Why do people hate Trump?

[wagrxm2000]

Sure. He may have colluded with a foreign power to win the election, he's woefully ignorant of the responsibility he's taken on (which I could forgive if he were willing to learn, but he isn't), he said that Nazis were "fine people", he somehow managed to run a casino into bankruptcy, he has a disturbing authoritarian streak, he wants to suppress the media unless they agree with him, and he's at Mar-a-Lago golfing almost every weekend.

So nothing against what he's trying to do. It's the same thing everytime for people. What I wanted was what he is doing wrong from an actual political point. Oh and war isn't the worst thing if it stops North Korea from starting it first if that's what you say next.

I actually think there's zero percent chance a war starts.

Aren't all politicians corrupt?

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[boriqua]

I for one, don't have a problem with his attitude and the way he talks and acts. It's a New York thing. If you do, You should turn off the Mainstream media. They focus on every word he says. Just focus on the policies. If you are all working people, tax cuts should be good for you as well as the stock market gains. I like having a real estate guy in office too because I own 2 rental properties. Hopefully his tax policies will be friendly to investors

 

[Sine Cura]

Here's a few Republicans might dislike, depending on what "faction."

If you are a non-interventionist, you probably didn't like Trump launching cruise missiles at Syria or saber-rattling with NK.

If you are a protectionist, where are the tariffs?

If you are a nativist, Trump hasn't even tried to get rid of Syrian refugees. He can end DACA with a pen stroke

No congressional term limits.

No real health care reform.

 

[boriqua]

Here's a few Republicans might dislike, depending on what "faction."

If you are a non-interventionist, you probably didn't like Trump launching cruise missiles at Syria or saber-rattling with NK.

If you are a protectionist, where are the tariffs?

If you are a nativist, Trump hasn't even tried to get rid of Syrian refugees. He can end DACA with a pen stroke

No congressional term limits.

No real health care reform.

You can add "yet" to the end of your post. remember, it's only been 10 months.
I didn't agree with syria strikes so concede to that.
He has cut the refugee program to 45,000 instead of 100,000. As for daca, i'll see what happens with it. Sure, he can end it with a pen stroke but why not use it to leverage the dems?

 

[Dalteparin]

So nothing against what he's trying to do. It's the same thing everytime for people. What I wanted was what he is doing wrong from an actual political point. Oh and war isn't the worst thing if it stops North Korea from starting it first if that's what you say next.

I actually think there's zero percent chance a war starts.

Aren't all politicians corrupt?

1. War with NK "isn't the worst thing"? Are you freaking kidding me over here? If war breaks out with NK, best chance scenario is that millions of South Koreans (who, I must remind you, are our allies), are dead in a few hours. Worst case scenario, they break out the nukes and we're living in The Day After. I wish I shared your optimism about the likelihood of war, I really do.

2. Of course all politicians are corrupt. But if you can't see why colluding with a foreign power in order to win is beyond the pale, I really don't know what to tell you.

3. For both you and @boriqua, the issue with him golfing is an issue of spending. Republicans are supposed to be the fiscally responsible party, or at least that's what we were when I registered. People rightfully complained all the time about how much Obama spend on vacations; Trump has been in office less than a year and is already on track to spend more than that on vacations, not to mention the fact that it cost (conservative estimate) ~$150K per day for Melania and Barron to live at Trump Tower instead of the White House for the first few months of Trump's presidency.

4. So, more on what he's trying to do: most of his Cabinet appointees are either wildly incompetent (Betsy DeVos) or actively opposed to the mission of the agencies they're supposed to run (Scott Pruitt). As I said, I'm not a fan of how he baits NK; the last thing this country needs is another unnecessary war. Supposedly he wanted to build a wall - great idea, building it would create jobs! - hasn't done it. Actually, he hasn't done much of anything other than golf and crap all over Gold Star families. Edited to add this: Many of the folks I know who voted for Trump did so because they thought he'd nominate a Scalia-esque pro-lifer to the SCOTUS and get Roe v. Wade overturned. And look how that worked out: Gorsuch to Feinstein: Abortion ruling is 'precedent'

5. As for the way he talks and acts, I very much doubt it's a "New York thing" - most NYers I've known, and I've known quite a few, are straight shooters but they at least know how to be polite.

