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I find it quite funny that the people in this same thread, who are hating on Ivies, will in fact apply to top 10 and Ivy League medical schools, and if they get it in, they will stop hating, but if they don't, they will continue to be bitter.

 

[Classof2013PreM]

I find it quite funny that the people in this same thread, who are hating on Ivies, will in fact apply to top 10 and Ivy League medical schools, and if they get it in, they will stop hating, but if they don't, they will continue to be bitter.

THIS! hahaha, haterz gonna hate

 

[Narmerguy]

I find it quite funny that the people in this same thread, who are hating on Ivies, will in fact apply to top 10 and Ivy League medical schools, and if they get it in, they will stop hating, but if they don't, they will continue to be bitter.

I think this reveals part of the problem with this thread entirely. People are taking this way too personally. Very few people are "hating" on the ivies. It is not hating to state that going to an Ivy doesn't automatically mean my future is sealed, or my classmates could sleepwalk through any other school, or that I am more awesome than everyone else. That's not hating, that's me voicing what I believe to be a rational opinion.

Now, the question you have to ask yourselves is, if I believe that Ivy's don't assure their attendants domination of the world, is it a worthwhile place to go? Some decide yes, and still apply to these schools as you have suggested. Others decide no, and don't bother applying. Whether or not you attend a school does not mean you must be pigeon-holed into holding some absurdly radical belief about the school. It's OK to admit that you're school isn't the end all be all or that perhaps there are drawbacks that you suffer from going to your school that others don't have to deal with...But everyone feels the desire to defend their choices and the perceived attacks on their intellect so thus you get a 5+ page thread of bickering.

Finally, Ivy League undergraduates and Ivy League medical schools are very different beasts to argue and it seems weird to me that you suggest some link between the two. Some Ivy League undergraduate programs (Princeton) don't even have a medical school. Others (Brown, Dartmouth) aren't even that renowned. Don't confuse highly specialized professional training with the undergraduate experience.

 

[Classof2013PreM]

Finally, Ivy League undergraduates and Ivy League medical schools are very different beasts to argue and it seems weird to me that you suggest some link between the two. Some Ivy League undergraduate programs (Princeton) don't even have a medical school. Others (Brown, Dartmouth) aren't even that renowned. Don't confuse highly specialized professional training with the undergraduate experience.

i agree that people are definitely taking this issue too personally. however, i do not agree with your comment on how you cannot compare the desire to attend an ivy league/top ranked undergraduate university to an ivy league/top ranked medical school.

there is no doubt that the style of education is entirely different (highly specialized professional vs general education), but in the end of the day the same arguments that are being made now about undergrads may be made about medical schools.

ivy and top ranked medical schools do not guarantee success in the medical field. the level of education and training at at state school medical school is just as valid as the education and training at an ivy league/top ranked medical school.

so why do people want to go to these prestigious schools? Because there is an advantage to have the "ivy league/prestigious" name on your resume when looking for jobs in the future. that doesn't mean that being "ivy league" will open every door for you, but it does mean that you might sometimes be given a second look when applying for a job or graduate admission (whether you want to acknowledge that fact or not).

that is all.

now continue on rationalizing your choices of attending an ivy/state school

 

[FlowRate]

Intelligence is one of the most important factors that you would need to control for if that study is to mean anything. Intelligence is not measured by SAT, or GPA. But is IQ sufficient? Is anyone even measuring IQ's? We know all the trouble with trying to measure "intelligence." In almost any fashion.

Take a large sample of students who:
Were accepted to both Ivy League and State undergraduate universities (the students chose which school, as they had the option of either one)
and then sort by:
Performance in High School (GPA, SAT, ACT, etc.) and
Socioeconomic Factors (Race, Means, Location)
and then compare:
Measures of "Success" (Money earned, being the key factor in this particular example that I read)

If I remember correctly, there were not sufficiently appreciable differences in the two.


I go to an Ivy med school, it's not like I'm going to argue that Ivies are bad, or not worth it (heck, it was my cheapest option), or even that, in the realm of medical admissions, it's not conceivable that well-known top universities may help by virtue of name alone.

I think the point of what I remember reading was that the motivation and skills of the individuals are far more important than the simple factor of where they went to undergrad. State schools attract, on average, less impressive/competitive/skilled/motivated students based on the difference in goals and selection criteria. There will always be an inherent difference in students who chose one or the other.

 

[percy]

In actuality there are very few tangible benefits to going to an Ivy League caliber school. In all honest, I feel like people mostly go to Ivy League schools to feel special.

Whoa, bitter?

 

[rockafella12]

So how's FoCo treating you? 😀 I can't wait for the Rams to eat it next month against CU. (Sorry, Buffs fan here!)

Haha I'm torn because I go to State, but my mum is alum of Buffs... Not to mention the med-school is CU... So in that case... GO BUFFS! lol

 

[kpcrew]

I attend Harvard.

 

[Morsetlis]

I attend Harvard.

Do you know Latin too?

 

[rockafella12]

Do you know Latin too?

🤣

hm hm, haha, *sinches tie*