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[ccc2009]

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is it just me or does MSU COM come off as the most abrasive and uninviting com. on its secondary everything is along the lines of do exactly this or we ll rip everything up.

"Unsolicited materials will be shredded."

several times they say not to call and to make appointments for even one question with an advisor. they dont accept interfolio?? so i need to get all my recommenders who have already done me the favor of writing me a letter to rewrite their letters during their vacation time just because they have a stick up their a**. i know some of you are going to say aight then dont apply there or go somewhere else. for the rate of tuition they have and especially their oos tuition it wouldnt hurt them to be a bit more welcoming especially to future applicants, and especially students. I have never seen a secondary so unpleasant to fill out that I am sure the actual interview must be an absolute joyous walk through the park..

 

[joeDO2]

yes, I commented on this when I received it. the impression I got from the secondary application was pretty bad. in fact, I am no longer applying to their school because of it. if that is how they are treating their prospective students I would hate to see what they do once you're admitted.

 

[Avoidthetiger]

How can you not accept interfolio? They might as well not even accept your AACOMAS primary application.

I have been debating applying to MSU-COM. Now it's def off the list. ughh

 

[DbDan]

I didn't apply there at all because of their recommendation requirement and their OOS tuition. I'm already a year and a half out of undergrad, I can't have my letter writers re-write a letter for someone they haven't had in class for 2-3 years...

 

[megathunder]

Hmmm, good thing I didn't apply there. Love it when things like this work out (me not applying that is)..

 

[cbrons]

I was gunna add MSU-COM today. Thanks for the headsup, I'll look for something else.

 

[HockeyDr09]

I agree completely. I applied there and after receiving their secondary, I will NOT be applying. The secondary is actually 13 separate forms and they refuse to accept any letters, you must have your letter writers rewrite everything. Tack on the fact that I called the school asking a quick question about the OOS tuition and had this exchange.

Ringing
MSUCOM- Hello?
HockeyDr09- Hello, I am a potential applicant, I was hoping you could answer a quick question I had regarding the out of state tuition.

MSUCOM- What about it?
HockeyDr09- Well, I see here that the OOS tuition is 70K, I was curious if you offer in-state tuition after a year of living there and paying OOS.

MSUCOM- No.
HockeyDr09- (thinking thats it? just no?) Oh, okay, thanks, just curious, i'm not sure if you know this or not but is that the norm for schools? Do most schools require to pay OOS all four years?

MSUCOM- How am I supposed to know. Anything else?
HockeyDr09- um, no thanks for your help (I guess)
click

(note I am NOT over-exaggerating)

I was shocked how rude the person on the phone was. They expect me to pay them 70K a year. The secondary says after you fill it out in its entirety, and pay them $85, they do not even guarantee the admissions committee will even LOOK at it. I'm glad I found this out before I burned more money on their secondary. I happened to call VWSOM afterwards, nicest person I have ever talked to answered the phone. What a difference it makes.

From page 1 of 13 of their application.

• Admissions Committee Review: Applications are reviewed from early September through March. Completion of a supplemental application does not guarantee committee review.

 

[Avoidthetiger]

From page 1 of 13 of their application.

• Admissions Committee Review: Applications are reviewed from early September through March. Completion of a supplemental application does not guarantee committee review.

So pretty much SDN should boycott MSU-COM. I bet they will lose alot of good applicants... or maybe it will make their life easier. But seriously, if I pay $85, you better read my application!!!

 

[EgyptianDoc]

I agree completely. I applied there and after receiving their secondary, I will NOT be applying. The secondary is actually 13 separate forms and they refuse to accept any letters, you must have your letter writers rewrite everything. Tack on the fact that I called the school asking a quick question about the OOS tuition and had this exchange.

Ringing
MSUCOM- Hello?
HockeyDr09- Hello, I am a potential applicant, I was hoping you could answer a quick question I had regarding the out of state tuition.

MSUCOM- What about it?
HockeyDr09- Well, I see here that the OOS tuition is 70K, I was curious if you offer in-state tuition after a year of living there and paying OOS.

