Why are pre-meds/med students so arrogant about being slightly intelligent?

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I've gotta say, I've personally always liked the 'mechanic of the human body' metaphor.
But then, I've always had a lot of respect for my mechanics. I fix my own car, and honestly, it involves a lot of the same curiosity and wanting to know how things work and interact and how to explain the problem that my more recent passion for medicine springs from.

As for the 'researcher vs surgeon dying' thing, L.O.friggin.L :laugh:
The only researcher who isn't replaceable at the end of their project is one who didn't know how to keep a proper lab notebook...or communicate with their PI. :meanie:
I'm exaggerating, of course, but research does not occur in a vacuum. It's not one dude furiously tinkering while writing in code and hiding his results from everyone until *voila! this fully formed paper just sprung forth!*

I enjoy troll posts...they get more action and end up on inter
 
What is it that you do, exactly?

I'm currently studying nuclear engineering. I'm not sure what I plan to do with the degree. I simply chose it because I find the subject matter interesting.

If I was a genius (which I'm not) I would have pursued a career in financial engineering with the intent of becoming a multi-millionaire. Unfortunately, those jobs are hyper competitive, and I wouldn't stand a chance of getting in. Thus, I settled with what I'm capable of, much like all of you did.
 
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I'm currently studying nuclear engineering. I'm not sure what I plan to do with the degree. I simply choose it because I find the subject matter interesting.

If I was a genius (which I'm not) I would have pursued a career in financial engineering with the intent of becoming a multi-millionaire. Unfortunately, those jobs are hyper competitive, and I wouldn't stand a chance of getting in. Thus, I settled with what I'm capable of, much like all of you did.

Well... if World War III were to happen, at least we would know where to start. :ninja::ninja:
 
They carry the most arrogant expressions and often treat other students as dirt. They always complain about how much time they have to spend studying for their courses and are sure to carry their organic chemistry textbook around in their hand rather than their backpack so everyone can see they're pre-med.
I have tutored and provided supplemental instruction to hundreds of students in this very subject, and I can assure you these kind of 'people' you describe of are of the entitlement nature; regardless of their geographical location and/or socio-economic status. These 'people' you speak of sounds like 'people' who expect classes to register itself, who are always on FB/phone in class/lecture and sits all the way in the back, and whose mommy and/or daddy still gives them 'lunch money/allowances' every day.
I'm not really sure how they've come to be so arrogant, though. If they were really intelligent, wouldn't they be aiming for a PhD in quantitative finance at Yale where they would set themselves up for a career on Wall Street? But of course, none of these mediocre students have nearly the quantitative skills to make it in high finance.
So by your logic:

Intelligent = PhD in quantitative finance at Yale
PhD in quantitative finance at Yale = career on Wall Street
career on Wall Street = Corporate America
Corporate America = Increasing Profits
Increasing Profits = Increasing $$$$

Therefore Intelligent = Increasing $$$$
o_0

Then again, no such program currently exists at the Yale School of Management.
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This makes no sense.😕😕😕
These aren't kids with perfect SAT scores or photographic memories we're dealing with. These are you just your average joe-bloe biology majors who thinks that getting an A- in organic chemistry at podunk state university warrants a sense of superiority over everyone else. Does anyone else find this odd? After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?
This sense of superiority comes from your bigoted imagination; that's what's up.

You sound like you live in a very, very small world and have very, very narrow interests.
I'm currently an undergraduate at the University of California and many of the pre-med students I've come across are horrendously arrogant. They make jokes about the business majors being stupid and the liberal arts majors wasting their time.
They weren't joking with the saying: "like minded people think alike."🙄
 
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So by your logic:

Intelligent = PhD in quantitative finance at Yale
PhD in quantitative finance at Yale = career on Wall Street
career on Wall Street = Corporate America
Corporate America = Increasing Profits
Increasing Profits = Increasing $$$$

Therefore Intelligent = Increasing $$$$
o_0

OP is making a rational choice.
 
I'm currently studying nuclear engineering. I'm not sure what I plan to do with the degree. I simply choose it because I find the subject matter interesting.

If I was a genius (which I'm not) I would have pursued a career in financial engineering with the intent of becoming a multi-millionaire. Unfortunately, those jobs are hyper competitive, and I wouldn't stand a chance of getting in. Thus, I settled with what I'm capable of, much like all of you did.

