Will Trump win again???

[ChiDO]

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<4% of the population is LGBT and <1% are transgender, yet they scream the loudest and get laws and rules passed.

A survey of the public, most Americans think 20-25% of the population are gay.

I can't understand why the democrats are so far left now. Their ideas are so radical that the debate was a **** show of who can offer the most free and absurd stuff.

Trump is gonna crush the election at this rate.

 

[deleted500612]

I don’t understand why the transgender thing gets so much press. The numbers I’ve seen are anywhere from 0.005% to a high of 0.3% of the population have some inclination towards switching gender. Not a high number and certainly not something I will ever devote any time to thinking about or talking about.

The idea that the Republicans are “moderate” is just not correct. They are embracing the religious right and white identity politics more and more with every election. Now I don’t believe many politicians actually believe in Judeo-Christian morality, it is just a political rallying cry to get people to support other things they wouldn’t otherwise support.

Republicans are definitely not embracing the religious right "more and more", up until the early 2000s both parties fully embraced it because it was the only way to win an election. In fact the 2016 election was the first one where Democrats didn't also try to court the Christian vote. Republicans still court that demographic but definitely not more than at any time in the past. It's just more controversial now than it has been previously which makes people notice it.

Interesting you would point out Republicans courting Christians as a prime reason why you believe they aren't moderate, yet have always been viewed as moderate in previous elections prior to Trump with similar and often even more conservative platforms because the entire spectrum has shifted hard to the left. Republican values haven't changed. Democrat values have changed dramatically in the last decade. Look at Bill Clinton's platform... Tough on crime, tough on illegal immigration, anti-gay marriage, pro-capitalism. Wow, sounds even more conservative and extreme than the current Republican platform that you'd now call far right! And that was only 20 years ago such a platform was actually considered moderate left.

Now you have leading democratic candidates preaching full blown socialism, unlimited immigration with dissolution of all border controls, free education and free healthcare for everyone including illegals, $20 minimum wage, 80% top tax bracket, fervent pandering and special privileges to every social justice cause in existence, equity over equality, encouraging transgender affirming hormone therapy for 6 year olds... And funny you should mention "white identity politics" when the GOP platform is literally that race shouldn't matter and everyone should be treated the same without special privileges versus the Democrat approach that race, gender, and sexuality should be the primary focus and the driving force that informs every sociopolitical discussion, every government policy, and every hiring decision. But it's the Republicans who are playing identity politics, and the Republicans who have become extreme? The Republican platform has barely changed in decades... The Democrat platform has taken a VERY hard turn to the far left in the last 6 years.

 

[bronx43]

The Republicans have turned into a theocratic, anti-science party that panders to their “Christian” base while playing white identity politics. I’m willing to pay a little extra in taxes if it gets the religious nonsense out of our government.

The republicans have “pandered” less to the religious conservatives than they ever have in the past. Other than abortion, which isn’t even a solely religious issue, they push essentially zero religion based policies. If you disagree, please name one policy that is reflective of the so-called “anti-science” religious conservatism.

 

[deleted50478]

I don’t understand why the transgender thing gets so much press. The numbers I’ve seen are anywhere from 0.005% to a high of 0.3% of the population have some inclination towards switching gender. Not a high number and certainly not something I will ever devote any time to thinking about or talking about.

The idea that the Republicans are “moderate” is just not correct. They are embracing the religious right and white identity politics more and more with every election. Now I don’t believe many politicians actually believe in Judeo-Christian morality, it is just a political rallying cry to get people to support other things they wouldn’t otherwise support.

I HOPE they don’t believe in the Judeo-Christian morality of rape, murder, slavery, sexism, child abuse... We’d be governed by a bunch of psychopaths.

 

[radsisrad]

I don’t understand why the transgender thing gets so much press. The numbers I’ve seen are anywhere from 0.005% to a high of 0.3% of the population have some inclination towards switching gender. Not a high number and certainly not something I will ever devote any time to thinking about or talking about.

The idea that the Republicans are “moderate” is just not correct. They are embracing the religious right and white identity politics more and more with every election. Now I don’t believe many politicians actually believe in Judeo-Christian morality, it is just a political rallying cry to get people to support other things they wouldn’t otherwise support.