MSUCOM- No.
HockeyDr09- (thinking thats it? just no?) Oh, okay, thanks, just curious, i'm not sure if you know this or not but is that the norm for schools? Do most schools require to pay OOS all four years?

MSUCOM- How am I supposed to know. Anything else?
HockeyDr09- um, no thanks for your help (I guess)
click

(note I am NOT over-exaggerating)

I was shocked how rude the person on the phone was. They expect me to pay them 70K a year. The secondary says after you fill it out in its entirety, and pay them $85, they do not even guarantee the admissions committee will even LOOK at it. I'm glad I found this out before I burned more money on their secondary. I happened to call VWSOM afterwards, nicest person I have ever talked to answered the phone. What a difference it makes.

From page 1 of 13 of their application.

• Admissions Committee Review: Applications are reviewed from early September through March. Completion of a supplemental application does not guarantee committee review.

@70K/year you already know they favor IS over OOS. I got a completely different vibe from the school but then again I'm an IS student. Could they have been a little nicer in regards to your questions? Yes, but in all honesty, I don't blame her for not knowing the answer. It's a different game for every school and you just have to learn to adapt.

 

[Orthodoc40]

Wow, what a rude phone conversation!

BTW, the OOS deal is determined by the University's Registrar, not COM's.
The deal is, once you begin as an OOS student, you stay that way for the time you are there. You can defer your start, move to MI, and work in MI for a year to become instate, but I'd check the specific requirements from MSU's Registrar's office before trying it, to make sure you really would qualify.

 

[EgyptianDoc]

Wow, what a rude phone conversation!

BTW, the OOS deal is determined by the University's Registrar, not COM's.
The deal is, once you begin as an OOS student, you stay that way for the time you are there. You can defer your start, move to MI, and work in MI for a year to become instate, but I'd check the specific requirements from MSU's Registrar's office before trying it, to make sure you really would qualify.

You need a Michigan drivers license for a minimum of 6 months and proof of work or home ownership for a minimum of 1 year to be considered for IS tuition. It would also have to occur before MS1 as Orthodoc stated.

 

[HockeyDr09]

@70K/year you already know they favor IS over OOS. I got a completely different vibe from the school but then again I'm an IS student. Could they have been a little nicer in regards to your questions? Yes, but in all honesty, I don't blame her for not knowing the answer. It's a different game for every school and you just have to learn to adapt.

I wasn't upset that she didn't know the answer, it was more her attitude toward me throughout the conversation. Maybe she was just having a bad day, who knows.

 

[Skippygonenuts]

...I happened to call VWSOM afterwards, nicest person I have ever talked to answered the phone. What a difference it makes.

was it Annette that u spoke to? She is quite possibly the sweetest person alive. She couldn't believed it when I told her once before about msucom's attitude on the phone. Or how the lady at NYCOM clicked in my face twice cus I was asking her what were the average mcat and gpa for accepted applicants and she "didn't have time for this".

Some schools are amazing...

 

[Everglide]

The secondary says after you fill it out in its entirety, and pay them $85, they do not even guarantee the admissions committee will even LOOK at it. I'm glad I found this out before I burned more money on their secondary. I happened to call VWSOM afterwards, nicest person I have ever talked to answered the phone. What a difference it makes.

From page 1 of 13 of their application.

• Admissions Committee Review: Applications are reviewed from early September through March. Completion of a supplemental application does not guarantee committee review.

I was under the impression the majority of schools don't look at all of their secondaries - especially if they don't screen to begin with.

 

[Whites83]

I'm a reapplicant this year, and MSUCOM is my top choice. Couple things to say about the complaints on this thread -

1) They don't accept Interfolio because they only take 2 letters of evaluation, and they have specific questions they want your evaluators to answer. They do this because they (in most cases) do not interview candidates, they simply accept on the basis of the primary/secondary application. I understand some people don't want to ask their letter writers for a second letter, but it might be worth not having to travel for an interview.

