 

[PMSIII]

That's awesome, man... Dr. Grossman is a great surgeon and gave some nice lectures at ACFAS in Wash DC this past weekend. I'm sure you will see some great stuff in the next few years.

Definitely 👍
We had a lot of ppl in my class who matched great programs today... many will be heading to their top choice training hospital.

Thanks man! I'm super pumped. He is definitely the man and I look forward to three solid years of training with minimal sleep lol. Congrats to you too Feli - I know you loved St. John's North Shores so I'm glad it all worked out for ya. Holy $%# we're doctors in 2 months!!!! lol

 

[PMSIII]

congratulations! was that your first choice?

Thank you. Yes that was my first choice without a doubt.

 

[dpmgrad]

Congrats to 4th year students on their residency match.

Many of the residency programs in Philly area did well this year. We got our number one pick.

 

[Feli]

500+ thread views and 2 ppl listing their match? I guess this is top secret info. 😀

 

[215512]

Anyone get into bay area residencies for PM&S36?

 

[Feli]

Anyone get into bay area residencies for PM&S36?

Those programs are in pretty high demand and filled all of their spots in the match again this year.

My Barry '09 class matched from coast to coast, but like every year, our list is dominated by FL programs:

South Miami Hosp x2
JFK x2
VA-Tampa
Northwest Med Cntr (FL)
Hollywood Med Cntr
Jackson South Hosp
Palmetto General Hosp x2
Mt Sinai (Miami)
Mercy Hosp x2
VA-Miami x2
Westchester Gen Hosp x2
Presby-St Lukes
VA-Tucson
Kaiser-SF Bay
DMC
St John North Shores
Univ Tex-SA Health Science Center
West Houston x3
Kingwood
Presbyterian Hosp Greenville
Forum Health Youngstown
Roger Williams Med Cntr
Howard Univ Hosp
Good Samaritan Hosp
Mt Sinai Queens
Dekalb Med Cntr

Those are just some of the ones I've heard about, but school will usually update the official list once scramble is over with...
http://www.barry.edu/podiatry/residencies.htm

 

[165007]

Those programs are in pretty high demand and filled all of their spots in the match again this year.

My Barry '09 class matched from coast to coast, but like every year, our list is dominated by FL programs:

South Miami Hosp
JFK x2
VA-Tampa
Northwest Med Cntr (FL)
Hollywood Med Cntr
Jackson South Hosp
Palmetto General Hosp x2
Mt Sinai (Miami)
Mercy Hosp x2
VA-Miami x2
Westchester Gen Hosp x2
Presby-St Lukes
Kaiser-SF Bay
DMC
St John North Shores
Univ Tex-SA Health Science Center
West Houston x3
Kingwood
Presbyterian Hosp Greenville
Forum Health Youngstown
Roger Williams Med Cntr
Howard Univ Hosp
Good Samaritan Hosp
Mt Sinai Queens
Dekalb Med Cntr

Those are just some of the ones I've heard about, but school will usually update the official list once scramble is over with...
http://www.barry.edu/podiatry/residencies.htm

Impressive list.

I have a question. I remember reading/hearing somewhere that Mt. sinai is on probation. Is that true?

 

[Feli]

...I have a question. I remember reading/hearing somewhere that Mt. sinai is on probation. Is that true?

I *think* Mt Sinai Miami just accepted a resident for their one PMS-36 spot and is not filling their PMS-24 spot this cycle to ensure they'll get enough surgical numbers. As with any program, you'd need to check directly with the program to be certain of the latest status updates, though.

For the latest accreditation of all programs (important before picking clerkships, before interviews/ranking, etc), you can always check the CPME site's CPME 300 document:
http://www.apma.org/Members/Education/CPMEAccreditation/Residencies/CPME300updated081508.aspx

 

[dyk343]

Those programs are in pretty high demand and filled all of their spots in the match again this year.

My Barry '09 class matched from coast to coast, but like every year, our list is dominated by FL programs:

South Miami Hosp
JFK x2
VA-Tampa
Northwest Med Cntr (FL)
Hollywood Med Cntr
Jackson South Hosp
Palmetto General Hosp x2
Mt Sinai (Miami)
Mercy Hosp x2
VA-Miami x2
Westchester Gen Hosp x2
Presby-St Lukes
Kaiser-SF Bay
DMC
St John North Shores
Univ Tex-SA Health Science Center
West Houston x3
Kingwood
Presbyterian Hosp Greenville
Forum Health Youngstown
Roger Williams Med Cntr
Howard Univ Hosp
Good Samaritan Hosp
Mt Sinai Queens
Dekalb Med Cntr

Those are just some of the ones I've heard about, but school will usually update the official list once scramble is over with...
http://www.barry.edu/podiatry/residencies.htm

Hey Feli did most (all?) of the 4th years at Barry find a decent residency? I'm just curious because I heard they have really good residency placements.

