FTF's Worst Idea Yet (Game Over)

[JustPaws]

You know what AM I need to take a bit away from this thread because I'm getting upset. I'll be back when I feel more able to focus on the game

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[Animal Midwife]

 

[Crayola227]

So the birthday person just tried to show me something but I was on my phone and they made the sad face. So that has to be it for now.

I'm sure everyone who is scum will take a lesson from this.

 

[Crayola227]

That game was a lot of fun, you were the only person who threw a **** fit and continues to bring it up. I saw you mention it just like 3 or 4 days ago in ANOTHER sign up thread

Yeah all that happened was the mod totally frakked up night results because they had no experience and had no business modding complex games when they could have yknow got more experience first.

Wolfing is a huge investment of time and energy on a level that makes having the whole thing screwed up on a dumb error like that (and it wasn't the first time they showed they had no business modding yet btw) completely frustrating for anyone trying to win and make the game challenging for others.

It might have been fine for you guys, doesn't change that there was no place in that game for that error and to screw over some of your players not once but over and over just because you're arrogant.

But if village wants to get handed wins
in part because of mod errors, and finds that satisfying, not much I can say there.

Bastard games not advertised as bastard.

 

[Crayola227]

Yeah sorry if someone wants to bring up what a great job village did that game, not gonna sit on the fact the mod screwed up.

 

[JustPaws]

I’m gonna take a quick look at the rolelist to see if there’s a sinister reason you might want to survive to D3, but if not I’ll move my vote back to cray for tonight.

have you said why cray? because I'm not really seeing that one

I’m getting a feeling that she’s more dispassionate, less pointed, and less attentive than her usual village play

To be fair though she can’t post at night while the rest of us sleep, which is kind of her bread and butter.

So here is zenge subtly defending cray. So zenge hung out on cray day 1, little back and forth, and then switched to defending her posting style when others (vis) were considering voting there

 

[WildZoo]

@Animal Midwife r u ok

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife r u ok

my stomach's upset ut I'm otherwise fine

 

[JustPaws]

Does anyone else see what I'm seeing or is it really vis? Will someone besides cray please talk to me

 

[WildZoo]

So here is zenge subtly defending cray. So zenge hung out on cray day 1, little back and forth, and then switched to defending her posting style when others (vis) were considering voting there

Interesting, did vis follow up on checking the role list there?

 

[Viscernable]

Uh there’s a lot going on on this thread and I don’t want to butt into that conversation or somehow make any hurt feelings worse. Sorry that things went badly and got personal.

I still feel cray is most likely to be mafia. I’m fine with voting there.

 

[Crayola227]

So here is zenge subtly defending cray. So zenge hung out on cray day 1, little back and forth, and then switched to defending her posting style when others (vis) were considering voting there

He also voted me. He didn't want to get into a direct confrontation with me and was probably milking whatever leeway I gave him.

 

[Crayola227]

Uh there’s a lot going on on this thread and I don’t want to butt into that conversation or somehow make any hurt feelings worse. Sorry that things went badly and got personal.

I still feel cray is most likely to be mafia. I’m fine with voting there.

You're claimed 3P with supposed inclusive wincon? So it doesn't really matter if you're right or wrong so not really sure it should be up to you, especially when you're wrong.

 

[JustPaws]

Interesting, did vis follow up on checking the role list there?

Yes here:

Only thing I see is maaaayve congruent werewolf roleblocker wants to be alive to roleblock N2, but I’m fine with risking that and putting Z aside until tomorrow.

unvote: Z
Vote: cray

Oh that’s true. I might go to sunny instead, considering.

Oh noooo april the one player vroadcasting village vibes :c

Are we sure we want to use our vote on a role that isn’t a threat until D5, considering we are already down to 8 players?

Personally, I don’t want to use the cycle to vote goo that doesn’t activate until D5 when it looks like mafia or another faction could easily reach parity before then unless we yeet them this cycle, considering how many villagers died last night.

Also I didn’t really consider that cray’s not able to post at the times she usually does so that could be the whole reason she feels different this game

unvote: cray
Vote: sunny

 

[JustPaws]

Yes here:

Sorry meant to also say about the next 3 posts her discussing sunny as a vote and then saying we shouldn't vote pippy 2 times

 

[Crayola227]

I'm in the car again which gives me a few min to play before we're at the next pub and then a friend's house.

 

[WildZoo]

Yes here:

Huh. Odd she didn't mention the mafia treestump.

 

[Viscernable]

You're claimed 3P with supposed inclusive wincon? So it doesn't really matter if you're right or wrong so not really sure it should be up to you, especially when you're wrong.

Not in terms of winning, no, but the fun of the game is trying to figure out who the scum are. I’d like to win with village and intend to try, although I think that’s extremely unlikely to happen since there’s probably a sk or wolf remaining.

 

[Viscernable]

Huh. Odd she didn't mention the mafia treestump.

How is treestumping a useful ability we should have been scared of happening? If he was going to stump then he was going to die anyway the next day and there was no point in yeeting him.

 

[JustPaws]

The thing is, it's obvious that vis is not village based on her posts. But I just cannot decide cray or vis. And vis keeps bringing up wolves and sk so?

 

[JustPaws]

How is treestumping a useful ability we should have been scared of happening? If he was going to stump then he was going to die anyway the next day and there was no point in yeeting him.

We would have known he could be mafia and then killed him

 

[JustPaws]

@Viscernable did you read AMs post this morning??

 

[Viscernable]

BTW if Dubz and AM are pretty confident there’s two antivillage killers left, my offer to willingly be yeeted to let them thunderdome it out tonight for a chance at a village win still stands.

 

[JustPaws]

The point is why not mention it?