You're right - gender dysphoria is vanishingly rare. Yet, it's an advocacy issue that now comes up fairly often in left-wing politics. That's because the modern Left's raison d'etre is the advancement of any inane cause du jour that'll marginalize the demographic most likely to support conservative values. And I dunno about the Republicans being more and more affiliated with the religious Right. After Trump, voters aren't going to look for another Santorum or Huckabee.

 

[deleted643396]

The republicans have “pandered” less to the religious conservatives than they ever have in the past. Other than abortion, which isn’t even a solely religious issue, they push essentially zero religion based policies. If you disagree, please name one policy that is reflective of the so-called “anti-science” religious conservatism.

A lot of it happens on the local level with school prayers and teaching fake things like creationism. There’s also the whole opposition to gay rights and same sex marriages. Wasn’t there also something about how we don’t want transgender people serving in our military? Many of the rationalizations for not addressing climate change come from some bogus interpretation of the Bible. That’s also a nice place to start when talking about anti-science.

The abortion issue is a fake issue meant get people excited about their particular political team, but the end result of policies meant to stifle abortion is an infringement on women’s rights, which is a common theme among other theocratic states around the world.

 

[deleted643396]

You're right - gender dysphoria is vanishingly rare. Yet, it's an advocacy issue that now comes up fairly often in left-wing politics. That's because the modern Left's raison d'etre is the advancement of any inane cause du jour that'll marginalize the demographic most likely to support conservative values. And I dunno about the Republicans being more and more affiliated with the religious Right. After Trump, voters aren't going to look for another Santorum or Huckabee.

Honestly, the only time I hear someone talking about transgender people is when Fox News is on in the surgical lounge. If you watched Fox News with any regularity you would think there was a hoarde of shemales coming to infect us with their gender switching desires. It’s a ridiculous thing to even spend time talking about, yet Fox News continues to use it to stir up their Republican supporters.

 

[deleted50478]

I don’t understand why the transgender thing gets so much press. The numbers I’ve seen are anywhere from 0.005% to a high of 0.3% of the population have some inclination towards switching gender. Not a high number and certainly not something I will ever devote any time to thinking about or talking about.

The idea that the Republicans are “moderate” is just not correct. They are embracing the religious right and white identity politics more and more with every election. Now I don’t believe many politicians actually believe in Judeo-Christian morality, it is just a political rallying cry to get people to support other things they wouldn’t otherwise support.

I think it’s not as simple as opponents make it out to be. On the one hand, can a kid really comprehend the ramifications of reassignment surgery or taking hormone alternating medications?
On the other hand, I think male to female ‘transition’ is more effective earlier in puberty. If they wait too long, they’re just going to look like a dude with a boob job in women’s clothing for the rest of their lives and won’t appreciate the government dictated delay. If they change too early, they may regret the decision? IDK.

 

[radsisrad]

A lot of it happens on the local level with school prayers and teaching fake things like creationism. There’s also the whole opposition to gay rights and same sex marriages. Wasn’t there also something about how we don’t want transgender people serving in our military? Many of the rationalizations for not addressing climate change come from some bogus interpretation of the Bible. That’s also a nice place to start when talking about anti-science.

The abortion issue is a fake issue meant get people excited about their particular political team, but the end result of policies meant to stifle abortion is an infringement on women’s rights, which is a common theme among other theocratic states around the world.

First of all, school prayers aren't a creation of the "religious Right." They were pretty standard until left-wing agitators became more overtly Christophobic. But I'm not going to quibble too much on that point; the purpose of public schools ought not to be the inculcation of values - that should be done at home.

Opposition to what are called "gay rights" and same-sex marriage aren't necessarily religious in nature. Some find it important to push back on "progressives'" aggressive and self-entitled demands. I remember my own skepticism toward conservatives who predicted years and years ago that the demand for "gay rights" was only the beginning. And now what do we see? "Gender-reassignment" surgeries for children and Desmond is Amazing. That conservative bellyaching seems to have been fairly prescient.

Transgender patients (i.e., patients with gender dysphoria, a profound psychiatric disease) are at substantially higher risk for self-harm than are the rest of the population. That's statistical reality - i.e., science. And it might not be a characteristic we'd want in military personnel.

