which college has good premed programs?

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lol how can you give hopkins a thumbs down?

I'm not giving Hop a thumbs down. I am just saying that his reasoning was a little off. All those schools are amazing schools...but I think many people get a little caught up on one aspect of a school and forget about all other components.
 
Because going to any school because of boasted acceptance rates is a pretty bad reason to begin with.

oh no doubt that shouldn't be the sole reason you go to ANY school. hopkins isn't for everyone but i took the great premed program into consideration as well as many other factors before choosing to attend. The OP should definitely check it out.
 
Of course that's no reason to GO to a school. I just wanted to mention that to give some perspective that a place like Hopkins, a famous medical center, is not necessarily the way to go for undergrad. I was pushing Haverford because, well, think of it this way: you'll be spending the rest of your life at bigger schools and medical centers, so why not enjoy undergrad at a small liberal arts school where you'll get more attention and be challenged more individually?
 
OP, if you haven't already considered it take a look at Duke. It has one of the best respected Premeds schools (maybe the most at least in South) in the country and the students here are really happy and cooperative. Anyways I am just mentioning it since you wrote Emory and I would say if your considering there then you should consider Duke.
 
I've gleaned over what everyone has posted, and while I would love to toot my own program, I wanted to give a few pointers which have guided me to set up my office the way I have.

1) Access and role of prehealth advisor or committee. If you don't find at least a website about health professions advising, you can infer how important advising premeds really is at a school (and sometimes you'd guess wrong but in an era that everyone has a website...). The other threads talk about how important it is to have a committee letter, but it's also important to know how active the prehealth advisor and committee is to keeping students informed throughout an undergraduate or postbaccalaureate education.

Rules of thumb: Stay away from asking for percentage of people who got into medical school; the answer I give is much more complicated (do you mean allopathic, osteopathic, dental, postbac, high-achievers, ... ?) even though I do provide some data on my website. Pet peeve: please do not ask me about "how to switch from biology to premed" as a major. Most advisors who do have websites expect you to have read and understood the entire website, and I clearly will not schedule appointments with anyone who says, "I want to talk about something with you" if it's clear the person had not checked the website. (Sure, I could use a lot of reorganization, but in the end, you are responsible for the knowledge, and I can't help you learn how to tie your shoes if I gave you instruction on that.)

2) Volunteering and clinical opportunities, especially in rural or urban areas in the US or perhaps opportunities abroad. I cannot emphasize how important this is to an application. It's always easy for some students to choose a school that's got a hospital right next door. Then the challenge is to see how much initiative you have to go beyond the convenience of your doorstep. For students at smaller liberal arts schools, there aren't as many convenient opportunities, so you have to learn to make opportunities for yourself. And to me, that scores points for perseverance, planning, and diligence. But an awareness of and education about the health and societal needs of the underserved will broaden your vision to how much health care is sorely needed.

Unlike many other programs, I don't organize a volunteering or shadowing program (though I advertise the contact information). I'm close enough to DC that there are plenty of opportunities, and I would rather my students choose what they want to do for themselves. You're adults, and I'd need to be paid more and have an extra 20 hours added to a day to get that done right.

3) Support networks. How active is the premed club, predental club, and so on? What are their service opportunities that they're proud of? Who do they advertise as recruiters coming to their campuses? Do they have connections to students who got in and those who did not (but might reapply)?

4) Research opportunities... sort of. You need connections, and research is one great way to get connected to cutting-edge breakthroughs that could guide your practice in the future. But social science research/clinical research is also very valuable. Don't hesitate to get your feet wet in the difficulties of doing human subjects research.

And for the record, I went to Duke as a premed, and I think I turned out pretty well. 🙂
 
OP, if you haven't already considered it take a look at Duke. It has one of the best respected Premeds schools (maybe the most at least in South) in the country and the students here are really happy and cooperative. Anyways I am just mentioning it since you wrote Emory and I would say if your considering there then you should consider Duke.

and he/she will be in the hole $160,000 unecessarily
 
and he/she will be in the hole $160,000 unecessarily

Then there's the med school debt, and I think sometimes people might hit a cap on how much they can take out in loans.
 
and he/she will be in the hole $160,000 unecessarily

Duke has generous Finaid, I received double the Finaid there then I did at Emory (nearly a full scholarship) and I know many people who did as well. I still don't really see much of a cost difference between Duke and most of the other schools on the list aside from Rice (instate) and Haverford (because I have no idea where/what that is).
 
Duke has generous Finaid, I received double the Finaid there then I did at Emory (nearly a full scholarship) and I know many people who did as well. I still don't really see much of a cost difference between Duke and most of the other schools on the list aside from Rice (instate) and Haverford (because I have no idea where/what that is).

huhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Rice is no state school:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Not to get into school wars...but Rice is known for getting the best education bang for your buck

Rice gave me a much better fin aid package than Duke...hence the reason why I attended Rice.

And I think the Rice/Baylor arrangement is basically DOPE!!!!!!!! IT'S BANANAS MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN!!!:laugh:
 
For what it's worth, Duke just switched pre-health advisors. Dean Singer left to focus on developing VirtualEvals, which I think she co-founded. The current applying class had an interim dean, and there's a new permanent guy now, so there's no telling what'll happen. In terms of percentage of applying seniors getting in, Duke hasn't fallen below 80% since 1998.

Duke's financial aid is alright, but at ~40K a year your debt will be very high compared to other schools, and they definitely can't beat Rice's tuition.
 
For what it's worth, Duke just switched pre-health advisors. Dean Singer left to focus on developing VirtualEvals, which I think she co-founded. The current applying class had an interim dean, and there's a new permanent guy now, so there's no telling what'll happen. In terms of percentage of applying seniors getting in, Duke hasn't fallen below 80% since 1998.

Duke's financial aid is alright, but at ~40K a year your debt will be very high compared to other schools, and they definitely can't beat Rice's tuition.

Dean Singer rocked. Many of the schools I interviewed at asked me about her. I think she really helped Duke's premed advising and image in front of medical schools and AAMC, but I don't know what will happen with her gone. By the way, Duke's financial aid department is very variable. I got a terrible counselor so I never got finaid even with my appeals, but some of my friends got better people and fared well.
 
Of course that's no reason to GO to a school. I just wanted to mention that to give some perspective that a place like Hopkins, a famous medical center, is not necessarily the way to go for undergrad. I was pushing Haverford because, well, think of it this way: you'll be spending the rest of your life at bigger schools and medical centers, so why not enjoy undergrad at a small liberal arts school where you'll get more attention and be challenged more individually?

what do you consider to be a "big" school? i consider hopkins small compared to some of the other schools i looked at and professors are always more than happy to help out a student one on one. and i dont understand how you'd be "challenged more indvidually". please elaborate.

edit: damnit i always come off sounding like a jerk but i dont mean to i'm just interested in everyone else's college experiences lol
 
seems to be a bit of a useless thread, no?

get a degree in something you enjoy, in case you don't get in to medical school. You won't be hating on everyone forever.
 
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