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Unofficial Lynch Tally:

Pippy (7) - PBC, Coopah, LIS, Lyra, Gwen, cheathac, zensing

PBC (0) -
cdo () -
3m () -
Gwen (1) - kata
cheat (6) - ny, WTF, cdoconn, hmoo, genny, pippy
hmoo (1) - STL
Coop (3) - AM, WZ, snowy
STL (0) -
genny (0) -
kata (1) – 3m

19/19
9pm has arrived. (I don't have the power to close so that's up to Trilt...I'm just tonight's lynch tallier)
 
All good things come to an end. Some even live their life representing the end of thoughts, end of feelings... but of course, always with the potential of starting a whole new idea.

This one has lost that chance, although... maybe there's still something for her to do?

Dead is @PippyPony, a period with no abilities.

It is now N1. Please submit all actions ASAP, or at least by 6AM EST tomorrow.

Roster:

1. @LetItSnow
2. @cheathac
3. @WildZoo
4. @genny
5. @LyraGardenia
6. @Zensing
7. @nyanko
8. @cdoconn
10. @Gwenevre
11. @Animal Midwife
12. @SnowshoeDog143
13. @Coopah
14. @katashark
15. @WhtsThFrequency
16. @PrincessButterCup
17. @mmmdreamerz
18. @hazelmoo
19. @SummerTheLynx
20. @DVMDream

Dead
9. @PippyPony - Period
 
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Then why didn't you tie it up and try to give her a chance, then?

If I'm being honest, I wasn't paying close enough attention or I might have...never sure how to feel about ties though. Pippy is always advocating against them lol
 
A dark night... without much to be said, truthfully. Were people just not reaching their potential, or purposefully holding back?

Guess it'll be determined later. For now, one was found wholly erased:

Dead is @cheathac, a period with no abilities.

It is now D2. Lynch will close at 9PM EST tomorrow (4/13/17).

Roster:

1. @LetItSnow
3. @WildZoo
4. @genny
5. @LyraGardenia
6. @Zensing
7. @nyanko
8. @cdoconn
10. @Gwenevre
11. @Animal Midwife
12. @SnowshoeDog143
13. @Coopah
14. @katashark
15. @WhtsThFrequency
16. @PrincessButterCup
17. @mmmdreamerz
18. @hazelmoo
19. @SummerTheLynx
20. @DVMDream

Dead
9. @PippyPony - Period
2. @cheathac - Period
 
And trilt though we wouldn't see her sneak in @DVMDream to the game :wave:

I want to start with zensing, genny, or hmoo. But to stick with my thoughts from yesterday:
********lynch hmoo************
 
Aww cheat just is doomed to die early in these games isn't she 🙁

*Also that was a quick night*
 
And trilt though we wouldn't see her sneak in @DVMDream to the game :wave:

I want to start with zensing, genny, or hmoo. But to stick with my thoughts from yesterday:
********lynch hmoo************

haha.. yet didn't she sneak you in too?

I'm good with any of those three. Also PBC and kata.
 
Hmmm, it's really weird that the wolves would kill the candidate who was second in the lead for lynch. Noob wolves? Non-noob wolves trying to make us think they're noobs?
STL,
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Really though, why would I agree to wolf kill the same person I voted for? -___-
 
Hmmm, it's really weird that the wolves would kill the candidate who was second in the lead for lynch. Noob wolves? Non-noob wolves trying to make us think they're noobs?
STL,
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Really though, why would I agree to wolf kill the same person I voted for? -___-
Because she implied she had a role, and y'all weren't successful In driving the lynch on her?
 
Because she implied she had a role, and y'all weren't successful In driving the lynch on her?
When did she say she had a role?! Any asshat can imply a role... that wouldn't mean anything to me even if I did read it. Plus, whadya know, she didn't have one (point proven). I wouldn't be dumb enough to kill the person I voted for. Jesus STL. And don't say "y'all", especially when you're starting to look more wolf.
 
When did she say she had a role?! Any asshat can imply a role... that wouldn't mean anything to me even if I did read it. Plus, whadya know, she didn't have one (point proven). I wouldn't be dumb enough to kill the person I voted for. Jesus STL. And don't say "y'all", especially when you're starting to look more wolf.
You are also buying into anther fallacy that one wolf controls what occurs. If we used that logic in the game I got converted recently, I could claim Nyanko would not have converted me in any normal circumstance and thus I could not be a wolf. It required you being there and active, and with your track record, I don't trust that you would have even been there to submit said night action.

