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StayingPositive2017 said:
Fyi M35 and I have CHILDREN on top of the 8+ hrs of class and studying we do. You have no idea what it's like to do that and only get like 5 hrs of sleep or less. Wednesday night she vomited all evening, and then again at 2 am. I got an HR of sleep before that and then woke up at 5:30AM. Check yourself
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Nooooo Pawsy i'm sorry and i hope she gets well soon!
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
I wonder if the changing colors means that as the story progresses the characters would have changed from mild antagonists to village? Completely unsure about WZ and the question marks.
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We’ve used this in past. Affiliation changed mid game. I think you have it backwards. Started village and then they became sketch.
 
StartingoverVet said:
We’ve used this in past. Affiliation changed mid game. I think you have it backwards. Started village and then they became sketch.
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Little bit weird though since doggo was originally shown in full color. I've for sure seen the half color used for converts and such, but this seems different. They have question marks next to their affiliations too.
 
I think it is worth waiting a day and reassessing. We're glitching and currently without Kailvan - one of the major characters of our story. Without that grounding for the story it's very possible the whole structure for affiliation is fluid rn (something that was mod warned as likely to happen in rules).

Plus we very pointedly don't have Mel's full affiliation. Doubt that's accidental.
 
Some thoughts from my time as a corpse:

Things I would like to know (this is based mostly on D2, so if you have already answered the question I am asking feel free to ignore, I will find it on reread):
How does @Lawper feel about capri now? And genny?

Woah, @dolphin106258 voting for AM is a pretty big deal. How strongly is she feeling about that one?

@mizchiefmanaged - what stood out about jboo compared to the other no or low posters?

Still want @Matthew9Thirtyfive explanation for that eyeroll. And why he decided to vote for stagg (on d2)... Why did he assume people were saying mel was village?

@StayingPositive2017 Did you ever explain the justification behind all the people you were telling us not to lynch?

@CoffeeQuestionMark - why mpm (remember I'm referring to d2)? she explained why not the other leaders, but not why mpm

@muttmanager - what's up with the last minute dolphin to skim switch?

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And some more comments...
Jesus christ did anyone give justification for any of their votes?

The doggo lynch was very groce and I can't figure out why it even existed

"Not digging the leaders": genny, kcough (probably others i got bored)


I feel like it was a total coincidence that a non-villager was lynched tbh. I'm super uncomfortable with how some of the movement there happened. Makes me feel uneasy about the other leaders. I feel like there was someone else on the board that people were trying to save. mpm is obvious because of the blocking claim, whether she's wolf or village i could see villagers moving away from there because of the claim.

But the doggo vote came out of absolutely nowhere with no justification. I need to examine it some more but I feel squicky about coffee and em's votes in particular at the moment. Mutts' vote switch was weird too

Miz's comments about stagg are also rubbing me the wrong way. All he did prior to lynch close was say he was catching up (ok, anyone would be, wolf or village), complain about not being tagged, and self prez. Doesn't mean he's wolf or village, but miz is taking a lot more from that than what was actually there. Sketchy. I know this has already been mentioned, will look for miz's response.

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A couple D3 comments but I'll have more once I reread and make a tracker:

Pip and I were having similar thoughts re: coffee at some point but then I think coffee made a post that I actually was....ok with.
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Because you at the time had created a tie. My goal, with 2 minutes left, was to not have two dead, and I elected to vote the person who had created the tie and was willing to risk that. I would've stayed on mpm otherwise. Like I said, once it wasn't tied, I moved off. If I really wanted to vote you, I wouldn't have moved off.
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I don't agree completely with SAR's read list from yesterday but I like it
SARdoghandler said:
So of the people we're able to vote for today, I have wolfy points for Coffee, Em, Allie, Genny, Mel, and Skim with that list being in approximate order of most sketchy to least sketchy. MPM is still on my radar, but willing to leave that alone for now.

