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[PippyPony]

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Ah, ok. If it makes you feel any better about my half of it, I don't think that's an unusual pattern for me recently -- I've now clashed with a couple experienced players in a row who haven't liked the cut of my newly-minted jib.

Doesn't mean I'm sketchy, though I can't say I'm too sad about people thinking that I am.

 

[LetItSnow]

Ah, ok. If it makes you feel any better about my half of it, I don't think that's an unusual pattern for me recently -- I've now clashed with a couple experienced players in a row who haven't liked the cut of my newly-minted jib.

Doesn't mean I'm sketchy, though I can't say I'm too sad about people thinking that I am.

The multiple "not a wolf" comments also bug me. Smacks of trying too hard.

And it means you're sketchy (to me) if I say it does. What it doesn't mean is that I'm right. *shrug*

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Lynch Tally:

Pippy (4) - PBC, Snowy, Coop, LIS
PBC (1) - Pippy
cdo () -
3m () -
Gwen (1) - kata
cheat (2) - ny, WTF
hmoo (1) - STL
Coop (3) - cheat, AM, WZ
STL () -
genny (1) - Lyra
kata (1) - genny

14/19
Lynch close in ~ 5.5 hrs.

 

[LyraGardenia]

Unlynch genny, lynch Pippy

Also not a fan of the multiple "not a wolf" mentions (regardless of the fact that it was a drunk post), and the overly defensive snipes with WTF felt off to me. Cheat is seeming more nooby to me at this point.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ah, ok. If it makes you feel any better about my half of it, I don't think that's an unusual pattern for me recently -- I've now clashed with a couple experienced players in a row who haven't liked the cut of my newly-minted jib.

Doesn't mean I'm sketchy, though I can't say I'm too sad about people thinking that I am.

You're not upset/frustrated by people thinking you're sketchy?

 

[nyanko]

You're not upset/frustrated by people thinking you're sketchy?

there are so many layers to me quoting AM making this post about someone else that I can't even unpeel them

 

[nyanko]

But I also don't really get upset or frustrated when people think I'm sketchy.

 

[PippyPony]

You're not upset/frustrated by people thinking you're sketchy?

Well *now* I am a little bit, because I'm in the lead.

But a couple things to consider:

- I think I'm shaping up to be a decent villager when I'm left alive (until I manage to talk myself out of early reads, or someone *cough* STL*cough* gets in my head and starts messing with me). Based on how wolves have started voting for me early D1 in the last couple games where I was village, I'm not sure they would necessarily disagree with that statement, even though I feel like a tool for saying it

- I actually probably shouldn't be playing this game right now in the first place because of school & work, so whereas in other games I would maybe be more upset, I'm not too sad about the possibility of being a sacrificial lamb this time around

- what nyanko said

sent from ma fone

 

[PippyPony]

Me being in the lead also kind of ruins the reasoning for waiting to say what my theory was, so here it is:

At the end of the last game, cdo said that coop immediately told the other wolves to vote for her D1 because people would automatically think she is sketchy.

They did that, but ended up not getting village cred for it because Coop wasn't lynched D1.

I had some deja vu feelings about Coop's posts that hearkened back to last game and when the wolves bused her D1 in the vet clinic game, so I was wondering if they were trying the same strategy again, with Coop intentionally upping the sketch factor, because if it ain't broke...

So I would have preferred to wait to see who piled on to a Coop lynch to try to see who was trying to get credit, but obviously that's not going to work if they think they can shift the tide elsewhere, like say, a conveniently sketchy looking villager.

Of course, this theory being remotely accurate would be contingent on Coop RNGing a wolf role *again*, which would be truly unfortunate for her, but...RNG.

sent from ma fone

 

[Glammyre]

- I actually probably shouldn't be playing this game right now in the first place because of school & work, so whereas in other games I would maybe be more upset, I'm not too sad about the possibility of being a sacrificial lamb this time around

😵

Do you want to be lynched? You weren't on my wolf list (I've liked some of your points through the game, if not necessarily your style), but lack of defense raises red flags for me.

