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[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

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I'm not super feeling jboo so again not knowing if this is part of some weird WIFOM.

Yeah I’m wondering how jboo knows this. Leaving my vote on sar for now.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@CoffeeQuestionMark (spelled tag wrong)

I trust genny.

 

[jaboo]

Yeah I’m wondering how jboo knows this. Leaving my vote on sar for now.

I’m rolling my eyes so hard at you right now

 

[jaboo]

Unless there is an item that the wolves had for a lynch avoidance, SAR is our alpha wolf.

 

[jaboo]

And before someone asks, yes I’m sure.

 

[JustPaws]

Unless there is an item that the wolves had for a lynch avoidance, SAR is our alpha wolf.

Seems like a really easy wolf claim, but ok

 

[Animal Midwife]

D5 Unofficial Lynch Tally

sar (5) - sov, paws, m#, lamps, grebes
Paws () -
genny (1) - Mel
jboo (1) - AM
Skim (3) - trilt, miz, pips
barks (2) - zigjazzy, dolph
capri (1) - dubz
Stagg (1) - Coffee?

14/29

Deadline 10pm est (~5.5 hours)

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

And before someone asks, yes I’m sure.

Who are you thinking about voting for?

Seems like a really easy wolf claim, but ok

You're making this trust thing difficult

 

[genny]

Unless there is an item that the wolves had for a lynch avoidance, SAR is our alpha wolf.

Ok, but items like that exist.

 

[jaboo]

Ok, but items like that exist.

Do you know that for a fact?

 

[JustPaws]

You're making this trust thing difficult

😕 because I'm not trusting jboo or because you are having trouble trusting me?

 

[WildZoo]

Wouldst thou be willing to share to whom the letter was intended? It shall not affect my opinion of you if you choose to remain silent.

Missed this yesterday. It was meant to go to you, actually.

 

[genny]

Do you know that for a fact?

I am aware of one item that allowed for a death avoidance. I am hypothesizing that there could be other similar things.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

😕 because I'm not trusting jboo or because you are having trouble trusting me?

I am having difficulty trusting virtually everyone, but particularly you 😛

Missed this yesterday. It was meant to go to you, actually.

So you tried sending a letter to Mel n1 that emmy got instead? and capri n2 but you died?

 

[WildZoo]

So you tried sending a letter to Mel n1 that emmy got instead? and capri n2 but you died?

My impression was Mel still got the letter but em overheard its contents or some such. Otherwise yes.

 

[grebes4lyfe]

tbf, I'm strongly against this rule because:
a. it rarely works
b. whether it does or doesn't work, provides no additional info

i disagree. i think it provides decent info by letting us read more into others interactions with her. my reads on people will be impacted by whether or not SAR is an alpha. i'd like to know.

But lynching me again is so fun!

now im in a whole WIFOM circle.
is SAR saying this to get us to lynch her because she's alpha? is she saying this BECAUSE she knows that it will make us think she's alpha and NOT lynch her???
staying with my current vote because i want to know

I will have to think on this more. But her saying her name was forced out of her contradicted what someone else said about how that was phrased to them. It made it seem like she was embellishing her results from the mod to intentionally shade them.


We have been through this. Up until 10 minutes left, SAR WOULD have been able to get lynched. Do you just suppose we somehow brought Mel back in order to not get SAR lynched? 😕

i definitely missed the first part in my attempt to skim 20 pages.
i remember seeing you make this 2nd argument in my skim, but i missed where this is a sure thing. i mean, i get that you are ASSUMING that SAR would have been able to be lynched due to the glitch, and that now that the glitch is fixed, she is the alpha, but i didn't see this in any more concrete terms than your assumptions. and because of that, it doesn't change my tin-foily argument that, if she is the alpha wolf, you two could be bussing her.
what could or would have happened due to the glitch is irrelevant at this point. you couldn't have known what would happen then, and it doesn't matter now since it's over.

Unless there is an item that the wolves had for a lynch avoidance, SAR is our alpha wolf.

your alpha wolf? like, for your wolf pack? 😱

 

[Animal Midwife]

i disagree. i think it provides decent info by letting us read more into others interactions with her. my reads on people will be impacted by whether or not SAR is an alpha. i'd like to know.

What info would we gain that we didn't already get yesterday?

 

[grebes4lyfe]

What info would we gain that we didn't already get yesterday?

yesterday didn't confirm that she was an alpha... just that she avoided lynch. her avoiding lynch a second time would make it almost certain that she was alpha (i mean, yes there is some possibility of a protection item being used for a 2nd lynch avoidance or whatever, but the likelihood of that is pretty low IMO). this is new information. right now we are only speculating that she's an alpha. i want proof.