I still don't get your obsession with getting rich. Please explain why you think anybody who doesn't go into finance isn't very intelligent and is settling for less.
 
I'm currently studying nuclear engineering. I'm not sure what I plan to do with the degree. I simply chose it because I find the subject matter interesting.

If I was a genius (which I'm not) I would have pursued a career in financial engineering with the intent of becoming a multi-millionaire. Unfortunately, those jobs are hyper competitive, and I wouldn't stand a chance of getting in. Thus, I settled with what I'm capable of, much like all of you did.

So why spend more than 1 second on this forum?

Finance is definitely boring as hell, and I'm sure you'll be more "helpful" to the world as an engineer compared to someone in finance :laugh:

Career in Wall St. doesn't sound exciting. If someone was to mention finance or Wall St., my response would be: That's like with the stocks and **** right? 😉
 
Disturbia said:
Imagine a pediatric heart surgeon dies. Would hundreds of children die in the absence of his treatment? No, because another money-hungry, prestige-grubbing medical student would be lining up instantly to take his place.

Now imagine a medical researcher died the day before he discovered the cure for cancer. Hundreds of cancer patients would die because they would miss out on the treatment he had discovered. But none of you medical students are like this researcher. You're just another cog in the wheel, much like an assembly line worker or a janitor. You can be replaced in a second by any of the students scrambling to get into med-school. If you think you're making a difference in the world you're deluded.

The only reason a cure for cancer is so valuable is because there are thousands of physicians that can implement and distribute the new treatment to the patients. Without physicians, medical research(ers) would be worthless. Your argument is flawed.

I'm really hesitant to argue with you, I feel like I'm arguing with some punk kid that is extremely short sighted and immature. Come back and a few years and I bet your whole perspective will have changed.

You're also forgetting to include the fact that many of the state-of-the-art procedures and/or devices that save lives are designed by physicians. If I were a betting man I'd say you're more likely to make it big designing a new medical device as a physician than finding a cure for cancer as a researcher.


Actually, yes, kids would die considering you just replaced a pediatric heart surgeon with a medical student....

+1 That was a good laugh.
 
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For the most part, premeds who claim they're smart are actually very ignorant and get weeded out pretty fast. This is called the Dunning-Kruger effect.

5 star post.

It is true, though. Usually the problem is that these kids are somewhat intelligent, but because of their social awkwardness and angst from a lifetime of sub-par social interactions they decide to create a hierarchy of value in which intelligence is considered to be the most valuable trait and, what do you know, their self-proclaimed "genius" puts them at the top.

It's sad, but social alienation and angst can drive people to such a dark, desperate level.

(Well, I suppose these are just the musings of a cynic, but I'm confident some mechanism similar to this occurs in some people's minds lol.) :naughty:
 
Not a troll thread, just a wake-up call. Notice how you defended yourself here:



The fact that you feel the need to defend the intelligence of pre-meds shows that you, along with all medical students, regard yourself highly. Well, guess what, intelligent people aren't becoming radiologists. Intelligent people who only care about money go into quantitative roles in finance, and the ones that don't care about money are going into fields they're passionate about. Granted, that may be medicine, but more than likely it would be medical research.

If you think about it, doctors are really nothing more than mechanics for the human body. They simply regurgitate information that medical researchers discovered. Thousands of years from now, they could be replaced by robots. Researchers, though- the people that actually make a difference in the world and help people- could never be replaced.

Who says research and medicine are exclusive? Haha 😉 :hello:
 
Now imagine a medical researcher died the day before he discovered the cure for cancer. Hundreds of cancer patients would die because they would miss out on the treatment he had discovered. But none of you medical students are like this researcher. You're just another cog in the wheel, much like an assembly line worker or a janitor. You can be replaced in a second by any of the students scrambling to get into med-school. If you think you're making a difference in the world you're deluded.
lol only on pre-allo.
 
lol only on pre-allo.