This is a small game. Lynches count. If you're a villager, then fight like one.

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Of the Coop, Pippy, cheat trio, Coop comes off the most sketchy to me at the moment (idk maybe because it kinda annoys me when it's the middle of the night and the game is barely started and I get called out for being quiet...could be swaying my opinion on this. Sorry Coop).

Cheat's reaction seems like past reactions and she's been lynched early recently so I could see her wanting to avoid that and be more active from the start.

Thinking about Telenovella, Pippy was definitely quieter when she was a wolf, but n=1 so hard to say. Not overly set on any of those three at the moment...need to think about this.

 

[Glammyre]

Me being in the lead also kind of ruins the reasoning for waiting to say what my theory was, so here it is:

At the end of the last game, cdo said that coop immediately told the other wolves to vote for her D1 because people would automatically think she is sketchy.

They did that, but ended up not getting village cred for it because Coop wasn't lynched D1.

I had some deja vu feelings about Coop's posts that hearkened back to last game and when the wolves bused her D1 in the vet clinic game, so I was wondering if they were trying the same strategy again, with Coop intentionally upping the sketch factor, because if it ain't broke...

So I would have preferred to wait to see who piled on to a Coop lynch to try to see who was trying to get credit, but obviously that's not going to work if they think they can shift the tide elsewhere, like say, a conveniently sketchy looking villager.

Of course, this theory being remotely accurate would be contingent on Coop RNGing a wolf role *again*, which would be truly unfortunate for her, but...RNG.

You said you were not voting for Coop for #reasons. Your theory requires that Coop is a wolf, which you'd need her lynched to see. Why not vote for her if you think she's a wolf?

 

[mmmdreamerz]

- I actually probably shouldn't be playing this game right now in the first place because of school & work, so whereas in other games I would maybe be more upset, I'm not too sad about the possibility of being a sacrificial lamb this time around

sent from ma fone

On one hand, I kinda get this feeling. On another hand, this just doesn't seem like you at all...

 

[PippyPony]

Because I wanted to see who was going to try to turn the tide.


Edit: tagging @Zensing because 3M ninja'd my post, this is in response to Zen.

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[PippyPony]

On one hand, I kinda get this feeling. On another hand, this just doesn't seem like you at all...

Soul-crushing exams do funny things to people

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Soul-crushing exams do funny things to people

I feel ya

 

[Glammyre]

Because I wanted to see who was going to try to turn the tide.

I feel like any half-decent wolf pack wouldn't turn the tide day 1. Acting unnecessarily aggressive draws votes that day, and acting unusually prescient draws votes in the future. It'd be tough to outweigh the drawback of losing a wolf day 1.

I'm still hung up on your test requiring everyone else to pile on Coop. What would you have done if Coop wasn't lynched?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Me being in the lead also kind of ruins the reasoning for waiting to say what my theory was, so here it is:

At the end of the last game, cdo said that coop immediately told the other wolves to vote for her D1 because people would automatically think she is sketchy.

They did that, but ended up not getting village cred for it because Coop wasn't lynched D1.

I had some deja vu feelings about Coop's posts that hearkened back to last game and when the wolves bused her D1 in the vet clinic game, so I was wondering if they were trying the same strategy again, with Coop intentionally upping the sketch factor, because if it ain't broke...

So I would have preferred to wait to see who piled on to a Coop lynch to try to see who was trying to get credit, but obviously that's not going to work if they think they can shift the tide elsewhere, like say, a conveniently sketchy looking villager.

Of course, this theory being remotely accurate would be contingent on Coop RNGing a wolf role *again*, which would be truly unfortunate for her, but...RNG.

sent from ma fone

I'm really uncomfortable with the way you're gunning for Coop but not voting her. Also, the "not" retaliatory vote for PBC isn't great. Coop is only a smidge higher up than you on my radar now.

 

[PippyPony]

I'm really uncomfortable with the way you're gunning for Coop but not voting her. Also, the "not" retaliatory vote for PBC isn't great. Coop is only a smidge higher up than you on my radar now.