 

[Trilt]

disagree. i think it provides decent info by letting us read more into others interactions with her. my reads on people will be impacted by whether or not SAR is an alpha. i'd like to know.

SAR not dying if lynched today would not guarantee she is an alpha. Could have immunity until a certain point in the game. Could have immunity unless a certain player votes for her. Could have two lynch avoidances (which I really ****ing hate so hopefully not). Could have an item. Etc. Etc.

 

[Stagg737]

@Barkley13 , why do you think Miz is a wolf? I'd like full reasoning.

 

[grebes4lyfe]

SAR not dying if lynched today would not guarantee she is an alpha. Could have immunity until a certain point in the game. Could have immunity unless a certain player votes for her. Could have two lynch avoidances (which I really ****ing hate so hopefully not). Could have an item. Etc. Etc.

that's true. i forgot about the royalty caveat.
and like i said above in response to AM, a 2nd lynch avoidance still wouldn't mean 100% that she was an alpha, but it would at least indicate that its probably not worth wasting any more time on her at this point. i dont think that 1 lynch avoidance is enough to make me move off of her yet though.

 

[WildZoo]

So of the people we're able to vote for today, I have wolfy points for Coffee, Em, Allie, Genny, Mel, and Skim with that list being in approximate order of most sketchy to least sketchy. MPM is still on my radar, but willing to leave that alone for now.

Lynch coffee

Her participation feels different than I'm used to. Normally within a few posts I can be like "Yep, that's village Coffee." and I'm just not getting that same feeling so far this game.

Someone probably pointed this out already but dollars to donuts there's at least one wolf on this list. Obviously not cheezit or covfefe.

 

[ThoracicGuy]

Someone probably pointed this out already but dollars to donuts there's at least one wolf on this list. Obviously not cheezit or covfefe.

So given the list, who would you have as a wolf?

 

[WildZoo]

So given the list, who would you have as a wolf?

You subbed in for em, right? 😉

I could also see Allie. Genny is currently in my village pile and I rarely read skim correctly so I leave that to others.

 

[Skimble]

@Barkley13 , why do you think Miz is a wolf? I'd like full reasoning.

I know you didn’t ask me, but miz is not a wolf.

 

[Lawpy]

I know you didn’t ask me, but miz is not a wolf.

How do you feel about barky?

 

[jaboo]

Seems like a really easy wolf claim, but ok

your alpha wolf? like, for your wolf pack? 😱

What kind of crack are you two smoking?

 

[Skimble]

How do you feel about barky?

I’m not sure, though others that I think are village seem to think she’s village too. I just wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of our reveried people is an antagonist (would really suck if they both were).

 

[Lawpy]

I will have to think on this more. But her saying her name was forced out of her contradicted what someone else said about how that was phrased to them. It made it seem like she was embellishing her results from the mod to intentionally shade them.


We have been through this. Up until 10 minutes left, SAR WOULD have been able to get lynched. Do you just suppose we somehow brought Mel back in order to not get SAR lynched? 😕

@genny @Dinashadow @mizchiefmanaged is this what the attack you referenced did also or no?


What do you think about this @StartingoverVet @StayingPositive2017 @Matthew9Thirtyfive @Lawper ?

I asked a question to the mod in PM and he answered in a way that made me consider it wasn't possible. I likely just misinterpreted/overinterpreted what he said and phrased it on thread in a poor way

Imo, no. I was paired up with her as a PM buddy in family tree, even after someone swapped us we still RNGd back together. She virtually never responded to me and I was suspicious of her the entire game.

I'm indifferent about jboozy's comments but sardines's response concerned me so i'm currently thinking and reassessing.

 

[ThoracicGuy]

You subbed in for em, right? 😉

I could also see Allie. Genny is currently in my village pile and I rarely read skim correctly so I leave that to others.

Well I know I'm not a wolf, so I guess that narrows it down for you.

 

[WildZoo]

Well I know I'm not a wolf, so I guess that narrows it down for you.

Well I don't know you're not a wolf, silly

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

How are everone’s feels on allieh?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I’m not sure, though others that I think are village seem to think she’s village too. I just wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of our reveried people is an antagonist (would really suck if they both were).

pippy (10) - pippy, capri, sar, mpm, miz, paws, emmy, kcough, jboo, lawpy
barks (10) - cubs, barks, dina, matty, doggo, MsP, dolphin, sov, trilt, koffee

What seems kinda weird to me is that 5 of the people voting for barks on d1 did not start out the game. Additionally, cubs and MsP can't talk. And cubs started the voting but now can't say anything.