Regarding abortion, I'll agree that it's mostly based on religious ethics. That said, one need not be religious to recognize that a fetus is a human life, and that its destruction ought not to be performed as a matter of birth control (in cases other than rape).

 

[Lawpy]

U.S. Hiring Bounces Back, Easing Fears of a Jobs Slowdown

Robust June hiring suggests a decade of domestic growth isn’t under threat despite global headwinds. U.S. employers added 224,000 jobs to payrolls, the Labor Department said.

www.wsj.com

If this continues all the way to Election Day, Trump will win reelection. Economy is critical here and the main driving force.

 

[deleted643396]

First of all, school prayers aren't a creation of the "religious Right." They were pretty standard until left-wing agitators became more overtly Christophobic. But I'm not going to quibble too much on that point; the purpose of public schools ought not to be the inculcation of values - that should be done at home.

Opposition to what are called "gay rights" and same-sex marriage aren't necessarily religious in nature. Some find it important to push back on "progressives'" aggressive and self-entitled demands. I remember my own skepticism toward conservatives who predicted years and years ago that the demand for "gay rights" was only the beginning. And now what do we see? "Gender-reassignment" surgeries for children and Desmond is Amazing. That conservative bellyaching seems to have been fairly prescient.

Transgender patients (i.e., patients with gender dysphoria, a profound psychiatric disease) are at substantially higher risk for self-harm than are the rest of the population. That's statistical reality - i.e., science. And it might not be a characteristic we'd want in military personnel.

Regarding abortion, I'll agree that it's mostly based on religious ethics. That said, one need not be religious to recognize that a fetus is a human life, and that its destruction ought not to be performed as a matter of birth control (in cases other than rape).

I disagree with everything you said here.

I talk to a lot of people and have gay friends who are married and I never once hear someone talk about the importance of transgender rights and access to gender reassignment surgery. It just isn’t an issue that most people think about. It is a boogeyman created by righty media to say “see, look at how far off the rails they’ve gone.” Gender reassignment surgery and the desire for it is so rare as to be a non-issue for me and most people.

Now people do talk about things like wage stagnation in the face of higher costs of living, lack of social mobility, and opportunity being given out based on money and not skill. People are concerned about debt and the lies they were given regarding the benefits of taking on that debt for education. People are concerned about access to healthcare and being able to afford it. People are worried about being able to save enough so they can stop working before they turn 80. They see European countries providing social programs, like healthcare, for their citizens and wonder why that can’t be done here. The things the Democrats are proposing are not fringe, wacko ideas because they’ve been implemented in other countries with varying degrees of success. These are ideas that traditionally Republican voters support. The Republicans, in turn, resort to creating boogeymen like the army of shemales coming to turn your 6 year old son into a woman.

I agree, the open borders proposals of some Democrats are dumb ideas, and I hope they get weeded out through the primaries. We’ll see.

 

[deleted171991]

U.S. Hiring Bounces Back, Easing Fears of a Jobs Slowdown

Robust June hiring suggests a decade of domestic growth isn’t under threat despite global headwinds. U.S. employers added 224,000 jobs to payrolls, the Labor Department said.

www.wsj.com

If this continues all the way to Election Day, Trump will win reelection. Economy is critical here and the main driving force.

Immigration too. Some of the ideas on the left are absolutely ridiculous.

 

[radsisrad]

I disagree with everything you said here.

I talk to a lot of people and have gay friends who are married and I never once hear someone talk about the importance of transgender rights and access to gender reassignment surgery. It just isn’t an issue that most people think about. It is a boogeyman created by righty media to say “see, look at how far off the rails they’ve gone.” Gender reassignment surgery and the desire for it is so rare as to be a non-issue for me and most people.

Now people do talk about things like wage stagnation in the face of higher costs of living, lack of social mobility, and opportunity being given out based on money and not skill. People are concerned about debt and the lies they were given regarding the benefits of taking on that debt for education. People are concerned about access to healthcare and being able to afford it. People are worried about being able to save enough so they can stop working before they turn 80. They see European countries providing social programs, like healthcare, for their citizens and wonder why that can’t be done here. The things the Democrats are proposing are not fringe, wacko ideas because they’ve been implemented in other countries with varying degrees of success. These are ideas that traditionally Republican voters support. The Republicans, in turn, resort to creating boogeymen like the army of shemales coming to turn your 6 year old son into a woman.