Disturbia isn't making a difference in the world at all, he's just bitter and needed a way to vent to us. It's ok OP, don't feel too sad, cheer up buddy 🙂
 
I'm currently an undergraduate at the University of California and many of the pre-med students I've come across are horrendously arrogant. They make jokes about the business majors being stupid and the liberal arts majors wasting their time. They carry the most arrogant expressions and often treat other students as dirt. They always complain about how much time they have to spend studying for their courses and are sure to carry their organic chemistry textbook around in their hand rather than their backpack so everyone can see they're pre-med.

I'm not really sure how they've come to be so arrogant, though. If they were really intelligent, wouldn't they be aiming for a PhD in quantitative finance at Yale where they would set themselves up for a career on Wall Street? But of course, none of these mediocre students have nearly the quantitative skills to make it in high finance. These aren't kids with perfect SAT scores or photographic memories we're dealing with. These are you just your average joe-bloe biology majors who thinks that getting an A- in organic chemistry at podunk state university warrants a sense of superiority over everyone else. Does anyone else find this odd? After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?

Sorry to hear that you're stuck with a group of people with such unpleasant behavior. My premed class was much different. We supported each other. Being a first generation college student, I was very grateful that my classmates told me about the Premed Society, studied with me, and that we discussed our career plans together. During class and labs, there was always someone to help if you had a question about anything (schoolwork related). We didn't even compete with each other. It was actually very nice. I hope that my medical school is the same way. And again, I'm not trying to rub this in your face. - I genuinely hope you aren't stuck with the group described for a full 4 years.

It's truly difficult to be around people like what you described, who are angry (masked anger), full of negativity toward others, etc. It can be difficult to stay positive and happy in that environment. I hope that you do everything you can not to absorb that. A counselor might have advice about handling these things. As much as I dislike saying it, if you are a freshman, you might want to consider transferring. You can visit other schools and attend premed student group meetings to get a sense of what their students are like. I truly hope that you find a great group of people sooner or later.
 
According to your pre-dental title, you don't consider yourself intelligent either.

All joking aside, quantifying intelligence is useless, especially when trying to do so with "titles". There are people intelligent enough to win the nobel prize in biomedical research trying to pursue medicine. One's goals do not dictate one's intelligence.

Also, there are different kinds of intelligence. Let's see all these PhD scientist hold their own in a philosophy or sociology debate.

Haha, BRAVO! Bravisimo!
 
Forgive my absence. I had business to attend to. Anyways, now that I'm back I can prove my point.

Imagine a pediatric heart surgeon dies. Would hundreds of children die in the absence of his treatment? No, because another money-hungry, prestige-grubbing medical student would be lining up instantly to take his place.

Now imagine a medical researcher died the day before he discovered the cure for cancer. Hundreds of cancer patients would die because they would miss out on the treatment he had discovered. But none of you medical students are like this researcher. You're just another cog in the wheel, much like an assembly line worker or a janitor. You can be replaced in a second by any of the students scrambling to get into med-school. If you think you're making a difference in the world you're deluded.

Hey, are you a Max Weber scholar by any chance?
 
After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?

Yikes… this completely rubs me the wrong way.
 
Disturbia isn't making a difference in the world at all, he's just bitter and needed a way to vent to us. It's ok OP, don't feel too sad, cheer up buddy 🙂

Come on guys, he's an undergrad engineering student. He saves more lives before breakfast than we will in our entire careers.
 
come on guys, he's an undergrad nuclear engineering student. He saves more lives before breakfast than we will in our entire careers.
Hmmm, perhaps he/she might.....
 
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I know this troll thread is basically dead, but I just wanted to say that in my experience that the engineers that I knew in undergrad were easily more pretentious than any other major. Not only were the engineers arrogant in their intelligence but also some engineers felt superior to other engineers. I was a ChemE and everyone in my class seemed to think of themselves as top of the food chain. The only other students that were given an equal status were the Electrical Engineers.

As far as my classmates were concerned, business, science, and liberal arts majors weren't even worth mentioning. Pre-Meds can be bad, but engineers really think they're something special lol.
I concur with this 100%

In fact, I live with one, and I can understand from an engineer's point of view that the world is riddled with puzzles to be solved. These puzzles may take form in unanswered questions in their respective fields i.e. CheE, EE, Materials, BioEng, Nuclear, Process, Social; just to name a few. These individuals are high on problem solving, logicality, practicality and who may appear as cheapskates at times due to this practicality; I know this from personal experience.

