Class of 2020... how you doin?

[Trilt]

I mean, I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt, and would probably even help. But worth $800 and the summer before vet school...?

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[WildZoo]

I mean, I'm sure that it wouldn't hurt, and would probably even help. But worth $800 and the summer before vet school...?

That was my main thing, I'm not keen on paying $800 for an ungraded 10 day course. Plus they weren't super descriptive about it so it very well may be just some intro stuff (they mentioned basic terminology and dissection techniques) that I already know.

 

[rockatiel]

I wish I was. My first reaction when i saw the email was "uhhhhh no" but then people on the facebook page, including people in the class above us, were talking about it and recommending it and i got insecure

Don't compare yourself to classmates! I'm guilty of it too.

 

[psilovethomas]

UTK is offering an anatomy prep course for the first time this year and it seems like it could be a good idea to take it but... it's $800.

Not worth it!! You'll be fine without it. Think of all the classes before you that passed anatomy without the class. Enjoy your last summer and save your money.

 

[katashark]

Just take free classes about sharks instead


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[LetItSnow]

Just take free classes about sharks instead

Do you get to play with them? I'd take that class in a heartbeat if it were free.

Heh. I loved vet school electives that weren't in my area of interest. I took two equine electives. It's so low-pressure when you don't actually plan to practice equine (or whatever your respective interests are or aren't). I could just kick back, soak in the info, and enjoy learning. No sense of "Oh man, I really better remember this".

I was never smart enough to treat all of school that way, but I probably would have done better if I had.

 

[LyraGardenia]

Managed to get 98% of my stuff packed up and either into storage or over to my parents' house today. So. Tired. Just have a few little things to fetch from my apartment over the next couple of days, and of course we have to clean the place. It hasn't really sunk in that I'm completely done with both of my jobs. Maybe once I don't go in Tuesday it will start to feel real.

 

[missdarjeeling]

Life lesson #964: with each year of your life that goes by, the measure of how much of a pain in the a-- it is to deal with your own medical records increases exponentially. You get extra bonus points if, like me, you were lucky enough to be born in a country that routinely gave the useless tuberculosis vaccine that results in a false positive on the Mantoux test possibly for life.

How is it that the only proof I have that I had the chicken pox is the bunch of get well cards that the other second graders gave me? How great would it be if I submitted that to student health services as proof?

 

[Teepster87]

@SandstormDVM and @rockatiel Lenovo is having a sale this weekend on the laptop you both mentioned. Base model seems fairly cheap (maybe 30%ish off) but it gives you the option to change out features.

 

[Cephal0pod]

Life lesson #964: with each year of your life that goes by, the measure of how much of a pain in the a-- it is to deal with your own medical records increases exponentially. You get extra bonus points if, like me, you were lucky enough to be born in a country that routinely gave the useless tuberculosis vaccine that results in a false positive on the Mantoux test possibly for life.

How is it that the only proof I have that I had the chicken pox is the bunch of get well cards that the other second graders gave me? How great would it be if I submitted that to student health services as proof?

I'm one of the special people that tests false positive on the Mantoux as well, though I didn't get that vaccine. Annual chest rads for me, wooo...

 

[Temerairegrl]

Life lesson #964: with each year of your life that goes by, the measure of how much of a pain in the a-- it is to deal with your own medical records increases exponentially. You get extra bonus points if, like me, you were lucky enough to be born in a country that routinely gave the useless tuberculosis vaccine that results in a false positive on the Mantoux test possibly for life.

How is it that the only proof I have that I had the chicken pox is the bunch of get well cards that the other second graders gave me? How great would it be if I submitted that to student health services as proof?

I feel your pain, my parents lost my vaccination records and I too was born and raised in another country. And for some reason even my undergrad doesn't have my varicella or HepB records so now I've to get titters. Not as easy of a process as you would think with my PIA insurance.


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[ImAVet]

I hope Mizzou doesn't require us to purchase microscopes or $2000k laptops.... I'm very content with my apple pro....

 

[Ashgirl]

I hope Mizzou doesn't require us to purchase microscopes or $2000k laptops.... I'm very content with my apple pro....

No worries, they do not require any of that! Any computer that you like and can take notes will be just fine

 

[Caiter92]

$2000k laptops.

That'd be one expensive laptop

 

[rockatiel]

@SandstormDVM and @rockatiel Lenovo is having a sale this weekend on the laptop you both mentioned. Base model seems fairly cheap (maybe 30%ish off) but it gives you the option to change out features.

I'll look into it, but I've heard current students say that IT gives you more of a hassle if you order the computer straight from Lenovo. Thanks!

 

[missdarjeeling]

I'm one of the special people that tests false positive on the Mantoux as well, though I didn't get that vaccine. Annual chest rads for me, wooo...

