WW: -Omitted Topic-: Game Thread

[Trilt]

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Keke does not have dark in his name.

Jesus christ are we seriously still discussing this.

The argument is that "dark blahdiblah" may or may not have been a baddie because we have a main character who is repeatedly referred to as a dark wizard. Even though recently the mod has dropped the classic black mage term, that was not evident from the getgo and requires people to understand context.

I get you're annoyed people didn't immediately get in line to lynch when you dropped the juicy info, but stop acting like it's unreasonable to question a lynch based on a word literally also referring to a main character. Ugh.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Jesus christ coffee. We've been over this, the early writeups specifically referred to him as a dark wizard. If you can't see how that caused confusion then just go ahead and lynch every single one of us that brought that up as a concern.

Tell me why you're trying to pick apart my argument here and not any others from what I can tell? Cause last time you did this in Pokémon you were a wolf

 

[Trilt]

Guys i think we may be tired of the "dark" discussion. 🤣

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Jfc I can’t win here

So are you just not going to explain at all then?? I want to know why you were somehow convinced that SAR couldn't be lynched and then just dropped it.

 

[Stagg737]

A dark wizard is a category. Distinctly different. You would not name your child Dark Shuffle and expect them to become a pediatrician would you?

And in Smash there was a villager with the role name "wolf" and a wolf with the role name "villager". Come on Coffee, you should understand why this was bad logic.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Guys i think we may be tired of the "dark" discussion. 🤣

Like though honestly, I was right yeah? Of course the wolves are going to argue it's dumb because they don't want her lynched. So yeah that is going to be an argument against people now.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

@CoffeeQuestionMark if you weren't voting for Stagg, who would you be?

@Dinashadow I am waiting

 

[jaboo]

So are you just not going to explain at all then?? I want to know why you were somehow convinced that SAR couldn't be lynched and then just dropped it.

Because I didn’t realize (again, bc I’m a dummy) that the information I had might no longer be true or be true at a later time. The mechanics are really wonky and unlike anything I’ve ever played before.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

And in Smash there was a villager with the role name "wolf" and a wolf with the role name "villager". Come on Coffee, you should understand why this was bad logic.

Those are pre-designed characters. This is a game following a story with a mod who is very upfront and provides clarity for strategizing

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@CoffeeQuestionMark if you weren't voting for Stagg, who would you be?

@Dinashadow I am waiting

I want to vote Stagg til he is dead

 

[Trilt]

Like though honestly, I was right yeah? Of course the wolves are going to argue it's dumb because they don't want her lynched. So yeah that is going to be an argument against people now.

This is classic WIFOM material. Wolves are going to know that she is sketchy and know that she got seered and they can argue against it OR argue for her lynch depending on what sort of play style they prefer. I don't think it's 100% either way.

I ALSO don't think analyzing, thinking and discussing information is sketchy. I think not doing so is lame play which is why I'm hard eyeballing people I think of as good players just jumping on this SAR relynch.

 

[Animal Midwife]

D5 Unofficial Lynch Tally

sar (8) - sov, paws, m#, lamps, grebes, jboo, kc, Skim
Paws () -
genny () -
jboo (1) - AM
Skim (2) - trilt, pips
barks (2) - zigjazzy, dolph
capri (1) - dubz
Stagg (1) - Coffee?
allie (2) - miz, TG

17/29

Deadline 10pm est (~3 hours)

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

This is classic WIFOM material. Wolves are going to know that she is sketchy and know that she got seered and they can argue against it OR argue for her lynch depending on what sort of play style they prefer. I don't think it's 100% either way.

I ALSO don't think analyzing, thinking and discussing information is sketchy. I think not doing so is lame play which is why I'm hard eyeballing people I think of as good players just jumping on this SAR relynch.

Except the majority of votes on her were from allies

 

[PippyPony]

Watching ya'll waste another lynch is so exciting.