Wolves kill people they vote for all the time. Just because you didn't see it, it was discussed on the thread quite heavily, to the point that t seemed like a noob mistake of her claiming a role by accident. (which also, bad on you protector wherever you are, for not saving that wolf kill, as that was an obvious protect)

If someone up for lunch claimed a role, and you were a wolf, why wouldn't you believe it? Just curious
 
Also would like to have more then just a lynch vote from gwen.

For now

lynch PBC
 
You are also buying into anther fallacy that one wolf controls what occurs. If we used that logic in the game I got converted recently, I could claim Nyanko would not have converted me in any normal circumstance and thus I could not be a wolf. It required you being there and active, and with your track record, I don't trust that you would have even been there to submit said night action.

Wolves kill people they vote for all the time. Just because you didn't see it, it was discussed on the thread quite heavily, to the point that t seemed like a noob mistake of her claiming a role by accident. (which also, bad on you protector wherever you are, for not saving that wolf kill, as that was an obvious protect)

If someone up for lunch claimed a role, and you were a wolf, why wouldn't you believe it? Just curious
Bro, GET OFF IT. You don't know how active I have been behind the scenes in other games, you don't know what I've gone through IRL during past games, and you don't know me or how I'm trying to build my play style... plus, out of ALL the people who play quietly, I'm the only one you're bitching about? Really.

When I USED to play super actively on the game thread, I almost always got lynched D1 so I really don't need your **** about how I'm "inactive" or whatever tf your deal is with me. Get over it.
 
Also, the 2 posts where cheathac did say she had a role did not seem to me that she actually had a role of importance, it seemed like a wolf trying to cover up her wolfiness, BUT go ahead and keep thinking that your opinions are more valid than mine :horns:
 
You are also buying into anther fallacy that one wolf controls what occurs. If we used that logic in the game I got converted recently, I could claim Nyanko would not have converted me in any normal circumstance and thus I could not be a wolf.

You were not successfully converted btw Mr. Chaos, but you are right that I did not want to convert you in any way shape or form. 😀
 
Bunch o' points. (And in some of them I'm responding to Pippy's posts - I know Pippy is dead, the responses are generalized.)

@cheathac - you shouldn't be 'like'ing posts that are strategic (like STL's above). You're dead. It could imply endorsement of the post, which would be a strategic thing. So just don't.

You guys are going to get a fun shocker when you lynch me and -- guess what -- I am not a wolf.

Gotta admit that this post in its million forms ("you guys are gonna feel so stupid when you find out I'm a villager!") annoys the hell out of me.

If it were a 'shock' to vote for a villager, we'd all be dead from heart attacks by now. It's WW - we lynch villagers most of them time. Yawn.

1) I just put her as one of the only 2 people who I was reading as village, so she'd have a soft vouch from a villager on record
2) A late vote with "oh I've been there, too" reasoning could be easily explained away as an honest mistake

(The post was in regard to Zen, if I recall)

I don't think it really means anything. I'm certainly not going to give it much weight.

I said LIS was more active, for anyone who is keeping track. I was referring to the fact that when he is present as a villager, he posts a lot of reads, particularly because his early reads are what he says he does best. His posts today were similar in number to times when he is able to post, but different in that I think he only made one comment that involved actual reads on people (maybe 2), and the rest were just...different. It also looked like he edited one of them a couple of times, which may be out of character or may not be (or admittedly, may have just been my phone not picking up the full post the first time it loaded). I understand his meta pattern as it relates to his work schedule.

LIS's activity is hit or miss. It's life.

I do enjoy early game more than late game, that's true. And I usually try and post a list of reads. I haven't had time to really formalize them this game yet. And I often wait until D2 to do it anyway.

I did edit a post somewhere back there - it was for typos. Believe me or don't. I don't care.

On the bandwagon front, I believe LIS broke the 3-way tie in my direction, and it was after making a comment about how he didn't mind that there was a tie at that point, presumably because of what it does for discussion. So why break it?

Indeed. And I also explained why I was changing my vote. Pippy apparently ignored that post.

And trilt though we wouldn't see her sneak in @DVMDream to the game :wave:

I want to start with zensing, genny, or hmoo. But to stick with my thoughts from yesterday:
********lynch hmoo************

I can get on board with any of those. I also like LG and 3M for lynches. LG because I had no sooner posted my reasons for Pippy than LG basically parroted them. Just seemed like a real wolfy "me 2" kinda post. 3M because of the whole "don't want Pippy lynched, but I'm going to vote in such a way that doesn't further that agenda." It's inconsistent.