 

[templepodnc]

My Barry '09 class matched from coast to coast, but like every year, our list is dominated by FL programs:

No one from Barry matched at Orlando or Westside?

Also, some pretty big name programs are scrambling this cycle which I found interesing. Yale, West Penn and even Scripps San Diego.

 

[longstech]

Also, some pretty big name programs are scrambling this cycle which I found interesing. Yale, West Penn and even Scripps San Diego.[/QUOTE]

I am interested in the Scripps program and have heard that Dr. Greene can be pretty tough. Do you think this is why they did not match anyone (because not that many people were interested)?

 

[discusdan]

I matched at Detroit Medical Center

 

[krabmas]

I matched at Detroit Medical Center

DMU seems to be the feeder team to DMC.

 

[krabmas]

Also, some pretty big name programs are scrambling this cycle which I found interesing. Yale, West Penn and even Scripps San Diego.

I am interested in the Scipps program and have heard that Dr. Greene can be pretty tough. Do you think this is why they did not match to anyone (because not that many people were interested)?[/QUOTE]

Back when there were a few top programs the top programs could treat residents like crap and residents would want to go just to get good training because there weren't any other options.

Now, there are lots of other options. There are more good programs than there used to be and why put up with tons of crap if there is another program that is just as good w/ out all the crap?

This being said, I have never been to scripps - I was denied an externship.
But I will say that my program is perfect and the residents are treated like gold.😎

 

[Feli]

...Back when there were a few top programs the top programs could treat residents like crap and residents would want to go just to get good training because there weren't any other options.

Now, there are lots of other options. There are more good programs than there used to be and why put up with tons of crap if there is another program that is just as good w/ out all the crap?...

Exactly. 👍

 

[215512]

how do they treat residents like crap?

 

[Feli]

Also, some pretty big name programs are scrambling this cycle ...
...can be pretty tough. Do you think this is why they did not match anyone (because not that many people were interested)?

how do they treat residents like crap?

Nobody here is singling out any specific program, but residency is an individualized fit with a lot of egos involved. Depending on where you do your clerkships, you will probably come to realize that there are some programs that are hard because there's a ton of patient-related work to be done, but sometimes programs are just hard for the sake of being hard. It can be a trickle down effect from the director/attendings/chiefs ("my first year was hell and my attendings were strict, so now it's your turn").

At most historic "top programs" you will find a rigid structure (academics, rounding, cadavers, research, etc) and residents who are run fairly ragged. Residents then have almost no choice but to work a ton and graduate the program as an outstanding surgeon (or get fired along the way). It really is a military-type of rank system at some programs, and that means some of the insults, orders, duties, etc can be intimidating and tempers run short (it doesn't really make you Mr. Friendly when you sleep 3-5hrs per night with barely any days off). The downside of intense training is that you could become pretty miserable and have a tough time taking care of your family/health/sanity/etc if you don't realize what you're getting into.

It's like that old saying "no matter how hot the girl, there's a guy somewhere who is sick of her BS." Well, same goes for residencies...

Naturally, some good students now try to find a program with similar numbers and opportunity as the elite programs... but with more flexibility. However, that flexibility means it's up to each resident whether they want read, research, etc to graduate the program as a great surgeon or whether they want to do the minimum and end up just average. At most residencies, just like most classes, the efforts and interest level of the person learning matters as much or more than the efforts of the person teaching.

Tough programs with famous attendings and successful almuni will always get a lot of interest, though. They are famous because they've gotten results and obviously give you what you need. I'd say the majority of people who are in professional school are at least somewhat type A personalities who like structure. With the podiatry graduate:residency ratio swinging back in favor of the programs pretty soon, I really doubt you will see any dropoff in interest for any program that has good numbers and/or history of successful grads. The key is just to find the residency that is the right fit for you personally (structure, faculty, types of cases, co-residents, location, etc).

 

[Feli]

I matched at Detroit Medical Center

Congrats... awesome training!

 

[spo01]

Feli, congratulations on your top choice at Saint John North Shores! Represent BarryU 👍

 

[densmore22]

Scripps seems to scramble if not every year, every other year. What people forget is that residency is a business for the hospital and not just training for the prospective physician. As such, if they don't like their pool of applicants, they do not and are by no means obligated to accept a resident from that pool of people that externed/interviewed at that particular program.

