Why do people have such a bad attitude in lecture

[smq123]

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smq123 you are so funny. 😀 😉 I hope that med school will be ejoyable too. I know that it is a lot of work and I give a 👍 to you guys that are already there. Just hang in there and try to be supportive of one another. 🙂

P.S. Just b/c I'm premed doesn't mean that I'm stupid either, You might just try to listen to people sometimes!! You have no idea what affiliations other people have.

I never said that you were stupid. If you got the impression that I thought that you were, I apologize.

I guess I do think that you're inexperienced when it comes to med school. I have to admit, I used to do the same thing too. When I was in high school, my sister was in med school. I occasionally used to tell her how to run her life, what to study, how much to sleep, etc. I don't know how she managed to avoid killing me.

I was serious when I said that, if you hate people telling you what to do, you'll hate med school. Last week, we had to work with standardized patients. My SP told me, lectured me, because I was doing the ophtho exam "incorrectly." He said that a correct exam is done with the examiner's RIGHT eye to the patient's LEFT eye. Even though I knew that this was incorrect, since you're not supposed to argue with the standardized patient, I just shut up and did it his way. Needless to say, since his free eye couldn't focus, his examined eye was jumping everywhere, and finding the fundus was impossible. More importantly, in that position, my lips were MILLIMETERS away from his lips. And this SP was old enough to be my grandfather. Eww, eww, eww.

I don't like SPs telling me what to do. But I shut up and do what they say anyway.

 

[Church]

SMQ, I feel it. My sister went through med school while I was still in the military prepping to go to med school, and she kept telling me how hard it would be, etc, and I gave her the "yeah, yeah, I' ve done hard stuff before" line.


Since starting 1st year in August, I've called and apologized weekly for not believing her. Not to be down on pre-meds but there really isn't any way to convey what it's like without you going through it. Maybe if you did the whole second semester of physical chemistry over spring break, or first semester of Biochem over the MLK long weekend...

 

[smq123]

I'm not in med school yet, but my solution is going to be to simply skip lecture all together 😀 Problem solved people.

That's always a fun game to play on exam day during 1st year. There's always a handful of people who NEVER go to class, lab, problem solving sessions, etc. Then, on exam day, people stand around and ask each other, "Who's that guy in the blue sweatshirt? Does he go to our school? Maybe we should tell him that he's not supposed to be in here?" Good times.

 

[DoctorFunk]

Does he go to our school? Maybe we should tell him that he's not supposed to be in here?" Good times.

That's totally me. I like to think of myself as the mysterious gunman who rides into an unruly Western town run by vagabonds and criminals and sets things straight before riding off into the sunset.

 

[Ashers]

That's totally me. I like to think of myself as the mysterious gunman who rides into an unruly Western town run by vagabonds and criminals and sets things straight before riding off into the sunset.

And yet, you were in class today, and had to put up with multiple inane questions.

 

[Eric Lindros]

I think you aren't picturing it right. The lecture isn't per se "over". Questions come in two forms: (1.) where people like the OP raise their hand at the very end of lecture (but before the prof has "signed off") and the prof, still miked, answers them in front of the class. There is no opportunity to leave in a class of 200 people without disrupting the prof. and some lecture halls do not enable a stealth escape. (2.) Folks can go down after class and ask the prof a question in private, and the rest of the class is able to escape. There is always the opportunity to do #2, and no reason not to do #2, so folks who do #1 are effectively forcing the class to hear their question. It's a hostage situation plain and simple.

Ah ok. Interesting. Not what I am used to in college, where most students couldn't care less if a person asked a question at the end....we would just get up and leave when class was over

Sounds like med school is even more intense when it comes to lecture. Booooo.

 

[akpete]

What is great is when someone asks a question like "Can you tell us what emesis is?" during a pharm lecture on the second to the last day of the GI path block, and half the class turns around to the person and says "VOMITING!" However, the professor then went onto a lengthy discussion of what emesis was.

You're kidding right? Seriously.

 

[Bertelman]

Wait a second...

Maybe i'm looking at this the wrong way. Is there like, a wait to get your question in? Are you saying that people get pissed because their "good" questions didn't get asked?