If he was an "authoritarian", he would be jailing journalists and dismantling congressional powers. think erdogan and maduro. Which media has he suppressed and with what law?

Wait. It's coming. Even If Trump’s Threat against NBC Isn’t Serious, It’s Still Destructive

Also, seriously, stop bringing up Hillary. Nobody cares about her.

 

[wagrxm2000]

Basically all you said in that ramble is you'd rather have North Korea strike first and you don't like his cabinet picks because they have a different view then you. Oh and a bunch of stuff that once again has nothing to do with what he's trying to do.

 

[Old Timer]

more evidence that hillary colluded with a foreign power(paid millions for dossier). not everybody on the right that was in charlottesville was a nazi and not everybody on the left was an antifa terrorist. Many casinos in atlantic city have declared bankruptcy. That place completely went under. If he was an "authoritarian", he would be jailing journalists and dismantling congressional powers. think erdogan and maduro. Which media has he suppressed and with what law? calling someone "fake news" is not authoratively suppressing them. As for golfing, he's keeping most of his campaign promises while also working on the rest of them. Not sure what the problem with him golfing is.

OK. I don't want to get kicked off for violating the terms of service. But this is the most *****ic post I have seen in along time. Do you IV the Kool Aid? Let's take your propaganda one piece at a time.

First, Clinton did not collide with anyone. Paying for opposition research is not colluding. They hired the same company as the Washington Free Beacon a right wing Republican leaning newspaper. The Free Beacon hired a company called Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump during the primary. The DNC started working with Fusion GPS during the general election. Just because Fusion GPS hired a former MI5 agent to do the research, does not mean they colluded with a foreign government. The British government had nothing to do with it. So, no there is no collusion.

His reaction to Charlottesville was schizophrenic at best. There were not good people on both sides. This was a Neo-Nazi protest. Then they were bad then they were ok again. But there is no doubt except amongst the Jool-Aid drinkers that the 3 Antifa protesters were the moral equivalent of the Neo Nazis.

Finally calling the press the "Enemy of the people" is Stalinesque in it's authoritarianism. A free press is necessary, according to the founders the right claims to champion, for the functioning of a free society.

The problem with his golfing is he spent the whole Obama administration complaining that Obama golfed too much. Swore he would never golf as he would be too busy to golf and them golfed more frequently than Obama. That makes him a liar and a hypocrite.

The only promises he kept were getting the Supreme Court Nominee confirmed, reversing Obama regulations and getting out of TPP.

 

[ldiot]

Any Republicans want to say what Trump has done wrong other then they don't like his personality?

Even if there was absolutely no collusion between Trump and Russia, his positive comments about Putin still piss me off. If the USA engages N. Korea, Russia will probably take advantage of the situation and move into Donbass. How will the USA respond? This is the biggest concern that I have with Trump in terms of foreign policy. I'm not sure that he would do much to help Ukraine which scares me. As far as N. Korea and Iran, I think he has done well thus far and I agree with his stance. The Obama strategy of appeasement and accommodation does not work with countries such as Iran, N. Korea, and Russia.

As far as domestic policy, I have no objection to tax cuts, trashing Obama care, deregulation, and building a wall, but none of this has happened. I more so blame the republican congress for this. They said they would repeal Obamacare, and they lied. There's no excuse. I'm starting to think that the republicans love big government as much as the left.

 

[Old Timer]

Even if there was absolutely no collusion between Trump and Russia, his positive comments about Putin still piss me off. If the USA engages N. Korea, Russia will probably take advantage of the situation and move into Donbass. How will the USA respond? This is the biggest concern that I have with Trump in terms of foreign policy. I'm not sure that he would do much to help Ukraine which scares me. As far as N. Korea and Iran, I think he has done well thus far and I agree with his stance. The Obama strategy of appeasement and accommodation does not work with countries such as Iran, N. Korea, and Russia.

As far as domestic policy, I have no objection to tax cuts, trashing Obama care, deregulation, and building a wall, but none of this has happened. I more so blame the republican congress for this. They said they would repeal Obamacare, and they lied. There's no excuse. I'm starting to think that the republicans love big government as much as the left.