They are constantly subjected to and riddled with the ills of society, especially where they reside, in the areas of their respective specialty(ies) i.e. CheE, EE, Materials, BioEng, Nuclear, Process, Social; again, just to name a few. And it's no wonder that they may appear to feel this way. I totally understand 100%.👍




C'mon y'all, is it practical to invest in/purchase this?
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Over this?
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Lol, let's just go with an all of the above. We both had different interpretations. It's all good.
 
I know this troll thread is basically dead, but I just wanted to say that in my experience that the engineers that I knew in undergrad were easily more pretentious than any other major. Not only were the engineers arrogant in their intelligence but also some engineers felt superior to other engineers. I was a ChemE and everyone in my class seemed to think of themselves as top of the food chain. The only other students that were given an equal status were the Electrical Engineers.

As far as my classmates were concerned, business, science, and liberal arts majors weren't even worth mentioning. Pre-Meds can be bad, but engineers really think they're something special lol.

Not a troll thread. I meant absolutely every word.

But I see your point. For some reason some of my fellow engineering majors somehow developed a sense of superiority over everyone else. This is of course ridiculous as these students are largely successful due to their poor social skills, unattractive appearances, and complete lack of social life allocating plenty of free time to devote to their studies. Neither they nor I will ever really do anything significant and will most likely end up as salaried employees saving for retirement.

At least both you and I are humble enough to recognize that neither one of us are anywhere close to intelligent. If we were smart I'm sure we could find more interesting things to do with our time than browse SDN. Unfortunately, both of us are hindered by our sub-par intelligence and must settle with the roles with which we are actually capable. For you, that seems to be medicine, and I'm just a modest, typical engineering student.
 
Not a troll thread. I meant absolutely every word.

But I see your point. For some reason some of my fellow engineering majors somehow developed a sense of superiority over everyone else. This is of course ridiculous as these students are largely successful due to their poor social skills, unattractive appearances, and complete lack of social life allocating plenty of free time to devote to their studies. Neither they nor I will ever really do anything significant and will most likely end up as salaried employees saving for retirement.

At least both you and I are humble enough to recognize that neither one of us are anywhere close to intelligent. If we were smart I'm sure we could find more interesting things to do with our time than browse SDN. Unfortunately, both of us are hindered by our sub-par intelligence and must settle with the roles with which we are actually capable. For you, that seems to be medicine, and I'm just a modest, typical engineering student.

Er . . . Yes, you are a troll. But I'm curious about what you mean by sub-par intelligence here. Like, if we all had IQs above 100, then we'd all be in finance just like the 50% of the population whose IQs are >100? 😕

I'm sorry you feel like you're "settling" for engineering, but speak for yourself. Not everyone thinks like you! I love medicine and it's my dream to be a doctor. Settling for me would be like going into data entry or something boring. And just the thought of finance makes me sleepy.
 
Forgive my absence. I had business to attend to. Anyways, now that I'm back I can prove my point.

Imagine a pediatric heart surgeon dies. Would hundreds of children die in the absence of his treatment? No, because another money-hungry, prestige-grubbing medical student would be lining up instantly to take his place.

Now imagine a medical researcher died the day before he discovered the cure for cancer. Hundreds of cancer patients would die because they would miss out on the treatment he had discovered. But none of you medical students are like this researcher. You're just another cog in the wheel, much like an assembly line worker or a janitor. You can be replaced in a second by any of the students scrambling to get into med-school. If you think you're making a difference in the world you're deluded.

dumb dumb DEE dumb, dumb dumb dee dumb dumb.

sorry you got that song stuck in my head.

yeah anyways. quoting eleanor roosevelt, "nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent." just had to say it.

just do what you need to do and get over it. in the real world, you will meet much worse people than those who dare carry their books.
 
Not a troll thread. I meant absolutely every word.

But I see your point. For some reason some of my fellow engineering majors somehow developed a sense of superiority over everyone else. This is of course ridiculous as these students are largely successful due to their poor social skills, unattractive appearances, and complete lack of social life allocating plenty of free time to devote to their studies. Neither they nor I will ever really do anything significant and will most likely end up as salaried employees saving for retirement.