I'm indifferent about jboozy's comments but sardines's response concerned me so i'm currently thinking and reassessing.

So you're not listening to jboo but you're listening to an outted antagonist? 😕

How are everone’s feels on allieh?

So neutral it's bordering on bad.

 

[Melchizedek]

Unlynch Genny
My tunnel was so cozy.

based on tone read and how the votes accumulated on D2, I don't think Stagg is a wolf

@Trilt @mizchiefmanaged @PippyPony I'm fairly certain skim is not a wolf. I have confidence I can read her, and this isn't it. If you have specific things you found wolfy then I'm up to entertaining a discussion about them, because as it stands it feels like the three of you are there because of feels?

Barks has some super hedgy posts and ISO'ing her made me feel like I was reading Snowy but she did have 1 very village post. I could vote here, but I'd need to hear what exactly other people are seeing

I reaaaaalllly wanted to vote Capri, but the way she pushed Stagg and kept asking him for reads to nail down his early opinions just felt too village to fake.

Someone probably pointed this out already but dollars to donuts there's at least one wolf on this list. Obviously not cheezit or covfefe.

If I'm believing genny's attacked claim (and for the moment I am) then my doughnuts are on Em or Allieh

Working on ISO'ing other people. Will be back with more substantive stuff later.

 

[ThoracicGuy]

Well I don't know you're not a wolf, silly

Now you know!

 

[Navilly]

WARNING TO THOSE CURRENTLY OUT OF THE GAME: We are fast approaching ACT 2. If your condition of entering the game is ACT 2, be sure to stay on the lookout regarding entering the game within the next couple to few days.

 

[Animal Midwife]

How are everone’s feels on allieh?

Extremely neutral/borderline wolfy.

 

[WildZoo]

Now you know!

*checks list*
Nope sorry, you're still on the wolfy side 😛

 

[ThoracicGuy]

*checks list*
Nope sorry, you're still on the wolfy side 😛

Nah, I'm only on the side of good.

 

[KCgophervet]

Also curious to know more thoughts from @kcoughli

Initially felt Pawsy was okay but i'm getting concerned especially with coffee's thoughts on her.

Hi I have thoughts... as well as a 12 week old infant (OMG IRL EXCUSES) so I've been playing per allie "by the seat of my pants" this game. To be fair though, it seems to be working out better than my usual village play since my first vote was for a minor antagonist (assuming that's still legit) and my second/third was for a definite wolf. Think I'm going to continue trusting my gut and not worrying too much about finding logical reasons to lynch people 😛

Still feel weird about M#, had earlier squiggles about a post or two from Dina, and I feel like everyone else and their grandmother have had someone coming on saying "don't vote for them!" so that's where I'm at.

So @kcoughli and I wolfed with her in Lurking and I tried to bus her from D1. @Skimble was also a convert wolf, but didn't join the pack until after SAR died (her death was the conversion mechanism). Iirc she did defend my claims but was kind of dismissive with how she did it. I remember that me and KC were shocked at how long it took for her to actually get lynched and the running joke in wolf chat was "Why is SAR still alive?"

I remember this fondly... 😛

*shrug*
Plenty of wolves vote for fellow wolves before they're outted, especially if they aren't in real danger of the lynch going through. Will consider it though since I can't vote for her today anyway.

Like I see where you're coming from with this but damnit I want props for my random feelz picking up a wolf D1 (talking about SAR since we're still not really sure what the yellow is all about). And also I had no idea the Doggo lynch D1 would take off like it did so there's really no "no real danger of a lynch going through"

tbf, I'm strongly against this rule because:
a. it rarely works
b. whether it does or doesn't work, provides no additional info

But like, it could kill a wolf and will have to happen eventually anyway? Also reduces chances of a mislynch substantially...

I’m not caught up but I’m going to say this louder for the people in the back.

DO NOT LYNCH SAR, SHE DID NOT HAVE A LYNCH AVOIDANCE.

Say what now? Is this known fact or conjecture based on other mechanics?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

*****unlynch skimble, lynch allieh*****

 

[Lawpy]

pippy (10) - pippy, capri, sar, mpm, miz, paws, emmy, kcough, jboo, lawpy
barks (10) - cubs, barks, dina, matty, doggo, MsP, dolphin, sov, trilt, koffee

What seems kinda weird to me is that 5 of the people voting for barks on d1 did not start out the game. Additionally, cubs and MsP can't talk. And cubs started the voting but now can't say anything.