Really you have no clue.... The regime in North Korea only cares about staying around. Once the Orange turd monster started threatening them, they have moved forward towards nukes at a much faster pace...... Everyone knows in a war of any kind, we would wipe them off the face of the earth. They want to be in a position to really hurt us. Nukes keep us from hitting them first.....As long as we keep threatening them he is going to move faster. If we hit them, millions of Koreans will die. There is no good solution except to dial back the rhetoric. The man with biggest cock in the room doesn't understand that......

 

[ldiot]

Really you have no clue.... The regime in North Korea only cares about staying around. Once the Orange turd monster started threatening them, they have moved forward towards nukes at a much faster pace...... Everyone knows in a war of any kind, we would wipe them off the face of the earth. They want to be in a position to really hurt us. Nukes keep us from hitting them first.....As long as we keep threatening them he is going to move faster. If we hit them, millions of Koreans will die. There is no good solution except to dial back the rhetoric. The man with biggest cock in the room doesn't understand that......

Can we not act like adults? The insults are kind of inappropriate. Do you believe that it is acceptable for North Korea to posses nuclear weapons? There is no purpose in discussing a solution to the problem if we do not first agree on the answer to the first question.

Korea has agreed multiple times to give up there nuclear program, yet here we are today. Are we not making the same mistake with Iran? Is there a diplomatic solution when every agreement we have made has only bought our enemy more time? Does this not enable other enemies to threaten us through a proxy, or at a minimum give them greater leverage and influence on the world stage? China and Russia and very opportunistic, and the uncertainty/instability introduced by situations such as this leads to opportunity for them. They are making alliances with all of our enemies while we sit on our hands.

The fact is that non of us have the intel to form an opinion on what we should be doing going forward, but it is unquestionable that the best case scenario is denuclearization, not accommodation.

 

[Jojos]

probably the fact that he is a misogynist and a demagogue....

 

[SClENCE]

Really you have no clue.... The regime in North Korea only cares about staying around. Once the Orange turd monster started threatening them, they have moved forward towards nukes at a much faster pace...... Everyone knows in a war of any kind, we would wipe them off the face of the earth. They want to be in a position to really hurt us. Nukes keep us from hitting them first.....As long as we keep threatening them he is going to move faster. If we hit them, millions of Koreans will die. There is no good solution except to dial back the rhetoric. The man with biggest cock in the room doesn't understand that......

Everyone wants a diplomatic solution, it sounds nice and happy, but it's the reason why NK is able to hold the USA and our allies hostage today. This is the fact that our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to accept. How do I know? They are still defending the Iran deal while at the same time NK threatens to nuke us. They have learned nothing. Our enemies do not respond to diplomacy, they respond to leverage and force. The same holds true with Russia. If they try to undermine us, we must make them feel pain in some way, shape, or form, otherwise they will continue. Symbolic acts, such as expelling Russian diplomats, for example, does absolutely nothing. They should have been expelled just for fun, and then we should have passed tough sanctions, not some symbolic garbage with no teeth.

 

[boriqua]

OK. I don't want to get kicked off for violating the terms of service. But this is the most *****ic post I have seen in along time. Do you IV the Kool Aid? Let's take your propaganda one piece at a time.

First, Clinton did not collide with anyone. Paying for opposition research is not colluding. They hired the same company as the Washington Free Beacon a right wing Republican leaning newspaper. The Free Beacon hired a company called Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump during the primary. The DNC started working with Fusion GPS during the general election. Just because Fusion GPS hired a former MI5 agent to do the research, does not mean they colluded with a foreign government. The British government had nothing to do with it. So, no there is no collusion.

His reaction to Charlottesville was schizophrenic at best. There were not good people on both sides. This was a Neo-Nazi protest. Then they were bad then they were ok again. But there is no doubt except amongst the Jool-Aid drinkers that the 3 Antifa protesters were the moral equivalent of the Neo Nazis.

Finally calling the press the "Enemy of the people" is Stalinesque in it's authoritarianism. A free press is necessary, according to the founders the right claims to champion, for the functioning of a free society.

The problem with his golfing is he spent the whole Obama administration complaining that Obama golfed too much. Swore he would never golf as he would be too busy to golf and them golfed more frequently than Obama. That makes him a liar and a hypocrite.

The only promises he kept were getting the Supreme Court Nominee confirmed, reversing Obama regulations and getting out of TPP.

