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I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
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Nice try, OP.
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
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In other news, I, for one, am hoping for a Zombie Apocalypse.
 
I'd be up for a Zombie Apocalypse.

Best case scenario:

More ME riots leads to the rest of the world getting fed up and using biochemical warfare. Unfortunately, the chemicals causes the victims to lose conscious control of their bodies rendering them as...zombies.

All of this happens 28 days before Dec. 21 2012.
 
In all seriousness, how do you all feel about the nuclear bomb situation in Iran?
 
I think we'll probably fix the problem before it becomes a problem. It sounds bad, but I've never taken that country or any ME country as a potent nuclear threat.
 
Anathema said:
I think we'll probably fix the problem before it becomes a problem. It sounds bad, but I've never taken that country or any ME country as a potent nuclear threat.
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I hope so. I should probably stop read CNN news so often.
 
Welp, I kinda want to go buy a bottle of quality.
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
In all seriousness, how do you all feel about the nuclear bomb situation in Iran?
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Even if Iran managed to

1) get weapons grade materials in sufficient quantity
2) have the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon
3) have the engineering prowness to build a rocket that can go for more than a few miles
4) launch it without US detection

the US has so many countermeasures for scenarios where a missile is approaching the US coast... they won't get close to US soil with a missile launch
 
Venom5 said:
Even if Iran managed to

1) get weapons grade materials in sufficient quantity
2) have the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon
3) have the engineering prowness to build a rocket that can go for more than a few miles
4) launch it without US detection

the US has so many countermeasures for scenarios where a missile is approaching the US coast... they won't get close to US soil with a missile launch
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That's what I keep telling myself but then there's China and Russia. Let's not even mention North Korea.
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
That's what I keep telling myself but then there's China and Russia. Let's not even mention North Korea.
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The North Korean population will probably be in the 100s in a couple years if it keeps up its control.

China and Russia aren't big headed enough to start up a conflict just yet.
 
Sure tensions are high but I think we have it way better than our grandparents/great grandparents who had to live through the Great Depression and 2 World Wars, not including the smaller wars in between them.
 
Anathema said:
The North Korean population will probably be in the 100s in a couple years if it keeps up its control.

China and Russia aren't big headed enough to start up a conflict just yet.
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China will never start a conflict as it will incite international sanctions and embargo that will lead to economic turmoil and the ousting of power from their elite.
Russia economically has no interest in a direct war, but does profit from supplying.


There's a lot more scary things in the world tbh.
 
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Mitt Romney will fix everything! HOPE, people, HOPE!
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
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I'd never thought about it. I guess I don't mind.
 
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lol this..don't worry op, people have been predicting the end of the world throughout history..and they are all nuts. why? b/c it's probably not gonna end.
 
Venom5 said:
Even if Iran managed to

1) get weapons grade materials in sufficient quantity
2) have the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon
3) have the engineering prowness to build a rocket that can go for more than a few miles
4) launch it without US detection

the US has so many countermeasures for scenarios where a missile is approaching the US coast... they won't get close to US soil with a missile launch
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You miss the fundamental problem with Iran getting and using a bomb.

They don't need to go more than a few hundred miles, a military strike on Israel (nuclear or not) will compel the US into war with Iran. Our government swore 60 years ago we would defend them if attacked, and THAT is the risk of Iran having the 'bomb', not an attack on US soil. NOTE: we have never signed a formal treaty to this effect, buy any party that failed to defend Israel would commit suicide for a generation.
 
LMFAO people really think iran has nuclear weapons
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
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Hmm, a friendly warning of impending Armageddon or a clever ploy to discourage potential competitors from the applicant pool? :laugh:
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
That's what I keep telling myself but then there's China and Russia. Let's not even mention North Korea.
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Let's just say, none of the countries should mess with the United States. US can destroy a country if that country attacks us for no reason/terroristic attack.
 
Why does everyone think that if Iran gets a nuke, they are going to use it?

I think it is more logical to assume that they want to just level the playing field. They are more advanced as a society than we are led to believe, and they just want the respect of a country they sees itself as an equal among the great nations.

It's like they are saying, "USA has a nuke, Russia has a nuke, even Israel has a nuke. Why can't I have a nuke?!"

