??? WW Game Thread - October 2021

[Animal Midwife]

For the record, this is why I have to say the things I do day one and on repeat throughout games.

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[Viscernable]

unvote shorty
Vote AM

I like spice

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why not sunny instead of vis? Then it doesn't violate likely pack numbers.

Can you give me one villagey explanation for why Zenge lied about Vis being outted and Vis accepted that and voted shorty (and not Zenge)?

 

[Animal Midwife]

#### unvote Vis ####

#### vote AM ####

To add some spice as well. Plus I would like to hear more from her, and from Zenge about Vis night results.

I have a weird feeling about all this.

What did you want to hear? About me giving you the Choke Award this year?

 

[Viscernable]

Can you give me one villagey explanation for why Zenge lied about Vis being outted and Vis accepted that and voted shorty (and not Zenge)?

Not really a way to resolve this without me being yeeted. I guess Z could be exactly the last wolf, but it’s just such a weird strategy to lie about seering at this stage. Honestly I believe there must be something that messed with results and I’m hoping you’ll all be able to investigate everyone instead of tunnelling onto Z, because assuming one wolf left there’s only room for 2 misyeets.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not really a way to resolve this without me being yeeted. I guess Z could be exactly the last wolf, but it’s just such a weird strategy to lie about seering at this stage. Honestly I believe there must be something that messed with results and I’m hoping you’ll all be able to investigate everyone instead of tunnelling onto Z, because assuming one wolf left there’s only room for 2 misyeets.

Thank you, Vis.

 

[Crayola227]

There were wagons viable besides myself last night, not sure why Vis as a scum member would join Chaos on the vote at that point. But maybe I'm misunderstanding the VCA.

 

[Zenge142]

Yeet Viscernable

Tell me more about your Viscernable Concernables

I don’t understand this progression. The Dubz kill made you yeet Vis? Is that it?

No. My night results did.

And then there’s that part of my brain that goes “maybe AM converted Zenge last night.”

Probably this happened

I think Z is a phasing wolf ya’ll

Vote shorty

Found the wolf

It means Vis is openly wolfing.

I would never

I’m not really sure how anyone could look at this progression of posts from the start of the day to now and somehow come to the conclusion that Midwife is a wolf, or a viable yeet candidate. But somehow, here we are.

 

[Crayola227]

Can you give me one villagey explanation for why Zenge lied about Vis being outted and Vis accepted that and voted shorty (and not Zenge)?

Why hasn't Zenge had more to say on the topic?

I don't know what Vis is doing right now.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why hasn't Zenge had more to say on the topic?

I don't know what Vis is doing right now.

Cray. I'm terrible at mechanics and I still picked up what he's saying. Either stay in Lawpy's tinfoil thirst land or come back to concrete mechanical solving.

 

[Crayola227]

Cray. I'm terrible at mechanics and I still picked up what he's saying. Either stay in Lawpy's tinfoil thirst land or come back to concrete mechanical solving.

So he seered her? Why not just say as much?

 

[Animal Midwife]

So he seered her? Why not just say as much?

He doesn't need to say the specific night actions when things are this glaringly obvious. It's even more obvious than "alpha dubz" y'all were stuck on last cycle.

 

[Zenge142]

Why hasn't Zenge had more to say on the topic?

I don't know what Vis is doing right now.

I haven’t really had the need to. I basically said, I was wrong about Vis and am doing a 180 on my read and voting her because of what night results I got. After saying as much Vis has basically been open wolfing and **** posting.

Not really sure what more you want short of a full on role reveal. Would rather just hold that back unless I really have to.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm starting to get paranoid that somone here is a 3P and needs Vis yeeted tonight for the win.

No idea otherwise why a wolf Vis rolls over this easy and doesn't make you come out and say what supposed results you had.

She doesn't feel like fighting your fake claim? Or she wants to be yeeted?

 

[Zenge142]

I'm starting to get paranoid that somone here is a 3P and needs Vis yeeted tonight for the win.

No idea otherwise why a wolf Vis rolls over this easy and doesn't make you come out and say what supposed results you had.

She doesn't feel like fighting your fake claim? Or she wants to be yeeted?

Or maybe she just knows the jig is up.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I haven’t really had the need to. I basically said, I was wrong about Vis and am doing a 180 on my read and voting her because of what night results I got. After saying as much Vis has basically been open wolfing and **** posting.