A lot of you guys are tunneling on that one post, and you're barking up the wrong tree.

sent from ma fone

 

[Animal Midwife]

A lot of you guys are tunneling on that one post, and you're barking up the wrong tree.

sent from ma fone

Who do you recommend instead? PBC? Coop?

 

[PippyPony]

I feel like any half-decent wolf pack wouldn't turn the tide day 1. Acting unnecessarily aggressive draws votes that day, and acting unusually prescient draws votes in the future. It'd be tough to outweigh the drawback of losing a wolf day 1.

Except that wolves have most certainly done this in the last few games, but sure, it's totally wild and crazy for me to wonder if they'd do something like it again.

I'm still hung up on your test requiring everyone else to pile on Coop. What would you have done if Coop wasn't lynched?

Probably would have started to consider that my theory was bunk, and then re-evaluate, like I would do in light of any new information.

But there is no requirement that "everyone" would have had to jump on that lynch -- where are you getting that from?


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[SummerTheLynx]

A lot of you guys are tunneling on that one post, and you're barking up the wrong tree.

sent from ma fone

 

[PippyPony]

Who do you recommend instead? PBC? Coop?

I'm honestly not sure anymore. Probably still Coop, but I'd like to re-read some stuff from other games, because now I'm questioning it a bit, and I feel like I wouldn't get as much information from it at this point as I might have if things hadn't shifted towards me.

I'm also in an uncomfortable position right now where pretty much everyone is starting to sketch me out, and I feel like I have no strong village reads, which is unusual for me on D1 because I typically have an easier time pegging villagers.

I'll try to compile some more concrete reads in a bit, but have to do some school stuff for a while or I'm actually going to get myself into real life trouble.

 

[PippyPony]

As a complete aside before I go...

You wanna maybe give us a side of strategy with the healthy dish of fluff posts you've been serving up today?

Don't give me reasons to start thinking LIS's suggestion to lynch you from orbit is a good one.

 

[SummerTheLynx]

As a complete aside before I go...

You wanna maybe give us a side of strategy with the healthy dish of fluff posts you've been serving up today?

Don't give me reasons to start thinking LIS's suggestion to lynch you from orbit is a good one.

There was a reason I didn't sign up for this game (and certain other people signed me up). You are getting 95% fluff until Friday at the earliest.

 

[PippyPony]

There was a reason I didn't sign up for this game (and certain other people signed me up). You are getting 95% fluff until Friday at the earliest.

Lol ok fair.

sent from ma fone

 

[Gwenevre]

###lynch pippy###

Lack of defense, repeated "I'm not a wolf" statements.

 

[PippyPony]

###lynch pippy###

Lack of defense, repeated "I'm not a wolf" statements.

Seriously?

 

[PippyPony]

You guys are going to get a fun shocker when you lynch me and -- guess what -- I am not a wolf. Oh look, I said it again. Oh look, it's still true.

Everyone that's using my TRUE STATEMENTS as their sole justification to bandwagon lynch me might want to re-evaluate whether that was really a great thing to be tunneling on.

 

[JaynaAli]

Unofficial Lynch Tally:

Pippy (6) - PBC, Snowy, Coopah, LIS, Lyra, Gwen
PBC (1) - Pippy
cdo () -
3m () -
Gwen (1) - kata
cheat (2) - ny, WTF
hmoo (1) - STL
Coop (3) - cheat, AM, WZ
STL (0) -
genny (0) -
kata (1) - genny

15/19
Lynch close in ~ 3hrs.

 

[PippyPony]

Aside from the tunneling on that one post, there's a discomfiting amount of disagreement in some of the actual justifications being used to lynch me, if anyone wants to bother to look. The fact that no one is picking up on any of it is starting to get very frustrating right about now.

Am I being too aggressive, or not aggressive enough? Being too defensive, or not defending enough? Choose one.

sent from ma fone

 

[cdo96]

Catching up now. Also, having a really ****ty day so I wouldn't expect many cutesy, happy go lucky posts with emojis and gifs from me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Aside from the tunneling on that one post, there's a discomfiting amount of disagreement in some of the actual justifications being used to lynch me, if anyone wants to bother to look. The fact that no one is picking up on any of it is starting to get very frustrating right about now.