Lynch coffee

Her participation feels different than I'm used to. Normally within a few posts I can be like "Yep, that's village Coffee." and I'm just not getting that same feeling so far this game.
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And all the group vouching is going to start getting on my nerves. Remember people: be very careful with how you phrase your vouches. Don't act like you know more about someone's affiliation than you do. If you have a feeling that they're ok but you can't prove it with mod provided info...make that clear. You don't necessarily need to make it clear when you do have mod provided info unless the person you're protecting is about to be lynched. If we can stick to those guidelines I maybe won't find myself itching to ignore any and all vouches 😛
 
WildZoo said:
And all the group vouching is going to start getting on my nerves. Remember people: be very careful with how you phrase your vouches. Don't act like you know more about someone's affiliation than you do. If you have a feeling that they're ok but you can't prove it with mod provided info...make that clear. You don't necessarily need to make it clear when you do have mod provided info unless the person you're protecting is about to be lynched. If we can stick to those guidelines I maybe won't find myself itching to ignore any and all vouches 😛
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Couldn’t agree more. Just because you are in a pack doesn’t make the person the same affiliation as you IMO, be very careful. I would guess the wolfers have something To convince you otherwise, maybe even in your role ability. There are few (though not none admittedly)that would make me vouch for someone else this point in a game.
 
WildZoo said:
@StayingPositive2017 Did you ever explain the justification behind all the people you were telling us not to lynch?
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I never want to Lynch AM or Mel early game til given reason to. I gave one other solid vouch on thread that I don't think I need to elaborate on, even if they disagree with my reads. Not sure who else you mean
 
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Barks (2) - paws, stagg
sar (2) - koffee, zigjaz

4/28

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Trilt said:
I think it is worth waiting a day and reassessing. We're glitching and currently without Kailvan - one of the major characters of our story. Without that grounding for the story it's very possible the whole structure for affiliation is fluid rn (something that was mod warned as likely to happen in rules).

Plus we very pointedly don't have Mel's full affiliation. Doubt that's accidental.
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I think we're voting for someone today and I'd want that person to be a wolf vs not a wolf. Wolves operate in packs... I harrdly doubt that a wolf could have fluid affiliation as they know who the other wolves are.

Do you have a better suggestion?
 
WildZoo said:
Some thoughts from my time as a corpse:

Things I would like to know (this is based mostly on D2, so if you have already answered the question I am asking feel free to ignore, I will find it on reread):
How does @Lawper feel about capri now? And genny?

Woah, @dolphin106258 voting for AM is a pretty big deal. How strongly is she feeling about that one?

@mizchiefmanaged - what stood out about jboo compared to the other no or low posters?

Still want @Matthew9Thirtyfive explanation for that eyeroll. And why he decided to vote for stagg (on d2)... Why did he assume people were saying mel was village?

@StayingPositive2017 Did you ever explain the justification behind all the people you were telling us not to lynch?

@CoffeeQuestionMark - why mpm (remember I'm referring to d2)? she explained why not the other leaders, but not why mpm

@muttmanager - what's up with the last minute dolphin to skim switch?

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And some more comments...
Jesus christ did anyone give justification for any of their votes?

The doggo lynch was very groce and I can't figure out why it even existed

"Not digging the leaders": genny, kcough (probably others i got bored)


I feel like it was a total coincidence that a non-villager was lynched tbh. I'm super uncomfortable with how some of the movement there happened. Makes me feel uneasy about the other leaders. I feel like there was someone else on the board that people were trying to save. mpm is obvious because of the blocking claim, whether she's wolf or village i could see villagers moving away from there because of the claim.

But the doggo vote came out of absolutely nowhere with no justification. I need to examine it some more but I feel squicky about coffee and em's votes in particular at the moment. Mutts' vote switch was weird too

Miz's comments about stagg are also rubbing me the wrong way. All he did prior to lynch close was say he was catching up (ok, anyone would be, wolf or village), complain about not being tagged, and self prez. Doesn't mean he's wolf or village, but miz is taking a lot more from that than what was actually there. Sketchy. I know this has already been mentioned, will look for miz's response.

