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pgg said:
You think that because something hasn't happened in the last 30-odd years (maybe 70 in jwk's case 😉) it can't happen now?
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Touche -- you win. And, jwk is an old guy? Hmm, never knew.

btw folks, keep the gun pictures coming, I'm loving it! Hell of a lot more heat than light in this debate, but that doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile.
 
loveoforganic2 said:
If you can find me a legal full auto P90, I'd love to buy it off you 🙂
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What these ban-da-machineguns-derrr guys don't seem to get is that on the extremely rare occasion when an actual full-auto gun is used in a crime, it's a gun that's already illegal.

There are some NFA-registered, legal full-auto guns in the hands of US civilians. You can count on one hand the number of times one of these was used in a crime in the last seventy eight years since the NFA was passed. (And one of those instances was in 1934, by a police officer, no less.

There are ZERO legal full-auto P90s in civilian hands in the US. Zero. Nada. FN introduced the gun after the Hughes amendment closed the registry in 1986.

The one consistent facet of each of these threads is that the people who are the most strident, emotional advocates for stronger gun control
- don't know the difference between semi-auto and full-auto, or pretend not to when hyperbole is convenient
- don't know what's currently legal or illegal
- don't know what the last federal AWB did
- don't know what current state AWBs do
- don't know what the NFA covers and doesn't cover
- don't know what cosmetic features are banned or not banned

They think they're well informed, but they're not. (Just look at post 99 in this thread for one of a dozen classic examples.) Ignorance doesn't get in the way of strong opinions.
 
Not all of those links are about automatic weapons. Besides how would banning something that is already essentially banned from private ownership going to do anything? All of these criminals in the links were violating multiple existing gun laws. I'm starting to wonder what your motivation for posting here is. You are never going to medical school and you are never going to be an anesthesiologist. Is this just research for some project?
 
pgg said:
What these ban-da-machineguns-derrr guys don't seem to get is that on the extremely rare occasion when an actual full-auto gun is used in a crime, it's a gun that's already illegal.

There are some NFA-registered, legal full-auto guns in the hands of US civilians. You can count on one hand the number of times one of these was used in a crime in the last seventy eight years since the NFA was passed. (And one of those instances was in 1934, by a police officer, no less.

There are ZERO legal full-auto P90s in civilian hands in the US. Zero. Nada. FN introduced the gun after the Hughes amendment closed the registry in 1986.

The one consistent facet of each of these threads is that the people who are the most strident, emotional advocates for stronger gun control
- don't know the difference between semi-auto and full-auto, or pretend not to when hyperbole is convenient
- don't know what's currently legal or illegal
- don't know what the last federal AWB did
- don't know what current state AWBs do
- don't know what the NFA covers and doesn't cover
- don't know what cosmetic features are banned or not banned

They think they're well informed, but they're not. (Just look at post 99 in this thread for one of a dozen classic examples.) Ignorance doesn't get in the way of strong opinions.
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Hey PGG!

How's your Cons Law reading coming along?

Ok, now that THAT'S out of the way, I looooooooooove your little back-handed attempts at insults. Who cares that a gun is ALREADY illegal, lets stem the tide Chachi. When you treat a patient that is bleeding out, do you CARE who shot him/her, or do you STOP THE BLEEDING?

You are missing the entire point. If you think you need to know some technical difference between semi auto and auto, you are on crack.
I could care less how the hammer/trigger/system works. You know the difference between pulling trigger and having one bullet come out, or 50-100, and you are clinging to straws to defend your ridiculous, emotionally detached, 2nd amendment-and-nothing-else-exists mindset.

I'm well aware of the NFA, I don't CARE what's legal or not, efforts need to be made to curb this problem, redefine legal, and STOP THE PRODUCTION and IMPORT of these weapons. You guys are alllllllll the same, hanging on semantics and mechanisms of guns and the worst views and interpretations of data. Pathetic.

What do you goto the ATF website, read for 15 minutes and post here? Get over yourself.