For now:

lynch LG

As far as my current reads, I've barely started:

village - cdo, showshoe
wolf - LG, 3m, genny, hmoo

I'm not as sold on Zensing as STL, but I also don't have any objection to a zensing lynch.

I'll firm up my list later.
 
Also, the 2 posts where cheathac did say she had a role did not seem to me that she actually had a role of importance, it seemed like a wolf trying to cover up her wolfiness, BUT go ahead and keep thinking that your opinions are more valid than mine :horns:

My first read on it was that cheathac was saying she had a PR.

I mean, in the end, does it really matter? You *could* interpret it as cheathac saying she had a PR, so if you're the wolves .... even if you think it's unclear/uncertain, you still take her out just in case. Especially considering that your other option (wolf trying to cover up wolfiness) is something the wolves could obviously rule out..............
 
Would lynching Nyanko be an appropriate way of addressing the ****show that was that neuro companion animal exam? asking for a friend. Hmoo, I will respond to you when I am in a less feisty mood, to probably the disappointment of spectator chat
 
Actually, I'm taking hmoo off my wolf list.

I don't think she would have gone that balls to the wall as a wolf. Them was fighting words with her hackles up. I buy it.
 
@cdoconn, what was up with yesterday?
bolded part is really weird to me. She's making it more like "it's gonna hurt the villagers to lynch me" rather than "I help the villagers by being alive"
quoting because I agree with this breakdown
Coopah is being uncharacteristicly snarky this game. But I agree that I hate the "always a wolf so let's lynch 'em" strategy.

I thought it the same way, maybe we're just trained to jump on things like that. I'm if she *does* have a power village role, she'll get wolf killed rather soon.


#reasons is the vaguest BS reasoning I've ever seen. It would've been better to just lynch her and leave it blank. I understand that there was an actual reason but still. I was also keeping an eye on that reasoning as well that she might actually bus herself and I could track it back to wolves but still. #reasons is a terrible explanation that did nothing but draw attention to yourself.
so... do you want to be lynched? Because if you are village and you're just kinda giving up, you're not helping anyone.

for me it wasn't just the one post. There were lots of posts and the way you defended yourself was really sketchy to me. And then you just stopped defending yourself. Idk man. If you are village, defend yourself better. If you're a woof, well... don't? Hahaha
Big, long post where you seem to be building to Pippy as a wolf

Idk guys. I definitely think there's suspicions behind Pippy, but I can't say that they are wolf suspicions. I'm still getting wolfy vibes from cheat, so I'm gonna stick with my gut.

Lynch cheat
Little over an hour later, when pippy was far and away the leader (7 votes to anyone else's 2). The non-wolfy suspicions part is sketchy for me. You built towards lynching her, and then backed off when it got more momentum and seemed clearly in the lead. Why?
 
Would lynching Nyanko be an appropriate way of addressing the ****show that was that neuro companion animal exam? asking for a friend. Hmoo, I will respond to you when I am in a less feisty mood, to probably the disappointment of spectator chat
Now why would you want to go and disappoint spectator chat?
 
If I'm being honest, I wasn't paying close enough attention or I might have...never sure how to feel about ties though. Pippy is always advocating against them lol

This just sounds far too convenient. You voice a serious concern about another player's lynch, so you had obviously been paying enough attention to follow the goings on. Dropping a random "I got a bad feeling about this" and essentially walking away is a major red flag in my book.

Lynch mmmdreamerz
 
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Spectatortot Unofficial D2 Lynch Tally

Hmoo (1) - STL
3m (2) - ny, wtf
PBC (2) - snowy, AM
LG (1) - LIS
Cdo (1) - zen

7/18
Lynch close ~ 11 hours
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@cdoconn, what was up with yesterday?

Big, long post where you seem to be building to Pippy as a wolf


Little over an hour later, when pippy was far and away the leader (7 votes to anyone else's 2). The non-wolfy suspicions part is sketchy for me. You built towards lynching her, and then backed off when it got more momentum and seemed clearly in the lead. Why?
oh. I actually wasn't trying to build to anything. I just went chronologically, quoted & commented as I went. Between that post and my lynch vote I think Pippy had defended herself in a way that seemed really villagery/ that reminded me of my D1 village but getting lynched posts. I'd have to find them for you real quick.

As for the the non wolfly suspicions, I really think you can be cautious or suspicious of someone without trying to lynch them. I mean, I'm always suspicious that STL's always conning us, and is really trying to break the game, but I don't try to lynch him D1 because of it.