Funny I heard getting opposition research was one of the worst things in the world and automatic 100% proof of collusion when the accusations were against trump jr. All of a sudden, paying for opposition research is not colluding. You can't have it both ways. The glaring double standard is one of the many reasons why Clinton lost.

Your Charlottesville comment is all over the place and makes no sense. You should read up more about what happened there that day.

Spare me the hyperbole. Stalin murdered nearly 50 million people including many journalists and reporters. Trump said some words. That comparison is nothing short of ridiculous.

I'm really not sure why you care so much about his golfing. He's getting stuff done. Sure, he said he wasn't gonna golf and now he's golfing. Who cares? I don't know why this affects your life. Quite frankly Everything you said that pisses you off about trump seems like what the mainstream media is telling you to be pissed off about. Speaking of drinking the kool-aid...

There are many more promises that he kept but it seems like I wont be able to have a rational conversation with you without you getting triggered. So I won't bother listing them. Have a good one.

 

[Old Timer]

Funny I heard getting opposition research was one of the worst things in the world and automatic 100% proof of collusion when the accusations were against trump jr. All of a sudden, paying for opposition research is not colluding. You can't have it both ways. The glaring double standard is one of the many reasons why Clinton lost.

No, all campaigns do opposition research. Only ONE campaign is accused of getting the Oppo from a hostile foreign power.

Spare me the hyperbole. Stalin murdered nearly 50 million people including many journalists and reporters. Trump said some words. That comparison is nothing short of ridiculous.

No it is not hyperbolic at all. The line started with Lenin and was used by the Communists as an excuse to kill and imprison those who held views antithetical to the communist regime. Trump should not be quoting Lenin and his murderous successors.

I'm really not sure why you care so much about his golfing. He's getting stuff done. Sure, he said he wasn't gonna golf and now he's golfing. Who cares? I don't know why this affects your life. Quite frankly Everything you said that pisses you off about trump seems like what the mainstream media is telling you to be pissed off about. Speaking of drinking the kool-aid...

I honestly don't care what he does. I find it ironic that the Orange Sphincter spent the entire Obama Presidency excoriating President Obama for golfing too much, is quoted as saying he would NEVER take off, he would be too busy and then goes on vacation more than Obama. So another words, don't pay any attention to what he says........

 

[Dred Pirate]

the issues in this thread will contribute to why people hate trump -

Ready to pay more taxes!??

But then again, it is easier to fool someone that convince them they have been fooled.

 

[Dalteparin]

Basically all you said in that ramble is you'd rather have North Korea strike first and you don't like his cabinet picks because they have a different view then you. Oh and a bunch of stuff that once again has nothing to do with what he's trying to do.

You clearly didn't read what I wrote. We're done here.

 

[wagrxm2000]

You clearly didn't read what I wrote. We're done here.

You may want to reread what you put then. Trump is trying to do exactly what Republicans want to see.

 

[Corpseman]

Funny people far away from the border want this wall built, but those of us who live on the border for the most part do not.

 

[Old]

Sure. He may have colluded with a foreign power to win the election, he's woefully ignorant of the responsibility he's taken on (which I could forgive if he were willing to learn, but he isn't), he said that Nazis were "fine people", he somehow managed to run a casino into bankruptcy, he has a disturbing authoritarian streak, he wants to suppress the media unless they agree with him, and he's at Mar-a-Lago golfing almost every weekend.

You know I have to wonder if very many of the trump supporters, that can read, feel foolish for believing all the Russian ads promoting trump in the election that were on facebook and twitter. They even went to the rallies promoted by the Russians to further divide us. I worked with people who believed all that garbage. One even said to me that she, and her fellow church people, hated Obama because he would not declare that we were in a Holy War with Islam. Said we could never defeat them until we declared them the enemy. I asked her what did Holy War mean exactly. Well, she didn't know but that is what their minister told them.

 

[Modest_anteater]

We had a thread for Obama so it seemed only right to have one for Trump.

Is it because he is orange? Shouldn't we be past that sort of stereotype in 2017?

I'm not very political but from the little I have seen online about president Trump he seems to have said some somewhat derogatory remarks towards certain groups of people. Mocking disabled individuals, calling all Mexicans rapists, Chinese are creating global warming as a scam, grab women by the p****y are some examples.

