Who's going to RCSI?

[Sage880]

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Medicine is about getting what you put into it. I enjoy my school and I'm happy I'm going here.

Fact: The tests here are much easier then the tests at American med schools. I do as many of the on-line tests as I can find on American med school's web sites and they're much harder then what we do. That being said, they're still not that hard.

But, since I know that, I just work harder then the standard to get an H1 here because I know I'm preparing for the boards as my end goal.

Also, I still haven't found one thing yet in med school that was so hard I couldn't learn it from a text book. So I'm basically paying $25,000 a year to get someone to schedule my studying. If I could find a cheaper school, I would have gone to it. The fact that RCSI uses scare tatics about residency places to bully insecure American students into paying their outrageous fees annoys me. I was a total jerk to the interviewer from RCSI and I still got accepted just because the only question he asked me that made any difference was if my parents could afford it.

RCSI is a fine school. They are certainly not 50% better then any other Irish med school though. If you only get accepted there and can afford it then great, you'll do fine in the end. But if you get accepted anywhere else, send RCSI a message and take the cheaper route. Trust me, it will all work out the same for you in the end. Probably even better.

 

[r3boot]

Choda,rcsi'09 under your nick.

does that mean you graduate in 2009 ?

if so then you haven't started clincal and haven't done the communation skills crap yet. Infact you will have only used the stethiscope in that one physiology tutorial on cardiovascular disease. So both of your stories would have been made up or "borrowed" from someone else.

and unless you went for the 6 year program (with premed, which I agree is just there to make you fork out another 30k) you will have been at rcsi for less than a year.

I agree certain members of staff are set in their ways and its porbably not the pbest college in the world but I'd be very hard pressed to call it the worst. I've actually found my 4 years there pretty OK on the whole but something tells me that I'm one of the very few .

Anyway this thread is getting rediculous.

 

[Ratan1982]

none of this surprises me about RCSI. it seems a bit pompous to hold an interview in a classy place like the Palace in San Francisco and the Sheraton in New York, when its not even a first run medical school. This seems to be the school's M.O. That basically students mean nothing and the artifice of class and glamour is everything

the school reminds me of an old lady sipping cocktails who is oblivious that her mansion has gone into disrepair, cats running around, walls broken....

 

[GDM]

How easy or hard is it to get a place in RCSI as a mature graduate student in comparison to let's say TCD,UCD,UCC etc.
I know someone that lectures there so maybe that'll help 😉

 

[Jammer]

You should not insult a person who is trying to explain the value of education by differences.I think his article is very attractive and you just jellish because you could not get into RCSI.And you an't no Yale graduate,maybe hoosier university

The 'difference' between RCSI and reputable medical schools is that RCSI does not recognize the value of medical education in a medical school curriculum whereas other reputable medical schools make medical education their first priority.

Kuralia, if you are currently in medical school in Ireland, I suggest that you take one year off to repeat your leaving certificates because your command of the english language is appalling. If you don't rectafy this, you will probably be in the position of defendant in a malpractice suit sometime in the near future.

 

[Jammer]

How easy or hard is it to get a place in RCSI as a mature graduate student in comparison to let's say TCD,UCD,UCC etc.
I know someone that lectures there so maybe that'll help 😉

Avoid RCSI like it was the plague!!! Do whatever you have to do in order to get into one of the other Irish medical schools, but do not go to RCSI. The only thing that RCSI will provide you with is five years of despair and a lifetime of regret.

 

[PBateman]

PBateman,

Props dude, very funny guy...I actually go to RCSI and I wouldn't be able to put things as you did. Despite what others say, you are right about a lot of things. RCSI is definately a second-class institution, which attempts to market itself as a world-class medical school...but yet...the reality is far from that. I also agree with Jammer: RCSI is out to get your money, and they have very little respect, and little patience for students like us who would like to address the shortcomings of this school to make this a better place.

PBateman, I must agree with you, there are LOTS of people in our class who can neither read, nor write english... How a lot of people end up in this school? sure beats the hell out of me.

Do i feel i'm getting my 35,000 euro worth at this school? F*ck no. But, it sure beats being a stable-boy at PBateman's ranch in the hamptons. Last time i was there his mom wanted me to lube up their horse's penis because the bi-weekly three-way with Jr. and Sr. just wasn't satisfying enough.



yours in all manner of bukake,
choda

Choda!

Yale could use a man like you! You shoot from the hip and you named names! Unlike the rest of the RCSI students, you have demonstrated that you have a pair! Most importantly, you seem to need to get away from the RCSI because of the lack of hard-bodies. Forget about board scores, letters of reference or grades. As far as I am concerned, you are admitted to Yale.