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A couple D3 comments but I'll have more once I reread and make a tracker:

Pip and I were having similar thoughts re: coffee at some point but then I think coffee made a post that I actually was....ok with.



I don't agree completely with SAR's read list from yesterday but I like it


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And all the group vouching is going to start getting on my nerves. Remember people: be very careful with how you phrase your vouches. Don't act like you know more about someone's affiliation than you do. If you have a feeling that they're ok but you can't prove it with mod provided info...make that clear. You don't necessarily need to make it clear when you do have mod provided info unless the person you're protecting is about to be lynched. If we can stick to those guidelines I maybe won't find myself itching to ignore any and all vouches 😛
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I noted mpm was sheepish earlier in the day so she was a better choice to me than the others.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I think we're voting for someone today and I'd want that person to be a wolf vs not a wolf. Wolves operate in packs... I harrdly doubt that a wolf could have fluid affiliation as they know who the other wolves are.

Do you have a better suggestion?
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I was referring to worrying too much about the weird colour changing in affiliations.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
In this game, a role name is more powerful than you are used to.
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Is there a reason you've decided to reveal this so early? Because I would have preferred to see natural lynch progression rather than providing an easy wagon for everyone to jump on without discussion.
 
@StayingPositive2017 Gotcha on the strong vouch, I think the other post I was talking about was this one
StayingPositive2017 said:
Disagree totally as of now lol
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Which was in response to kcough's reads, and I was confused at the time that on d2 you felt strongly enough about 3 or 4 people to disagree entirely with her reads list, but didn't explain why
 
Considering I was approached by a different dark presence last night I’m completely comfortable running with something with dark in the name at the moment.
 
WildZoo said:
Is there a reason you've decided to reveal this so early? Because I would have preferred to see natural lynch progression rather than providing an easy wagon for everyone to jump on without discussion.
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That's great but I'm leaving for work soon and thus don't have time to come up with vague reasons I'm lynching her.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Many results come back with "dark" in the message... dark wizard, dark presence.

I'm willing to bet Dark Shuffle is not a coincidence.
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Keke was referred to as a dark wizard. Do you think he is an antagonistic character?
(have not read the last two writeups fully so keep that in mind)

Now I'm getting confused on whether you are sure role names mean something or if it is conjecture.
 
WildZoo said:
@StayingPositive2017 Gotcha on the strong vouch, I think the other post I was talking about was this one

Which was in response to kcough's reads, and I was confused at the time that on d2 you felt strongly enough about 3 or 4 people to disagree entirely with her reads list, but didn't explain why
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I was actually disagreeing with her not liking the leaders. I strongly felt like mpm or Ziggy were a good lunch, and I'm not sure about stagg. It should have been more specific
 
Unrelated to the current discussion but there were items mentioned in the opening post and I haven't seen them being discussed on thread.. One of those things I like to keep track of so if people have item info (obvs not for ones you are currently holding), speak up! I kind of assumed the items I was giving out were not the only ones in the game.

As mentioned in my death writeup...I'm actually not sure what happened to the items I was holding when I died, and I don't know how they functioned.
 
WildZoo said:
Unrelated to the current discussion but there were items mentioned in the opening post and I haven't seen them being discussed on thread.. One of those things I like to keep track of so if people have item info (obvs not for ones you are currently holding), speak up! I kind of assumed the items I was giving out were not the only ones in the game.