But anyway...I am just a grunt medic and not suppose to have an opinion, lol.
 
RomanTaylor said:
Why does everyone think that if Iran gets a nuke, they are going to use it?

I think it is more logical to assume that they want to just level the playing field. They are more advanced as a society than we are led to believe, and they just want the respect of a country they sees itself as an equal among the great nations.

It's like they are saying, "USA has a nuke, Russia has a nuke, even Israel has a nuke. Why can't I have a nuke?!"

But anyway...I am just a grunt medic and not suppose to have an opinion, lol.
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Iran will never directly attack anyone. It would be a death sentence for their nation. This not to also mention that their capacities for the long term are restricted to some of the weakest classes of nuclear weapons.
 
RomanTaylor said:
Why does everyone think that if Iran gets a nuke, they are going to use it?

I think it is more logical to assume that they want to just level the playing field. They are more advanced as a society than we are led to believe, and they just want the respect of a country they sees itself as an equal among the great nations.

It's like they are saying, "USA has a nuke, Russia has a nuke, even Israel has a nuke. Why can't I have a nuke?!"

But anyway...I am just a grunt medic and not suppose to have an opinion, lol.
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Excision said:
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Eh, I think that is Iran's version of projection of power.

I mean, imagine, you have all this money, a military, and you want to extend your modern influence past your borders.

The west, of course, would not want that because competition for real political power at our oil source could make things difficult for us at the trading table.

It's against America's interest to have an Islamic America controlling things in the Middle East, so of course we consider it prudent to make sure they never achieve it.

I mean, yea, sure, all of the anti-Israel rhetoric doesn't help their case, but that is going by the wayside as soon as the old generation turns that country's destiny over to the upcoming youngsters. It's already happening. Those college kids are in the street regularly protesting the current government. Eventually there will be a revolution, then we will see how the West handles that nation.
 
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RomanTaylor said:
Eh, I think that is Iran's version of projection of power.

I mean, imagine, you have all this money, a military, and you want to extend your modern influence past your borders.

The west, of course, would not want that because competition for real political power at our oil source could make things difficult for us at the trading table.

It's against America's interest to have a Islamic America controlling things in the Middle East, so of course we consider it prudent to make sure they never achieve it.

I mean, yea, sure, all of the anti-Israel rhetoric doesn't help their case, but that is going by the wayside as soon as the old generation turns that country's destiny over to the upcoming youngsters. It's already happening. Those college kids are in the street regularly protesting the current government. Eventually there will be a revolution, then we will see how the West handles that nation.
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I agree with your first two points.

However, characterizing Iran as an "Islamic America" is... off base. This is a country that executes homosexuals, has a history of executing political prisoners, and rigging elections. Not entirely American.

Perhaps there will be an "arab spring" in Iran. Although any time there is news of a large scale protest in Iran, the protest is squashed. I hope you're right about that, of course.
 
Excision said:
I agree with your first two points.

However, characterizing Iran as an "Islamic America" is... off base. This is a country that executes homosexuals, has a history of executing political prisoners, and rigging elections. Not entirely American.

Perhaps there will be an "arab spring" in Iran. Although any time there is news of a large scale protest in Iran, the protest is squashed. I hope you're right about that, of course.
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Well, I meant that in the sense of their Manifest Destiny and hunger for economic, political, and social growth and influence, not our values.

Iran wants to be a super power. Life becomes very expensive for Americans if that happens, so it can't happen.
 
Venom5 said:
Even if Iran managed to

1) get weapons grade materials in sufficient quantity
2) have the knowledge to build a nuclear weapon
3) have the engineering prowness to build a rocket that can go for more than a few miles
4) launch it without US detection

the US has so many countermeasures for scenarios where a missile is approaching the US coast... they won't get close to US soil with a missile launch
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Not to mention Iran's currency crisis at the moment.
 
Ok we should get this straight Iran has nuclear material but has yet to figure out a way to make it a weapon. They claim there nuclear program is for energy use only and they do have the materials necessary just not the know how yet. The problem is how do you let them have energy and not worry about weapon development?
 