2) As for not guaranteeing a review of your secondary - I assume this is common practice at schools who do not screen prior to sending secondaries. I know that after MSUCOM gets your secondary, they look first for specific points on your primary (GPA, MCAT, community service hours). If you meet their requirements, then your app gets passed on to the committee. So make sure you meet the requirements posted on their website.

3) As for friendliness - I've had several advising appointments at various schools over the last year, and my MSUCOM appointment was by far the best. The staff was courteous and kind, and the advisor was top notch. The strictness of their directions is not unique to MSUCOM, I've found similar directions on many other applications.

In addition, I know many admissions office workers get annoyed because they have to answer the same questions over and over again - *especially* when the answers can be found on the schools website. Oftentimes I've stopped myself from calling a school so I could first search their website, and I've found the answer 9/10 times. Always search the website first, it might take some extra time, but I bet the answers are available.

 

[singinfifi]

was it Annette that u spoke to? She is quite possibly the sweetest person alive. She couldn't believed it when I told her once before about msucom's attitude on the phone. Or how the lady at NYCOM clicked in my face twice cus I was asking her what were the average mcat and gpa for accepted applicants and she "didn't have time for this".

Some schools are amazing...

Annette is the sweetest person on the planet, I wound up declining my acceptance to WVSOM (which was my first choice until I interviewed at my current school in March/April) after I'd paid my deposit, she actually said (when I called) "We're sorry to lose you, but I'm glad you found somewhere you'll be happy, that's what's important. I'm so sorry you lost your deposit" I didn't even MENTION the deposit. She seemed genuinely sorry.

It's been 2 years and I still remember that conversation. I damn near considered saying "No! I take it back! I'm still coming!"

It's AMAZING what a difference admissions staff makes. There was someone working in admissions at NSU too who made a HUGE difference in how I viewed the school. It really does matter. I wish people who worked in admissions understood this. Yeah, I didn't go to WVSOM, despite how amazing they were but I also flat out turned down 2 schools b/c of how rude their admissions staff was.

 

[Skippygonenuts]

Exactly! If there treating perspective how will they treat their students. All admissions offices get the same questions over n over..especially schools like pikeville Lmu-DCOM wvsom but they're some of the nicest people..

The guy OUCOM stayed on the phone with me for about 30 mins just giving me admissions advice and telling me about my chances.

Getting asked the same question over n over is no excuse to be rude! Especially when that's your job description!

 

[The Poet Sings]

Getting asked the same question over n over is no excuse to be rude! Especially when that's your job description!

just had to point out how true this is.

 

[sedaniel]

just had to point out how true this is.

Agreed

 

[premed1231]

I agree completely. I applied there and after receiving their secondary, I will NOT be applying. The secondary is actually 13 separate forms and they refuse to accept any letters, you must have your letter writers rewrite everything. Tack on the fact that I called the school asking a quick question about the OOS tuition and had this exchange.

Ringing
MSUCOM- Hello?
HockeyDr09- Hello, I am a potential applicant, I was hoping you could answer a quick question I had regarding the out of state tuition.

MSUCOM- What about it?
HockeyDr09- Well, I see here that the OOS tuition is 70K, I was curious if you offer in-state tuition after a year of living there and paying OOS.

MSUCOM- No.
HockeyDr09- (thinking thats it? just no?) Oh, okay, thanks, just curious, i'm not sure if you know this or not but is that the norm for schools? Do most schools require to pay OOS all four years?

MSUCOM- How am I supposed to know. Anything else?
HockeyDr09- um, no thanks for your help (I guess)
click

(note I am NOT over-exaggerating)

I was shocked how rude the person on the phone was. They expect me to pay them 70K a year. The secondary says after you fill it out in its entirety, and pay them $85, they do not even guarantee the admissions committee will even LOOK at it. I'm glad I found this out before I burned more money on their secondary. I happened to call VWSOM afterwards, nicest person I have ever talked to answered the phone. What a difference it makes.