At least both you and I are humble enough to recognize that neither one of us are anywhere close to intelligent. If we were smart I'm sure we could find more interesting things to do with our time than browse SDN. Unfortunately, both of us are hindered by our sub-par intelligence and must settle with the roles with which we are actually capable. For you, that seems to be medicine, and I'm just a modest, typical engineering student.

:troll:

:poke::poke::poke::poke: Bad troll. Stop lying. :poke::poke::poke::poke:

:troll:
 
look at those dead little eyes. reminds me of miley.
 
So by your logic, OP:

Intelligent = PhD in quantitative finance at Yale
PhD in quantitative finance at Yale = career on Wall Street
career on Wall Street = Corporate America
Corporate America = Increasing Profits
Increasing Profits = Increasing $$$$

Therefore Intelligent = Increasing $$$$
Not a troll thread. I meant absolutely every word.

At least both you and I are humble enough to recognize that neither one of us are anywhere close to intelligent. If we were smart I'm sure we could find more interesting things to do with our time than browse SDN. Unfortunately, both of us are hindered by our sub-par intelligence and must settle with the roles with which we are actually capable. For you, that seems to be medicine, and I'm just a modest, typical engineering student.
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Not a troll thread. I meant absolutely every word.

But I see your point. For some reason some of my fellow engineering majors somehow developed a sense of superiority over everyone else. This is of course ridiculous as these students are largely successful due to their poor social skills, unattractive appearances, and complete lack of social life allocating plenty of free time to devote to their studies. Neither they nor I will ever really do anything significant and will most likely end up as salaried employees saving for retirement.

At least both you and I are humble enough to recognize that neither one of us are anywhere close to intelligent. If we were smart I'm sure we could find more interesting things to do with our time than browse SDN. Unfortunately, both of us are hindered by our sub-par intelligence and must settle with the roles with which we are actually capable. For you, that seems to be medicine, and I'm just a modest, typical engineering student.

Hate to break it to you, but this is probably what you will end up doing as a physician too.
 
Not a troll thread, just a wake-up call. Notice how you defended yourself here:



The fact that you feel the need to defend the intelligence of pre-meds shows that you, along with all medical students, regard yourself highly. Well, guess what, intelligent people aren't becoming radiologists. Intelligent people who only care about money go into quantitative roles in finance, and the ones that don't care about money are going into fields they're passionate about. Granted, that may be medicine, but more than likely it would be medical research.

If you think about it, doctors are really nothing more than mechanics for the human body. They simply regurgitate information that medical researchers discovered. Thousands of years from now, they could be replaced by robots. Researchers, though- the people that actually make a difference in the world and help people- could never be replaced.

Lol, Any job can be replaced by robots. Come back here if you get into medical school and make it to third year, then tell us how easy it is.
 
Wow. This has actually been the most successful troll thread on SDN I've ever seen. Congrats OP, I award you a gold star.
 
Wow. This has actually been the most successful troll thread on SDN I've ever seen. Congrats OP, I award you a gold star.

It had to be done. Pre-med students that make it past organic chemistry are so far up their own ass that someone had to take them down a peg and remind them how insignificant they truly are. The success of this thread can be attributed to the shock and awe most pre-meds encounter as they find their heads yanked out of the sheltered realm of their inner rectum and into the light where they can face reality for what it is.
 
It had to be done. Pre-med students that make it past organic chemistry are so far up their own ass that someone had to take them down a peg and remind them how insignificant they truly are. The success of this thread can be attributed to the shock and awe most pre-meds encounter as they find their heads yanked out of the sheltered realm of their inner rectum and into the light where they can face reality for what it is.

I mean, some of these kids are only getting 102 out of 104. Amirite, Zhong Ying?

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It had to be done. Pre-med students that make it past organic chemistry are so far up their own ass that someone had to take them down a peg and remind them how insignificant they truly are. The success of this thread can be attributed to the shock and awe most pre-meds encounter as they find their heads yanked out of the sheltered realm of their inner rectum and into the light where they can face reality for what it is.

It seems unlikely to me that your posting here will have any effect on the premeds that bother you so much. You're giving yourself quite a lot of credit.
 
