Match Day 2023

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girlwithameddream said:
I’m just terrified. I’ve no one to relate to bc most of my classmates got calls that they were ranked #1. Hence these anxious posts on an anonymous blog
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It’s a brutal process. Nothing about it is fun if you don’t know
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girlwithameddream said:
I’m just terrified. I’ve no one to relate to bc most of my classmates got calls that they were ranked #1. Hence these anxious posts on an anonymous blog
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I never got a call, same with some of my other close friends.
We all went where we wanted.
 
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Congratulations everyone who matched, we’re almost there! Does anyone have the list of programs with open spots?
 
FutureDPM123 said:
# of Programs Applied: 22

# of Interviews Attended: 15. 13 were done at CRIP and 2 on zoom. 9 were cold interviews. My stamina didn't start dropping till after 10 or 11 interviews, but I guess it was worth it.

# of Programs Ranked: 15

Matched 🙂
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Holy cow is matching 15 normal or is that a little overkill?
 
Here's the MP-II list. Doesn't say how many spots each one has :/. You can also see it on the website: CASPR | Participating Programs - MPII

Program / Track(s)AACPM DirectoryDeadlineCRIPLocation
DVA - Carl T. Hayden VA Medical Center
2391 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesArizona-Phoenix
Saint Francis Hospital and Medical Center
6231 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesConnecticut-Hartford
Yale-New Haven Hospital
6271 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesConnecticut-New Haven
DVA - Bay Pines VA Healthcare System
5451 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoFlorida-Bay Pines
Larkin Community Hospital - Palm Springs Campus
5461 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesFlorida-Hialeah
Keralty Hospital
5331 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesFlorida-Miami
Mercy Hospital-Campus of Plantation General, BUSPM
5031 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoFlorida-Miami
Emory University School of Medicine
5231 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesGeorgia-Decatur
Henry Ford Health - Henry Ford Macomb Hospital
4461 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Clinton Township
Beaumont Hospital - Farmington Hills
4431 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Farmington Hills
Ascension Genesys Hospital
4451 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Grand Blanc
McLaren Macomb Hospital
4751 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Mt Clemens
McLaren Oakland
4491 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Pontiac
Beaumont Hospital - Trenton
4721 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Trenton
Henry Ford Health - Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital
4471 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesMichigan-Wyandotte
Englewood Hospital and Medical Center
6361 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew Jersey-Englewood
Morristown Medical Center
6391 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew Jersey-Morristown
Jersey Shore University Medical Center
6471 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew Jersey-Neptune
Our Lady of Lourdes Memorial Hospital, Inc.
8351 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Binghamton
Brookdale Hospital Medical Center
8231 - PMSR/RRA
8232 - PMSR		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Brooklyn
Coney Island Hospital
8041 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Brooklyn
New York Community Hospital
8162 - PMSR		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Brooklyn
SUNY Downstate - University Hospital of Brooklyn
8561 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Brooklyn
The Brooklyn Hospital Center
8661 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Brooklyn
Wyckoff Heights Medical Center
8461 - PMSR/RRA
8462 - PMSR		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Brooklyn
Catholic Health System - Sisters of Charity Hosp
8031 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Buffalo
United Health Services Hospitals, Inc.
8441 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Johnson City
HealthAlliance Hospital
8011 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Kingston
Montefiore Mount Vernon Hospital
8521 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Mt Vernon
Bellevue Hospital
8092 - PMSR		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-New York
Mount Sinai Beth Israel Medical Center
8581 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-New York
New York College and Metropolitan Hospital Center
8271 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-New York
Plainview Hospital
8721 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Plainview
Rochester General Hospital
8701 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNew York-Rochester
Richmond University Medical Center
8671 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Staten Island
Staten Island Univ Hospital at Northwell Health
8431 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Staten Island
St. Elizabeth Medical Center
8712 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Utica
Saint Joseph's Medical Center
8641 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoNew York-Yonkers
Cape Fear Valley Medical Center
5491 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesNorth Carolina-Fayetteville
University Hospitals-Richmond Medical, Kent State
4661 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesOhio-Chardon
The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center
4671 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesOhio-Columbus
DVA - Dayton VA Medical Center
4601 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesOhio-Dayton
Lower Bucks Hospital
7531 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoPennsylvania-Bristol
LECOM Health/Millcreek Community Hospital
7241 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesPennsylvania-Erie
DVA - Lebanon
7121 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesPennsylvania-Lebanon
Roxborough Memorial Hospital
7301 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023NoPennsylvania-Philadelphia
Phoenixville Hospital
7511 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesPennsylvania-Phoenixville
Crozer-Chester Medical Center
7101 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesPennsylvania-Upland
Roger Williams Medical Center
6221 - PMSR/RRA		LinkMarch 10, 2023YesRhode Island-Providence
 