We'll send you a 1st class ticket from Dublin to NY. In the meantime, send me your measurements, so we can get an Armani suit and non-prescription Oliver Peoples eye glasses for you. Be ready to work hard. As hard working young doctors, our typical day starts with rounds at Scores, the most famous nudie bar in New York city. We generally make a mess of the place and ridicule the cellulite laden mothers of RCSI students who are desperately trying to work off their childrens' tuition bills by pole dancing. Following that we have a research session at the Yale club. We are currently investigating the addictive properties of cocaine - your participation will be required... in fact it is the only way you will ever be able to tolerate the rest of us. From 2 to 5 pm we usually black out. Dinner is at Dorsia and we usually have debauchery for desert. Expect long nights, lots of hard-bodies to hit on and occasionally a drunk Louis Carruthers making a move for your cock.

You will be pleased to know that we have no firewall restrictions on the network at the Yale club. In fact, we have a filter that will insert the words "penis" "vagina" or "strap-on" into the text just in case the message is too tame.

Also, I kinda remember you as one of our old stable boys. Thank your little sister again for me. I hope she's walking all right now.

Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[bjw69]

I can't read, I have great difficulty with simple arithmetic and I had to wear a helmet 24 hours per day until I was 22. However, I was accepted to the RCSI and I am one of their star pupils.

It is a great school. Especially if you cannot find a suitable group home or residential care facility in your home country.

BJW69

 

[GDM]

Avoid RCSI like it was the plague!!! Do whatever you have to do in order to get into one of the other Irish medical schools, but do not go to RCSI. The only thing that RCSI will provide you with is five years of despair and a lifetime of regret.

Oh the drama. Believe me my first choice would be UCD.

 

[Choda]

Choda,rcsi'09 under your nick.

does that mean you graduate in 2009 ?

if so then you haven't started clincal and haven't done the communation skills crap yet. Infact you will have only used the stethiscope in that one physiology tutorial on cardiovascular disease. So both of your stories would have been made up or "borrowed" from someone else.

and unless you went for the 6 year program (with premed, which I agree is just there to make you fork out another 30k) you will have been at rcsi for less than a year.

I agree certain members of staff are set in their ways and its porbably not the pbest college in the world but I'd be very hard pressed to call it the worst. I've actually found my 4 years there pretty OK on the whole but something tells me that I'm one of the very few .

Anyway this thread is getting rediculous.

Umm... yeah you probably have no idea what's goin down at the college. In spirit of their attempt to "update" their curriculum, we're now required to have three communication skills tutorials over the year...it's b*ll**** really...poorly done. We also have clinical skills tutorials once every two weeks. Very rudimentary, but they get us to practice on actors. You think i'm makin stories up? okay next time you get a spontaneous pneumothorax i'll get that girl to check you out. Uggh the people here (admin, profs and students alike) LACK SO MUCH COMMON SENSE!!!!

You obviously have no idea what a good education is. I've done degrees before coming here and those were a lot tougher than the **** we're learning now. The learning environment at my university was a lot more supportive and organized than rcsi. All the basic science courses here are jokes man. Go to north america and do a premed degree and you'll know what i mean.

It's gonna be a long four more years here.

 

[leorl]

Hang on a minute...you don't think trying to develop communication and clinical skills into a growing doctor is a good idea? Perhaps the reason why they've introduced this is the fact that doctors were graduating without these skills, and it was affecting performance. You think having 3 tutorials over the course of the whole year is too much? Or a clinical skills every other week - that's too much for your schedule? You think learning how to do the simple things now (read Xrays/ecgs/take bp/use a hammer/interacting with people/etc.) is bull****?

You've got another 4 years to go. That means you've only done 1 year at RCSI. You're basing judgment off 1 year? For people with degrees before, the first year is always easy. You have that much more experience than everyone else. The others are just coming from doing physics, chemistry, etc. and haven't encountered upper level courses yet. When I first came here, I thought we were given "physiology for dummies." Of course they're going to have to water it down a bit, that's just the system. Wait til you hit courses like pharm/pathology...don't think you'll be complaining then.

No wonder the atmosphere of the RCSI threads is so negative. Seems all people like to do is whine. You made the choice to come here. Are you going to spend the next 4 years whinging? Suck it up, be positive and go become a good doctor.

 

[Tara_Mich]

Hey Leorl,

How much does the RCSI pay you to be their professional apologist?