It had to be done. Pre-med students that make it past organic chemistry are so far up their own ass that someone had to take them down a peg and remind them how insignificant they truly are. The success of this thread can be attributed to the shock and awe most pre-meds encounter as they find their heads yanked out of the sheltered realm of their inner rectum and into the light where they can face reality for what it is.

@first bolded U mad bro? :naughty::naughty:

@second bolded. Why don't you try that out before you go on advising us?
 
Forgive my absence. I had business to attend to. Anyways, now that I'm back I can prove my point.

Imagine a pediatric heart surgeon dies. Would hundreds of children die in the absence of his treatment? No, because another money-hungry, prestige-grubbing medical student would be lining up instantly to take his place.

Now imagine a medical researcher died the day before he discovered the cure for cancer. Hundreds of cancer patients would die because they would miss out on the treatment he had discovered. But none of you medical students are like this researcher. You're just another cog in the wheel, much like an assembly line worker or a janitor. You can be replaced in a second by any of the students scrambling to get into med-school. If you think you're making a difference in the world you're deluded.

You know, because principal investigators don't confer their expertise unto the postdocs that they spend years training to continue on similar research....

.....idiot.

Did you ever get vaccinated? Thank Dr. Salk, M.D. Do you have diabetes? No? How can you be so sure? Thank Frederick Banting, MD for discovering and characterizing insulin. Thank Dr.'s Goldstein and Brown (both MD) for noticing the pattern of strokes and hypertension in children that prompted their investigation and discovery of the LDL receptor and its role in cholesterol metabolism. How about Dr. Krebs, for providing us with a framework of bioenergetics? Yep, he was a physician.


So, get off your high horse. Physicians and scientists work collaboratively to advance our understanding of disease and the medical community's ability to treat. True, medicine does not stand on its own two legs, but without the medical profession, we would be at a loss to realize the impact of key scientific discoveries for the collective benefit of humanity.


Enjoy measuring the mechanical stress an alloy can withstand, enjoy studying biofilms, or novel energy sources, whatever value you think you will bring to impact society. The rest of us plan on touching peoples lives directly, and don't you ever again dare vilify that privilege many of us have worked/are working diligently to earn.
 
I'm currently an undergraduate at the University of California and many of the pre-med students I've come across are horrendously arrogant. They make jokes about the business majors being stupid and the liberal arts majors wasting their time. They carry the most arrogant expressions and often treat other students as dirt. They always complain about how much time they have to spend studying for their courses and are sure to carry their organic chemistry textbook around in their hand rather than their backpack so everyone can see they're pre-med.

I'm not really sure how they've come to be so arrogant, though. If they were really intelligent, wouldn't they be aiming for a PhD in quantitative finance at Yale where they would set themselves up for a career on Wall Street? But of course, none of these mediocre students have nearly the quantitative skills to make it in high finance. These aren't kids with perfect SAT scores or photographic memories we're dealing with. These are you just your average joe-bloe biology majors who thinks that getting an A- in organic chemistry at podunk state university warrants a sense of superiority over everyone else. Does anyone else find this odd? After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?

Its common to think this way because its the only way to justify to yourself studying so much more than your peers doing arts. Pre-meds need to make themselves feel superior in order to justify them spending hours in the library while their arts friends are partying and travelling.
 
I'm currently an undergraduate at the University of California and many of the pre-med students I've come across are horrendously arrogant. They make jokes about the business majors being stupid and the liberal arts majors wasting their time. They carry the most arrogant expressions and often treat other students as dirt. They always complain about how much time they have to spend studying for their courses and are sure to carry their organic chemistry textbook around in their hand rather than their backpack so everyone can see they're pre-med.

I'm not really sure how they've come to be so arrogant, though. If they were really intelligent, wouldn't they be aiming for a PhD in quantitative finance at Yale where they would set themselves up for a career on Wall Street? But of course, none of these mediocre students have nearly the quantitative skills to make it in high finance. These aren't kids with perfect SAT scores or photographic memories we're dealing with. These are you just your average joe-bloe biology majors who thinks that getting an A- in organic chemistry at podunk state university warrants a sense of superiority over everyone else. Does anyone else find this odd? After all, with over 140 med-schools in the country, getting into one really can't be all that difficult, so where does this sense of superiority come from?

And you my friend are a pre-dent. Lol.
 
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