Blackhawkdown24 said:
I'm not saying that I agree with the Mayan prophecy, in fact, it's been proven that their calendar just ended and then began again. I am a Christian and only Jesus knows the day and hour of his return. But on a side note, all of this turmoil in Iran, Syria, and Israel is disturbing to me and makes me wonder if this will break out into World War 3. So, my fellow pre-meds, do you think there will be a next year? Are we studying really hard for nothing?
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I'm a little late to this thread but some people said 2012 is supposed to be the time of spiritual awakening and a new time of enlightenment.
 
Well I can see how you are concerned since the world ended on May 27th, May 21/Sept 29th/Oct 21st last year, April 29th 3 years ago, May and Nov 29th in 2003, Jan 1st/April 6th/May 5th/Oct 9th of 2000, and the 73 times before.

It's getting to be a nuisance to rebuild this world each time. At this point, you should probably stop studying, sell your belongings, and enjoy some Flavor-aid.
 
chendricks1309 said:
Ok we should get this straight Iran has nuclear material but has yet to figure out a way to make it a weapon. They claim there nuclear program is for energy use only and they do have the materials necessary just not the know how yet. The problem is how do you let them have energy and not worry about weapon development?
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There is only one Sorcerer Supreme, buddy.

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serenade said:
China will never start a conflict as it will incite international sanctions and embargo that will lead to economic turmoil and the ousting of power from their elite.
Russia economically has no interest in a direct war, but does profit from supplying.


There's a lot more scary things in the world tbh.
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If China were willing to start a nuclear war, I think it couldn't care less about sanctions and embargos, hun.
 
Doudline said:
If China were willing to start a nuclear war, I think it couldn't care less about sanctions and embargos, hun.
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And thus you realize why it's silly to even talk about China perpetuating a nuclear conflict as it will be the end of their nation along with the world. Furthermore if the conflict is non-nuclear, as no conflict will likely arise between nuclear powers it will suffer massive consequences to it's economy.

Either way, no matter way you look at it, it's not going to happen. And if it does happen, well, you'll be dead, so why worry?
 
China has no reason to start a nuclear war. They are a superpower...arguable the #1 superpower. They don't have to resort to military arms to win a conflict...all they need to do it call in the debt that the other superpowers owe them.
 
RomanTaylor said:
China has no reason to start a nuclear war. They are a superpower...arguable the #1 superpower. They don't have to resort to military arms to win a conflict...all they need to do it call in the debt that the other superpowers owe them.
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Japan holds almost as much of our debt as China. I've never understood why people haven't worked up a nationalistic frenzy over that...
 
@ OP, there has been and will always be conflict in the world. Don't let fear mongering media outlets override your common sense.
 
RomanTaylor said:
China has no reason to start a nuclear war. They are a superpower...arguable the #1 superpower. They don't have to resort to military arms to win a conflict...all they need to do it call in the debt that the other superpowers owe them.
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And then what? Lets actually think a little bit here, what would happen if China, completely dependent on the US and Western Europe economically, called in all the debt they own, which btw is nowhere as huge as domestic debt holdings. The following situations can occur:
1) The US devalues the currency and produces more of it. End result: Global recession, no one buys Chinese crap because they don't have money for basic things, China loses.
2) The US increases taxes and pays off the debt. End result: Less money to spend on Chinese crap = weakening of China.
3) The US puts Chuck Norris in a sealed train from Xi'an to Beijing. End Result: Chinese Copulation.

But really, never in history has a nation called a debt on another sovereign nation. One because of the reality that a nation can manipulate it's currency at will ( As long as it is not a standardized unit like a Gold Troy or Silver Tael). And secondly because it doesn't serve to help anyone including the debt holding nation that can effectively live off of the interest, ex. Chinese owed 325Million Tael in 1901 ( Boxer indemnity), they paid incremental and by 1949 due to interest they paid around 1Billion Tael.

Furthermore, to dispute the claim that China is the number one world power. The Chinese have never effectively won a single war since the early 20th century and only recently have deployed a "modern" aircraft carrier.
 
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Praefectus said:
Japan holds almost as much of our debt as China. I've never understood why people haven't worked up a nationalistic frenzy over that...
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People in the 80-90s thought that the Japanese would take over the US through economic pressure as well. And people projected that by 2020 they would overtake our GDP. What can I say? People like to believe that foreigners or out-group members are the ones who are your main enemies, not the people at home.
 
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