Annual? Well, that's fantastic. How can they justify that, if you're not heading out into countries where TB is endemic? I mean, you'd think that if they had already seen a clear chest rad that they'd be convinced you're okay... Do they have any idea why you test positive? Could you have been exposed to someone who was asymptomatic at some point?

I've managed to escape having chest rads by luck, I guess. Before I started undergrad, my doctor had to do a Mantoux, and I came up as being right on the edge of positive. I think it looked like it was exactly 12 mm (or whatever the cut-off is), but my doctor said it was just shy of that by 1 mm. The next 3 schools I went to accepted that record, and none of the 4 cared about varicella.

Based on the questionnaire I had to do for Penn, I'm probably getting picked out for a TB test because I was born in one of the countries on their high risk list and visited Russia twice 10 years ago, spending over a month there each time. I'll probably end up needing chest rads when I get to school, since they test students themselves and refuse to accept Mantoux results from any other provider. I just hope they'll let me go to an in-network provider for rads since I won't be on the student health insurance plan.

I feel your pain, my parents lost my vaccination records and I too was born and raised in another country. And for some reason even my undergrad doesn't have my varicella or HepB records so now I've to get titters. Not as easy of a process as you would think with my PIA insurance.

That is annoying. My mom doesn't have much in the way of records, either, which is baffling since she's always been very good about important paperwork. Hopefully you can get your titre situation straightened out. I have a feeling I might have to do that for varicella unless my old doctor's office miraculously keeps records for well over 10 years.

 

[Cephal0pod]

Annual? Well, that's fantastic. How can they justify that, if you're not heading out into countries where TB is endemic? I mean, you'd think that if they had already seen a clear chest rad that they'd be convinced you're okay... Do they have any idea why you test positive? Could you have been exposed to someone who was asymptomatic at some point?

The annual aspect is mostly because I do zoo stuff, and most zoo facilities ask you to be tested for TB annually since they have non-human primates, etc. I don't know if vet school requires annual testing or not?

My GP told me that I was probably exposed to another mycobacterium at some point that was similar to TB.

 

[missdarjeeling]

How's everybody doing?

I just realized today that now that I have my school email set up, I could finally register for VIN. Next exciting moment after actually getting into school! No more having to peek over the doctors' shoulders as they're showing me threads on there!

 

[deleted676737]

How's everybody doing?

I just realized today that now that I have my school email set up, I could finally register for VIN. Next exciting moment after actually getting into school! No more having to peek over the doctors' shoulders as they're showing me threads on there!

Yep, I registered for VIN earlier this week and have been sorta aimlessly browsing it since. There's so much information on there... almost makes me feel like I'm way in over my head. Though I've been having bad cold feet about vet school in general these past few weeks.

 

[WildZoo]

I've been on VIN for a year

 

[missdarjeeling]

Yep, I registered for VIN earlier this week and have been sorta aimlessly browsing it since. There's so much information on there... almost makes me feel like I'm way in over my head.

Looking forward to wasting hours and hours of my time.

Though I've been having bad cold feet about vet school in general these past few weeks.

Me too. The school part is scary enough. The relocating part makes it so much worse.

 

[Trilt]

Yep, I registered for VIN earlier this week and have been sorta aimlessly browsing it since. There's so much information on there... almost makes me feel like I'm way in over my head. Though I've been having bad cold feet about vet school in general these past few weeks.

FWIW, this happens to pretty much everybody. Here's a cold feet thread I remember from a quite a few years back... where TT then linked to oodles of even older ones. It was bumped in 2013 and '14 from people feeling the same way.

You'll all be in way over your heads, but that's OK. Everyone is, and the vast vast vaassst majority of people make it through just fine. Vet school is both awesome and horrible but overall it is very doable.

 

[twelvetigers]

VIN is still too much information for me. I search for very specific things and get very specific answers. I don't just read around to try and learn random things, because it would be overwhelming.

 

[rockatiel]

I move to Starkvegas in 7 days. Basically, I'm gonna hurl.

 

[DVMDream]

VIN is still too much information for me. I search for very specific things and get very specific answers. I don't just read around to try and learn random things, because it would be overwhelming.

I still can't figure out how to even navigate VIN... I've tried a few times, but can't seem to quite get the way things are laid out.

 

[sarakittykat]

The universe is telling me not to pack. I move in 10 days. On Tuesday I sprained my ankle pretty badly so have been immobile for a few days. This morning I wake up with food poisoning. I have yet to pack and I'm wondering what ailment is going to get thrown at me next to keep me from packing

 

[rockatiel]

Yep, I registered for VIN earlier this week and have been sorta aimlessly browsing it since. There's so much information on there... almost makes me feel like I'm way in over my head. Though I've been having bad cold feet about vet school in general these past few weeks.