I don't know if it's true he said these things or if it's made up by "fake news" but if he said these statements it certainly seem like original research by him. It also seems pretty immature and non-sensitive to categorize an entire group for the bad actions of a few. Also differently-abled people have it rough enough, i think it's in pretty bad taste to mock blind people and people in wheelchairs.

 

[PharmDBro2017]

You know I have to wonder if very many of the trump supporters, that can read, feel foolish for believing all the Russian ads promoting trump in the election that were on facebook and twitter. They even went to the rallies promoted by the Russians to further divide us. I worked with people who believed all that garbage. One even said to me that she, and her fellow church people, hated Obama because he would not declare that we were in a Holy War with Islam. Said we could never defeat them until we declared them the enemy. I asked her what did Holy War mean exactly. Well, she didn't know but that is what their minister told them.

You actually think one of those Russian FB memes were the sole reason that someone voted Trump?

This is like Hilliary grasping for straws on why she didn't get votes all over again...

 

[Pharmd = Phake Doctor]

I'm not very political but from the little I have seen online about president Trump he seems to have said some somewhat derogatory remarks towards certain groups of people. Mocking disabled individuals, calling all Mexicans rapists, Chinese are creating global warming as a scam, grab women by the p****y are some examples.

I don't know if it's true he said these things or if it's made up by "fake news" but if he said these statements it certainly seem like original research by him. It also seems pretty immature and non-sensitive to categorize an entire group for the bad actions of a few. Also differently-abled people have it rough enough, i think it's in pretty bad taste to mock blind people and people in wheelchairs.

Were you in a coma for the last 2 years???

 

[owlegrad]

You actually think one of those Russian FB memes were the sole reason that someone voted Trump?

This is like Hilliary grasping for straws on why she didn't get votes all over again...

Do you think ads have no influence on elections? If that's the case politicians should save their money.

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[Modest_anteater]

Were you in a coma for the last 2 years???

Hello good sir. Im not sure what you mean. I have not been in a coma. Im not really into politics so all i know is what ppl tell me and what i see on the internet. I apologize if i insulted you somehow

 

[Bareitashvilli]

Any Republicans want to say what Trump has done wrong other then they don't like his personality?

I think he has bad leadership skills, a good leader calms the people down and inspires harmony.
And this doesn't even have to do with politics, not completely anyway.

Could be anywhere basketball coach, army general, boss of a company. Working in Harmony is much better than squabbling amongst ourselves.

President Obama handled 'hecklers' in a superior fashion. I don't have evidence for what I am about to say, but it was my impression anyway: my impression is that he even makes the hecklers feel safe to express themselves, he doesn't insult them. And I think this earns him their respect.
Plus heckling in a crowd full of people who think differently than you can get you punched. But with Obama there you can say what you want without fear of that.

Plus of what Obama said once: I think the world would be better if we were more kind and respectful to each other. That was just basic decency right there

Does trump exhibit that? No way.

 

[wagrxm2000]

I think he has bad leadership skills, a good leader calms the people down and inspires harmony.
And this doesn't even have to do with politics, not completely anyway.

Could be anywhere basketball coach, army general, boss of a company. Working in Harmony is much better than squabbling amongst ourselves.

President Obama handled 'hecklers' in a superior fashion. I don't have evidence for what I am about to say, but it was my impression anyway: my impression is that he even makes the hecklers feel safe to express themselves, he doesn't insult them. And I think this earns him their respect.
Plus heckling in a crowd full of people who think differently than you can get you punched. But with Obama there you can say what you want without fear of that.

Plus of what Obama said once: I think the world would be better if we were more kind and respectful to each other. That was just basic decency right there

Does trump exhibit that? No way.

So once again personality. Look I've never denied he's a horrible human being.

Trump is getting things done whether people want to believe it or not. There's nothing say Cruz would be trying to do that Trump isn't also doing.

 

[JamesL1585]

So once again personality. Look I've never denied he's a horrible human being.

Trump is getting things done whether people want to believe it or not. There's nothing say Cruz would be trying to do that Trump isn't also doing.

This explains everything.

 

[Bareitashvilli]

So once again personality. Look I've never denied he's a horrible human being.