So you're not listening to jboo but you're listening to an outted antagonist? 😕


So neutral it's bordering on bad.

Its more like Sardines was trying to encourage the opposite of what jboozy was suggesting which is setting up a WIFOM trap. That is making me think whether lynching Sardines is a good idea and whether jboozy is being accurate.

 

[Animal Midwife]

But like, it could kill a wolf and will have to happen eventually anyway? Also reduces chances of a mislynch substantially...

Or it could not kill a wolf and burn time, bringing us a half cycle closer to *ylo without any additional information. An easier way to reduce the chance of mislynch is through thorough analysis.

 

[WildZoo]

Spoiler: Day 2

dubz (1) - Mel
mpm (1) - AM
Stagg (1) - dubz
Mel (1) - Skim
miz (1) - M935
Mel (2) - Skim, ziggy
Mel (1) - Skim
Stagg (2) - dubz, ziggy
miz () -
Mel (2) - Skim, M935
Doggo (1) - miz
Skim (1) - Pippy
dolphin (1) - genny
Doggo () -
dubz () -
capri (1) - Lawpy
ziggy (1) - grebes
AM (1) - dolphin
Stagg (3) - dubz, ziggy, Barks
mpm (2) - AM, SAR
Mel (3) - Skim, M935, mpm
ziggy (2) - grebes, Paws
Skim (2) - Pippy, Trilt
genny (1) - Mel
Mel (4) - Skim, M935, mpm, SOV
capri () -
ziggy (3) - grebes, Paws, Lawpy
jboo (1) - miz
Mel (3) - Skim, M935, SOV
ziggy (4) - grebes, Paws, Lawpy, Doggo
Mel (2) - Skim, SOV
Stagg (4) - dubz, ziggy, Barks, M935
dolphin (2) - genny, mutts
mpm (3) - AM, SAR, jboo
mpm (4) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?
Stagg (5) - dubz, ziggy, Barks, M935, capri
ziggy (3) - grebes, Paws, Doggo
mpm (5) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy
jboo (2) - miz, Jahboi
Stagg (6) - dubz, ziggy, Barks, M935, capri, mpm
mpm (6) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg
jboo (1) - Jahboi
mpm (7) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg, kc
mpm (8) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg, kc, miz
mpm (7) - AM, SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg, miz
Doggo (1) - kc
mpm (6) - SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg, miz
Coffee? (1) - AM
Stagg (5) - dubz, ziggy, Barks, capri, mpm
Mel (3) - Skim, SOV, M935
mpm (5) - SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Lawpy, Stagg
mpm (4) - SAR, jboo, Coffee?, Stagg
genny (2) - Mel, Lawpy
Doggo (2) - kc, Dina
genny (1) - Mel
Doggo (3) - kc, Dina, Lawpy
mpm (3) - SAR, Coffee?, Stagg
Mel (4) - Skim, SOV, M935, jboo
mpm (2) - Coffee?, Stagg
Doggo (4) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR
dolphin (1) - genny
Skim (3) - Pippy, Trilt, mutts
mpm (1) - Coffee?
ziggy (4) - grebes, Paws, Doggo, Stagg
Doggo (5) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR, emmy
jboo (2) - Jahboi, allie
mpm () -
Stagg (6) - dubz, ziggy, Barks, capri, mpm, Coffee?
Stagg (5) - dubz, Barks, capri, mpm, Coffee?
Doggo (6) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR, emmy, ziggy
Stagg (6) - dubz, Barks, capri, mpm, Coffee?, Doggo
Doggo (7) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR, emmy, ziggy, miz
Stagg (4) - dubz, Barks, capri, mpm
Doggo (8) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR, emmy, ziggy, miz, Coffee?
ziggy (3) - grebes, Paws, Doggo
Doggo (9) - kc, Dina, Lawpy, SAR, emmy, ziggy, miz, Coffee?