Am I being too aggressive, or not aggressive enough? Being too defensive, or not defending enough? Choose one.

sent from ma fone

Could you please isolate the posts in question? This is interesting to me.

 

[LyraGardenia]

Aside from the tunneling on that one post, there's a discomfiting amount of disagreement in some of the actual justifications being used to lynch me, if anyone wants to bother to look. The fact that no one is picking up on any of it is starting to get very frustrating right about now.

Am I being too aggressive, or not aggressive enough? Being too defensive, or not defending enough? Choose one.

sent from ma fone

I'm not really seeing what you're seeing, but to clarify my reasoning I thought you were overly defensive when WTF snarked about you tagging her earlier, but you're not defending yourself very well in regards to the votes against you. I know it's D1 so there's not a whole lot to say, but "I'm not a wolf" over and over isn't helpful. Anyone could say that. Pretty sure you did in the telenovela game, when you WERE a wolf.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

A lot of you guys are tunneling on that one post, and you're barking up the wrong tree.

sent from ma fone

There is a lot of tunneling on this one post. I don't like it even if it was the reason for my vote. I also feel like pippy is playing different/odd this game, but I can't pinpoint why. Gonna read back through and decide. I'm leaning towards switching to coop..

I feel like any half-decent wolf pack wouldn't turn the tide day 1. Acting unnecessarily aggressive draws votes that day, and acting unusually prescient draws votes in the future. It'd be tough to outweigh the drawback of losing a wolf day 1.

Except that wolves have most certainly done this in the last few games, but sure, it's totally wild and crazy for me to wonder if they'd do something like it again.

There were other reasons for the wolves to bus another wolf D1 in the other games... and I don't think the wolves were the ones who broke the tie onto another wolf (though I could be remembering wrong). I agree with Zen that it is not best to bus another wolf D1 just to potentially get village cred and if an experienced player is on the wolf team this game, I doubt its the wolves strategy.

 

[cdo96]

No particular reason. Have to start somewhere 😉 Unfortunately I'm feeling extremely tired.. moreso than I thought I would be at this time. So please don't go lynching me because I probably won't be saying a whole lot tonight. I'm no wolf. I'm fairly new to these games, but I am learning a little more each time. It would be a big waste of time and resources to lynch me.

bolded part is really weird to me. She's making it more like "it's gonna hurt the villagers to lynch me" rather than "I help the villagers by being alive"

Offenses:

1.) 'I'm tired' - why do you feel the need to defend an early & random lynch vote this way?

2.) 'Please don't lynch me' - in your very first post of the game. Great start.

3.) 'I'm no wolf' - my favorite defense ever, and also, 1st post of the game.

4.) 'I'm fairly new' - again, offering meaningless excuses in your first post.

Yeah, so tell me again why I shouldn't lynch you?

quoting because I agree with this breakdown

Hi there! FYI I'm not usually a wolf. And I always hate that reasoning. The RNG generator knows you're usually a wolf. Lol that's not how probability works! (From a stats person) anyways I know you didn't mean it that way as you're not voting for me, have any reads so far?

Coopah is being uncharacteristicly snarky this game. But I agree that I hate the "always a wolf so let's lynch 'em" strategy.

I actually read your comment the same way, but at the same time I'm side-eyeing coop for being so direct in calling attention to it. So not sure what to do there just yet but will probably vote for one of you

I thought it the same way, maybe we're just trained to jump on things like that. I'm if she *does* have a power village role, she'll get wolf killed rather soon.

It would not shock me if she was a wolf. I am not moving my vote there right now because #reasons, but I agree with this assessment.

#reasons is the vaguest BS reasoning I've ever seen. It would've been better to just lynch her and leave it blank. I understand that there was an actual reason but still. I was also keeping an eye on that reasoning as well that she might actually bus herself and I could track it back to wolves but still. #reasons is a terrible explanation that did nothing but draw attention to yourself.