I agree, the open borders proposals of some Democrats are dumb ideas, and I hope they get weeded out through the primaries. We’ll see.

Again... it's not a boogeyman creation of the Right when there's loud applause to the issue on the Democrats' primary debate stage.

I agree with most of your second paragraph. I'm not a Republican, but I'm a pretty Roosevelt-oriented guy (I mean the first one... not the one who set the country on a path to economic ruin).

 

[Lawpy]

Immigration too. Some of the ideas on the left are absolutely ridiculous. For example, we are probably the only country in the world that doesn't count its citizens.

Yeah open borders makes no sense, especially considering the global political trends going on for the past few years. Western Europe in many respects is far more left-wing than the US and they're suffering from right-wing, populist revolt because of the government support for open borders without understanding the consequences. Rather disappointing to see several Democratic candidates taking an irrational approach to immigration and ignoring the global trends.

Also in a way, the courts and Congress are actually helping Trump's immigration platform because he could always say he was trying to promote the policies he promised in 2016 election but kept getting repeatedly blocked and attacked (while also pointing out the global political trends).

 

[IlDestriero]

Free college, reparations for blacks and gays, free healthcare, free $1000/month (although I think yang is the smartest of the bunch), and somehow still eliminate gas cars and fossil fuels for good. All we have to do is pay 95% in taxes! These clowns have no real plans just empty promises with no way to pay for them.

This issue came up recently at the local level where a poorly thought out “lead the way by example” ordinance was passed to go 100% green in 20 years. Only ONE Republican board member pointed out that is 1. Impossible and 2. Extraordinary expensive. He gave a couple examples. Are we really going to try to buy Green Electric Fire and police vehicles? Convert garbage trucks to hydrogen? Are we going to place acres of solar panels, in the parks? Where? How can we use solar power to power the municipal buildings? A couple citizens commented that it’s a farce as well and they got the evil eye left and right from a dozen or more that wasted another hour saying it is a start and climate change caused the flooding a few months ago, it’s too expensive not to act, etc. comments suggesting this is false fell on deaf ears. Now these nutters have an advisory level special interest group meeting monthly to figure out how to do this. I guarantee you the “preliminary study” which will say it’s either impossible or will cost 200% of the total annual budget will be more than $100k.
It’s painful.

 

[2Fast2Des]

What do you suggest? Stick our head in the sand and pretend nothing is wrong with status quo? For a first world nation there is quite a bit of improvement needed. We want to control what women can and can't do, have no qualms spending millions and billions on aid and war with other countries and building unnecessary walls yet it seems no money to be found to improve our own infrastructure, fund education, decrease health care costs, etc etc. Nothing wrong with going green and working on renewable energy, yet this administration is hell bent on going to back to coal and eliminating EPA regulations so we can replace all the water in the Gulf of Mexico into an oil pit and turn protected lands into mines and oil fields. Thats ok with you?

I'm a moderate and completely disgusted with politics so I don't think I will vote, neither side reflects any of my values. The rich old white men don't care for my/our input. My focus is just make hay while the sun shines, hopefully the world won't burn until after I'm dead..

 

[radsisrad]

There's probably a nice balance somewhere between the Armageddon 2031 model and the "CO2 can't be a harmful emission because we exhale it" talking point. Let's come up with realistic, adult-level expectations.

 

[epidural man]

Andrew Yang is my guy. He is very smart - very data driven, and talking about stuff that is super important that no one else seems to be mentioning (like an industrial revolution that is comming that will displace a billion workers).

If you don't know much about him - listen to the Ben Shapiro interview, or the Joe Rogan interview. Both are great.

I also really liked Klobuchar - I loved that she said in her closing statements "I don't make the promises everyone else up here does, but I'll govern with integrity." Dam.n - we need more of that. I'd rather vote with someone with integrity and who is trying their hardest to do what they feel is right - then vote for someone who aligns with me politically who is only trying to get re-elected or looking for the next big donation.