Same. Trilt beat me to it but I'm positive we are not the only ones. I keep getting emails about anatomy group assignments, financial aid, etc, and it's more than I can take sometimes. Since our dress code is so strict I really need to take the time to piece together outfits and make sure I have enough clothes but every time I go to do it, I freak out lol

 

[twelvetigers]

I still can't figure out how to even navigate VIN... I've tried a few times, but can't seem to quite get the way things are laid out.

It's weird.

 

[DVMDream]

It's weird.

And my free student access has now run out, so I can't get into it either.

 

[DVMDream]

And their pricing is odd. First year post-graduation you can pay $18.30/month which if you multiply out by 12 months in a year... that is $219.60... OR you can pay $228.60/year... I am confused on how they have done their math, unless you get some discount for paying monthly, which is odd because usually the discount is if you are willing to pay in full upfront. All of their other pricing is similar. For non-recent grads it is $61/month, which when multiplied by 12 gets you $732 for the year OR they have it so you can pay $762 for the entire year...

 

[DVMDream]

Ah found their reason for why the annual fee is higher further down the page..

• Annual Payment: Choose this option and pay with either a credit card or a check. You'll receive a reminder (invoice) when your membership is due for renewal. Yes, the fee is slightly higher than the monthly fee because we are not anxious to collect your membership fees in advance and if you choose this option, we feel obliged to ask you before we charge your membership fee and, given your busy schedule, can translate to many emails and phone calls from the VIN membership staff (see Annual Auto-Renew option above)

Okie dokie.

 

[Trilt]

I do really wish VIN was laid out like... pretty much any other forum around. Does make it hard to just peruse, and I feel like every couple months I find a whole new section of the website that I've never used. During fourth year I mainly used their associates pages and looked for conference proceedings on relevant topics. I really like their rounds podcasts for long drives, too. And the heart sounds section.

 

[DVMDream]

I do really wish VIN was laid out like... pretty much any other forum around. Does make it hard to just peruse, and I feel like every couple months I find a whole new section of the website that I've never used. During fourth year I mainly used their associates pages and looked for conference proceedings on relevant topics. I really like their rounds podcasts for long drives, too. And the heart sounds section.

Yeah I mainly used VIN for the online Plumb's... it was easy to access and searchable. I tried to search things a few times on VIN (articles or even forums) and just got confused by what I was looking at or even where the most recent info was. Once I get access again, I will look around a bit more and try to kind of figure out where things are.

 

[Trilt]

Yeah I mainly used VIN for the online Plumb's... it was easy to access and searchable. I tried to search things a few times on VIN (articles or even forums) and just got confused by what I was looking at or even where the most recent info was. Once I get access again, I will look around a bit more and try to kind of figure out where things are.

Oh yes, definitely the Plumb's too. Beats hunting around the hospital for a copy.

Feel free to toss me a PM or fb message me when you do, I think I have it mostly figured out and could point you the right way. And same to the 2020ers.

Edit: oh and allll their CE is free as a vet student, so take advantage of that! I signed up for a good few even when busy because I now have the transcripts and all the resources saved on my account and can look back on them. And you can't beat free.

 

[ImAVet]

Guys...... What's VIN......

 

[DVMDream]

Guys...... What's VIN......

It is the Veterinary Information Network. It is intended for veterinarians and has a section of forums where veterinarians can ask questions or discuss topics. It also has some articles and online book resources, such as Plumb's. Only veterinarians are able to sign up for it. You can sign up as a veterinary student once you have a student email address. It is nice because there are veterinarians from all over the world including specialists and it is nice for collaboration or to discuss difficult cases. They also provide access to conferences and CE events.

 

[that redhead]

VIN is still too much information for me. I search for very specific things and get very specific answers. I don't just read around to try and learn random things, because it would be overwhelming.

Seconded. (Part of this may be because I'm still pretty clueless on general browsing, heh.) Although I do like to read some of the "trenches" threads because everyone is so wonderfully supportive and just hearing stories where the bottom line is essentially "Everyone is human" is nice.

 

[deleted676737]

Yeah, I was rather confused by the layout at first, but I think I've largely got the hang of it now. There is just a ton on that site and I'm very thankful that they allow free access for vet students; if it turns out that I find myself using it a lot during school, then I would certainly be more than willing to pay and keep my account active once I'm out (provided that I'm not completely financially destitute... which I guess is fairly likely, being vet med). It's really neat.

 

[WildZoo]

I browse VIN when SDN is slow (I don't have a problem I swear), still not real great at navigating but I like reading the discussions on the articles and such. And then sometimes I'll look up stuff that I came across at work or whatever.