From page 1 of 13 of their application.

• Admissions Committee Review: Applications are reviewed from early September through March. Completion of a supplemental application does not guarantee committee review.

I hate to say this but MSUCOM lost my LORs. Also the deadline for their secondary is WAY earlier than any other school's. By the time I found out they didn't get my LORs, I already submitted the secondary and paid the app fee but it was too late. $70k a year is NOT worth it either.

The staff at WVSOM are the nicest people on earth. If anyone gets an interview there, you should definitely go! I almost passed it up since it's in the middle of nowhere, but after I got accepted I actually canceled 3 other interviews because I knew there wouldn't be another school like WVSOM. It's the most amazing school I've ever seen... everything is new and very high tech. You would be surprised since it's so rural but definitely don't pass it up, you will not be disappointed!

 

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[FutureCTDoc]

I think the rudest/most useless award goes to LECOM-E's ophtho program. I called regarding internships, shadowing and I'm also trying to gauge the caliber of applicants there. I ask whether they let undergrads shadow, their reply speak to XYZ, same for COMLEX, class rank etc. Left a message they never returned it.

 

[scudrunner]

I must say, I'm a student at MSUCOM, and the faculty/staff are absolutely great. I'm not sure who is answering the phone, probably a secretary, but they are really misrepresenting the college. I have not met a rude or disrespectful person there yet. Most of the teaching faculty are phenomenal too, by far the best professors I've ever had.

The reason they have such a horrible secondary is because they use that in lieu of an interview. It is worth the extra time and effort. MSU COM is a great place.

The LOR issue is along those same lines, they want the writer to answer specific questions about the applicant- that is why a generic letter from interfolio won't work.

As for OOS tuition, lots of schollarship opportunities, some specifically for OOSers.

And one additional selling point, the SCS.

 

[ScottMontgomery]

I spent a day with a medical student at MSU, attended the MSUCOM open house, met with the MSU ADCOMs at a few osteopathic colleges seminars. I have never once been treated rudely from them.

Terri Cregg has always been very very helpful in anyway possible. I have emailed several times with her, and she gives me tips and tricks when preparing a 2ndary for MSUCOM.

I have NEVER been treated like some of you are describing.

Not to say it didn't happen to you, but it didnt happen to me.

BTW, when I did the "Shadow a medical student day" the entire staff, were very welcoming and made me feel at home. Could of stood there and asked 100 questions.

 

[Skippygonenuts]

I spent a day with a medical student at MSU, attended the MSUCOM open house, met with the MSU ADCOMs at a few osteopathic colleges seminars. I have never once been treated rudely from them.

Terri Cregg has always been very very helpful in anyway possible. I have emailed several times with her, and she gives me tips and tricks when preparing a 2ndary for MSUCOM.

I have NEVER been treated like some of you are describing.

Not to say it didn't happen to you, but it didnt happen to me.

BTW, when I did the "Shadow a medical student day" the entire staff, were very welcoming and made me feel at home. Could of stood there and asked 100 questions.

I'm glad you had a good experience there...maybe when they see you in person its harder to be rude...but whoever is picking up the phone has a completely different attitude.

But deciding whether its the people you met, or if its the people we spoke to on the phone who are misrepresenting the school isn't my call to make..

 

[ruiner]

The secondary is long because they rarely interview. As for the not guaranteeing that your secondary will go before the ADCOM, that is exactly the same as any other school. You wouldn't go before them until you had an interview, so are you going to get pissed at every school that dosn't interview you because your app didn't even go before the ADCOM?

They don't use Interfolio because they have their own form for letters of recommendation. And they really don't care who writes it, as long as it is someone that knows you well. I had bosses from two jobs write it and got in about 2 weeks after completion.

As for the phone conversation yeah she could have been nicer but at the same time would you call Walmart and ask about inventory at Target? Because essentially that's what you asked her.

 

[Skippygonenuts]

Acually sometimes at walmart you'll ull find the guy in the sales section who is more than willing to help u find what you need even if its from somewhere else at a lower price because he is on the frontline for that store. His attitude is what makes people say "I like this place and I'll come back" or "people here are jerks".