There's a gun problem in the US. REcognize it and try to be part of the solution. (it'll make you a better person).

Long live the US Constitution!!!!!!! The LIVING document that it is.

D712
 
BobBarker said:
Not all of those links are about automatic weapons. Besides how would banning something that is already essentially banned from private ownership going to do anything? All of these criminals in the links were violating multiple existing gun laws. I'm starting to wonder what your motivation for posting here is. You are never going to medical school and you are never going to be an anesthesiologist. Is this just research for some project?
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

D712
 
doctor712 said:
I'm well aware of the NFA, I don't CARE what's legal or not, efforts need to be made to curb this problem, redefine legal, and STOP THE PRODUCTION and IMPORT of these weapons. You guys are alllllllll the same, hanging on semantics and mechanisms of guns and the worst views and interpretations of data. Pathetic.

What do you goto the ATF website, read for 15 minutes and post here? Get over yourself.

There's a gun problem in the US. REcognize it and try to be part of the solution. (it'll make you a better person).

Long live the US Constitution!!!!!!! The LIVING document that it is.

D712
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"Semantics matter...when writing." - D712

You said that in the other thread, won't a new law be written? So it matters, right? If it matters in an Atlantic article, surely it will matter in our country's laws?
 
pie944 said:
"Semantics matter...when writing." - D712

You said that in the other thread, won't a new law be written? So it matters, right? If it matters in an Atlantic article, surely it will matter in our country's laws?
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You're kidding, right? Please tell me this is your idea of a January 4th joke, or something.

Semantics DO matter. I was discussing WRITING. You know, SEMANTICS.

But since you're confused, allow me to elaborate: (just for fun, i know you don't give a **** and others read this just to pass the time)

When a writer writes a sucky first sentence, details, semantics matter.

Now please, translate that into you trying to wiggle the gun argument along the lines of some DEFINITION of automatic or semi automatic? Is there ANY CONFUSION when I post an AUTOMATIC P90 (or AR-15, AK47 etc) and that SEMI-AUTO pistol?

Are you confused? Does the definition REALLY need looking at?

If so, fair enough. Argue away. And please, please tell me you'd survive one on one in that hypothetical P90 (or AR-15) vs. LCP scenario. I want all the users to see you come out of that one saying the LCP is deadlier.

And when you don't, or cannot say that, your semantics go out the ****ing window.

Shameful. (you).

D712
 
doctor712 said:
How about you just answer my scenario... Pistol vs. AR-15/P90. Who you going to put your money on Organic?

More importantly, two people walk into school. Who kills more kids faster, or at all?

Exactly.

D712
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Look at it this way. Compare the number of firearm mass murders to all other murders. Now compare the difference in killing potential of mass murders with "assault weapons" to mass murders with other firearms. To answer your question unambiguously, a semi-automatic rifle will generally be a more effective killing tool than a pistol, but within a confined environment like a school going against unarmed individuals, the difference is minimal. The more relevant question is "Is it worth banning the most popular platform of long gun in order to reduce the nation's murder rate by maybe 50 per year?"

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BobBarker said:
You are how old? 40?
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Darling, Boobala, Tatala,

No, not yet. 😎

ADVISORY: Please, please please do not try to peg me from across the etherweb, you sound like a jackhole. And then I start to sound like a jackhole in replying to you. You're in the vast minority on this one. Deans, PDs, Attendings, Chairmen, PP guys, residents, fellows and many here on SDN are all awaiting my start date. Get lost.

You're just a young punk of a resident still trying to learn about life in your late 20s. I get it.
I sucked on the tit for a while too.

Not going to get into a flame war with you over this. I'll see you at ASA and IARS later this year. Gimme a shout when you're there, and I'll bring my 6''4'' self over to greet you. That is, if you can get someone to cover your shift with your Chief's/Mom's approval. That is, if you have a paper or abstract or book worthy of discussion, which I doubt.