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Weirdy said:
I never got a call, same with some of my other close friends.
We all went where we wanted.
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100% agreed here. My close friends and I all got a program we wanted, be it #1 or #2. I think maybe 50% of them had any sort of call, convo, etc., indicating interest.

Also a lot of people said all kinds of stuff pre-match and the results were.......different haha. Don't listen to anyone.
 
# of Programs Applied: 10

# of Interviews Attended: 7 (5 in Texas. 2 on zoom). Cancelled 2 interviews while in Texas because they were for programs I never rotated with.

# of Programs Ranked: 6

Matched! Have no clue where though! Next Friday will definitely be a surprise.
 
Congrats to those who matched!

What’s going on with Jersey Shore? Several years ago that program was projected to be a top program and now they seem to be scrambling every year?
 
Ok, congrats to those who matched.
Next, two dumb questions:

1 - Wtf is match part 2 / phase 2? Is that a euphemism for what scramble is called now?

2 - Ppl don't know their match... on MATCH day? That's flat-out amazing. For ppl in scramble, knowing who matched and would be their co-resident is hugely important.

...and to answer some questions:
1 - Yeah, PI program is quite good but not for everyone. My impression was similar for that clerkship and also when I went to Presby (not surprising, since a few PI alumni are main attendings). I learned on those months but didn't apply for the interview with either.
2 - How many spots scramble programs still have open: for Wycoff and most NYC programs, that is equal to how many approved positions they have 🙂
 
Feli said:
Ok, congrats to those who matched.
Next, two dumb questions:

1 - Wtf is match part 2 / phase 2? Is that a euphemism for what scramble is called now?

2 - Ppl don't know their match... on MATCH day? That's flat-out amazing. For ppl in scramble, knowing who matched and would be their co-resident is hugely important.

...and to answer some questions:
How many spots scramble programs still have open: for Wycoff and most NYC programs, that is equal to how many approved positions they have 🙂
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Apparently this mirrors MD/DO... they match, then find out where soon after 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
MusicManMike said:
Apparently this mirrors MD/DO... they match, then find out where soon after 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Hmm, super illogical and drama... but not totally shocking as podiatry does everything to copy MD, ortho, etc processes (obvious exceptions of admissions standards and limiting schools).
 
Feli said:
Ok, congrats to those who matched.
Next, two dumb questions:

1 - Wtf is match part 2 / phase 2? Is that a euphemism for what scramble is called now?

2 - Ppl don't know their match... on MATCH day? That's flat-out amazing. For ppl in scramble, knowing who matched and would be their co-resident is hugely important.
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1. Not everything that is new is dumb. They have had the MP2 process for probably 7-8(?) years now.

It is a much better and organized process having a 2nd round of match of all the unmatched applicants and programs with open spots. Students would have to have a suitcase packed the morning of match and hope that they lived in an area near available programs for a chance. Crazy things like the annual OCPM shuttle full of unmatched students driving to NY overnight and dropping them off in the middle of NYC no longer needs to happen.

The new process is advantageous to the unmatched applicant. Previously. If you were unmatched it was a chaotic disaster. If you were offered a spot you basically had to take it otherwise they would simply take the next applicant. Now when an unmatched student interviews with a program they no longer have to accept on the spot, they simply rank it in the MP2 portal.