I actually probably shouldn't be playing this game right now in the first place because of school & work, so whereas in other games I would maybe be more upset, I'm not too sad about the possibility of being a sacrificial lamb this time around

so... do you want to be lynched? Because if you are village and you're just kinda giving up, you're not helping anyone.

Aside from the tunneling on that one post, there's a discomfiting amount of disagreement in some of the actual justifications being used to lynch me, if anyone wants to bother to look. The fact that no one is picking up on any of it is starting to get very frustrating right about now.

Am I being too aggressive, or not aggressive enough? Being too defensive, or not defending enough? Choose one.

sent from ma fone

for me it wasn't just the one post. There were lots of posts and the way you defended yourself was really sketchy to me. And then you just stopped defending yourself. Idk man. If you are village, defend yourself better. If you're a woof, well... don't? Hahaha

 

[PippyPony]

I'm not really seeing what you're seeing, but to clarify my reasoning I thought you were overly defensive when WTF snarked about you tagging her earlier, but you're not defending yourself very well in regards to the votes against you. I know it's D1 so there's not a whole lot to say, but "I'm not a wolf" over and over isn't helpful. Anyone could say that. Pretty sure you did in the telenovela game, when you WERE a wolf.

I get that it's not helpful, and that anyone could say it. I just honestly don't know what else to say. I've never had to actually defend myself as a villager, so I don't know what else you want from me. Clearly it's not reads, since I've been trying to probe people to get reads on them all day, and that is somehow is getting construed as wolfy behavior by some people.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Also, as a side. If pippy is a wolf she is trying to play a different meta then last game and it isn't working out to well for her obvs or she is getting lazy an not rereading posts before she writes them because I feel like so far her posts have been all over the emotional spectrum from whining to joking to logical to annoyed. I think she was a smart wolf, I don't think she'd be flailing as much as she is now.. Also she said she asked trilt about wanting pms which last game she said she wasn't a fan of as a wolf. But, I mean the fact these weird me out also make me think it could be wolfy...

Also, I don't like tunneling day one so

Unlynch Pippy

until I figure out who to lynch or I convince myself to go back to pippy...

 

[Glammyre]

Am I being too aggressive, or not aggressive enough? Being too defensive, or not defending enough? Choose one.

@LyraGardenia hit most of it. You were aggressive and defensive when people aren't on your case, but you somewhat rolled over when people started pushing people. Too defensive in the first case, not defensive enough in the latter. It's not contradictory. At least you're starting to even out now.

There were other reasons for the wolves to bus another wolf D1 in the other games... and I don't think the wolves were the ones who broke the tie onto another wolf (though I could be remembering wrong). I agree with Zen that it is not best to bus another wolf D1 just to potentially get village cred and if an experienced player is on the wolf team this game, I doubt its the wolves strategy.

I haven't kept up well on games since B2B2. What were the reasons people used? I'd be willing to hear more in favor of Pippy's argument, if the past game history is out there.

I get that it's not helpful, and that anyone could say it. I just honestly don't know what else to say. I've never had to actually defend myself as a villager, so I don't know what else you want from me. Clearly it's not reads, since I've been trying to probe people to get reads on them all day, and that is somehow is getting construed as wolfy behavior by some people.

To some extent, it was the way you were probing. The other was in how you explained your read + behavior over Coop. As for defense - are there any other reads you have to share?

 

[Coopah]

Coopah is being uncharacteristicly snarky this game.

... I thought I was being friendly 😳

 

[PippyPony]

#reasons is the vaguest BS reasoning I've ever seen. It would've been better to just lynch her and leave it blank. I understand that there was an actual reason but still. I was also keeping an eye on that reasoning as well that she might actually bus herself and I could track it back to wolves but still. #reasons is a terrible explanation that did nothing but draw attention to yourself.
so... do you want to be lynched? Because if you are village and you're just kinda giving up, you're not helping anyone.

I disagree that it would have been better to do that, cdo.