D712
 
loveoforganic2 said:
Look at it this way. Compare the number of firearm mass murders to all other murders. Now compare the difference in killing potential of mass murders with "assault weapons" to mass murders with other firearms. To answer your question unambiguously, a semi-automatic rifle will generally be a more effective killing tool than a pistol, but within a confined environment like a school going against unarmed individuals, the difference is minimal. The more relevant question is "Is it worth banning the most popular platform of long gun in order to reduce the nation's murder rate by maybe 50 per year?"

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(LOOK UP IN WHITE PEOPLE) Ooooooh, just caught that... funny...and incorrect.... HAHAHA.

Fair enough and a thoughtful reply. So I'll do the same, that "minimal" difference bothers me. Yes. That minimal difference (if you're right, and I disagree, but let's say) is what kills 20 kids as opposed to 19 or 10. I would like to get rid of that minimal difference, and I think the Constitution should not protect that minimal difference under the 2nd amendment. Fair enough? That's my take. Further, you are correct, the stats are clear: more people die from pistols, probably in days to weeks in the US as compared to a year of deaths via mass killings in the US, every year. That's ANOTHER problem. We are on the same page? That is a harder problem to solve under the 2nd amendment because I believe that people do have a right to arm themselves, within reason (that's where SCOTUS comes in). I see no reason, whatsoever, to own an AR-15. Why? Go back to my hypothetical and also go back to the trend of mass murders last year alone. This country needs to look at its love of the 2nd amendment and decide: is it THAT important and widespread to cover such insane weapons? PGG lives by this mantra. I don't. And therein lies the rub. And time will show us to what direction the US people (i.e. SCOTUS' combined brain power) will take us. My sense is the tide is changing, and that's a good thing. So, two major problems 1) production and import of LEGAL weapons that can be readily made to go full auto and/or carry drums/insane LCMs. The data show, and our common sense should show, 2nd amendment aside, think physics here, these kill quick, fast, and in mass means. 2) pistol deaths and the gun mentality in the US, accidental or not, gangs or domestic dispute, it's too much, we are EONS ahead of our "competition here". Not sure how to control #2 as much as #1, but i would say there are ways, better ways. Let's be honest, PGG doesn't live in a hood where there are corner shootings 5 nights a week. That's the irony, he can buy out of that problem, so can I. So, he's one of those George Carlin NIMBY peeps. But many people, cannot. And only wished they could. If you cannot make sense of this, I don't know what to tell you (whenever I use that phrase, I don't know what to tell you, I cannot help but think back to that CINEMATIC masterpiece of a film, No Country For Old Men, and the gas station scene with Javier and the Dude. "If you don't want to accept that, I don't know what to tell you." Or something like that.

Will there be anything else, 🙂 (another great line!)
D712
 
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BobBarker said:
Compare the number of home swimming pool drownings to mas shooting deaths. Ban all swimming pools!
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Typical NRA reply.

Yawn.

BUT here's an idea: regulate swimming pool fences in homes with young children. Oh wait...

http://www.dos.ny.gov/DCEA/pools.htm

Now, the reply, "Waaaa waaaaa waaaaa, they are invading my privacy and my beloved Constitution.... waaa waaa waaaa." Doesn't really happen. Unless you are a gun zealot that treats the 2nd amendment like a religion/bible. No proof, no data, no common sense, NO BENDING OR AMENDMENTS, just faith, And a piece of paper.

D712
 
Trying to intimidate me physically over the Internet? Funny, not working. When is your nationally anticipated start date?
 
BobBarker said:
Trying to intimidate me physically over the Internet? Funny, not working. When is your nationally anticipated start date?
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Intimidate you? The one and only BOB BARKER?!?!?!!?!? :laugh::laugh:
Impossible! You're a RESIDENTTTT!!! ****ting on other people's aims.
A new low for the one and only BOB BARKER!!!!!!

You have Loooooooots of growing up to do, Sweat Pea. I'd get on that. It'll make
you a better doc. Your mommy and daddy will be prouder too.