He's asking a question that demonstrates little knowledge of the topic being discussed...

I don't understand. If it's at the end of lecture, why can't people leave. People who don't want to hear your questions can just leave. Tell them to beat it if they don't want to hear you.

...that has been previously answered in the discussion...

I'm not in med school yet

..which carries no consequence for his current situation.

He even managed to delay the impending resolution of the thread.



Could it be???

I think we are witnessing the development of a soon-to-be Inappropriate Questioner!!!!!!

 

[Ashers]

You're kidding right? Seriously.

Nope, not kidding, and it wasn't a person we usually make fun of for asking dumb questions.

 

[Eric Lindros]

Wait a second...



He's asking a question that demonstrates little knowledge of the topic being discussed...



...that has been previously answered in the discussion...



..which carries no consequence for his current situation.

He even managed to delay the impending resolution of the thread.



Could it be???

I think we are witnessing the development of a soon-to-be Inappropriate Questioner!!!!!!

Fear me.

I'm actually trying to express my worry that my class will be filled with a bunch of tools, both the ones who ask the questions and the ones who throw a hissy fit about it, but don't do anything about it

I'll likely fall into the group that you never see at lecture 😉

 

[Bertelman]

I'll likely fall into the group that you never see at lecture 😉

Thus ensuring yourself more study time, more free time, and a better Step 1.

Bastard.

 

[Law2Doc]

Thus ensuring yourself more study time, more free time, and a better Step 1.

Bastard.

I actually don't think there is much data backing this up. Step 1 doesn't care where you learned the material. The folks I know who did well on Step 1 were regular attendees. But admittedly I don't know a statistically significant percentage of test takers.

 

[Tired]

I'm actually trying to express my worry that my class will be filled with a bunch of tools, both the ones who ask the questions and the ones who throw a hissy fit about it, but don't do anything about it

I approached the neurotic freak-girl in my class who always kept us late (and also, at every lecture, had to sit dead-center in the front row). I asked her to . . . well . . . shut the f*ck up every once in a while so we can get out on time. It didn't work, all it did was make her mad at me. She spent the next year calling me "The Devil", and I told her that no man would ever love her.

That was when I started just walking out.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

I actually don't think there is much data backing this up. Step 1 doesn't care where you learned the material. The folks I know who did well on Step 1 were regular attendees. But admittedly I don't know a statistically significant percentage of test takers.

My school is currently taking roll in order to compare exam scores and board scores to attendance. It's pseudo-scientific, and they say it won't be used to revert back to a mandatory attendance policy (yeah right, but I'll be onto the clinical side of things by then and could give a crap what happens). Still, I'm interested to see the results. The Phys department was always quoting some national research last year about how regular attendees did 15% better on exams, trying to get people to show since naturally some profs didn't like lecturing to a mostly empty room. But the flaw was that research didn't compare the same people in attendance vs non-attendance, since they can't really force people to not attend lecture or force people to go and pay the same amount of attention as the normal lecture-goers. Nor was the research done at the graduate level. So the argument is that people self-select, and it's difficult to tell whether the attendee group would do better than the non-attendee group inherently, even were their roles reversed. Wish I had the link.

 

[lord_jeebus]

The people who do well on Step 1 are the ones who figure out what works for them, whether that be lectures, textbooks, or a careful combination of both.

 

[deleted77919]

My school is currently taking roll in order to compare exam scores and board scores to attendance.

They should randomize the students. Assign some people to the "must go to lecture, take notes, and pay attention" group and the other half to the "banned from lecture group." That'd be kind of fun. I can hear the complaints now . . .

 

[Eric Lindros]

I approached the neurotic freak-girl in my class who always kept us late (and also, at every lecture, had to sit dead-center in the front row). I asked her to . . . well . . . shut the f*ck up every once in a while so we can get out on time. It didn't work, all it did was make her mad at me. She spent the next year calling me "The Devil", and I told her that no man would ever love her.

That was when I started just walking out.

 

[Anastasis]

This thread has made me really happy that I'm headed to a med school with a door in the back of the 1st year lecture hall.