Not really sure what more you want short of a full on role reveal. Would rather just hold that back unless I really have to.

Even if Vis is the last wolf, like I strongly suspect, it's better for village's skillset to learn to read between the lines with PR info drops (which SDN is notoriously terrible at) instead of being handfed everything. So I'd prefer you didn't. Your VCA and conviction should be enough for people to believe you.

 

[genny]

I'm starting to get paranoid that somone here is a 3P and needs Vis yeeted tonight for the win.

No idea otherwise why a wolf Vis rolls over this easy and doesn't make you come out and say what supposed results you had.

She doesn't feel like fighting your fake claim? Or she wants to be yeeted?

Maybe because it's working on you and sunshine. You're voting with a wolf, Cray. Water u doin.

 

[Zenge142]

Also, aside from my night results, let’s look at some interesting thread interactions.

I posted my original “early village lean on vis” post. Chaos, immediately commended me for it, and shut down dissent of it. Good way to try and pocket me, and support a pack mate.

I asked Vis’s thoughts on Chaos point blank and here was the response:

Do you have any thoughts on Chaos?

His thoughts on cray interest me. I’m still not sure I buy them since the general impression I have of cray is that she always sprinkles sus everywhere. But a) reading Dubz’s retrospective, Cray’s posts feel more like the ones from her D1 wolf games to me (I think Dubz came to the opposite conclusion, though) and b) I see what he means about it being a potential scum strategy to stoke suspicion and discord and avoid village blocks. So I’d like to see where the cray vote goes.

Instead of talking about Chaos and providing an actual answer, Vis goes on to use it as a platform to justify voting for Cray, based on Chaos’s read, which boiled down to “Cray is suspicious of everyone” which we told Chaos was normal, and Chaos should have known anyway, but he stayed on Cray, and Vis definitely has played enough games to know that’s a bad reason to try and vote Cray out.

So yeah, my damning night results aside, just based on thread interactions and voting, Vis would still be a decent place to start today.

 

[genny]

Should I run another regular game before LaWWpy or speed? My weekend is free.

CRAY YOU LIKED THIS POST. Think about it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

CRAY YOU LIKED THIS POST. Think about it.

Well, let's not angleshoot. If they misyeet me, I'll keep reminding them about how they're always wrong on me.

 

[supershorty]

@kaydubs

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?? Day 2 ?? Vote Tally

Vis (4) - Zenge, AM, genny, cubs
shorty ()
AM (3) - sunshine, Cray, Vis

Leader: @Viscernable
Missing: no one

Vote closes today at 9 PM CDT (~2.5 hours).
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[genny]

Well, let's not angleshoot. If they misyeet me, I'll keep reminding them about how they're always wrong on me.

Fair enough. I just found it funny, that's all.

 

[Zenge142]

What does this mean?

A phasing wolf is a role I literally made up and posted on discord a couple weeks ago.

The general premise is a player who is a wolf when “phased in” and a villager when “phased out”. The process of phasing in and phasing out happening either automatically with cycle changes or an activated ability where the player chooses when to phase in or out. Up to the game designer really.

But yes, so for Vis to suggest that I’m actually a role that (as far as I know) has never been implemented in a game on SDN, and (as far as I know) I just recently made up, is really just vis trolling.

 

[supershorty]

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I just spent the last 45 minutes ripping out every stitch in a cross stitch because I can't count, so CHECK YO' VOTES.
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[genny]

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I just spent the last 45 minutes ripping out every stitch in a cross stitch because I can't count, so CHECK YO' VOTES.
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Don't ever ask me about the dog hat that I restarted knitting 5 times because I can't count knit 2 purl 2 consistently that my stupid dog won't even wear now.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Maybe because it's working on you and sunshine. You're voting with a wolf, Cray. Water u doin.

You wanna yeet AM still?? Let’s do it?? After all it’s just a game for funsies! @Aprilthearab

 

[genny]

You wanna yeet AM still?? Let’s do it?? After all it’s just a game for funsies! @Aprilthearab

how many beers have you had?????

 

[supershorty]

Don't ever ask me about the dog hat that I restarted knitting 5 times because I can't count knit 2 purl 2 consistently that my stupid dog won't even wear now.