And for the record, I don't think asking them what their average gpa/mcat for matriculants really correlates with your analogy..

 

[calvinhobbes]

For the record, I've called them several times asking questions, and I've never spoken to a rude person over the phone; just the contrary, the ladies I spoke to were very nice, willing to answer questions, etc.

Everyone has their bad days, etc. Perhaps you spoke to someone who was just having a ****ty day

 

[sharksRfriends]

Well, unfortunately, you would have been able to find out about the letter requirements had you looked in the College Information Book. I know it sucks, but I didn't apply to MSU for that reason. It's always best to research each school's individual requirements for this exact reason, prior to applying.

And I don't think any school guarantees they'll look at your supplemental application. I would imagine that MSU has such a high OOS tuition because it's a state school. They are clearly looking to fill their class with mostly in-state students. Another reason I didn't apply to MSU ... I'm not from Michigan. And if you could simply get in-state tuition after a year at these schools ... well that wouldn't make sense.

As for being rude ... they should be nice, even if they answer the same questions all day long. There isn't any excuse for rudeness.

 

[ruiner]

Acually sometimes at walmart you'll ull find the guy in the sales section who is more than willing to help u find what you need even if its from somewhere else at a lower price because he is on the frontline for that store. His attitude is what makes people say "I like this place and I'll come back" or "people here are jerks".

And for the record, I don't think asking them what their average gpa/mcat for matriculants really correlates with your analogy..

That clearly was not the question I was comparing it to....

 

[Skippygonenuts]

Perhaps ur right..just to make myself clear, I do not have anything against the school. I am certain it's a great school and just as with every school, it has it's ups and downs. My ups may be ur downs and vice versa. Or perhaps I encountered an event that others may have not.

Nonetheless, I just want it clear that IMO I have nothing against the school. However since I am not the only one who had this encounter with the admissions office, I am sure there is someone inside who is having multiple bad days..either that or maybe we all called on the same day..I dunno, anything is possible I guess.

They just made a bad first impression on me from the get..I'm sure there's more good under the surface, but with the attitude I received I wasn't really too interested in scratching.

 

[sedaniel]

Sorry to jump in mid-conversation, but I was really excited about applying here, and now I might not because they won't accept my class as "behavioral science" (a class that other schools are accepting for behavioral science credit).

ANTHRBIO 368 - Primate Social Behavior I (Crosslisted as PSYCH 338)
This course will review the social systems and behavior of our closest living relatives, the primates. The course will be divided into three parts. I will begin by outlining questions about primate behavior. In this section the order primates will be introduced by examining the biology and behaviour of prosimians, monkeys, and apes. Second, various aspects of social primate systems including spacing, mating, and grouping patterns will be discussed. The course will conclude by reviewing selected topics of primate behavior, such as infanticide and vocal communication. I will draw heavily on field studies of primates and emphasize their behavior in natural environmental and social settings.

Sounds like behavioral science to me. I mean, I'm not going back to undergrad to spend money on credits to fulfill a flippin' behavioral science requirement.... I took a 3 credit sociology course that they are counting, so if they don't waive my last 3 credits, I guess I'll save myself the secondary app fee.

Just had to vent, I feel much better now 😀

 

[MLT2MT2DO]

Sorry to jump in mid-conversation, but I was really excited about applying here, and now I might not because they won't accept my class as "behavioral science" (a class that other schools are accepting for behavioral science credit).



Sounds like behavioral science to me. I mean, I'm not going back to undergrad to spend money on credits to fulfill a flippin' behavioral science requirement.... I took a 3 credit sociology course that they are counting, so if they don't waive my last 3 credits, I guess I'll save myself the secondary app fee.

Just had to vent, I feel much better now 😀

Probably want a "human" behavioral science.

 

[sedaniel]

Probably want a "human" behavioral science.