How about Rep Gabbard? She impressed me in the debate.

The reason Trump will win, is because the left still thinks that all Trump supporters are from the middle of Alabama practicing incest. They still can't figure out why people like Trump. They still can't admit that very smart, really informed people are supporting him. If you can't figure that out, you will never beat him. Half of 'Merica will remain an enigma, and you won't get the votes. If they could ever figure that out - Trump would surely loose.

Although my guess is, that Obama technique will work....that is...play to the super far left to get the nominee, then in the primary...move to the center. That is how someone might win Trump. I suppose any of those yahoos running could do that.

 

[epidural man]

There's probably a nice balance somewhere between the Armageddon 2031 model and the "CO2 can't be a harmful emission because we exhale it" talking point. Let's come up with realistic, adult-level expectations.

Someone mentioned to me yesterday that we can solve the problem. We just need to plant 1 trillion trees - which is probably doable.

 

[pgg]

Someone mentioned to me yesterday that we can solve the problem. We just need to plant 1 trillion trees - which is probably doable.

That, and stop digging black stuff out of the ground and burning it.

Also, for every tree you plant, some subsistence farmer in the tropics is going to slash and burn four to clear a plot of farmland.

Carbon sequestration plans are neat but the hole won't be filled while we're still digging.

My plan is to move inland and enjoy the warm weather.

 

[radsisrad]

I'm a moderate and completely disgusted with politics so I don't think I will vote, neither side reflects any of my values. The rich old white men don't care for my/our input.

Wow. So moderate.

 

[pgg]

Wow. So moderate.

This is one reason why so many moderates, especially white moderates over 40, voted for Trump. Cue the derogatory comments about flyover America. I was very surprised by Trump's win but not at all surprised that a demographic that the Democratic party never misses a chance to malign carried him to that win.

 

[2Fast2Des]

Wow. So moderate.

You think majority of those in government, powers that be, corporate boards, etc are all full of middle class black, brown, not wasp diverse Joes? Please ...

 

[radsisrad]

You think majority of those in government, powers that be, corporate boards, etc are all full of middle class black, brown, not wasp diverse Joes? Please ...

Keep digging.

 

[pgg]

You think majority of those in government, powers that be, corporate boards, etc are all full of middle class black, brown, not wasp diverse Joes? Please ...

The point is that the Democratic party has progressively shifted its core identity to be "not wasp" and that strategy isn't going to recapture the wasp votes that won the rust belt, and the electoral college, and the presidency, for Trump in 2016.

I mean seriously, the biggest criticisms coming from the left of Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden are that they're old white men, to borrow a phrase from your post above. We've got Kamala Harris trying to paint Joe Biden of all people as some kind of racist segregationist with some nonsense about busing ...

Really? You really want to hitch your party's wagon to race and gender politics?

After watching the Rs lose two elections to Obama, I thought they were the ones with a monopoly on losing with style.

It used to be true that Rs didn't need people of color to win. That might even be true for a couple more election cycles, maybe. But for some reason these days the Ds seem to think they don't need people of not-color. It's baffling. Maybe it's just the skewed pandering we always get in primaries, but I don't remember it being like this in the past. I'm skeptical that whichever person wins the D primary is going to be able to backtrack and pivot to the middle enough.

I'm still betting on a Democratic president in 2021, but man it sure seems like you guys are trying your best to lose to Trump again.

 

[radsisrad]

It was nice when the Left used (or, at least, purported) to advance the interests of working Americans. Now, its explicit goal is the advancement of wokeness /demographic enmity. All backed by the most powerful corporate entities in the universe (Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.).

I can't support this movement, regardless of how much I like cold weather.

 

[deleted643396]

It was nice when the Left used (or, at least, purported) to advance the interests of working Americans. Now, its explicit goal is the advancement of wokeness /demographic enmity. All backed by the most powerful corporate entities in the universe (Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc.).

I can't support this movement, regardless of how much I like cold weather.

Isn’t the idea of breaking up Facebook and Google as monopolies gaining traction among Democrats?