DMU had pretty awesome placement this year, really spread out across the country. We filled the 2 spots at East Orlando, Grant, UPMC, West Penn, Houston, DMC, Tacoma, Franscisan (both spots), Portland, Utah, OSU, St. Vincents Charity, Phoenix, Trinity, etc, etc. Pretty good placement.

Congrats to all! I can hardly wait myself, 1 more year!

 

[densmore22]

Here's to round out the list of where DMU matched. Some people haven't filled in their spots, but the list is >85% complete.

Forum Health-Youngstown, OH
VA Albuquerque
Community Medical Center-Scranton, PA x2
OSU x2
St. John's Northshore
VA Phoenix
Franciscan x2
DMC
IMC-SLC, UT x2
DePaul Health Ctr-Bridgeton, MO x3
DVA Southern Az-Tuscon, AZ
Mountain Home-Tennessee
Dekalb Medical Ctr
Millcreek-Erie, PA
Trinity-Fort Dodge, IA
St. Luke's Allentown
Florida E. Orlando x2
UMDNJ
Truman Med Ctr-Kansas City
UPMC x2
West Houston
Scott and White
Regions-Minneapolis
Mercy Hospital-Coon Rapids, MN
St. Vincents Charity
Legacy Emanuel-Portland
Grant
South East Surgical Hospital-Warren, MI
Multicare-Tacoma

Congrats again to all the DMU future alum, great work and congrats to everyone else, great work as well!

 

[longstech]

If a program decides not to take in anybody that externed there and opt to scramble, doesn't that put them at a greater risk for getting someone who they probably will not like (if they already did not like all the others who externed there and wanted one of their residency positions)?

If this is the case do they then just fire the person, who is then left to find another residency the following year?

 

[densmore22]

No one is hired on yet at that residency unless you match, so there is no one to "fire" per se. If you match a residency, you are contracturally obligated and thus are an employee of that hospital/hospital system.

Some decide that for whatever reasons, no one is a suitable match for their spot (be it personality, academic, miscommunication about ranking students and vice versa, etc, etc) and they thus deicide that they will take their chances interviewing from the pool that scrambles. Most places interview the student before accepting them on a scrambled spot, you don't just call them up and say hey, I scrambled, can I do residency with you? It doesn't work that way. It's an interview process. Yes, I would think it would put them at a greater risk for getting someone they didn't like, but who knows!

So overall, there's 1000 reasons why a program might go unmatched. Furthermore, I'm not sure on all the details, but a program can not take any residents for a year (I'm not sure if they're put on probabtion for that year or what happens), but they can opt to not take anyone or fill all of their spots if they deem fit.

If a program decides not to take in anybody that externed there and opt to scramble, doesn't that put them at a greater risk for getting someone who they probably will not like (if they already did not like all the others who externed there and wanted one of their residency positions)?

If this is the case do they then just fire the person, who is then left to find another residency the following year?

 

[PMSIII]

I matched at Detroit Medical Center

Congratulations on an awesome program. This was one of my favorite rotations without a doubt. Lots of cool surgery, and a good group of residents + attendings to learn from.

 

[SportPOD]

This is what I've heard for the AzPOD program:

VA Phoenix x 2
SF Kaiser
Vallejo Kaiser
Scripps x 2
Cleveland Clinic/OKC
Henry Ford Wyandotte
PSL
UPMC
Inova
Yale

I'll update as I hear more from the masses.

 

[cgypod]

going to inova! (i guess i should have posted last week...ah well). too busy trying to not get kicked out of the country.😀

 

[desertpod]

This is what I've heard for the AzPOD program:

VA Phoenix x 2
SF Kaiser
Vallejo Kaiser
Scripps x 2
Cleveland Clinic/OKC
Henry Ford Wyandotte
PSL
UPMC
Inova
Yale

I'll update as I hear more from the masses.

Here are some more AZPOD matches

Madigan Army, Tacoma, WA
Henry Ford, Macomb, MI
North Colorado, Greeley, CO
John Peter Smith, Fort Worth, TX

 

[SportPOD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SportPOD
This is what I've heard for the AzPOD program:

VA Phoenix x 2
SF Kaiser
Vallejo Kaiser
Scripps x 2
Cleveland Clinic/OKC
Henry Ford Wyandotte
PSL
UPMC
Inova
Yale

I'll update as I hear more from the masses.