I gave them another class that was definitely human behavioral too and they wouldn't accept it. Although honestly, every "definition" of behavioral science I've ever come across (and yes I googled/wikipedia-ed it to be exact haha) says behavioral science encompasses all organisms, so I think they're being overly picky. Whatevs, I'm not applying there anymore. Save my $85 😀

 

[ScottMontgomery]

Just to give everyone else who may not of seen the application pre reqs. This is directly from MSU website...

I am with you, I think your class definitely should of been ok for behavioral science, but here is MSUs description.

Behavioral Science
Courses that study the behavior of individuals and/or groups fulfill this requirement. Examples: cultural anthropology, cultural geography, psychology, sociology, social psychology, social work, management, organizational development, military leadership/command. Courses that study theories and belief systems, such as philosophy, ethics or religious studies, do not meet this requirement.

Your class: Primate Social Behavior. MSU requirement: Course's that study the Behavior of individuals and/or groups.

Primates = Group. Behavior = Behavior. Hmmm? Right there in their description it says you took a class that fulfills the requirement. Show them their own paper.

 

[sedaniel]

Just to give everyone else who may not of seen the application pre reqs. This is directly from MSU website...

I am with you, I think your class definitely should of been ok for behavioral science, but here is MSUs description.

Behavioral Science
Courses that study the behavior of individuals and/or groups fulfill this requirement. Examples: cultural anthropology, cultural geography, psychology, sociology, social psychology, social work, management, organizational development, military leadership/command. Courses that study theories and belief systems, such as philosophy, ethics or religious studies, do not meet this requirement.

Your class: Primate Social Behavior. MSU requirement: Course's that study the Behavior of individuals and/or groups.

Primates = Group. Behavior = Behavior. Hmmm? Right there in their description it says you took a class that fulfills the requirement. Show them their own paper.

The argumentative side of me really wants to email her back and point this s*** out... but that's probably not the best approach.

I bet they saw "University of Michigan" on my transcript and said "let's find a reason to not let her in" 😀 haha... justttt kiddin' 🙂

 

[wolverinepwns]

1)So if you took a year off after graduating and have all your LORs sent directly from school, they won't even take that!!! how the hell are the professors suppose to remember you! that doesn't make any sence!!!!

2)If it is your job to answer any questions that the future applicant have then you should do your job, now I understand that some questions can be answered on the web, but in that case she should have gave a quick answered and referred you to the website!! Just because a Cardiologist sees patients with heart problems all day doesn't mean he has the write to get pissy by the end of the day!

3)The school makes a ton of money due to the secondaries! so you think they would be a tad bit nicer about it! and someone said something about how they decide on acceptances without an interview! I hope that's not! Just because you look good on paper and can write doesn't mean you can talk and be presentable which is why the interview is so important!

 

[deleted285117]

They do decide on acceptances w/o interview. This is because the secondary is so extensive. Heck, you have to include things you did in your high school years.

I applied last year and completed my secondary, but it took forever. Not doing it again. Out of state tuition is ridiculous.

 

[TripodLuv]

HockeyDr - I had a similar experience when I called to see if I just meet an admissions advisor during a campus visit. I'm from Michigan, and I was going to come see the campus on my own (I wasn't requesting a tour). I was told no, I could come to the open house in April.

 

[TripodLuv]

1)So if you took a year off after graduating and have all your LORs sent directly from school, they won't even take that!!! how the hell are the professors suppose to remember you! that doesn't make any sence!!!!

Your LOR's for MSUCOM don't have to come from professors or a DO. They only have to come from someone who really knows you and can answer the questions thoroughly, which ask for comments on things like commitment to the osteopathic profession and leadership capabilities.

 

[wolverinepwns]

Your LOR's for MSUCOM don't have to come from professors or a DO. They only have to come from someone who really knows you and can answer the questions thoroughly, which ask for comments on things like commitment to the osteopathic profession and leadership capabilities.

Really? So I can have the physicians that I work with at the hospital and know me fill them out! they don't have to be from my academic professor? this sounds too good to be true.