I don’t know. Bernie Sanders is a top 3 Democratic candidate now and he doesn’t spend much time talking about racial or gender issues. As much as the narrative in conservative media is that the only things the Democrats do now is talk about chicks with d*cks and racial identity, it’s simply not true. Much of Bernie Sander’s success has to do with his economic ideas (regardless of whether they are good ideas or not). I just think all this identity politics stuff is a straw man created by conservative media to draw people’s attention away from policies that most people actually do care about like affordable healthcare and student debt relief.

I don’t know much about most of the candidates, but I saw the exchange between Kamala Harris and Biden at the debate. My read on it was that it had less to do with painting Biden as a racist and more to do with attacking him for not having principles. He had the nerve to make a compromise with political opponents rather than taking a stand for principles. This is exactly what is wrong with politics now. The sentiment is that the other side is the opposition and it’s an all or none approach. If you compromise with political opponents, you are simply showing your weakness of principle. The Tea Party was famous for this when they threatened to “primary” politicians that engaged in any sort of political compromise on the Affordable Care Act.

 

[deleted162650]

This is exactly what is wrong with politics now.

I disagree. I rather like it. The busier the politicians are arguing with each other, the less time they have to figure out new ways of interfering in my life.

Gridlock 2020!

 

[deleted500612]

Isn’t the idea of breaking up Facebook and Google as monopolies gaining traction among Democrats?

I don’t know. Bernie Sanders is a top 3 Democratic candidate now and he doesn’t spend much time talking about racial or gender issues. As much as the narrative in conservative media is that the only things the Democrats do now is talk about chicks with d*cks and racial identity, it’s simply not true. Much of Bernie Sander’s success has to do with his economic ideas (regardless of whether they are good ideas or not). I just think all this identity politics stuff is a straw man created by conservative media to draw people’s attention away from policies that most people actually do care about like affordable healthcare and student debt relief.

Ok let's see what all the Dem candidates were talking about today: Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren Introduce Racial Equity Plans

Kamala Harris announces she'd award $100 billion in reparation payments allocated to subsidize African American home ownership so that the "home ownership racial gap" will close.

Elizabeth Warren declares as President she will issue an executive order to prevent the federal government from awarding contracts to any company whose workforce does not meet an arbitrarily determined government diversity quota and then also announced $7 billion dollars she would invest only in female and minority businesses to close the "entrepreneurial diversity gap".

Cory Booker also talked about a "racial wealth gap" and proposed a fund that would consist of "the largest pool of capital for nontraditional entrepreneurs in our country’s history"

Beto O'Rourke talked about increasing funding for traditionally black colleges, and forgiving all student loan debt for teachers because he thinks teachers in particular are cooler than everyone else with student debt, so why not.

Notice how the vast majority of the campaign promises are tied to identity politics. They aren't promising to subsidize homeownership for poor people, they are promising to subsidize homeownership for black people. They aren't promising to subsidize small business start ups for poor people, they are promising to subsidize small businesses for women and minorities. The policies are based purely on gender and race (identity politics) rather than on an individual basis of true socioeconomic disadvantage. They preach equity rather than equality while purposefully failing to consider crucial confounding variables that often explain most of these statistical gaps (such as the gender income gap).

It was truly a race to the bottom to see which candidate could promise the most handouts to any given social justice cause while skillfully avoiding discussing a single issue that doesn't involve identity politics. Yet you're going to sit there with a straight face and type out "It's simply not true that democrats focus on racial identity", and that the notion of democrats tending to focus on identity politics is "a strawman created by conservative media" ?? lol. Have you actually listened to any of these candidates speak? Their entire platforms revolve around identity politics and free handouts (with the amount of free hand outs of course directly correlating with your gender, sexuality, and skin color)

 

[radsisrad]

Isn’t the idea of breaking up Facebook and Google as monopolies gaining traction among Democrats?

Not a phenomenon of which I'm aware. I've heard plenty about it from the Right, though.

I don’t know. Bernie Sanders is a top 3 Democratic candidate now and he doesn’t spend much time talking about racial or gender issues. As much as the narrative in conservative media is that the only things the Democrats do now is talk about chicks with d*cks and racial identity, it’s simply not true. Much of Bernie Sander’s success has to do with his economic ideas (regardless of whether they are good ideas or not). I just think all this identity politics stuff is a straw man created by conservative media to draw people’s attention away from policies that most people actually do care about like affordable healthcare and student debt relief.