RCSI is not alone. All of the Dublin medical schools suck. Judging by your overly optimistic tone, you need a reality check... or 13 inches of pbateman!

-Tara

Hang on a minute...you don't think trying to develop communication and clinical skills into a growing doctor is a good idea? Perhaps the reason why they've introduced this is the fact that doctors were graduating without these skills, and it was affecting performance. You think having 3 tutorials over the course of the whole year is too much? Or a clinical skills every other week - that's too much for your schedule? You think learning how to do the simple things now (read Xrays/ecgs/take bp/use a hammer/interacting with people/etc.) is bull****?

You've got another 4 years to go. That means you've only done 1 year at RCSI. You're basing judgment off 1 year? For people with degrees before, the first year is always easy. You have that much more experience than everyone else. The others are just coming from doing physics, chemistry, etc. and haven't encountered upper level courses yet. When I first came here, I thought we were given "physiology for dummies." Of course they're going to have to water it down a bit, that's just the system. Wait til you hit courses like pharm/pathology...don't think you'll be complaining then.

No wonder the atmosphere of the RCSI threads is so negative. Seems all people like to do is whine. You made the choice to come here. Are you going to spend the next 4 years whinging? Suck it up, be positive and go become a good doctor.

 

[r3boot]

Alot of the people who have been at rcsi and complain about the teaching are the ones who are used to being spoon fed and having everything going as THEY planned and have no consideration for anything else that is going on (this is espacially true in the clincal years).

Said it before and I'll say it again.......

 

[leorl]

Just for your info, I'm definitely not an advocate of RCSI. I'm really glad I didn't choose there, actually. Perhaps I'm more optimistic than you'd like, but better that than a miserable, constantly bitter sour grape. There's no need for it and I'm really sorry for those people who feel it necessary to spread their bitterness because they obviously made wrong choices in their lives. I'm having a great time - there's things here (in the general Irish med system) that are really irritating and I could definitely do without, but at the end of the day, I'm satisfied that I'm learning/doing enough to become a good doctor while having a life. Happy people are proactive, unhappy ones sit and wait for things to happen. Don't always go looking to place blame elsewhere, medicine is what you put into it yourself. If you find yourself needing more direction or help, there's good health professionals willing to help anywhere if you'd get off your ass and look. I can't believe people come here already knowing they're going to be IMGs and still expect to be handed everything or waited on hand and foot.

 

[Choda]

Leorl,

Whoa sweetie, you totally missed the point. I'm all for developping communication and clinical skills...umm...ie. "how to become a doctor" BUT it's the way that RCSI goes about it that totally gets too me. Just listening to all my friends back in north america, our tutorials just pale in comparison to what they face in first year. There is a complete lack of organization during our tutorials, they get cancelled, rooms get changed without telling us.

In fact, i think 3 communications skills tutorials is TOO LITTLE, clinical skills should be every week! Our tutorials ARE JOKES. I sure wish we had them more frequently, and of a better quality! Leorl, you need to re-read what i wrote... I used my comm/clinical skills tutorials to illustrate how a lot of kids in my class lack common sense, and how the administration at this school lacks common sense and organizational skills. It was also to illustrate how taking in kids with sub-par language skills is detrimental to the collective learning process. We're at an english-speaking medical school and we'll be learning to deal with mostly english-speaking patients...it only makes sense that all students should have some level of proficiency in english.

"too much for my schedule?!!!!" Leorl, before i came here, during my undergrad years I had about 35 hours of class and labs per week. Now, I have 13 hours of class max. Umm...yes i've also taken pharm and path... definately a lot harder at my alma mater than the pharm i've faced here.

I'm providing evidence for the opinions that i'm offering. You...well...must resort attacking my well-based opinions because i'm fogging up your rose-tinted glasses.

Oh here's an example of the little respect the administration has for us students:

Today we had a symposium on sports medicine. Last term, we had a symposium on some other topic. They schedule these symposia in the middle of our exam study periods...not surprisingly, for the first symposium, not that many people showed up for it. This time around, the vice-dean instils a scare tactic: "material from the sports medicine symposium will be tested on". Sure enough, most people show up... BUT I garantee there will not be a single question from the symposium on the exam. Anyway, the point was... she is so much more concerned with the reputation of our school...and has to result to bullying us to fill the lecture theatre. If she was so concerned for the reputation of the school, why not provide the support and the appropriate learning atmosphere for us to become good doctors? Wouldn't preparing us to be good doctors have a more profound effect on the school's reputation? Blah....