Spoiler: Day 3

Coffee? (1) - genny
Stagg (1) - ziggy
miz (1) - Lawpy
Coffee? (2) - genny, Pippy
miz (2) - Lawpy, Barks
SAR (1) - grebes
genny (1) - Mel
Mel (1) - emmy
mpm (1) - miz
Coffee? (3) - genny, Pippy, AM
Coffee? (4) - genny, Pippy, AM, SAR
Mel () -
mpm (2) - miz, emmy
Coffee? (5) - genny, Pippy, AM, SAR, Stagg
Coffee? (4) - genny, Pippy, AM, SAR
mpm (3) - miz, emmy, Stagg
Barks (1) - dolphin
Stagg (2) - ziggy, Coffee?
Coffee? (3) - genny, AM, SAR
Stagg (3) - ziggy, Coffee?, Pippy
mpm (4) - miz, emmy, Stagg, MsP
mpm (3) - miz, emmy, MsP
Coffee? (4) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg
mpm (4) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts
Coffee? (5) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg, M935
mpm (5) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim
miz (1) - Barks
Coffee? (6) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg, M935, Lawpy
Stagg (2) - Coffee?, Pippy
AM (1) - ziggy
mpm (6) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV
mpm (7) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo
AM () -
genny (2) - Mel, ziggy
jboo (1) - Trilt
miz (2) - Barks, Paws
genny (1) - Mel
mpm (8) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy
mpm (9) - miz, emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy
miz (3) - Barks, Paws, Jahboi
ziggy (1) - allie
Coffee? (7) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg, M935, Lawpy, mpm
mpm (8) - emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy
SAR (2) - grebes, kc
Coffee? (6) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg, Lawpy, mpm
Coffee? (5) - genny, AM, SAR, Lawpy, mpm
mpm (9) - emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy, Stagg
genny () -
mpm (10) - emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy, Stagg, Mel
Coffee? (4) - genny, AM, SAR, mpm
mpm (11) - emmy, MsP, mutts, Skim, SOV, jboo, ziggy, Stagg, Mel, Lawpy

Spoiler: Day 4

Barks (1) - Paws
Barks (2) - Paws, Stagg
SAR (1) - Coffee?
SAR (2) - Coffee?, ziggy
SAR (3) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz
emmy (1) - SOV
SAR (4) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo
SAR (5) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc
ziggy (1) - capri
ziggy (2) - capri, Lawpy
ziggy (1) - capri
SAR (6) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, Lawpy
SAR (5) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc
miz (1) - mutts
jboo (1) - Trilt
Skim (1) - Pippy
emmy () -
SAR (6) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, SOV
jboo (2) - Trilt, AM
genny (1) - SAR
Barks (3) - Paws, Stagg, dolphin
miz (2) - mutts, Barks
SAR (7) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, SOV, Skim
SAR (8) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, SOV, Skim, allie
genny () -
Barks (4) - Paws, Stagg, dolphin, SAR
SAR (9) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, SOV, Skim, allie, Mel
capri (1) - genny
jboo (3) - Trilt, AM, Jahboi
Barks (3) - Paws, Stagg, dolphin
ziggy (2) - capri, SAR
SAR (10) - Coffee?, ziggy, miz, jboo, kc, SOV, Skim, allie, Mel, Dina

@kcoughli I think you mean day 3 and also SAR only had one other vote at the time you voted for her whereas mpm was approaching double digits so I have no idea why you think I should be giving you any credit for that

 

[WildZoo]

Also I am for the moment assuming wolves and minor antagonists are not associated with each other, so nobody gets credit for those either lol

 

[jaboo]

I’m not caught up but I’m going to say this louder for the people in the back.

DO NOT LYNCH SAR, SHE DID NOT HAVE A LYNCH AVOIDANCE.

K so upon further evaluation of the info I have, it may have been possible that SAR had a lynch avoidance. I was just a dumb ass and didn’t consider it. Now that my head is on straight

Lynch SAR

 

[WildZoo]

K so upon further evaluation of the info I have, it may have been possible that SAR had a lynch avoidance. I was just a dumb ass and didn’t consider it. Now that my head is on straight

Lynch SAR

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I'd like to see Stagg lynched

 

[JustPaws]

K so upon further evaluation of the info I have, it may have been possible that SAR had a lynch avoidance. I was just a dumb ass and didn’t consider it. Now that my head is on straight

Lynch SAR

Seriously? This makes me want to Lynch you more.

I am not convinced on Miz or skimble being all friendly either

 

[KCgophervet]

@kcoughli I think you mean day 3 and also SAR only had one other vote at the time you voted for her whereas mpm was approaching double digits so I have no idea why you think I should be giving you any credit for that

Add a day to all of my numbers I was thinking of the reverie vote as D0. And if you may recall Doggo had 0 votes when I voted for her D2 and she ended up lynched. I also mentioned Sardines that same day. The next day I voted for her and it could have just as easily taken off in the same way the doggo vote did the previous day.

But whatever, I'm giving myself credit for it even if you won't 😛