WVSOM vs. LMU-DCOM

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Which would you choose between the two? I'm oos for both.
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muffinbakinginprocess said:
LMUDCOM is getting better especially with the newly expanded campus in Knoxville though.
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WVSOM>LMU

Just because LMU is opening a new campus does not mean the school is getting better. In fact, I would argue that opening a new campus would worsen the quality of education. New campus = more students = more difficulty in gaining a half decent clinical rotation site. Instead of opening a new campus... why wouldn’t LMU delegate it’s time/resources for improving their clinical education? It just doesn’t seem like they have their students best interest.
 
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CJhooper123 said:
WVSOM>LMU

Just because LMU is opening a new campus does not mean the school is getting better. In fact, I would argue that opening a new campus would worsen the quality of education. New campus = more students = more difficulty in gaining a half decent clinical rotation site. Instead of opening a new campus... why wouldn’t LMU delegate it’s time/resources for improving their clinical education? It just doesn’t seem like they have their students best interest.
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Im curious. Why are you so certain that their rotation sites are crappy?
 
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I have not yet seen an LMUDCOM student State dissatisfaction with their rotations. I’ve only read other people saying it. Am I wrong?


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3IDMedic said:
I have not yet seen an LMUDCOM student State dissatisfaction with their rotations. I’ve only read other people saying it. Am I wrong?


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3IDMedic said:
Are you a student at LMUDCOM? Or am I right that it is only people outside the school perpetuating this dissatisfaction?
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I have a family member who went there and am currently friends with one of our residents who went there. Both of them told me I should thank my lucky stars I get to rotate in a teaching hospital because LMU rotations are complete garbage. It's not just people from the outside. The info comes from people who go there.
 
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I would attend WVSOM because it has a much better track record. And I've also heard of bad rotation sites from LMU students as well, which I assume will only get worse when they open their branch campus in Knoxville.

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alprazoslam said:
I go to dcom and what anatomygrey says is fact. I’m at one of the five decent sites and it’s not even a teaching hospital. But we have several teaching hospitals nearby so it’s not too bad. Most rotation sites are lolbad

So 5/24ish sites are good and honestly adding the Knox campus without telling people where they are going to rotate is sorta meh. I can assure you it won’t be at UT medical center though. They don’t like LMU students until you apply for residency then they acknowledge your exsistance but until then no

I love my site and have no complaints but if I got sent to one of the BFE Sites honestly I would have tried to transfer schools

I know nothing about WVCOM so can’t compare


Our preclinical curriculum first year is good tho. Second year isn’t great bc our clinica faculty are hit or miss.

Good thing about the school is we don’t have busy work third year they fixed that and also they added more board dedicated time for current second years.
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Thank you for this response. I’m going to take a tour of the new campus this week before making my decision and will ask about the new clinical sites. Hopefully they can spend the next two years building their clinical education.


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3IDMedic said:
Thank you for this response. I’m going to take a tour of the new campus this week before making my decision and will ask about the new clinical sites. Hopefully they can spend the next two years building their clinical education.


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I really don’t know if our sites are worse than the average DO school though. The bar seems pretty low at most schools but I know we aren’t teaching hospital related which is a big deficit. Plus they really really push primary care onto you which sorta makes me want to not do it just bc they try to force u into it they way they set up rotations
 
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alprazoslam said:
Plus they really really push primary care onto you which sorta makes me want to not do it just bc they try to force u into it they way they set up rotations
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Oh don't worry, my school does this too. So many mandatory PC rotations: OMM, Rural clinic, community IM x2, all on top of the usual peds, FM, IM, OB, etc.
 
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alprazoslam said:
I go to dcom and what anatomygrey says is fact. I’m at one of the five decent sites and it’s not even a teaching hospital. But we have several teaching hospitals nearby so it’s not too bad. Most rotation sites are lolbad

So 5/24ish sites are good and honestly adding the Knox campus without telling people where they are going to rotate is sorta meh. I can assure you it won’t be at UT medical center though. They don’t like LMU students until you apply for residency then they acknowledge your exsistance but until then no

I love my site and have no complaints but if I got sent to one of the BFE Sites honestly I would have tried to transfer schools

I know nothing about WVCOM so can’t compare


Our preclinical curriculum first year is good tho. Second year isn’t great bc our clinica faculty are hit or miss.