Am I gonna keep whining? yup, damn right. I'm very proud, and priviledged to be here...and it's just that, I know my school has the potential to be a lot better, and our administration is really sitting back doing nothing... while squandering our money on lavish banquets and property they don't even know what to do with (that is fact: i recently attended an infromation session with the president of our school and he provided an overview of where our student fees go: i was not impressed). RCSI has such an ability to put on these elaborate receptions for our parents and guests... yet... they cannot create a simple master schedule which outlines our classes and tutorials.. on one sheet of paper...

as the irish say... "For f*ck's sake!!!...."

Hang on a minute...you don't think trying to develop communication and clinical skills into a growing doctor is a good idea? Perhaps the reason why they've introduced this is the fact that doctors were graduating without these skills, and it was affecting performance. You think having 3 tutorials over the course of the whole year is too much? Or a clinical skills every other week - that's too much for your schedule? You think learning how to do the simple things now (read Xrays/ecgs/take bp/use a hammer/interacting with people/etc.) is bull****?

You've got another 4 years to go. That means you've only done 1 year at RCSI. You're basing judgment off 1 year? For people with degrees before, the first year is always easy. You have that much more experience than everyone else. The others are just coming from doing physics, chemistry, etc. and haven't encountered upper level courses yet. When I first came here, I thought we were given "physiology for dummies." Of course they're going to have to water it down a bit, that's just the system. Wait til you hit courses like pharm/pathology...don't think you'll be complaining then.

No wonder the atmosphere of the RCSI threads is so negative. Seems all people like to do is whine. You made the choice to come here. Are you going to spend the next 4 years whinging? Suck it up, be positive and go become a good doctor.

 

[leorl]

Fair enough, I thought you were scoffing at having to do courses like that, sorry my mistake. Bureacracy anywhere is an inefficient pain in the ass to have to deal with. Just for future reference, I am/have edited some posts to remove specific names, since if seen by admins of schools, may be viewed as slander. Should anyone have questions regarding specific people, discussions should happen through PM.

 

[Sage880]

I think a lot of the RCSI bashing comes from the fact that they're 50% more expensive then the other Irish schools.

Then, they trick people into paying it by making claims of all these high class American electives and residency programs that you'll have access too.

I think it's all bull. You have no more chance then any other school. But premeds are all freaked out and they'll believe that kind of stuff.

As for the lack of organization - I truely believe that the Irish schools are getting better with the paper work stuff. I think UCC is pretty good actually and the upper years talk about the old days like they were horrible. Even this year, I thought they were doing something stupid so I told someone and they said, "great idea" and are changing the way they do it next year. I think every year they'll be better and better. We even have a person here who busts her ass making sure the International students have an easy time. She gets things scheduled early and the staff have been pretty great about making sure we have an easy time.

 

[Jammer]

As we say in the big leagues, 'strong work!'

I'm glad to see that not all of the young blood at the RCSI are blindly following the shepherd to the slaughter. You've caught on at an early stage and your realization will be of great benefit to you. Just remember for the next 3 years at the RCSI, DTA - Don't Trust Anybody! Always look beneath the shiney surface for the rest of the iceberg. Don't believe for one second that the RCSI has your best interests in mind. They talk a big game but don't deliver. The RCSI's 'Aims and Objectives' state that 'the main objective of the Medical School is to provide the education and experience that will enable its graduates to enter postgraduate training in any specialty of medicine...Students will be exposed to a variety of specialities to provide them with comprehensive training, and to acquaint them with career options, both at home and abroad.' However, all that the RCSI does is antagonize your attempts to gain experience that is integral to the development of your career and achieving your goals. The RCSI has only one priority and that's taking your money. Actually, two priorities, the other priority is spending (or drinking away) your tuition money on their lavish receptions all around the world in an effort to keep up their public relations and donations. Newsflash: what about investing in the students for a change? If students left the RCSI with something positive to say about their experience, the school wouldn't have to spend so much money to maintain its reputation.

Keep up the good work, soldier.

Leorl,

Whoa sweetie, you totally missed the point. I'm all for developping communication and clinical skills...umm...ie. "how to become a doctor" BUT it's the way that RCSI goes about it that totally gets too me. Just listening to all my friends back in north america, our tutorials just pale in comparison to what they face in first year. There is a complete lack of organization during our tutorials, they get cancelled, rooms get changed without telling us.