My nationally anticipated start date: **** you. Jot that date down. That's for friends and family and the few on SDN who actually care to know. When are you planning on passing Step 3, or asking for your vacation to be approved, or getting a paper published so you can match into that fellowship you so DEARLY DREAM of and lose sleep over. I'll be on the slopes.

This is where I duck away from your BS so I don't get flagged, banned, yelled at etc. etc.

Enjoy the rest of your residency, my little youthful friend with a complex.

😍,
D712
 
doctor712 said:
You're kidding, right? Please tell me this is your idea of a January 4th joke, or something.

Semantics DO matter. I was discussing WRITING. You know, SEMANTICS.

But since you're confused, allow me to elaborate: (just for fun, i know you don't give a **** and others read this just to pass the time)

When a writer writes a sucky first sentence, details, semantics matter.

Now please, translate that into you trying to wiggle the gun argument along the lines of some DEFINITION of automatic or semi automatic? Is there ANY CONFUSION when I post an AUTOMATIC P90 (or AR-15, AK47 etc) and that SEMI-AUTO pistol?

Are you confused? Does the definition REALLY need looking at?

If so, fair enough. Argue away. And please, please tell me you'd survive one on one in that hypothetical P90 (or AR-15) vs. LCP scenario. I want all the users to see you come out of that one saying the LCP is deadlier.

And when you don't, or cannot say that, your semantics go out the ****ing window.

Shameful. (you).

D712
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I don't think I wrote my prior post with enough clarification, but no need to blow up. 🙂

I was talking about the use of the phrase 'assault weapon,' not automatic vs semi automatic.
 
pie944 said:
I don't think I wrote my prior post with enough clarification, but no need to blow up. 🙂

I was talking about the use of the phrase 'assault weapon,' not automatic vs semi automatic.
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Pie944, my apologies!!! I was responding so quickly, I saw PGG not PIE, my fault. Sorry to be so harsh, not at all intended to you.

D712
 
Would you attempt to attack a school if there were several of these protecting it?

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doctor712 said:
Pie944, my apologies!!! I was responding so quickly, I saw PGG not PIE, my fault. Sorry to be so harsh, not at all intended to you.

D712
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Drop the whole armed guards at every school thing. It's fiscally irresponsible
 
loveoforganic2 said:
Drop the whole armed guards at every school thing. It's fiscally irresponsible
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Allowing mass murders to increase and gun violence to remain is morally and socially irresponsible. What's worse fiscal irresponsibility or moral and social irresponsibility?

That said, I think armed guards are not a bad idea altogether.

Not sure I want this Calvary Joe looking dude at school when I pull up, but you know what, the choice between a Mass Murderer or Joe the Marine, I'll take Joe the Marine. It's a little
surprising when you travel the world and see the machine gun dude at the airport, cafe, soccer game, government building, sort of like NYC post 9/11, but the surprise goes away after a while.

D712
 
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I guess your prediction was wrong organic, huh. Kinda cute though...

D712
 
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doctor712 said:
Allowing mass murders to increase and gun violence to remain is morally and socially irresponsible. What's worse fiscal irresponsibility or moral and social irresponsibility?

That said, I think armed guards are not a bad idea altogether.

Not sure I want this Calvary Joe looking dude at school when I pull up, but you know what, the choice between a Mass Murderer or Joe the Marine, I'll take Joe the Marine.

D712
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Just going to focus on the armed guards thing here....

There are ~100k public schools. Putting just 1 guard in each would represent, quite literally, billions of dollars of public money just for salary (without playing the guessing game of other costs they could accrue).

Even if there were 1000 kids a year murdered in school, and those guards were able to prevent every single one, it would be at a cost of millions of dollars per kid
 
doctor712 said:
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I guess your prediction was wrong organic, huh. Kinda cute though...