As mentioned in my death writeup...I'm actually not sure what happened to the items I was holding when I died, and I don't know how they functioned.
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If you know who Keke and Arie are...they both got items yesterday per the lynch write-up. While I agree information sharing is helpful, because some item information has been publicly shared I think some people need to be really cautious, since the rules state that there could be negative consequences for revealing your role. Could be positive too, however.
 
allieh8607 said:
If you know who Keke and Arie are...they both got items yesterday per the lynch write-up. While I agree information sharing is helpful, because some item information has been publicly shared I think some people need to be really cautious, since the rules state that there could be negative consequences for revealing your role. Could be positive too, however.
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Oh ok. I haven't read that writeup yet so didn't realize that was being publicized.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
If I think Keke is antagonistic? It doesn't sound like it. I guess it depends on how the dark wizard uses their knowledge. Sounds like an ability seer to me.
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I guess I'm just confused about your interpretation of the word "dark" when we have a protagonist who was called a dark wizard
 
WildZoo said:
Some thoughts
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There was a vouch for Dolphin and I wanted my vote to reflect who I thought was most wolfy at the moment

@CoffeeQuestionMark while I recognize your stance on the word dark, with the shades of gray in this game and life, I do not fully believe dark in a name explicitly implies they are evil.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I think we're voting for someone today and I'd want that person to be a wolf vs not a wolf. Wolves operate in packs... I harrdly doubt that a wolf could have fluid affiliation as they know who the other wolves are.

Do you have a better suggestion?
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I am not ready to accept the usual pack arrangement, the mod in the opening message alluded to the possibility of a way wolves could unwolf. The only way that works is they don’t know each other or they are silenced.

Also I know there is a primary antagonist and primary protagonist from my role description, so I could see an arrangement where the minors funnel info and abilities up to the primary perhaps without their knowing it (seen this in game design as well).

This seems a fairly divergent game design to me. I assume nothing till I know for sure.

Still, would greatly prefer to get the primary antagonist, though I doubt they are that easy to kill.
 
I'm probably also having a hard time because I was reading SAR village

Couple more questions for some people
@muttmanager Feelings on Paws, cubs, and zig?
@CoffeeQuestionMark feelings on zig, matty ice, and stagg?
@Animal Midwife Feelings on capri, dolphin, and trilt?
@StayingPositive2017 Feelings on mutts, capri, and grebes?
 
StayingPositive2017 said:
I was actually disagreeing with her not liking the leaders. I strongly felt like mpm or Ziggy were a good lunch, and I'm not sure about stagg. It should have been more specific
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How do you feel about ziggy and stagg now? (in addition to the other reads I asked for...I am very demanding right now 😛 )
 
Btw,,,,whoever rezzed WZ should speak up. I believe strongly this is a one time ability, and in a game like this, I have no reason to believe it is necessarily villager either. So your silence implicates WZ. If it is multiple and you remain silent, hopefully someone will check WZ out.
 
For now lunch emlady

She’s got five excuses for busy to post, but says nothing else. She should have landed by now.
If you have enough time to say you are busy, you have enough time to say something. I have been in the air Flying or asleep mostly since game started and I managed more input. Being busy is not wolfy for the record, but her method of us8ng it for cover sounds like a wolf looking to skirt by and using life as an excuse......I method I employed many times in past.
 
This WZ affiliation thing is bugging me, why bring back WZ? Yeah she is an active player, and there is some (insert crocodile tears here) sympathy being first killed, it usually you would want to Rez a power role.

Wolf rezzzing her seems a good idea, as she hardly gets lynched, especially early. Or anywhere near lynching her yet, but I want more info...if not I want her investigated.
 
StartingoverVet said:
For now lunch emlady

She’s got five excuses for busy to post, but says nothing else. She should have landed by now.
If you have enough time to say you are busy, you have enough time to say something. I have been in the air Flying or asleep mostly since game started and I managed more input. Being busy is not wolfy for the record, but her method of us8ng it for cover sounds like a wolf looking to skirt by and using life as an excuse......I method I employed many times in past.
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Also ok with this lynch, but based off of the night actions that have been used on me I’m more interested in going after the role with dark in the name today. Could the mod be messing with us with? Absolutely. But I’m ok with taking this at face value today :shrug:
 
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