In fact, i think 3 communications skills tutorials is TOO LITTLE, clinical skills should be every week! Our tutorials ARE JOKES. I sure wish we had them more frequently, and of a better quality! Leorl, you need to re-read what i wrote... I used my comm/clinical skills tutorials to illustrate how a lot of kids in my class lack common sense, and how the administration at this school lacks common sense and organizational skills. It was also to illustrate how taking in kids with sub-par language skills is detrimental to the collective learning process. We're at an english-speaking medical school and we'll be learning to deal with mostly english-speaking patients...it only makes sense that all students should have some level of proficiency in english.

"too much for my schedule?!!!!" Leorl, before i came here, during my undergrad years I had about 35 hours of class and labs per week. Now, I have 13 hours of class max. Umm...yes i've also taken pharm and path... definately a lot harder at my alma mater than the pharm i've faced here.

I'm providing evidence for the opinions that i'm offering. You...well...must resort attacking my well-based opinions because i'm fogging up your rose-tinted glasses.

Oh here's an example of the little respect the administration has for us students:

Today we had a symposium on sports medicine. Last term, we had a symposium on some other topic. They schedule these symposia in the middle of our exam study periods...not surprisingly, for the first symposium, not that many people showed up for it. This time around, the vice-dean instils a scare tactic: "material from the sports medicine symposium will be tested on". Sure enough, most people show up... BUT I garantee there will not be a single question from the symposium on the exam. Anyway, the point was... she is so much more concerned with the reputation of our school...and has to result to bullying us to fill the lecture theatre. If she was so concerned for the reputation of the school, why not provide the support and the appropriate learning atmosphere for us to become good doctors? Wouldn't preparing us to be good doctors have a more profound effect on the school's reputation? Blah....

Am I gonna keep whining? yup, damn right. I'm very proud, and priviledged to be here...and it's just that, I know my school has the potential to be a lot better, and our administration is really sitting back doing nothing... while squandering our money on lavish banquets and property they don't even know what to do with (that is fact: i recently attended an infromation session with the president of our school and he provided an overview of where our student fees go: i was not impressed). RCSI has such an ability to put on these elaborate receptions for our parents and guests... yet... they cannot create a simple master schedule which outlines our classes and tutorials.. on one sheet of paper...

as the irish say... "For f*ck's sake!!!...."

 

[r3boot]

Sorry guys some f*ckwit used my account. I'm keeping the post up so that people can follow the thread though


Who the hell are you to be editing posts because people have named names and provided specific examples to support their arguements! How much does RCSI pay you to bend over and grab your ankles? ... probably a lot less than Bateman ever would!

You want us to use private messages if we are gonna talk about people?!? Screw you sweet cheeks. You have been living in Ireland too long and forgot how democracy works. SDN is an excellent forum for sorting out the **** storm that is medical school in Ireland. Considering the pervasive climate of intimidation at the RCSI, this forum is one of the best means of creating a ground swell of sentiment for the revolution. So, unless you want to be practicing proctology in Coolock for the rest of your miserable life, get on board now.

p.s. Are you gonna be one of those doctors who saves the world? Reality check: you can't save the world... Bateman owns it!

Fair enough, I thought you were scoffing at having to do courses like that, sorry my mistake. Bureacracy anywhere is an inefficient pain in the ass to have to deal with. Just for future reference, I am/have edited some posts to remove specific names, since if seen by admins of schools, may be viewed as slander. Should anyone have questions regarding specific people, discussions should happen through PM.

 

[leorl]

Dude, chill the hell out. Seems you RCSI peeps get worked up way too easily. What, exams getting to everyone or something? Your hot head may not have noticed that examples cited don't change, the only thing removed is the name. This has nothing to do with protecting RCSI or whatever you're dreaming up, I have no interest in RCSI itself although I do believe people should be allowed to make up their own unbiased opinion of the place - that is true "democracy." The reason the names are removed is to protect SDN and our members against slander accusations and legal issues, because we have encountered problems with both before in other forums.

SDN is also a forum for intelligent and civil discussion, especially in the international forums. It's not intended to be the base of revolution for disgruntled, bitter students. If you want something to change, it needs to be among yourselves in RCSI through emails, class meetings, class reps, etc. Not on a public message board. If you want to use SDN's RCSI network to b****/moan/revolt, do so through PM's or even SDN chat. If you want complaints to be aired publically on the forum, do it in a civil fashion. Otherwise you leave the moderators no choice but to intervene.