 

[missdarjeeling]

The doctors I've worked with have mentioned the trenches type of threads, in particular the ones where people vent about the general insanity that is dealing with clients, with a "just wait until you get a chance to read this stuff - it's such a great resource." That's really what I anticipate wasting most of my time on.

 

[vetmedhead]

Finally got around to submitting my info for a VIN account. Now I just wait to be approved before I can poke around the site.

 

[Teepster87]

Ugggh. Still haven't found a place to live. Not knowing the areas where I'm going doesn't really help, but my wife shooting down anything I find that's halfway decent is killing me.

 

[missdarjeeling]

The only thing that's been easing my anxiety is looking for fun stuff to do in the neighborhood (even though I probably won't have time for much of it). Just found out there's an arts center not 2 blocks away from my new apartment, and they do weekly swing dances. More excited for that than gross anatomy, the thought of which makes me want to barf from worry. I highly recommend this distraction tactic.

 

[orca2011]

The only thing that's been easing my anxiety is looking for fun stuff to do in the neighborhood (even though I probably won't have time for much of it). Just found out there's an arts center not 2 blocks away from my new apartment, and they do weekly swing dances. More excited for that than gross anatomy, the thought of which makes me want to barf from worry. I highly recommend this distraction tactic.

I promise that you'll have time. I did a lot of things with friends throughout all 4 years. Was I a straight A student? No but I was fine with that. First year was my worst academically but I think that was more because I wasn't studying efficiently/figured out how to study for anatomy.

 

[Posey]

Ugggh. Still haven't found a place to live. Not knowing the areas where I'm going doesn't really help, but my wife shooting down anything I find that's halfway decent is killing me.

Yikes. Can you do a weekend trip to look for a place?

I found a place and need to pack/ move. But my hubby is dragging his feet. First, he decided not to move and made arrangements with his job to spend part of his time working remotely (i.e., where I'll be). Then, he "forgot" the lease start date and avoided questions about arranging movers. Yesterday, he changed his mind again and decided he'll move with me. At this point, I no longer have the energy to care where he lives. I'm just going to focus on moving my stuff, my pets, and myself. He can handle his stuff and selling our house, or renting it, or whatever he wants.


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[Temerairegrl]

Yikes. Can you do a weekend trip to look for a place?

I found a place and need to pack/ move. But my hubby is dragging his feet. First, he decided not to move and made arrangements with his job to spend part of his time working remotely (i.e., where I'll be). Then, he "forgot" the lease start date and avoided questions about arranging movers. Yesterday, he changed his mind again and decided he'll move with me. At this point, I no longer have the energy to care where he lives. I'm just going to focus on moving my stuff, my pets, and myself. He can handle his stuff and selling our house, or renting it, or whatever he wants.


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Yeah you don't need all that extra stress ... Worse comes to worse he can move with you 6 months/ a year later if he really wants to move and you can sublease your place if it is too small.


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[rockatiel]

Yikes. Can you do a weekend trip to look for a place?

I found a place and need to pack/ move. But my hubby is dragging his feet. First, he decided not to move and made arrangements with his job to spend part of his time working remotely (i.e., where I'll be). Then, he "forgot" the lease start date and avoided questions about arranging movers. Yesterday, he changed his mind again and decided he'll move with me. At this point, I no longer have the energy to care where he lives. I'm just going to focus on moving my stuff, my pets, and myself. He can handle his stuff and selling our house, or renting it, or whatever he wants.


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Yikes, that's crazy. And if I remember correctly, a lot of your school choice hinged on his ability to get a job... He better make up his mind. Just focus on getting settled in BR right now and getting this new adventure started.

 

[Posey]

Yikes, that's crazy. And if I remember correctly, a lot of your school choice hinged on his ability to get a job... He better make up his mind. Just focus on getting settled in BR right now and getting this new adventure started.

Yup. He has the option to work 100% from BR, and that was our original plan. After digging into things a bit, he discovered a significant problem with that option. It's a long story, but the manager who offered that arrangement was missing information. So, I understand logically why it's not an ideal situation for him.

At this point, I can't wait for him to figure it out. Been packing and getting my things ready to go. I found a great place to live that allows my pets, and I'm excited to explore a new town. Just trying to survive the move.

When do your classes start? This month, right?


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[rockatiel]

Yup. He has the option to work 100% from BR, and that was our original plan. After digging into things a bit, he discovered a significant problem with that option. It's a long story, but the manager who offered that arrangement was missing information. So, I understand logically why it's not an ideal situation for him.

At this point, I can't wait for him to figure it out. Been packing and getting my things ready to go. I found a great place to live that allows my pets, and I'm excited to explore a new town. Just trying to survive the move.

When do your classes start? This month, right?


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Lol, they start next Monday (27th). I'm moving Saturday.

 

[rockatiel]

Mississippi State be crazy.

Its okay, I obviously be crazy too...