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PROTECT KNITTER!GENNY

And I'd ordered new fabric to start over instead of ripping out all the work I'd done, but then I realized I ordered one that's too small because I CAN'T MEASURE EITHER

well, that's not really accurate. I can measure. But I didn't account for leaving a border for framing purposes.
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[genny]

After all it’s just a game for funsies!

village sweep

 

[cubsrule4e]

how many beers have you had?????

4…. But this one is 12.5%

 

[Viscernable]

how many beers have you had?????

The sheer scale of the angeries if wolfwife is voted out by inebriated cubs after her successful interference with Z’s results… think of the possibilities

 

[cubsrule4e]

how many beers have you had?????

All I was saying is wouldn’t it be nice to misyeet the misyeeter for once??? Let her see how it feels! Then back 2 bizness!

 

[Crayola227]

A phasing wolf is a role I literally made up and posted on discord a couple weeks ago.

The general premise is a player who is a wolf when “phased in” and a villager when “phased out”. The process of phasing in and phasing out happening either automatically with cycle changes or an activated ability where the player chooses when to phase in or out. Up to the game designer really.

But yes, so for Vis to suggest that I’m actually a role that (as far as I know) has never been implemented in a game on SDN, and (as far as I know) I just recently made up, is really just vis trolling.

I feel like we have had this or some version of it at least.

 

[genny]

All I was saying is wouldn’t it be nice to misyeet the misyeeter for once??? Let her see how it feels! Then back 2 bizness!

Ok but if you do that, then she's really going to be insufferable. Can you imagine the choker taunts??

 

[cubsrule4e]

The sheer scale of the angeries if wolfwife is voted out by inebriated cubs after her successful interference with Z’s results… think of the possibilities

I welcome all the angries. I am in the angry!Midwife Hall of Fame, why would I not want to add to my stats??

 

[Crayola227]

All I was saying is wouldn’t it be nice to misyeet the misyeeter for once??? Let her see how it feels! Then back 2 bizness!

I agree with this.

 

[Crayola227]

I guarantee you will see I deserve the opposite of the choker award.

 

[Zenge142]

The sheer scale of the angeries if wolfwife is voted out by inebriated cubs after her successful interference with Z’s results… think of the possibilities

Viscernable pls

 

[cubsrule4e]

Ok but if you do that, then she's really going to be insufferable. Can you imagine the choker taunts??

Ummmmm I yeeted 2 wolves in 2 tries last game and she STILL thought I was a wolf and then after end game called us all CHOKERS!!! Soooooo being labeled a choker doesn’t really phase me at this point… unless it’s Zengy wolf phasing.

 

[Zenge142]

I agree with this.

Okay but I want my village sweep

 

[Animal Midwife]

Good. So let's do it then. Show me you intentionally gamethrow and/or cannot and will not ever be able to read me correctly. I'll know who I can trust in the future.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Good. So let's do it then. Show me you intentionally gamethrow and/or cannot and will not ever be able to read me correctly. I'll know who I can trust in the future.

Is this directed at me?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I didn't mean you, Zenges. You played extremely well this game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is this directed at me?

What do you think?

 

[cubsrule4e]

What do you think?

FFS midwife, can’t you ever take a joke? Also when have you EVER trusted me? Or even given me credit for ANYTHING? Not to go back to last game again but I nailed genny and Mel to the wall with a little help from April and you still pushed my yeet. It’s a mental block for you, I’ll never be good enough based on principle.

 

[Animal Midwife]

FFS midwife, can’t you ever take a joke? Also when have you EVER trusted me? Or even given me credit for ANYTHING? Not to go back to last game again but I nailed genny and Mel to the wall with a little help from April and you still pushed my yeet. It’s a mental block for you, I’ll never be good enough based on principle.

Good joke. Haha.

 

[genny]

Hey look here's a distracting picture of my dog in a hat.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Good joke. Haha.

Please explain softly which part is the joke.

 

[Zenge142]

Hey look here's a distracting picture of my dog in a hat.

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I wish I had a giant hat that went all the way down to my chest. Seems cozy.

 

[genny]

I wish I had a giant hat that went all the way down to my chest. Seems cozy.

Oho! So you noticed the bright red sweatshirt pajamas too!