Here are some more AZPOD matches

Madigan Army, Tacoma, WA
Henry Ford, Macomb, MI
North Colorado, Greeley, CO
John Peter Smith, Fort Worth, TX

Ok, I think this will complete the list:

Portland Legacy
Oakwood
College Hospital Costa Mesa
Greater LA VA x 2
St. Mary's Health System - IN
St Vincent Hospital - MA
United Health Services Hospital - NY
Shands Jacksonville Medical Center
Covenant Medical Center - IA
West Penn
North Colorado Medical Center

No one from AzPOD matched at UPMC, that was an error on my part.

 

[TheBee]

Nobody here is singling out any specific program, but residency is an individualized fit with a lot of egos involved. Depending on where you do your clerkships, you will probably come to realize that there are some programs that are hard because there's a ton of patient-related work to be done, but sometimes programs are just hard for the sake of being hard. It can be a trickle down effect from the director/attendings/chiefs ("my first year was hell and my attendings were strict, so now it's your turn").

At most historic "top programs" you will find a rigid structure (academics, rounding, cadavers, research, etc) and residents who are run fairly ragged. Residents then have almost no choice but to work a ton and graduate the program as an outstanding surgeon (or get fired along the way). It really is a military-type of rank system at some programs, and that means some of the insults, orders, duties, etc can be intimidating and tempers run short (it doesn't really make you Mr. Friendly when you sleep 3-5hrs per night with barely any days off). The downside of intense training is that you could become pretty miserable and have a tough time taking care of your family/health/sanity/etc if you don't realize what you're getting into.

It's like that old saying "no matter how hot the girl, there's a guy somewhere who is sick of her BS." Well, same goes for residencies...

Naturally, some good students now try to find a program with similar numbers and opportunity as the elite programs... but with more flexibility. However, that flexibility means it's up to each resident whether they want read, research, etc to graduate the program as a great surgeon or whether they want to do the minimum and end up just average. At most residencies, just like most classes, the efforts and interest level of the person learning matters as much or more than the efforts of the person teaching.

Tough programs with famous attendings and successful almuni will always get a lot of interest, though. They are famous because they've gotten results and obviously give you what you need. I'd say the majority of people who are in professional school are at least somewhat type A personalities who like structure. With the podiatry graduate:residency ratio swinging back in favor of the programs pretty soon, I really doubt you will see any dropoff in interest for any program that has good numbers and/or history of successful grads. The key is just to find the residency that is the right fit for you personally (structure, faculty, types of cases, co-residents, location, etc).

I really don't get this practice. Not that I want a psychoanalyzation of residents and residency programs or anything, but really who thrives on 3-5 hours of sleep? I can guarantee that if you let me get at least 7 hours of sleep per night I'll be ten times more useful to you as a resident than if I get 3-5. If I can't handle nights of no sleep in podiatric medical school, what magically changes for me once I graduate?

Just curious because that's what I'm going to be getting into in 3 years!

 

[Feli]

I really don't get this practice. Not that I want a psychoanalyzation of residents and residency programs or anything, but really who thrives on 3-5 hours of sleep? I can guarantee that if you let me get at least 7 hours of sleep per night I'll be ten times more useful to you as a resident than if I get 3-5. If I can't handle nights of no sleep in podiatric medical school, what magically changes for me once I graduate?

Just curious because that's what I'm going to be getting into in 3 years!

Actually, once you get out on your clerkships, I bet you'll be pretty suprised how well you can function on 4 or 5 hours of sleep per night as long as you get one good "recharge" night of 10+ hours once a week. The first week or so is always rough, but once you get into the habit of it, you can do ok if you use your free time very efficiently. You will realize that there are a lot of high functioning people out there.

 

[DrNdogg]

Here's a list of CSPM matches that I can confirm

Aestheticare-San Juan Capistrano, CA
Coast Plaza, CA
City of Angels, CA
Encino Tarzana, CA x2
Kaiser Vallejo x2
Kaiser Bay Area
Kaiser Hayward
Kaiser Santa Clara
St Mary's x3
Maricopa x2
VA Palo Alto, CA x2
VA Puget Sount, WA x2
VA Albuquerque, NM x2
VA San Fran, CA
Mt Sinai, IL
Wshingtin Hospital, DC

 

[JEWmongous]

Here's a list of CSPM matches that I can confirm

Aestheticare-San Juan Capistrano, CA
Coast Plaza, CA
City of Angels, CA
Encino Tarzana, CA x2
Kaiser Vallejo x2
Kaiser Bay Area
Kaiser Hayward
Kaiser Santa Clara
St Mary's x3
Maricopa x2
VA Palo Alto, CA x2
VA Puget Sount, WA x2
VA Albuquerque, NM x2
VA San Fran, CA
Mt Sinai, IL
Wshingtin Hospital, DC