D712[/QUOTE]

Took me a minute to put this together 😀 Yes I was wrong that time 🙂
 
doctor712 said:
Darling, Boobala, Tatala,

No, not yet. 😎

ADVISORY: Please, please please do not try to peg me from across the etherweb, you sound like a jackhole. And then I start to sound like a jackhole in replying to you. You're in the vast minority on this one. Deans, PDs, Attendings, Chairmen, PP guys, residents, fellows and many here on SDN are all awaiting my start date. Get lost.

You're just a young punk of a resident still trying to learn about life in your late 20s. I get it.
I sucked on the tit for a while too.

Not going to get into a flame war with you over this. I'll see you at ASA and IARS later this year. Gimme a shout when you're there, and I'll bring my 6''4'' self over to greet you. That is, if you can get someone to cover your shift with your Chief's/Mom's approval. That is, if you have a paper or abstract or book worthy of discussion, which I doubt.

D712
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Jesus Christ. A more egotistical post could not be written. I hope you don't end up at my program. Have some respect.
 
Per4mer8,

On an internet board, respect is earned:

BobBarker said:
You are never going to medical school and you are never going to be an anesthesiologist. Is this just research for some project?
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Come hang out with me and my resident/fellow (or any other) friends. Where mutual respect is never an issue...

D712
 
doctor712 said:
Allowing mass murders to increase and gun violence to remain is morally and socially irresponsible. What's worse fiscal irresponsibility or moral and social irresponsibility?
D712
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Fiscal irresponsibility is worse by far. The inability to accept some (perceived) moral and social injustices to allow the next generation to have a relatively balanced/clean slate is the reason why our Congress is the worst in history. If x% of the poor have to go without medical care and Y% of the elderly have to undergo death councils to control our out of control skyrocketing debt so that our grandkids aren't born enslaved to China, then I call that a necessary evil.
 
doctor712 said:
Per4mer8,

On an internet board, respect is earned:



Come hang out with me and my resident/fellow (or any other) friends. Where mutual respect is never an issue...

D712
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All I'm saying is you have a massive ego for someone who hasn't attained 1/2 of what the other members of this board have. I'm sure you are a darling sitcom writer, I honestly hope you are, good for you. I'm sure you hypocritically write about violence etc to appease your network clients.... But respect those that have done and are doing that which you HOPE to one day do. The jests about asking a chief for vacation etc is a little ridiculous coming from someone who hasn't even matriculated yet. You have a long way to go, you have to get in to medschool, do well enough to even match into Anesthesia etc. And if you think there isn't at least one PD on this board for every one you claim is awaiting your start date that doesn't want to match a guy as divisive and narcissistic as you are you're naive.

I like debate, I'm a huge fan of listening to both sides but your tactics are often times tactless and as tangential as those that you criticize. I also truly enjoy your mentor Jet who is undoubtedly the PP guy you speak of. I'm just saying show respect for the guys DOING this work and be careful, you're larger than life persona will be seen coming a mile away come interview time.
 
How is a statement of fact have anything to do with a lack of respect? You are around 40. You didn't apply to medical school this year. You have a cush lifestyle. You would be around 50 when you graduate residency. You bill yourself as a doctor already so what is the point of actually going to medical school. The most likely you will get is being the guy that got into medical school but didn't go because he has such a nice lifestyle as it is. And talks about it all the time! All of your friends will call you "Doc" because you are basically a doctor. You hang out with multiple chairmen, nationwide! You got into medical school! You remind me so much of a device rep.
 
glorfindel said:
Without wholly endorsing it, this is a pretty thoughtful article; I do think ol' Sam Harris is a solid guy.

Tangentially, I am disappointed by this: " For instance, it is estimated that 100,000 Americans die each year because doctors and nurses fail to wash their hands properly."

Sam, Sam.... this is a problem of a completely different order of magnitude and character. No one who isn't already very tenuous dies because the doc didn't wash his/her hands properly. These deaths are not "excess" deaths, like the deaths caused by firearms are. If those 100,000 hadn't died from dirty doctor hands, they'd have died from their underlying severe illness and poor health, because of some other minor perturbation.