And the fact that I said vague stuff like "#reasons" should be a sign to people that I did not care if my posts looked slightly sketchy. PSA: wolves care if their posts look sketchy. I'm almost offended that people think I'm that bad of a wolf.

for me it wasn't just the one post. There were lots of posts and the way you defended yourself was really sketchy to me. And then you just stopped defending yourself. Idk man. If you are village, defend yourself better. If you're a woof, well... don't? Hahaha

So, up above, you're saying you agreed with my premise, but not the method. Now you're saying you think I'm really sketchy. Which is it?

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

If you're a woof, well... don't? Hahaha

 

[hazelmoo]

It would not shock me if she was a wolf. I am not moving my vote there right now because #reasons, but I agree with this assessment.

I'm confused. Why would it shock you if coop was a wolf? How could you have any information about who is/isn't a wolf at this point unless you were a wolf yourself?

I have a theory; I am happy to elaborate later, but would prefer not to right now.

Again... how could you possibly have a theory of the game just started today? Am I missing something here?

 

[Coopah]

I get that it's not helpful, and that anyone could say it. I just honestly don't know what else to say. I've never had to actually defend myself as a villager, so I don't know what else you want from me. Clearly it's not reads, since I've been trying to probe people to get reads on them all day, and that is somehow is getting construed as wolfy behavior by some people.

This is rather telling for me. I don't know how many times I was lynched immediately for saying things like "I just don't know what else you want" or "I don't know what to do". A villager would give their reasoning behind every post when questioned not just say I have a secret theory! You have defended as a villager before, maybe not this intensely but you have done it. Don't just give up, say why you're a villager. From this I'm pretty convinced you're a wolf.

 

[PippyPony]

Also, as a side. If pippy is a wolf she is trying to play a different meta then last game and it isn't working out to well for her obvs or she is getting lazy an not rereading posts before she writes them because I feel like so far her posts have been all over the emotional spectrum from whining to joking to logical to annoyed. I think she was a smart wolf, I don't think she'd be flailing as much as she is now.. Also she said she asked trilt about wanting pms which last game she said she wasn't a fan of as a wolf. But, I mean the fact these weird me out also make me think it could be wolfy...

See my earlier response to 3M. It's seriously because I'm letting real life stress leak into this game, and sometimes when I get really stressed, I flail around like an idiot, as you have correctly observed.

 

[PippyPony]

This is rather telling for me. I don't know how many times I was lynched immediately for saying things like "I just don't know what else you want" or "I don't know what to do". A villager would give their reasoning behind every post when questioned not just say I have a secret theory! You have defended as a villager before, maybe not this intensely but you have done it. Don't just give up, say why you're not a villager. From this I'm pretty convinced you're a wolf.

What?

 

[KCgophervet]

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I'm not playing, my phone went nutso
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[Coopah]

I disagree that it would have been better to do that, cdo.

And the fact that I said vague stuff like "#reasons" should be a sign to people that I did not care if my posts looked slightly sketchy. PSA: wolves care if their posts look sketchy. I'm almost offended that people think I'm that bad of a wolf.



So, up above, you're saying you agreed with my premise, but not the method. Now you're saying you think I'm really sketchy. Which is it?

Seriously? That is incredibly WIFOM logic and not a defense at all. You just said you were stressed out but now you'd be a better player if you were a wolf. These things don't add up.

 

[Coopah]

What?

Edit: Oh my typo, just caught it 😛 I wanted to say not a wolf and are a villager in the same sentence

 

[PippyPony]

I'm confused. Why would it shock you if coop was a wolf? How could you have any information about who is/isn't a wolf at this point unless you were a wolf yourself?

It wouldn't shock me because her posts have had a wolfy tone to them. You mis-read the post.

Again... how could you possibly have a theory of the game just started today? Am I missing something here?

I always have theories - starting on D1 - spanning from accurate to ridiculous, but there's a reason why I usually wait until later on in the game to post them and expose people to the crazy. And after the way today has deteriorated, I am definitely going to reinstate that policy and keep my mouth shut for longer next time.

But also -- since when is having theories wolfy??