Any of these big name programs? I heard the bay area kaisers were well known in the pod world

 

[215512]

Here's a list of CSPM matches that I can confirm

Aestheticare-San Juan Capistrano, CA
Coast Plaza, CA
City of Angels, CA
Encino Tarzana, CA x2
Kaiser Vallejo x2
Kaiser Bay Area
Kaiser Hayward
Kaiser Santa Clara
St Mary's x3
Maricopa x2
VA Palo Alto, CA x2
VA Puget Sount, WA x2
VA Albuquerque, NM x2
VA San Fran, CA
Mt Sinai, IL
Wshingtin Hospital, DC

albert burns dpm is at st marys and i know he is a great guy really nice, id love to hit up that residency but i mean kaiser is nothing to scoff at too i suppose! seems like mostly bay area and mainly just west coast residencies?

 

[JEWmongous]

albert burns dpm is at st marys and i know he is a great guy really nice, id love to hit up that residency but i mean kaiser is nothing to scoff at too i suppose! seems like mostly bay area and mainly just west coast residencies?

Idk if St.Mary's if known outside the bay area. I would imagine a lot of CSPM students go there because a few faculty attended (Dr. Tran for example) along with having it as a training facility. Seems more like a community hospital than a major medical center, but I think they do a few rotations outside at SF General and the like.

About west coast residencies + bay area, what do you expect guy? About 2/3 of the class comes from California plus majority of the rest are from surrounding states. To note, there was 1 single match to the midwest and 1 match to the east coast.

 

[215512]

About west coast residencies + bay area, what do you expect guy? About 2/3 of the class comes from California plus majority of the rest are from surrounding states. To note, there was 1 single match to the midwest and 1 match to the east coast.

i guess i got that enchanted feel from st marys when i visited for my interview haha. I don't know if its a good residency i suppose but yeah you are right if you are going to cspm chances are you are going to pretty much apply by and large for west coast residencies. you and I have a lot of time to think about this though-but its fun to kick ideas around ya know?

 

[bigkabob]

This is the latest match list from Scholl... it's about 90% complete



DVA Southern Arizona - AZ
Lakewood Regional Medical Center - CA
Cedars Sinai Medical Center - CA
DVA Palo Alto - CA
North Colorado Medical Center - CO
DVA Eastern Colorado Health Care - CO
Yale New Haven/DVA Healthcare – CT
Washington Hospital Center - DC
St. Joseph Hospital/DVA – North Chicago – IL (x4)
Rush University Medical Center – IL (x2)
Mercy Hospital and Medical Center - IL
Sacred Heart Hospital – IL (x2)
DVA Chicago - Jesse Brown – IL (x2)
Weiss Memorial Hospital/Oak Forest – IL (x3)
Advocate Illinois Masonic – IL (x3)
Loyola University Medical Center – IL (x2)
Loretto Hospital – IL
Mt. Sinai - IL
Norwegian American Hospital - IL
St. Joseph Regional Medical Center South Bend - IN
Westview Hospital - IN
Kentucky Podiatric Residency - KY
Norton Audubon Hospital Jewish Hospital & St. Mary's - KY
St. Vincent Hospital/WMC - MA
Massachusetts General Hospital - MA
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center - MA
DVA – Baltimore Healthcare System - MD
St. John North Shores Hospital - MI
Oakwood Annapolis Hospital - MI
Genesys Regional Medical Center - MI
Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals - MI
Botsford Hospital - MI
Hennepin County Medical Center – MN (x2)
Mineral Area Regional Medical - MO
Truman Medical Center Lakewood - MO
Long Island Jewish Medical Center - NY
Our Lady of Lourdes Memorial – NY (x2)
DVA – Northport - NY
DVA - New York Harbor Healthcare - NY
DVA – Dayton - OH
St. Vincent Mercy Medical Center - OH
Surgical Hospital of Oklahoma/CCF Oklahoma City - OK
Legacy Emanuel Hospital/Good Samaritan - OR
UPMC - PA
Frankford Hospital - PA
Western Pennsylvania Hospital – PA
Hahnemann University Hospital - PA
Mercy Suburban Hospital - PA
UTSA - TX
John Peter Smith Hospital - TX
Kingwood Medical Center - TX
Gundersen Lutheran - WI
Wheaton-Franciscan St. Joseph's - WI

 

[dpmjeff77]

INOVA...see you in July cgypod 😎