Where are the gifs at? If you are going to troll people, at least have the decency to do it in style

 

[Barkley13]

@Barkley13 , why do you think Miz is a wolf? I'd like full reasoning.

The day that doggo was lynched, Miz originally voted for doggo and then switched to cubs when she realized she mixed them up and had nothing against doggo, then voted jboo, then jumped on the MPM lynch so her "vote would count", then jumped on the doggo bandwagon for no reason. I also thought it was sketchy that she kept insisting that you were looking for other alternatives to lynch that day just because you said you were catching up on thread. Then, after Dina mentioned being attacked at night she started asking her if she was in a pack/if anyone in her pack had left which felt like fishing to me, and her explanation was that it was to see in the attacker was in Dina's pack which doesn't make sense because the rules say that if the attacks from someone in the pack always go through.
I also didn't like the insistence that dark = evil yesterday and the belief that many/possibly all of the dark figures are antagonistic. It was right in SAR's case but that is not proof that it is right in every case and she has been trying to get credit for pushing that lynch.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unlynch jboo
Lynch capri

 

[PippyPony]

Cheezit, if you got brought back as a woof, imma be pissed

Unlynch Skim

Although if that's just based on your read, then I don't know how much I should be relying on it. And before you @ me -- no, I am not asking, I am just thinking out loud.

 

[PippyPony]

Unlynch jboo
Lynch capri

I could potentially get on board with this because I'm having trouble reading through the post restriction, but I'm curious what your reasoning is here

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I want to vote Stagg til he is dead

Imagine he is dead. what next?

Except the majority of votes on her were from allies

Is this a complete sentence?

Unlynch jboo
Lynch capri

Why?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Imagine he is dead. what next?

Is this a complete sentence?

Why?

When he flips wolf I lynch WZ

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

When he flips wolf I lynch WZ

Are you as sure about stagg as you were about SAR?
edit and why wz?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I could potentially get on board with this because I'm having trouble reading through the post restriction, but I'm curious what your reasoning is here

It mainly because I have next-to-nothing on her and the VCA isn't impressive.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Are you as sure about stagg as you were about SAR?
edit and why wz?

No.

WZ based on historical patterns if Stagg is wolf those are two early wolf defenses

 

[Animal Midwife]

When he flips wolf I lynch WZ

I said no convert hunting.

 

[PippyPony]

Lynch stagg

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I said no convert hunting.

I think the other wolves are not in play yet

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think the other wolves are not in play yet

If so, I'd imagine they'll be in play by the time we lynch the last available wolf.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

If so, I'd imagine they'll be in play by the time we lynch the last available wolf.

I don't know who I would pick from those unavailable. Lawper is the only one I have felt iffy about. I don't know what to make of Coop's plays but neutral there

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

It mainly because I have next-to-nothing on her and the VCA isn't impressive.

Why not allie, who had one more vote than capri and who you said you also saw as neutral to negative?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why not allie, who had one more vote than capri and who you said you also saw as neutral to negative?

Because I chose capri.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Because I chose capri.

Why? How do you feel about stagg?


unlynch barks Lynch stagg

 

[WildZoo]

Tell me why you're trying to pick apart my argument here and not any others from what I can tell? Cause last time you did this in Pokémon you were a wolf

Because you're getting on my nerves with your attitude and the way you are presenting information/arguments. Remember the time I did it before Pokemon? It was Colorado. The shade is noted though.

Guys i think we may be tired of the "dark" discussion. 🤣

No **** lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why? How do you feel about stagg?


unlynch barks Lynch stagg

I listed why in a few posts above. I'm back to feeling neutral on Stagg.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I listed why in a few posts above. I'm back to feeling neutral on Stagg.

I saw. I meant why did you choose Capri over allie?
edit and what do you mean by back to feeling neutral

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Because you're getting on my nerves with your attitude and the way you are presenting information/arguments. Remember the time I did it before Pokemon? It was Colorado. The shade is noted though.