Trump is getting things done whether people want to believe it or not. There's nothing say Cruz would be trying to do that Trump isn't also doing.

We'll see that's the thing, if cruz would
Be doing the same things at least he would be better at handling the public and keeping things in order which is ultimately more important overall. Not using twitter all the time and constantly causing controversy.

 

[wagrxm2000]

We'll see that's the thing, if cruz would
Be doing the same things at least he would be better at handling the public and keeping things in order which is ultimately more important overall. Not using twitter all the time and constantly causing controversy.

America knew what it was getting itself into when they elected him. It did help that Hilary was his opponent.

 

[mikejones123]

So once again personality. Look I've never denied he's a horrible human being.

Trump is getting things done whether people want to believe it or not. There's nothing say Cruz would be trying to do that Trump isn't also doing.

Getting things done like what???

No wall
No repeal and replace obamacare
Flip flopped on DACA
flip flopped on trade deals
Tax plan is just a redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1 percent...I doubt it even passes

He hasn't even fulfilled the promised he made to his dumb supporters

So what has he done??
ban trannies from the military....big deal


The guy is incompetent and over this head.
I could care less that he is a horrible person and panders to racists for support.

Bottom line is...he has no coherent vision for this country because he lacks the knowledge to articulate a real vision

But trumptards like you will support him and make excuses for him no matter what

And whataboutthis is not a good defense.

 

[Abby Atwood]

So once again personality. Look I've never denied he's a horrible human being.

Trump is getting things done whether people want to believe it or not. There's nothing say Cruz would be trying to do that Trump isn't also doing.

Are we considering his discrimination against people based on race and gender identity to be a personality issue? If so, my problem with him isn’t exclusively based on personality; however, it is a major component.

I can respect people with different political positions. I was a supporter of the TPP and I think pulling out of that trade deal was a huge mistake, but I can have a civil conversation with someone who holds a different position. I can’t respect someone who uses a political platform to harm the people around me in a targeted and discriminatory manner.

It seems kind of silly to say that someone can’t dislike a president because of things he has done in the past.

 

[wagrxm2000]

Are we considering his discrimination against people based on race and gender identity to be a personality issue? If so, my problem with him isn’t exclusively based on personality; however, it is a major component.

I can respect people with different political positions. I was a supporter of the TPP and I think pulling out of that trade deal was a huge mistake, but I can have a civil conversation with someone who holds a different position. I can’t respect someone who uses a political platform to harm the people around me in a targeted and discriminatory manner.

It seems kind of silly to say that someone can’t dislike a president because of things he has done in the past.

That's fine that you don't like him, I don't either. I'd rather have him though then Bernie and giving away all my hard earned salary.

There's a lot of things we think to ourselves but don't say out loud, unfortunately Trump does say those things. Unlike other people, I choose to not let it offend me.

This part doesn't apply to you but a different person, the president can only do so much. Unfortunately all politicians think about themselves and if they think a policy won't get them reelected, they won't back it. Look at tax reform. There's going to be Republicans in places that know it affects their state badly so they will not vote for it.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Getting things done like what???

.

Supreme Court Justice appointed

 

[Bareitashvilli]

America knew what it was getting itself into when they elected him. It did help that Hilary was his opponent.

Then I don't know why they even voted for him then

 

[Modest_anteater]

America knew what it was getting itself into when they elected him. It did help that Hilary was his opponent.

Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton
Party Republican Democratic
Home state New York New York
Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine
Electoral vote 304[a][2] 227[a][2]
States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC
Popular vote 62,984,825[3] 65,853,516[3]
Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Well actually America didn't vote for him. He lost the popular vote by MILLIONS. The electorial college voted him in even though he lost the democratic election. MOST Americans did not want Trump as president.

 

[wagrxm2000]

Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton
Party Republican Democratic
Home state New York New York
Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine
Electoral vote 304[a][2] 227[a][2]
States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC
Popular vote 62,984,825[3] 65,853,516[3]
Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

Well actually America didn't vote for him. He lost the popular vote by MILLIONS. The electorial college voted him in even though he lost the democratic election. MOST Americans did not want Trump as president.

I can't argue that lol.

I can say most didn't want Hilary either.

Unfortunately as long as we have parties, there will be a division.