You may be thinking of his 2016 campaigning. Since then, he's gone full-SJW.

I've seen many, many Twitter posts from Sanders painting Trump as a "racist", "sexist", etc. The basis for this is, presumably, Trump's claimed interest in securing the southern border. I get what he's trying to do, and it just might work, but it's repugnant.

And when virtually all the Democrat candidates kiss Al Sharpton's ring and pledge to pursue "reparations", you can understand why reasonable people would grow both wary and weary of the general Democrat platform.

I don’t know much about most of the candidates, but I saw the exchange between Kamala Harris and Biden at the debate. My read on it was that it had less to do with painting Biden as a racist and more to do with attacking him for not having principles. He had the nerve to make a compromise with political opponents rather than taking a stand for principles. This is exactly what is wrong with politics now. The sentiment is that the other side is the opposition and it’s an all or none approach. If you compromise with political opponents, you are simply showing your weakness of principle. The Tea Party was famous for this when they threatened to “primary” politicians that engaged in any sort of political compromise on the Affordable Care Act.

It's interesting that you saw it that way. What I saw was Harris pouncing for the kill in the context of a Democrat base primed to cannibalize the "old white man" (as the poster above might call Biden). Especially what with the "That little girl was me" t-shirts ready to sell just hours after the debate.

 

[deleted643396]

Not a phenomenon of which I'm aware. I've heard plenty about it from the Right, though.



You may be thinking of his 2016 campaigning. Since then, he's gone full-SJW.

I’m pretty sure Elizabeth Warren has talked about breaking up the tech companies (and every other big corporation) multiple times.

I don’t know what SJW is? I don’t care enough to look it up.

 

[Lawpy]

I'm still betting on a Democratic president in 2021, but man it sure seems like you guys are trying your best to lose to Trump again.

I agree with the rest of your post but this may not be a wise bet, as you've probably noted. Global political trends and economic trends are favoring Trump and will continue to favor him if they continue all the way to Election Day.

 

[MoMoGesiologist]

The left needs to find their Donald Trump. Maybe Bill Cosby or Danny Devito?

 

[PieOHmy]

I just cant see any of the current democrats beating Trump.
Biden? Puh-leez.

 

[deleted50478]

I just cant see any of the current democrats beating Trump.
Biden? Puh-leez.

I thought last time the DNC cheated it’s way into nominating the only person despised enough to lose to that jack ass Trump. Somehow they seem to have dug lots of terrible candidates out of the woodwork to try and lose again.

 

[2Fast2Des]

Well that billionaire Epstein got caught trafficking again, and apparently Trump was one of his co-rapers abusing young girls, wonder if that will slow down Trump in any way once Epstein starts spilling the beans.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Well that billionaire Epstein got caught trafficking again, and apparently Trump was one of his co-rapers abusing young girls, wonder if that will slow down Trump in any way once Epstein starts spilling the beans.

Way to take a surprisingly good/polite thread given the subject matter and just take a giant dump on it

 

[radsisrad]

Well that billionaire Epstein got caught trafficking again, and apparently Trump was one of his co-rapers abusing young girls, wonder if that will slow down Trump in any way once Epstein starts spilling the beans.

To whom is this apparent?

 

[2Fast2Des]

To whom is this apparent?

Complaint | DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

 

[2Fast2Des]

Way to take a surprisingly good/polite thread given the subject matter and just take a giant dump on it

More of a commentary on how Trump and Co can literally get away with anything... Things that would sink any normal candidate or human beings' careers..

 

[Lawpy]

Here's a recent example regarding global political trends:

Conservatives Regain Control in Greece

Greece elected a conservative government on a promise to cut taxes and spur economic growth, initial results showed, ejecting a left-wing government that couldn’t deliver an end to the country’s long economic slump.

www.wsj.com

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

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Ok you realize that this is an unsubstantiated claim from someone suing them in civil court right?

 

[radsisrad]

Complaint | DocumentCloud

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Yes, and them I'm sure Trump asked her to urinate on him.