No **** lol

That's great but I'm tired of being dismissed. I literally have nothing other than what I have and expecting me to show anything other than that when no one else has anything either isn't fair.

And it turned up a wolf last time. So.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I saw. I meant why did you chose Capri over allie?
edit and what do you mean by back to feeling neutral

That was also answered a few post above. Stagg was slightly village for a while but I need more from him again.

 

[Trilt]

That's great but I'm tired of being dismissed. I literally have nothing other than what I have and expecting me to show anything other than that when no one else has anything either isn't fair.

And it turned up a wolf last time. So.

Discussion =/= dismissed.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Discussion =/= dismissed.

No. She literally said meh to my arguments. There is no receptive intention. It is PRESENTED as discussion when it isn't.

 

[genny]

How are everone’s feels on allieh?

I feel fine about allie. She hasn't tried to kill anyone.

 

[PippyPony]

I feel fine about allie. She hasn't tried to kill anyone.

Lol wat?

 

[Stagg737]

Lynch stagg

Why? You never answered me when you voted for me before.

 

[WildZoo]

No. She literally said meh to my arguments. There is no receptive intention. It is PRESENTED as discussion when it isn't.

I said meh to your one word "defensive." I discussed the rest and asked what I think were valid questions. If I was going to dismiss your thoughts I wouldn't have wasted the thumb energy to type a response.

 

[Melchizedek]

I would like an explanation to this because I disagree. I still do not see how d2 voting makes him look good at all.

So looking at the end of the day, I'd agree with you. SAR voted away from Stagg after the MPM reveal. But there's more to the picture that day.
Notice when SAR initially voted. Stagg and I were neck and neck for a little bit early that day and SAR voted for MPM who only had one vote (AM). This feels to me like wolf who started to see wagons forming and just didn't care whether or not she was on them (either for bussing purposes or for saving purposes). That kind of apathetic response makes me doubt she cared if Stagg got lynched, and at the end of the day, just wanted to blend in with all the people jumping ship from MPM to doggo to make her waffling harder to analyze.

O...k? I wasn't talking about doggo, she wasn't a wolf. I was talking about SAR specifically, and whether or not votes for her on a day when she wasn't lynched mean anything. Grebes voted early so that I would give more weight than your end of the day vote. Don't really care if you mentioned SAR, mentioning her means nothing, as you very well know. You can give yourself all the credit you like but I'm not seeing why you think anyone else should, and I have no idea why this is coming up in response to a post that was 0% about you.

I think she just wants acknowledgement that her gut was right, not village cred.

Seriously? This makes me want to Lynch you more.

I am not convinced on Miz or skimble being all friendly either

what if I told you.....I have all three as village?

So those are reads based on your pack, nothing else?

I will second those pack reads.

Like though honestly, I was right yeah? Of course the wolves are going to argue it's dumb because they don't want her lynched. So yeah that is going to be an argument against people now.

For the record, I was also arguing it was not a good reason to lynch SAR.

 

[Stagg737]

Why? How do you feel about stagg?


unlynch barks Lynch stagg

Why?

 

[WildZoo]

No.

WZ based on historical patterns if Stagg is wolf those are two early wolf defenses

Shaking in my boots over here

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I feel fine about allie. She hasn't tried to kill anyone.

Omg this game 🤣

Is anyone trying to kill anyone? Or are we just getting attacked, burned, stabbed then brought back, in a dark chasm then returned, etc?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Omg this game 🤣

Is anyone trying to kill anyone? Or are we just getting attacked, burned, stabbed then brought back, in a dark chasm then returned, etc?

I for one am poisoned and destined to die within 3 night cycles

 

[PippyPony]

Why? You never answered me when you voted for me before.

Because you didn't know who to vote for or why, until people questioned you about it.

 

[genny]

I for one am poisoned and destined to die within 3 night cycles

That's unfortunate. When did you find that out?

 

[muttmanager]

Everyone I want to vote has a “vouch” (Miz mainly) & the SAR sequel is boring