 

[8turkeys]

A lot of people are brining up "war". To be technical, he has been the most peaceful president as of yet in the last 20 years. Not a single war has been started, unlike every other president.

 

[Old]

You actually think one of those Russian FB memes were the sole reason that someone voted Trump?

This is like Hilliary grasping for straws on why she didn't get votes all over again...

Before I respond I would like you to pick up a magazine, newspaper, watch tv , visit websites etc and look at all the ads that are on there. Could you please tell me, and I guess everyone here, why they are there? Who pays for them and why? Why do they keep paying for them. why are ads during the superbowl so expensive? take your time and think about it. I will check back in a week or so. Feel free to ask your friends if you need help.

 

[Pharmd = Phake Doctor]

Hello good sir. Im not sure what you mean. I have not been in a coma. Im not really into politics so all i know is what ppl tell me and what i see on the internet. I apologize if i insulted you somehow

I'm not angry or offended, but I find it hard to believe you've avoided TRUMP these past two years. We've been living in the TRUMP era since June 16, 2015.

 

[owlegrad]

I'm not angry or offended, but I find it hard to believe you've avoided TRUMP these past two years. We've been living in the TRUMP era since June 16, 2015.

Give him a break, he's not that into politics. Obviously he never watches or reads any news, listens to the radio, gets on facebook, or in general interacts with other humans. He does know what people tell him and what he reads on the internet though.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

. MOST Americans did not want Trump as president.

That is completely and utter nonsense. Clinton got around 65 million votes. There are over 300 million Americans. So roughly 21% of Americans didn't want Trump.

Let's even us registered voters which amounts to 140 million people. Clinton still only got 46%. So its not even a majority of registered voters who didn't want Trump.

 

[zelman]

That is completely and utter nonsense. Clinton got around 65 million votes. There are over 300 million Americans. So roughly 21% of Americans didn't want Trump.

Let's even us registered voters which amounts to 140 million people. Clinton still only got 46%. So its not even a majority of registered voters who didn't want Trump.

You're conflating "voted for Hilldog" and "didn't want Trump"

 

[Dred Pirate]

That is completely and utter nonsense. Clinton got around 65 million votes. There are over 300 million Americans. So roughly 21% of Americans didn't want Trump.

Let's even us registered voters which amounts to 140 million people. Clinton still only got 46%. So its not even a majority of registered voters who didn't want Trump.

that sounds like some fox news type of stats

 

[Old Timer]

That is completely and utter nonsense. Clinton got around 65 million votes. There are over 300 million Americans. So roughly 21% of Americans didn't want Trump.

Let's even us registered voters which amounts to 140 million people. Clinton still only got 46%. So its not even a majority of registered voters who didn't want Trump.

Turnout has been this way since the beginning of time. We don't count it that way.....

 

[wagrxm2000]

I think the majority of Americans know that no matter who is President, nothing ever gets done.

Even if Bernie would have won, nothing would have gotten voted in so at least we might get some change. That's a big might.

 

[d2rx]

So can someone tell me how the proposed tax reform will benefit you and your family? Why are you against it or for it?

 

[mustang sally]

So can someone tell me how the proposed tax reform will benefit you and your family? Why are you against it or for it?

I'm kind of neutral on it right now.

My tax bracket likely won't change, which I'm okay with. I thought it was a good thing at first that the standard deduction would be so much larger (pretty sure it's more than what we itemized last year), but now I'm reading it's tied to the elimination of personal exemptions, so it probably won't benefit my family too much.

I'm thinking my taxes won't change significantly in either direction, but only time will tell.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

You're conflating "voted for Hilldog" and "didn't want Trump"

Very true, but the only way we get a majority of anything who didn't want Trump is if we assume that registered voters who didn't vote didn't want Trump.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

that sounds like some fox news type of stats

Admittedly I did get those numbers from Wikipedia, but I think I can be trusted to do basic arithmetic (especially since I didn't even vote for Trump).

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Turnout has been this way since the beginning of time. We don't count it that way.....

Interestingly, I was curious how often someone was elected despite not getting at least 50% of the popular vote (which by your definition means a majority of Americans did not want them to be president).

Apparently, it is happened at least 20 times. The American people really didn't want Kennedy, Nixon, Wilson or Clinton either time, and many more.

List of United States presidential elections by popular vote margin - Wikipedia