 

[Whites83]

Really? So I can have the physicians that I work with at the hospital and know me fill them out! they don't have to be from my academic professor? this sounds too good to be true.

The idea is for you to provide letters from people who know you well and have known you for a long time. They use these to get a sense of your character, since they don't do interviews.


There is a lot of complaining on this thread about MSUCOM, but I've got to say I've had the opposite experience. I've called the office several times and they've been very helpful and kind. I made an appointment to see an admissions advisor and it was exceptionally helpful, she really took the time to give me all the info I needed. I was also given a one-on-one tour of the Macomb campus by another advisor, who was also extremely nice and informative. I'm sure all schools garner their fair share of complaints.

 

[ScottMontgomery]

If anyone is interested, here is the official evaluation form from MSU for references.

NOTE: I have attached the entire evaluation packet.

Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine

Evaluation Form Instructions​

To the Applicant:

Required:

• Two separate forms from two different individuals
• Letters/committee packets ARE NOT accepted in lieu of the forms
• Letters may be attached to the form, evaluators must complete and attach the first and last pages of the form

Selecting Evaluators:

• Academic and/or DO Physician recommendations are not required
• Do NOT use family members or your personal friends.
• The single most important criterion is that they know you well
• Individuals to consider: supervisors of work or volunteer experiences; coaches; mentors; clergy members; family friends who have observed your personal development
• Other considerations: have you discussed your interest in osteopathic medicine with them; have they observed you working in a group/team; have they observed you in a leadership role; would they choose you as a personal physician

Procedure:

• Choose prospective evaluators who are able and willing to complete the forms within a month
• Complete the top section of page 1 and sign the form
• Give one signed form with a copy of these instructions to each evaluator
• Check on your application status regularly, to ensure arrival of both forms
• We highly recommend that you provide a prepaid mailer that will be delivered directly to our office. Please specify that delivery may only take place Monday through Friday.

To the Evaluator:

OPTIONS:

Method 1: Complete all sections of the form, sign and mail original. Signatures are required.

Method 2: Prepare your comments on a computer, numbered to correspond to the form sections, attach to completed first and last pages of the form.

Method 3: Attach a letter of recommendation to the completed first and last pages of the form. This method is least preferable, as all applicants are evaluated in the areas specified in the form.

Mailing Address: MSUCOM Admissions Office, A136 E. Fee Hall, Michigan State University, E. Lansing, MI 48824-1316.

NOTE: Please keep a copy of the form. Should it be lost in the USPS or MSU mail system, we might have to ask for another copy.

Thank you for your willingness to participate in the MSUCOM admissions process.

 

[wolverinepwns]

thank you! this definitely clarifies it!

 

[shinny04]

Really? They accept without interview? Never heard of it. Is it in-state or out-of-state student?

They do decide on acceptances w/o interview. This is because the secondary is so extensive. Heck, you have to include things you did in your high school years.

I applied last year and completed my secondary, but it took forever. Not doing it again. Out of state tuition is ridiculous.

 

[deleted285117]

They can accept you w/o interview whether you are in-state or out-of-state. You have a better chance if you're in-state though. Crazy, I know.

 

[shinny04]

Thanks. Is it based on volunteer hours? If so, how many? I have good GPA but low MCAT score. I meet their minimum requirement though and I am OOS.

They can accept you w/o interview whether you are in-state or out-of-state. You have a better chance if you're in-state though. Crazy, I know.

 

[ScottMontgomery]

Thanks. Is it based on volunteer hours? If so, how many? I have good GPA but low MCAT score. I meet their minimum requirement though and I am OOS.

800 volunteer hours minimum... DOES NOT have to be medically related.

 

[shinny04]

Does the 800 hours include high school years or they only count college years and beyond? Thanks.

800 volunteer hours minimum... DOES NOT have to be medically related.

 

[ScottMontgomery]

They will accept HS hours as well... Might have to be verified though. You will need to fill out a non academic worksheet for your volunteer hours. I have attached this to my post.