Also I'd hardly say I was building momentum for everyone else lynching Pippy considering that Pippy already had 6 votes before I had even made that long post. So it's not like I encouraged everyone to vote for Pippy and then cast my vote elsewhere- everyone was already voting for Pippy before I even got there.
Unofficial Lynch Tally:

Pippy (6) - PBC, Snowy, Coopah, LIS, Lyra, Gwen

PBC (1) - Pippy
cdo () -
3m () -
Gwen (1) - kata
cheat (2) - ny, WTF
hmoo (1) - STL
Coop (3) - cheat, AM, WZ
STL (0) -
genny (0) -
kata (1) - genny

15/19
Lynch close in ~ 3hrs.
 
So far I'm leaning 3M and lyra as wolfy, with gwen and kata also on my radar only because they've said so little. Everyone else is only mildly wolfy due to early-onset paranoia.

lynch 3m
 
****Lynch gwen****

totally random, just getting things started and I want a vote on the board before I forget about it.

This was your only post in the entire game, and it was for someone "totally random". It looks like you were around for a little bit throughout the day because you liked posts, but didn't add anything. I'd like to hear more from you. Until then lynch Kata
 
oh. I actually wasn't trying to build to anything. I just went chronologically, quoted & commented as I went. Between that post and my lynch vote I think Pippy had defended herself in a way that seemed really villagery/ that reminded me of my D1 village but getting lynched posts. I'd have to find them for you real quick.

As for the the non wolfly suspicions, I really think you can be cautious or suspicious of someone without trying to lynch them. I mean, I'm always suspicious that STL's always conning us, and is really trying to break the game, but I don't try to lynch him D1 because of it.

Also I'd hardly say I was building momentum for everyone else lynching Pippy considering that Pippy already had 6 votes before I had even made that long post. So it's not like I encouraged everyone to vote for Pippy and then cast my vote elsewhere- everyone was already voting for Pippy before I even got there.
The momentum building was about you setting up for yourself to vote for Pippy, not for you trying to direct the village that way. I agree that village momentum on Pippy was already present.

"Non-wolf suspicions" is still weird. To use your example above, STL conning is only a problem when he's a wolf. If he's a villager, he's plotting to find wolves, so why be suspicious about it?

I understand that you can be suspicious of someone without lynching them, but that's usually because there's a separate player you find more sketchy. If Pippy's play had you decide she was more likely a villager, then what were you suspicious of? If you thought that she was probably a wolf, then why did you think cheathac was more sketchy?
 
This one has lost that chance, although... maybe there's still something for her to do?
I'm surprised nobody commented on this, it looks like the dead might have a role in this game?

Hmoo seems village to me, I doubt she would have made such a fuss about cheat's death and drawn attention to herself sniping with STL if she were a wolf. LIS seems like his normal village self to me. Nyanko seems to be posting slightly more strategy than she did last game as a wolf, but I can never get a good read on her. I've learned never to trust STL, but I don't have any strong feelings on him either way yet. I think the Pippy/Zen thing is neither here nor there, vouches D1 in a game without group PMing don't mean much (if you could even call what Pippy said a vouch for Zen). I definitely want to hear more from @Gwenevre and @katashark today.

I agree. Pippy doesn't seem like a good D1 lynch at all at this point, so I wonder about this bandwagon...

Then why didn't you tie it up and try to give her a chance, then?

If I'm being honest, I wasn't paying close enough attention or I might have...never sure how to feel about ties though. Pippy is always advocating against them lol
This really doesn't sit right with me, that first post from 3m was 30 minutes before lynch close, so if she'd flipped to cheat and created a tie there was plenty of time for someone else to break the tie. Multiple times I've seen wolves stick with throwaway votes on D1 rather than vote for a candidate in the lead, so as not to gun too hard for someone's lynch early on. If you really didn't like the Pippy lynch, why not do something about it? 3m also mentioned Coop seeming sketchy earlier in the day, but didn't vote for her either.

lynch 3m
 
I think we could put some heat on kata to see what's up with her... she seems to play as a sneaky wolf and she's barely posted. So lynch kata
 
Official Lynch Tally:

Hmoo (1) - STL
3M (4) - nyan, WTF, genny, lyra
PBC (2) - Snowy, AM
Lyra (1) - LIS
Cdo (1) - Zen
Kata (2) - Coop, hmoo

