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[ThinkFast007]

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Uhhhh....

I like you, Think. But alotta times inexperienced people going into anesthesia say things they shouldnt.

You guys lack street credibility. More importantly, concerning administration of anesthetics in this country in non-academic settings, quite frankly, you have no idea what the f u ck you are talking about.

And Nite, you and I have had our battles.

At one point I wanted to rip your head off and s hit down your neck.

But you've made a turnaround lately (not that thats important to you, I realize).

Agree that now you are responding to hecklers.

I respect that.

And I agree with your post.

Too many non-experienced dudes talking trash that they have no business talking trash about.

And it kinda pains me to drop this post, cuz Think/Tough are along my blood lines.

But you guys are way outta line with your propeganda.

MDs are the kings. Agreed.

But CRNAs are well respected, needed professionals in the anesthesia arena.

Your posts show your ignorance/naietivity/inexperience.

I've gotta call a spade a spade, when necessary.

Nice post, Nite.

hahahaha...not you too! yo i can raise you whatever nite paid you to say that.

nah, hey cant argue with ya Jet...I know that, cuz you are absolutely right I've got no where near as much experience or credibility as you.

Hey we can each formulate our own opinions and have our innate differences. Perhaps we 'budding' guys see it differently. Perhaps our view has been influenced by those anesthesiologists, who like you have had years of experience, but have a different look on things. Again, different non-academic settings see it differently. Whatever you are doing is certainly workign for ya. so no hard feelings here.

but nite. and idio, please give me an informed business model of how anesthesiologists would not have to resort to accepting less pay...if their work could be easily done by a cheaper CRNA. also let's say the anesthesiologist CAN not move to podunct due to familial reasons.

 

[nitecap]

Anyways...coming from a CRNA, as long as it's not somethign educational related to anesthesia...nto really going to any attention to it.

I agree, the general public should get to know more about medicine. Doctors, believe it or not save lives and work hard. Yup four years of schooling my friend, that's four years plus residency to be proficient in medicine. See, the public doesnt realize that all that lawyers and midlevels love to do is squeeze the money out of hospitals and doctors. I agree, i wish the public found out about this. dude, nite you have issues my friend. issues that stem from an unconscious desire to be a doctor. dude, i bet 5 yrs ago your pathetic as s wouldnt be caught in a doctors lounge. luckily for you there's a place like this, where you can hide behind that screen and talk to doctors as if you were professionally equal. as a human being, sure we're equals...but as a doctor...or atleast one to be...you're still a nurse.

see unfortunately, the public thinks docs are all very rich. they think we dont need any more money. slowly, but surely heads are turning as they realize that doctors are not getting fairly compensated. but the thing is that everyone, even the lay ppl are concerned about making ends meet and making more money...they can care less whether their doctor is making money or not. Issues like Tort Reform are very important and should be made public. DOCTORs need to step up and ask for reform, rather make it happen.

Anyways....back to the original point i was making. There are young budding ppl in other career paths that have a very vested interest intheir profession's future, i think we ought to have that same mentality. I think we all need to understand that medicine is a business. Yes, i've been real lucky to work along side some great adminstrators and have learned alot. No I never made teh claim that i've learned it all...cuz it's impossible...but mr. CRNA better watch your back brotha, cuz once we learn the business...brother-man you'll finally be put back into your place.

Believe me I have several watching my back at all local, state and national levels of law making bodies. Hey i am all for tort reform and helped campaigne for it here and Texas and gladly it was passes. Yeah one thing physicians, nurses and other hlth care professions worked together to get something positive passed that will assist all of us.

And doctors arent the only people who save lives man, so please come down to earth man Dr. GOD. First responders, law enforcement, EMT's, paramedics, RN's, Fire fighters all play apart. This is not the hit series HOUSE man. Things are done as a team whether the different professions agree on political issues are not. The EMT's that stabelize in the street is just as impt as that ER doc that stabelizes in the ER and is just as impt as the trauma surgeon who removes a spleen and just as impt as his anesthesia provider,perfussionist that is spinning cells, radiologist that caught the bleed, OR staff, ICU staff that recovers the pt, PT/OT that assist the pt to regain functional ability. None of the many professions named can be missing to care for many of sick inpatients that we all see. And guess what all of us can be replaced by someone else willing to work more for less thats any business whether MD or janitor or cotton picker. you cant do it all man, you just cant and that is the mentality that you have. Yes your prob all reved up since you just matched and all congrats but in the real world practitioners across all spectrums depend on one another to do their part, optimize, treat, progress and send this cat home.


And five yeara ago i was working as a PCA in the OR and PACU actually trying to understand anesthesia, while you were probrably waiting tables at hooters or something and studying for MCAT. Yeah you are a fourth year med student congrats and good luck but anyhows I have spent way more time in the OR or even in a clinical setting period than you have. I dont know it all but I know what I see in mulitple real world settting both podunct community private facilities and large urban academic facilities. You have what, rounded in 2-4 hospitals and been in the OR a few times, and not to forget bent over the CEO's desk for a month and learned so much.

And please explain how midlevels are squeezing money out of hospitals and doctors. Here again is proof to show you havent a clue and must not e paying attention to the CEO you prob call daddy. Midlevels if anything increase the salaries of mst doctors that improve them, decrease work hours and call shifts and allow that doctor to be more profitable, productive and rested. If midlevels are taking money from doctors why would they hire them. Why would some big wig surgeons have 3 or 4 NP/PA. Il tell you why, they increase productivity, increase facility coverage, increase the number of pt he/she sees and increases salary at the end of the year oh and helps that group of anesthesiologist get that new exclusive contract from their competitors since they couldnt handle the volume. Man again your greenish shines.

 

[tkim]

i'm going to go ahead and close this before we bust out the chains and whips