2. Of course people know their match on match day. Official match day is March 17.
 
Feli said:
...and to answer some questions:
1 - Yeah, PI program is quite good but not for everyone. My impression was similar for that clerkship and also when I went to Presby (not surprising, since a few PI alumni are main attendings). I learned on those months but didn't apply for the interview with either.
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you sure it's still good? not what I've heard.
 
ToeFather said:
you sure [PI] is still good? not what I've heard.
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Yeah, they still have solid education, solid meetings, nearly all alumni are fair to excellent.

With the serious possibility of residency shortage and more and more watered-down programs, any program with even half that many good RRA attendings and cases is going to be pretty sought after.

I think PI (and similar) programs' main downside is now just that there are more and more good programs. That means top students don't have to put up with the BS 'rank order' and intense call and academics to get good training anymore. So, programs that are strict, bad hours, and demand top students might not match consistently as they did a decade or two or three ago. One or two top programs scramble every year, though...
 
josebiwasabi said:
...They have had the MP2 process for probably 7-8(?) years now.

It is a much better and organized process having a 2nd round of match of all the unmatched applicants and programs with open spots. Students would have to have a suitcase packed the morning of match and hope that they lived in an area near available programs for a chance. Crazy things like the annual OCPM shuttle full of unmatched students driving to NY overnight and dropping them off in the middle of NYC no longer needs to happen...
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I had no idea that happened.^^ That's incredibly sad.

I thought scramble was usually just having the CV/app ready for a phone/email/fax/zoom hustle and typically taking that match day off of pod school for the students involved in scramble (and being more available than usual for the programs' receptionist + director). I guess a second match timespan of 1-2wk more or whatever is a better way for all involved. It doesn't stop programs from deciding on the first day of scramble who they want (assuming the student interest is reciprocal), but it definitely lessens the urgency for both parties and allows them more time to find the best fit.

...I still don't understand why the students and programs who matched couldn't be told their match on the day the unmatched found out they were scrambling, though. It seems unnecessarily dramatic to hold the info from 90% because of 10%. None of that knowledge of match results affects the scramble process. It would actually help the scramble students to know who else is going there if a programs had matched 3/4 spots and scrambled 1/4. Most scramble students obviously target their clerkships or desired area programs (if any scrambled) versus unknowns, but even with unknown programs, that would only help them to know which classmates or co-clerks are locked in already and to be able to ask the scramble programs who else matched. They could gain info if they knew any of those match students through their school, clerkships, networking, etc.
 
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Feli said:
I had no idea that happened.^^ That's incredibly sad.

I thought scramble was usually just having the CV/app ready for a phone/email/fax/zoom hustle and typically taking that match day off of pod school for the students involved in scramble (and being more available than usual for the programs' receptionist + director). I guess a second match timespan of 1-2wk more or whatever is a better way for all involved. It doesn't stop programs from deciding on the first day of scramble who they want (assuming the student interest is reciprocal), but it definitely lessens the urgency for both parties and allows them more time to find the best fit.

...I still don't understand why the students and programs who matched couldn't be told their match on the day the unmatched found out they were scrambling, though. It seems unnecessarily dramatic to hold the info from 90% because of 10%. None of that knowledge of match results affects the scramble process. It would actually help the scramble students to know who else is going there if a programs had matched 3/4 spots and scrambled 1/4. Most scramble students obviously target their clerkships or desired area programs (if any scrambled) versus unknowns, but even with unknown programs, that would only help them to know which classmates or co-clerks are locked in already and to be able to ask the scramble programs who else matched. They could gain info if they knew any of those match students through their school, clerkships, social network, etc.
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It would help people to know, though I suppose you could also argue it gives some people and advantage that others don't have.

The end result is everyone finds out their match on the same day.

The real problem with the MP2 is that the scramble isn't run through a match algorithm (unless they changed it again) like the first match is. Its done in rounds and the danger is that good candidate could have better options waiting for them in later rounds but they feel obligated to take whatever they can get in their first round.

Consider - imagine you are the #2 top quality student in the scramble. There are 3 somehow good programs that made it in. They each have 1 spot available. All 3 programs that are good rank the #1 student as their top choice.