 

[Jammer]

Leorl,

How does it feel to sit there on your moral highground? Feeling as though you can put in your 2 cents whenever you please??? It seems to me that you think you have the right to discredit other peoples' posts and when you are unsuccessful at that (given that you never provide any facts to support your stance), you resort to banning people, editing and even locking out posts. I guess the Irish medical education system has trained you well because it seems to me that they have been very successful at instilling their fascist principles in you. Your posts are filled with suttle comments about other posters, claiming that they are complainers, lack work ethic, and are outright liars. However, these posts do not come from complainers, they are actually from people who have been or are currently students at RCSI and that have the ability to think for themselves and to be critical about important issues. What is written about RCSI and its administration is true; the only slander on this board is your comments about other posters. It is important that people who are applying to RCSI know the truth about it so that they can make an educated and informed decision, a decision that most people were not able to make because they were never told about what really goes on within the walls of RCSI. What bothers me the most is that you offer your weak and worthless opinions as though you've seen it all, but you're not even a student at RCSI. Your comments about RCSI and, more importantly, students at RCSI do not come from direct experience; your comments are merely speculation and, in essence, add nothing constructive to this string.

Finally, where is PBateman? The word on the street is that you banned him? For what, adding a little personality to this forum? Way to go, Leorl, you have just proved my point.

Bring back Bateman!!!

Bring back Bateman!!!

Dude, chill the hell out. Seems you RCSI peeps get worked up way too easily. What, exams getting to everyone or something? Your hot head may not have noticed that examples cited don't change, the only thing removed is the name. This has nothing to do with protecting RCSI or whatever you're dreaming up, I have no interest in RCSI itself although I do believe people should be allowed to make up their own unbiased opinion of the place - that is true "democracy." The reason the names are removed is to protect SDN and our members against slander accusations and legal issues, because we have encountered problems with both before in other forums.

SDN is also a forum for intelligent and civil discussion, especially in the international forums. It's not intended to be the base of revolution for disgruntled, bitter students. If you want something to change, it needs to be among yourselves in RCSI through emails, class meetings, class reps, etc. Not on a public message board. If you want to use SDN's RCSI network to b****/moan/revolt, do so through PM's or even SDN chat. If you want complaints to be aired publically on the forum, do it in a civil fashion. Otherwise you leave the moderators no choice but to intervene.

 

[r3boot]

Leorl,

How does it feel to sit there on your moral highground? Feeling as though you can put in your 2 cents whenever you please??? It seems to me that you think you have the right to discredit other peoples' posts and when you are unsuccessful at that (given that you never provide any facts to support your stance), you resort to banning people, editing and even locking out posts. I guess the Irish medical education system has trained you well because it seems to me that they have been very successful at instilling their fascist principles in you. Your posts are filled with suttle comments about other posters, claiming that they are complainers, lack work ethic, and are outright liars. However, these posts do not come from complainers, they are actually from people who have been or are currently students at RCSI and that have the ability to think for themselves and to be critical about important issues. What is written about RCSI and its administration is true; the only slander on this board is your comments about other posters. It is important that people who are applying to RCSI know the truth about it so that they can make an educated and informed decision, a decision that most people were not able to make because they were never told about what really goes on within the walls of RCSI. What bothers me the most is that you offer your weak and worthless opinions as though you've seen it all, but you're not even a student at RCSI. Your comments about RCSI and, more importantly, students at RCSI do not come from direct experience; your comments are merely speculation and, in essence, add nothing constructive to this string.

Finally, where is PBateman? The word on the street is that you banned him? For what, adding a little personality to this forum? Way to go, Leorl, you have just proved my point.

Bring back Bateman!!!

Bring back Bateman!!!

when somebody complains b**ches and moans all day because s/he doesn't get what they want, its the truth.

When somebody mentions some of the advantages of being at RCSI they are considered stupid and simplistc.

and when an admin does his/her job and bans a 4 year old troll from the forum they become people who think they are on a moral high ground and are trying to instill faccist principles.


I've been keeping track of these forums for a long time but have only started posting recently.

It seems to me that its the same people who b**ch and moan everytime no matter what the subject is.

Do you have any friends !?!?!?!?

Also, I see no reason why you had to post this on the forum you could have PMed Leorl.

 

[leorl]

You can think what you want about my posts or opinions, I don't mind, you're entitled to them. The experiences that each of us have are going to be different. There's no problem with the fact that you dislike aspects of your school, or that you want other people to know what they are. That's fine. You present your view, I present mine. However, as I've said before, it needs to be done in a civil manner. What I've seen in this thread isn't a reflection of people thinking critically, all I've seen is a group of people thinking this forum is the right place to slam a school, detract from the purposeful intent of the thread, ridicule it's members, ridicule/harass SDN members, trolling and discrimination against IMGs.