Good thing about the school is we don’t have busy work third year they fixed that and also they added more board dedicated time for current second years.
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Hey, I go to ARCOM, and I think LMU shares 1 or 2 sites with us. I know for a fact that Sparks health system (Now Baptist health, recently bought) in Fort Smith, AR is one of them because some of LMU students rotating there come to my school during OMM lab sometimes brought by some of our faculty that work at that Hospital. So my question is do you think that's one of the "Ok" rotating sites or not? I know that Baptist health in Little Rock have just opened new residency programs in coordination with UAMS, and it's also one of our roatating sites. Sparks health system was trying to open residency programs through our school, but I don't know if Baptist health will keep pursuing it. I'm just wondering because I'm trying to decide which site I wanna choose by December this year. I'm leaning towards Baptist health in Little Rock or Unity Health (50 minutes from Little Rock) because I know they have residency programs already up and running at those hospitals. Chi St Vincent also close to Little Rock is also seeking accreditation for some Residency programs through our school as well. Any advice on that? Thanks for your help already.

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Hey, I go to ARCOM, and I think LMU shares 1 or 2 sites with us. I know for a fact that Sparks health system (Now Baptist health, recently bought) in Fort Smith, AR is one of them because some of LMU students rotating there come to my school during OMM lab sometimes brought by some of our faculty that work at that Hospital. So my question is do you think that's one of the "Ok" rotating sites or not? I know that Baptist health in Little Rock have just opened new residency programs in coordination with UAMS, and it's also one of our roatating sites. Sparks health system was trying to open residency programs through our school, but I don't know if Baptist health will keep pursuing it. I'm just wondering because I'm trying to decide which site I wanna choose by December this year. I'm leaning towards Baptist health in Little Rock or Unity Health (50 minutes from Little Rock) because I know they have residency programs already up and running at those hospitals. Chi St Vincent also close to Little Rock is also seeking accreditation for some Residency programs through our school as well. Any advice on that? Thanks for your help already.

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People tend to like that site and a lot rank it. Along with Memphis, corinth, ohio, and a couple other decent ones. All of the above have residents. The rest don’t really or if they do it’s some community hub like norton virgina which only has FM IM or hazard KY which had FM only. Both are not great for residency unless you want to go to one of those progs which you shouldn’t because why would somebody do residency at a community hospital.

The other decent thing is you can get many of your rotations away from ur main site. The school doesn’t tel you that bc it’s not work for them. Even your cores. So if you get stuff in some craphole like Harlan KY then just fight to get them setup elsewhere
 
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alprazoslam said:
which you shouldn’t because why would somebody do residency at a community hospital.
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To there fair there are lots of reasons why a community hospital would be good for residency in certain specialties, FM and EM being some examples.
 
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To there fair there are lots of reasons why a community hospital would be good for residency in certain specialties, FM and EM being some examples.
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Not these ones but maybe corinth. I know where I am in moderate sized city the fm residents are better off here than they arw in the community hospitals.


I should have specified community hospitals in BFE aren’t good to be in. But ones closer to big hospitals are great bc you do your main stuff there. But can still do electives at the big places

I can’t reccomend tiny community hospitals for FM or IM they might never see a chest pain on wards since er sent them to somewhere that had int cardio. A community hospital with no specialists usually ends up as a glorified nursing home. I know bc I worked at one as a nurse. Plus their icus are usually like four beds with like not very sick ppl bc no pulm cc backup

Of course it varies but I wouldn’t want to be somewhere where everything serious gets shipped out
 
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alprazoslam said:
Not these ones but maybe corinth. I know where I am in moderate sized city the fm residents are better off here than they arw in the community hospitals.


I should have specified community hospitals in BFE aren’t good to be in. But ones closer to big hospitals are great bc you do your main stuff there. But can still do electives at the big places

I can’t reccomend tiny community hospitals for FM or IM they might never see a chest pain on wards since er sent them to somewhere that had int cardio. A community hospital with no specialists usually ends up as a glorified nursing home. I know bc I worked at one as a nurse. Plus their icus are usually like four beds with like not very sick ppl bc no pulm cc backup

Of course it varies but I wouldn’t want to be somewhere where everything serious gets shipped out
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Oh definitely. That’s not what I had in mind when you said community. Yeah those places should be avoided like the plague for training.
 
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