I'm reminded of the Institute of Medicine's "To Err is Human", and their analogizing the patients "killed" by medical error to the deaths of a 747s worth of passengers in a plane crash, every day!

It's a misleading comparison that confuses the issue.
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I felt similarly about the article. With slight modification, it's something I could completely endorse and be happy to spread around as representing my opinion. I felt the majority of it was exceptionally well written. Having read it a while ago, I may be misremembering, but I believe the author also endorsed the armed guard deal for schools, which was my big turn off.
 
Per4mer8 said:
All I'm saying is you have a massive ego for someone who hasn't attained 1/2 of what the other members of this board have. I'm sure you are a darling sitcom writer, I honestly hope you are, good for you. I'm sure you hypocritically write about violence etc to appease your network clients.... But respect those that have done and are doing that which you HOPE to one day do. The jests about asking a chief for vacation etc is a little ridiculous coming from someone who hasn't even matriculated yet. You have a long way to go, you have to get in to medschool, do well enough to even match into Anesthesia etc. And if you think there isn't at least one PD on this board for every one you claim is awaiting your start date that doesn't want to match a guy as divisive and narcissistic as you are you're naive.

I like debate, I'm a huge fan of listening to both sides but your tactics are often times tactless and as tangential as those that you criticize. I also truly enjoy your mentor Jet who is undoubtedly the PP guy you speak of. I'm just saying show respect for the guys DOING this work and be careful, you're larger than life persona will be seen coming a mile away come interview time.
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Per4mer8,

I know exactly what you meant, I was crystal clear.

You know what's equally ridiculous, from someone who HAS matriculated, is a resident (i.e. Mr. Bob Barker), showing his future colleagues and maybe employers that he likes to **** on writers who are endeavoring to get into his field, by acting 4. That's pretty ridiculous to me. You want me to respect the Doctor Bob Barker? Please have him respect the writer and father and elder D712. This ISN'T THE OR, ER, HOSPITAL. This is an anonymous BLOG. Sorry.

Narcissistic? Moi? Hahaha. Jet is an amazing guy, let's leave him out of this. And he wasn't the PP guy I was thinking of when I wrote my smarmy reply to the arrogant resident who enjoys putting people down that are 15yrs? his elder, a parent, and gainfully employed elsewhere.

You know where/when this started P48? With Bob Barker getting personal with me. Remember that. Sorry you were offended by my equally cunty reply, it wasn't aimed at ALL residents.

Moving on, don't wanna get banned!!! Again.

re: My ego, you couldn't be more wrong, I just reply in kind, whatever.

Like I said before, this is a BLOG, respect is mutual. Or it doesn't exist. I am EXCEPTIONALLY respectful of 99% of the Drs. here.

And you're going to come over here and PREACH to me all the while crapping on my writing, saying it's hypocritical, while you don't know the least about my writing, IRONIC me thinks. Follow your own advice. Really. Your words fall silent when they surround themselves with insults. Trust me.

Cheers,
D712
 
chessknt87 said:
Fiscal irresponsibility is worse by far. The inability to accept some (perceived) moral and social injustices to allow the next generation to have a relatively balanced/clean slate is the reason why our Congress is the worst in history. If x% of the poor have to go without medical care and Y% of the elderly have to undergo death councils to control our out of control skyrocketing debt so that our grandkids aren't born enslaved to China, then I call that a necessary evil.
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That's one thoughtful opinion Chess. I haven't come to my conclusion just yet.

D712
 
BobBarker said:
How is a statement of fact...
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BobBarker said:
You are never going to medical school and you are never going to be an anesthesiologist. Is this just research for some project?
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If you cannot tell the difference between an asinine future prediction of yours, and a statement of fact, then please, submit yourself for help. Quickly.

Look, when you cannot convey what you want very well on the page, or in person surely, one tends to go low. I get it. It's what you are capable of. Now please, before we get banned...

D712
 
doctor712 said:
Hey PGG!


There's a gun problem in the US. REcognize it and try to be part of the solution. (it'll make you a better person).