My actions as moderator on SDN have nothing to do with morals or my opinions or your opinions. We have set rules on the conduct we expect from our members (read the Terms of Service), and I only have to moderate when those are violated - to be honest, we're just babysitters. Upholding the TOS encourages positive discussion and protects SDN legally, as well as protects the general SDN community. And this is especially important in the foreign boards, as IMGs are already treated with misgivings.

 

[Ratan1982]

I think this back and forth banter is incredibly childish. Ok, fine, so you have misgivings about RCSI. these should be voiced. But, seriously, there is no reason to protest the expulsion of Bateman from this board

Bateman was kicked out because of his offensive comments. i dont' think anyone even cared what he thought about RCSI. It seems your real misgivings are with RCSI and not anything to do with Bateman

It seems to me that Leorl has simply voiced her opinion about RCSI. no need to take your anger about your school on her.

Now please, lets be adults and get back to a serious discussion

 

[Schmegma]

Hey, R3Boot, Leorl and all you other pacifists, here is a little USMLE style question to test your IMG skills:

Choose the most correct answer from the following after reading the short vignette.

You are:

a) stupid
b) ignorant
c) telling white lies
d) brainwashed
e) in denial
f) a mixture of all of the above

I think you know which one is the right answer, but in order to not be ambiguous, like RCSI, I will tell you that option F is the correct answer. After you finish your ankle grabbing for the day you guys pretend you enjoy the shafting you receive in Ireland, who knows, maybe you do swing that way.

Get off the silly moral highground that you people (R3boot, Leorl, etc) are on (which is about as tall as a pile of my crap) about your IMG status. Stop telling yourself that you are in Ireland for adventure and because you chose to do something different. Deal with the fact you weren’t good enough. When someone tries to speak the truth about the Irish colleges and your non existent medical education especially at RCSI, you guys go and ban them. Way to go! You’ve adopted the Irish mentalitly, stomp on the people that aren’t afraid to speak the truth and if you can’t find anything reasonable to reply with, ban them. PBateman was the best thing that happened to this board, he brought truth and questioned the fairytales which you people cling to as truth. Just like your decision to get your medical education at an Irish institution, you failed to recognize the stupidity of your actions in banning him. You certainly remind me of the Special Olympics, ******s on a roid rage.

My advice to kids (yes, RCSI students are now an average age of 14-16…physically and even less mentally) who have a rich daddy or mommy thinking of sending them to RCSI, let me sum if up for you in 2 words: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!!!!!! Not only will you be gouged, you will be crapped on, spat on and kicked in the lithotomy position. You don’t need to pay 35,000 euros a year for someone to do that to you, you can ask me and I will gladly do it for free. Do the math and think about it (35,000 a year and every year they WILL raise the price), buy a damn Ferarri or invest it! You will receive a better education from a hillbilly elementary school drop out than you will at RCSI. At least the hillbilly will respond to your needs and concerns and give you the same respect he would to a donkey. But perhaps more importantly, you may be shafted by the hillbilly like the donkey, at RCSI, you are GURANTEED the shaft.


With much love XOXO,

Schmegma in yo MOUF!!

 

[Sage880]

What I've seen in this thread isn't a reflection of people thinking critically, all I've seen is a group of people thinking this forum is the right place to slam a school, detract from the purposeful intent of the thread, ridicule it's members, ridicule/harass SDN members, trolling and discrimination against IMGs.

My posts on this thread haven't been like that. My only problem with RCSI is I don't think the education is 50% better (I think it's the same) as the other Irish schools and they try to scare pre-meds into paying the extra money.

It almost worked on me. When you're applying to med schools (especially away from home) you'll believe almost any of the propaganda. I don't think anyone else should waste the extra money by going to RCSI if they have another choice.

 

[NIQ]

Hey, R3Boot, Leorl and all you other pacifists, here is a little USMLE style question to test your IMG skills:

Choose the most correct answer from the following after reading the short vignette.

You are:

a) stupid
b) ignorant
c) telling white lies
d) brainwashed
e) in denial
f) a mixture of all of the above

I think you know which one is the right answer, but in order to not be ambiguous, like RCSI, I will tell you that option F is the correct answer. After you finish your ankle grabbing for the day you guys pretend you enjoy the shafting you receive in Ireland, who knows, maybe you do swing that way.