 

[BobLoblaw78]

Surprised with a lot of these statements. The rich get richer under republicans/trump. Probably makes sense why there is so much republican love here. The part you are missing is its the people making over $1M a year that get the true benefits. Just like the corporate tax cuts that trump pushed through. Supply side economics don't work, and never have. I'd rather have a president that believes in science, can fight global warming, and yes, some proposals are ridiculous like debt forgiveness. Hopefully those things aren't enacted - but I certainly don't think America is headed in the right direction under this uber conservative senate/president. The extremists truly are on the right.

"....headed in the right direction under this uber conservative liberal president."

There fixed your typo, because Trump is the most liberal republican president that I can recall. That is why he was a democrat not too long ago.

 

[2Fast2Des]

"....headed in the right direction under this uber conservative liberal president."

There fixed your typo, because Trump is the most liberal republican president that I can recall. That is why he was a democrat not too long ago.

What part of his policy is liberal? The blatant racism, dismantling consumer protection, rolling back environmental protections?

 

[lakersbaby]

I disagree with everything you said here.

I talk to a lot of people and have gay friends who are married and I never once hear someone talk about the importance of transgender rights and access to gender reassignment surgery. It just isn’t an issue that most people think about. It is a boogeyman created by righty media to say “see, look at how far off the rails they’ve gone.” Gender reassignment surgery and the desire for it is so rare as to be a non-issue for me and most people.

Now people do talk about things like wage stagnation in the face of higher costs of living, lack of social mobility, and opportunity being given out based on money and not skill. People are concerned about debt and the lies they were given regarding the benefits of taking on that debt for education. People are concerned about access to healthcare and being able to afford it. People are worried about being able to save enough so they can stop working before they turn 80. They see European countries providing social programs, like healthcare, for their citizens and wonder why that can’t be done here. The things the Democrats are proposing are not fringe, wacko ideas because they’ve been implemented in other countries with varying degrees of success. These are ideas that traditionally Republican voters support. The Republicans, in turn, resort to creating boogeymen like the army of shemales coming to turn your 6 year old son into a woman.

I agree, the open borders proposals of some Democrats are dumb ideas, and I hope they get weeded out through the primaries. We’ll see.

You obviously do not live in california. Gender reassignment surgery is not so rare in these progressive states. Kaiser permanente even covers these operations. You must be joking if you think the democrats are not focusing on social nonsense issues and are sticking to what the PEOPLE need.

 

[lakersbaby]

Well that billionaire Epstein got caught trafficking again, and apparently Trump was one of his co-rapers abusing young girls, wonder if that will slow down Trump in any way once Epstein starts spilling the beans.

More like your idol bill clinton.

 

[deleted643396]

You obviously do not live in california. Gender reassignment surgery is not so rare in these progressive states. Kaiser permanente even covers these operations. You must be joking if you think the democrats are not focusing on social nonsense issues and are sticking to what the PEOPLE need.

How common is it? What are the numbers? I do not live in California, so I don’t know. I’ve practiced at multiple hospitals on the east coast and have never even seen a “gender reassignment” scheduled nor have I met any surgeons who do it. Is it a big case? Chance for blood loss? Would I need to put in an awake a-line?

I’m sorry, I cannot stand the constant transgender talk...from anyone. It’s annoying because it is a rare, non-issue. It certainly does not deserve the coverage it gets.

 

[lakersbaby]

How common is it? What are the numbers? I do not live in California, so I don’t know. I’ve practiced at multiple hospitals on the east coast and have never even seen a “gender reassignment” scheduled nor have I met any surgeons who do it. Is it a big case? Chance for blood loss? Would I need to put in an awake a-line?

I’m sorry, I cannot stand the constant transgender talk...from anyone. It’s annoying because it is a rare, non-issue. It certainly does not deserve the coverage it gets.

yes it is a rare non-issue that FOX NEWS covers one side of and CNN/MSNBC cover the other side way too much. Definitely does not deserve coverage. All need awake A-lines, TEE and PAC btw,

 

[2Fast2Des]

More like your idol bill clinton.

Whoever was involved should be punished accordingly, whether it be Clinton or Trump, or whatever other powerful scumbag