The #2 student is sitting there in round 1 and they have a NY program offering them a spot.

Back in the day the #2 student should - DO nothing. The round lasts 2 hours. Its interactive. As students accept programs - the programs disappear from the students screen. Similarly, as students accept programs - the students disappear from the programs queue.

Perfect world - when the #1 student accepts 1 of the 3 top programs - he disappears from the other programs screens and they call the #2 student and say - DON't accept anything - you are our top choice in the next round. Then the student can decline the NY program and simply find good options waiting for them in the next round.

If the system was simply run as a match the student would just match to whatever the #1 student didn't take. But if they ran a full match then they'd have to double check it and it wouldn't end in 1-2 days.
 
heybrother said:
The real problem with the MP2 is that the scramble isn't run through a match algorithm (unless they changed it again) like the first match is. Its done in rounds and the danger is that good candidate could have better options waiting for them in later rounds but they feel obligated to take whatever they can get in their first round.
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They actually changed it this year. They run a match one time for MP2. They will find out their program on match day.
 
heybrother said:
girlwithameddream said:
How many ppl from each school are in match phase 2?
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A buddy of mine scrambled. around 67-68 students scrambling with roughly 88 spots. Just the rumor going around lol. I know a few of them are also top of their class. For lack of a better term WOOF. Last year was a much better time to scramble.

My biggest critique is IF there are *allegedly* 20 open residency spots if all 67-68 students match, do we need two schools to fill those 20 spots? Should these 20 spots even exist? To me if these numbers are even in the ballpark of what is actual, there is a residency shortage incoming with these two new schools.

heybrother said:
How could Cape Fear scramble after all the SDN buzz and an epic meme...
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They scrambled multiple spots too. Unbelievable that the next up and coming high powered residency program could scramble multiple spots!
 
iridocyclitiss said:
A buddy of mine scrambled. around 67-68 students scrambling with roughly 88 spots. Just the rumor going around lol. I know a few of them are also top of their class. For lack of a better term WOOF. Last year was a much better time to scramble.

My biggest critique is IF there are *allegedly* 20 open residency spots if all 67-68 students match, do we need two schools to fill those 20 spots? Should these 20 spots even exist? To me if these numbers are even in the ballpark of what is actual, there is a residency shortage incoming with these two new schools.


They scrambled multiple spots too. Unbelievable that the next up and coming high powered residency program could scramble multiple spots!
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It really is shocking the amount of students who were ranked near the top of their class and went unmatched. Hope it works out for all of them.
 
iridocyclitiss said:
My biggest critique is IF there are *allegedly* 20 open residency spots if all 67-68 students match, do we need two schools to fill those 20 spots? Should these 20 spots even exist? To me if these numbers are even in the ballpark of what is actual, there is a residency shortage incoming with these two new schools.
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There are quite a few bad surgical programs out there, but not everyone wants to do complicated surgeries. I do wish there was an easier way to decipher the surgical quality of programs when picking clerkships besides what classmates say. I do have a feeling the opening of the new schools will mostly eat into the class sizes of the other schools rather than result in admission of tons more students given the low number of applications.
 
Othello said:
Whats up with Westchester/Keralty?? Always see them and Wycoff on this list
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The program director has 2 different residency programs in Florida. Is that even legal? Lol and Keralty has 4 spots, other program has 1 spot! what i heard is that the director cares more about the 1 spot program. Plus terrible pay as well
 
AdrenalineJockie said:
The program director has 2 different residency programs in Florida. Is that even legal? Lol and Keralty has 4 spots, other program has 1 spot! what i heard is that the director cares more about the 1 spot program. Plus terrible pay as well
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I clerked with Dr Carbonell years ago. The rotation was after interviews so basically a nice vacation month for me, haha. He runs a really fast paced clinic so it was a good practice management elective for me. I didn't scrub a single case that month, not that I wanted to at that point.

Anyway, residents at Westchester hospital do ALL the woundcare. Translation, a 90 year old with alzheimers and decubitous heel ulcers on hospice needs her dressings changed everyday, guess whose job that's going to be? Have a nice 3 years...
 
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