D712
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No, there is no gun problem in the U.S. Recognize this and try not to show your persistent ignorance of the scientifically proven fact that gun bans do not make a difference, or even make the issue worse, since they disarm the law abiding citizens and do not affect the criminals. ( it'll make you a better medical student, resident and doctor)

😀
 
hoyden said:
No, there is no gun problem in the U.S. Recognize this and try not to show your persistent ignorance of the scientifically proven fact that gun bans do not make a difference, or even make the issue worse, since they disarm the law abiding citizens and do not affect the criminals. ( it'll make you a better medical student, resident and doctor)

😀
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Meh.

😀

D712
 
doctor712 said:
Per4mer8,

I know exactly what you meant, I was crystal clear.

You know what's equally ridiculous, from someone who HAS matriculated, is a resident (i.e. Mr. Bob Barker), showing his future colleagues and maybe employers that he likes to **** on writers who are endeavoring to get into his field, by acting 4. That's pretty ridiculous to me. You want me to respect the Doctor Bob Barker? Please have him respect the writer and father and elder D712. This ISN'T THE OR, ER, HOSPITAL. This is an anonymous BLOG. Sorry.

Narcissistic? Moi? Hahaha. Jet is an amazing guy, let's leave him out of this. And he wasn't the PP guy I was thinking of when I wrote my smarmy reply to the arrogant resident who enjoys putting people down that are 15yrs? his elder, a parent, and gainfully employed elsewhere.

You know where/when this started P48? With Bob Barker getting personal with me. Remember that. Sorry you were offended by my equally cunty reply, it wasn't aimed at ALL residents.

Moving on, don't wanna get banned!!! Again.

re: My ego, you couldn't be more wrong, I just reply in kind, whatever.

Like I said before, this is a BLOG, respect is mutual. Or it doesn't exist. I am EXCEPTIONALLY respectful of 99% of the Drs. here.

And you're going to come over here and PREACH to me all the while crapping on my writing, saying it's hypocritical, while you don't know the least about my writing, IRONIC me thinks. Follow your own advice. Really. Your words fall silent when they surround themselves with insults. Trust me.

Cheers,
D712
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I think you should take the LSAT instead. You can certainly talk in circles without saying ANYTHING. I'm also not sure I agree being a few years older, with kids, and "gainfully employed" (like we all aren't or haven't been?) means you can throw disrespect or expect a resident to concede your dominance :/. You will have attendings younger than you and it will get you in trouble. And you're right, I don't know you in person so I'll soften my narcisist idea but I will say this; when half of your statements allude to the many execs, Feds, PDs, attendings, residents, or fellows that you know you come off as braggadocious vs insecure, pick the "Internet BLOG" persona you prefer.
 
D712 , totally off-top, why didn't you apply last year? I am not that often here so if you described that I just missed.
My question is only because from my own experience I can tell you - if you really want to do that, act fast. Time is running and it is not that easy to go through an army-like training when you are 15+ years older than the crowd and accomplished. And I did not have to go through medical school, only through residency which is minus 4 years grilling time 😀
 
hoyden said:
D712 , totally off-top, why didn't you apply last year? I am not that often here so if you described that I just missed.
My question is only because from my own experience I can tell you - if you really want to do that, act fast. Time is running and it is not that easy to go through an army-like training when you are 15+ years older than the crowd and accomplished. And I did not have to go through medical school, only through residency which is minus 4 years grilling time 😀
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Hoyden,

I hear you, and I hear your advice. Others here, namely BLADE, have suggested the same thing. And believe me, it's like a ticking biological clock to me every single day. So, advice taken and I am 100% on top of it. Mentally. Physically. Financially. Chronologically. Grammatically. (pseudo stolen from Jack Sparrow).

I have to say, it's nice to put the BS aside and have a real conversation every now and then.