Get off the silly moral highground that you people (R3boot, Leorl, etc) are on (which is about as tall as a pile of my crap) about your IMG status. Stop telling yourself that you are in Ireland for adventure and because you chose to do something different. Deal with the fact you weren’t good enough. When someone tries to speak the truth about the Irish colleges and your non existent medical education especially at RCSI, you guys go and ban them. Way to go! You’ve adopted the Irish mentalitly, stomp on the people that aren’t afraid to speak the truth and if you can’t find anything reasonable to reply with, ban them. PBateman was the best thing that happened to this board, he brought truth and questioned the fairytales which you people cling to as truth. Just like your decision to get your medical education at an Irish institution, you failed to recognize the stupidity of your actions in banning him. You certainly remind me of the Special Olympics, ******s on a roid rage.

My advice to kids (yes, RCSI students are now an average age of 14-16…physically and even less mentally) who have a rich daddy or mommy thinking of sending them to RCSI, let me sum if up for you in 2 words: STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THIS PLACE!!!!!!! Not only will you be gouged, you will be crapped on, spat on and kicked in the lithotomy position. You don’t need to pay 35,000 euros a year for someone to do that to you, you can ask me and I will gladly do it for free. Do the math and think about it (35,000 a year and every year they WILL raise the price), buy a damn Ferarri or invest it! You will receive a better education from a hillbilly elementary school drop out than you will at RCSI. At least the hillbilly will respond to your needs and concerns and give you the same respect he would to a donkey. But perhaps more importantly, you may be shafted by the hillbilly like the donkey, at RCSI, you are GURANTEED the shaft.


With much love XOXO,

Schmegma in yo MOUF!!

Newbie with 1 post why oh why does this feel like Bateman using a different SN

 

[r3boot]

naaah too original.

 

[Schmegma]

Wow...you just proved my point Niq. Actually, your intelligence, or lack thereof, surprised me. RCSI really does go to lengths to select out solid people to represent the college.

So you think that only the people here that post read this message board? You leave me speechless...just like you in your anatomy oral exam for the 3rd time.


Yours Truly

 

[PatBateman_jr]

Medicine is about getting what you put into it. I enjoy my school and I'm happy I'm going here.

Fact: The tests here are much easier then the tests at American med schools. I do as many of the on-line tests as I can find on American med school's web sites and they're much harder then what we do. That being said, they're still not that hard.

All of my fans will be delighted to know that I am back like the bad case of HPV that Leorl's little sister gave me. Who knew it could be transmitted by a rusty coat hanger?

I feel it is necessary for his highness to put down the coke mirror and razor balde and weigh into the debate again.

Lets start with Sage 880, lame attempt to justify her existence. Where do I begin the onslaught... Ah ha! So, you are an RCSI student who does tests from reputable genuine American Medical Schools, like my alma mater Yale, online. Way to go shat head! You have paid €35,000 per year for an education that is sooooooooo f@cking deficient that you spend your time doing another school's tests online for free. Hey, great way to use that money mommy makes from whoring herself out! Why not save the €35,000 per year and just sit at home in whatever shat hole you hail from and do the tests online from the comfort of your own ****ty trailer home. Oh yes, I forgot people go to RCSI to get broadened (your little sister came to the Yale club to get broadened, but in a different manner entirley) and live an adventure. What f*cking adventure? Riding the bus out to a ****ty so called "hospital". Walking in the rain. Looking through the windows of Ron Black's on Dawson Street and watching the Yale medicine alumni golfing club snort coke off the backs of desperate EU accession nationals?

If you like tests so much, try a few sample questions for IMGs, Bateman style:

1.A patient arrives in the ER bleeding profusely. Your first line of action is:
a)call for help from a real doctor (ie. American educated)
b)you do not see the patient because an IMG you could not match to a US hospital
c)request help from the ER attending because as an IMG you are more accustomed to treating goats & pigs.
d)You do nothing because you are mesmorised by electric lights, which you did not have in the country where you were "educated".

2.A handsome Yale Neurosurgery resident appears before you. Do you:
a)Bow down and worship the unholy.
b)ask what he did with your little sister.
c)beg him for an application for the assistant trainee janitor position at the Yale club.
d)offer to shine his shoes with your conjunctiva.

3.As an IMG, you are?
a)weak
b)worthless
c)illiterate
d)all of the above
e)all of the above plus a few more you are ashamed to mention.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I am an MD, you are an IMG. The only procedure you need to know is how to work a mop and bucket.

Yours in all manner of superiority,
Dr. Patrick Bateman Jr.

 

[leorl]

Thread closed. If you have legitimate questions, please start a new thread or PM someone who actually knows what they're talking about and will give you a straight answer.