Waffles: 0 🙁
Votes: 11/17
Lynch close in ~10hrs

... LYNCH MORE!
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I just wasn't around much yesterday sorry! Also, sometimes I forget to vote D1, it's happened in a few games I've played. I hate being that person to forget to lynch, so I just stuck a vote out there. Gwen is always pretty quiet. There have been a few games I've played with her where she just has lynch votes, so her wolfiness/villageriness is either way because she's usually so quiet. Yeah, I checked in last night and was catching up and liking stuff as I read it, then I fell asleep. whoops! D1 is always a s*** show for me. I'll try to be around more today, I'll hold off on lynching until I can sort through everything today. I always finds Zen's analysis slightly aggressive, but Zen's a super active player and I like that. If gwen and I did the same thing yesterday, both only posting one message with a lynch vote, I don't really get why people are wanting to put heat on me and not her, but I guess it's a 50-50 shot between us. Gwen jumped onto the pippy bandwagon. WZ is usually more active than she's been this game I feel like. She's posted some comments, but not anything super helpful/strategic either way.
General feels: lyra, 3m, wz,
On Radar: STL and zen - just because it's always good to keep these two in mind
I'll check back in and vote when I've caught up/thought things through hopefully during lunchtime.
 
Lynch @PrincessButterCup

I don't want her fading into the background like yesterday.

If by fading away you mean not defending against my one lynch vote . . . ? Otherwise, I was playing odd hours. I was on the thread around 2 am ET, and was at work for the last 8 hours before lynch closed. I didn't intend to fade away.
 
Guys the whole bandwagon lynch is how you ended up lynching a villager yesterday. I didn't want to jump on it. And the person WTF is suggesting I should have jumped on to tie it was also a villager. Ties don't help village and I already said I didn't realize there was a tie anyway.

I have to get back to work and prob won't be on until 7-ish but if you want a wolf, start looking elsewhere...
 
This just sounds far too convenient. You voice a serious concern about another player's lynch, so you had obviously been paying enough attention to follow the goings on. Dropping a random "I got a bad feeling about this" and essentially walking away is a major red flag in my book.

Lynch mmmdreamerz

I like this vote.

Especially because we've had ties the last two games at least, and they've both resolved with only one death. Some games have more severe mechanisms - the universe splits, both players die, etc - but it's really odd that one player disliking ties was enough of a reason for 3M not to try, when recent memory would say it's worth a shot.
 
I think we could put some heat on kata to see what's up with her... she seems to play as a sneaky wolf and she's barely posted. So lynch kata

I can get on board this.

unlynch Lyra (esp 'cause it doesn't seem to have traction)

lynch kata

Guys the whole bandwagon lynch is how you ended up lynching a villager yesterday. I didn't want to jump on it. And the person WTF is suggesting I should have jumped on to tie it was also a villager. Ties don't help village and I already said I didn't realize there was a tie anyway.

I have to get back to work and prob won't be on until 7-ish but if you want a wolf, start looking elsewhere...

I wouldn't call yesterday a bandwagon. There were a lot of votes on Pippy all day - it wasn't like everyone piled on in the last few minutes. It's not a bandwagon to have a "lot" of votes, in my book. It's a bandwagon if the votes all accumulate in short order.

Your logic about the person WTF suggesting you should lynch also being a villager is retrospective... so it's kinda pointless. Seems like you're trying to cast shade on WTF for suggesting you should have voted cheat, but if so, then you're casting shade on virtually all of us who said cheat's comments were sketchy. What WTF was pointing out is that your vote wasn't consistent with the points you were making. I agree with WTF.
 
I like this vote.

Especially because we've had ties the last two games at least, and they've both resolved with only one death. Some games have more severe mechanisms - the universe splits, both players die, etc - but it's really odd that one player disliking ties was enough of a reason for 3M not to try, when recent memory would say it's worth a shot.
Speed game was two games ago and resulted in ties having both people die.
 
Hmoo seems village to me, I doubt she would have made such a fuss about cheat's death and drawn attention to herself sniping with STL if she were a wolf. LIS seems like his normal village self to me. Nyanko seems to be posting slightly more strategy than she did last game as a wolf, but I can never get a good read on her. I've learned never to trust STL, but I don't have any strong feelings on him either way yet. I think the Pippy/Zen thing is neither here nor there, vouches D1 in a game without group PMing don't mean much (if you could even call what Pippy said a vouch for Zen). I definitely want to hear more from @Gwenevre and @katashark today.

Um no. Most of her posts have been joke/sass/unrelated.. Last game she had way more strategy beginning game.
 
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