I didn't apply last year for personal reasons, the shortest possible and publishable explanation was the need to just get away from Florida, to a place where I'd be happier, and work non-stop for a year prior to MD school. Splitting the writing career with medicine (FT research work) and FT studying for MCAT was hurting all of the above. Aim was to stash away a bunch and start thereafter, so I can be a productive M-1. 2012 was really a year to decide to stay in writing or do this medicine thing once and for all. 2013 is about writing scripts to explicitly fund the MD school account, and get into MD school.

It's not easy and I know it won't be easy post-call at 44, trying to moonlight to support family, study, be a resident, dad, so I'm on it! Hurry hurry hurry!

Thanks, (seriously)
D712
 
Per4mer8 said:
I think you should take the LSAT instead. You can certainly talk in circles without saying ANYTHING. I'm also not sure I agree being a few years older, with kids, and "gainfully employed" (like we all aren't or haven't been?) means you can throw disrespect or expect a resident to concede your dominance :/. You will have attendings younger than you and it will get you in trouble. And you're right, I don't know you in person so I'll soften my narcisist idea but I will say this; when half of your statements allude to the many execs, Feds, PDs, attendings, residents, or fellows that you know you come off as braggadocious vs insecure, pick the "Internet BLOG" persona you prefer.
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P48,

Advice regarding the confines of the walls of the hospital is always appreciated, though regarding my level of respect, just isn't needed. All other advice: bring it! I am happy and respectful to my much younger resident, fellow - and frigging attending - friends. If not totally ****ing envious.

No thanks on the LSAT thing though!

My dad's a retired Fed, is that really bragging? 🙂 Sort of just pulling facts. Now if he were CIA... 😀

All I have to answer the critics about my attitude (not that i need to) on this anonymous forum, is that in "real life" I have an army of supporters, so I don't really mind what BB thinks. That just makes me proud as ****, not a braggart.

D712
 
Bob Barker,

Be a better human.

Love,
D712
 
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Doctor 7XX,

Just pull the trigger and apply. BTW - thanks for the sat entertainment lol. This thread was amusing.
 
doctor712 said:
Another day, another shooting in Colorado... four or five dead. It'll take the UK about 6-8 months to reach that many gun deaths this year, total.

And in Detroit, they have hit a two decade people in murders:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...etroit-records-deadliest-year-in-decades?lite

But no gun problem, nope status quo is A-O-K.

D712
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cdn.localwireless.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=1001&nid=942458961&cid=63&scid=-1&checksum=3418988814

Funny how this stuff never gets on the evening news.
 
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doctor712 said:
Hoyden,

I hear you, and I hear your advice. Others here, namely BLADE, have suggested the same thing. And believe me, it's like a ticking biological clock to me every single day. So, advice taken and I am 100% on top of it. Mentally. Physically. Financially. Chronologically. Grammatically. (pseudo stolen from Jack Sparrow).

I have to say, it's nice to put the BS aside and have a real conversation every now and then.

I didn't apply last year for personal reasons, the shortest possible and publishable explanation was the need to just get away from Florida, to a place where I'd be happier, and work non-stop for a year prior to MD school. Splitting the writing career with medicine (FT research work) and FT studying for MCAT was hurting all of the above. Aim was to stash away a bunch and start thereafter, so I can be a productive M-1. 2012 was really a year to decide to stay in writing or do this medicine thing once and for all. 2013 is about writing scripts to explicitly fund the MD school account, and get into MD school.

It's not easy and I know it won't be easy post-call at 44, trying to moonlight to support family, study, be a resident, dad, so I'm on it! Hurry hurry hurry!

Thanks, (seriously)
D712
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Well, the funding is really important. Good luck and enjoy whatever you do 👍
 
IlDestriero said:
Come on man. Nearly all of the urban street crime homicides are with small illegally obtained hand guns.
Blame the parents for being deadbeats and fµck ups that raised a couple generations of sociopaths.
And rap.
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I totally agree, illegally obtained handguns, I wasn't arguing the assault weapon thing with this post...

btw, where on your keyboard did you grab that mu from? I can't find it...

D712
 
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