 

[Viscernable]

@Viscernable did you read AMs post this morning??

Which one?

 

[JustPaws]

Which one?

The one where she says she would have voted him to get him dead dead

 

[WildZoo]

How is treestumping a useful ability we should have been scared of happening? If he was going to stump then he was going to die anyway the next day and there was no point in yeeting him.

Was the point not to look for roles where d3 might be relevant though? I'd have thought you would at least mention it.

 

[WildZoo]

BTW if Dubz and AM are pretty confident there’s two antivillage killers left, my offer to willingly be yeeted to let them thunderdome it out tonight for a chance at a village win still stands.

I am confident of nothing

 

[Viscernable]

The point is why not mention it?

I wasn’t looking for abilities that activated D3, I was looking for reasons that village might need to yeet Z specifically that day. Compulsively treestumping on D3 is not a reason he needed to be yeeted - it actually means it’s better that we didn’t waste a cycle killing him right before he died for free.

 

[JustPaws]

BTW if Dubz and AM are pretty confident there’s two antivillage killers left, my offer to willingly be yeeted to let them thunderdome it out tonight for a chance at a village win still stands.

@Animal Midwife is there a role that is unvotable?

 

[WildZoo]

I wasn’t looking for abilities that activated D3, I was looking for reasons that village might need to yeet Z specifically that day. Compulsively treestumping on D3 is not a reason he needed to be yeeted - it actually means it’s better that we didn’t waste a cycle killing him right before he died for free.

Dunno, the way you phrased it sounded like you were looking for a role that would want to live until D3. And getting zenge out earlier would have forced (one of) the other mafia to be the one to kill, plus would mean one less mafia voice for strategizing, and less WIFOM for village to wade through today (though he hasn't been doing too much of it).

 

[JustPaws]

AM are you there

 

[WildZoo]

Wow, y'all didn't take my early close threat seriously

 

[JustPaws]

Wow, y'all didn't take my early close threat seriously

I do but I was hoping to discuss vis versus cray first because I am conflicted.

 

[JustPaws]

If AM is frozen I guess I have to vote cray and hope vis is not the mafia and that she also opts to vote cray or we lose cuz I was voted first so no tie

 

[JustPaws]

If AM is frozen and I vote vis, shes not going to vote herself and cray seems set on me so we lose there too

 

[Crayola227]

I seriously haven't been checked into the game enough to figure out all the ins and outs for a fake claim. I'm not that smart. If I was mafia wouldn't I have invested more into a claim better than Sunny's discard? Also I would have had mafia pack chat and Zenge to help me with it, and Zenge could definitely have figured it out.

Maybe that's not a compelling argument.

I don't know how to make a case for me being village and people have a hard time with my meta on the best of days except for what is my NAI style points.

Sunny and Zenge have been good at recognizing some traits of mine I think are more AI. Obviously Zenge doesn't help this game with that, except he made sure the points he made about my meta were true. He knew I would correct him and scum read him otherwise.

Sunny was village and she read me right. From what I can see she seems to understand me and my style better than anyone.

I also thought Midwife was pretty decent at reading me but I can't speak for her.

 

[JustPaws]

Or vis is right and my death doesn't matter cuz vis and cray shot each other and village wins anyways

 

[Crayola227]

If AM is frozen and I vote vis, shes not going to vote herself and cray seems set on me so we lose there too

I can move, but it's hard to move off someone voting me.

I have you scummy as heck, but the wifom that Visc is playing me like Sunny did in England (just be more agreeable with me compared to someone else when you wolf and you're safe from me voting you) is not the way I want to lose, either.

 

[JustPaws]

@Animal Midwife are you there

 

[JustPaws]

@WildZoo who would you vote if you could cote

 

[Viscernable]

Dunno, the way you phrased it sounded like you were looking for a role that would want to live until D3. And getting zenge out earlier would have forced (one of) the other mafia to be the one to kill, plus would mean one less mafia voice for strategizing, and less WIFOM for village to wade through today (though he hasn't been doing too much of it).

I was specifically looking for abilities that activate N2 or D3 that would be useful for mafia, werewolf, or antivillage 3p/would be harmful to village.

I guess I just don’t see that as particularly useful for mafia/detrimental to village, when compared to the chance for village to use the D2 on a threat who wasn’t destined to die the next day. Especially the forcing someone else to kill part. Sure, small chance they’re tracked, but idek if there’s any tracker or watcher roles that haven’t been bastardized into uselessness in this setup.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife is there a role that is unvotable?

I think there's an unlynchable, but I swore it was village. I also have no mechanical proof that anything but a mafia exist. I just like to think of worst case scenarios.

 

[JustPaws]

I think there's an unlynchable, but I swore it was village. I also have no mechanical proof that anything but a mafia exist. I just like to think of worst case scenarios.

Well vis is the only one pushing 2 more scum so what do you think about that?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well vis is the only one pushing 2 more scum so what do you think about that?

I thought it was a worst-case scenario thing.

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo who would you vote if you could cote

I'm not sure and I'm also not sure it matters. I haven't had major pings from anyone alive here and there are huge chunks of posts I haven't read.

I think your activity here and vote on zenge d2 looks good, so I'd be between vis and cray I think, but that doesn't really help you lol

 

[JustPaws]

I'm not sure and I'm also not sure it matters. I haven't had major pings from anyone alive here and there are huge chunks of posts I haven't read.

I think your activity here and vote on zenge d2 looks good, so I'd be between vis and cray I think, but that doesn't really help you lol

Welp

 

[JustPaws]

@Animal Midwife do you just want me to make a decision?

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife do you just want me to make a decision?

i guess

 

[JustPaws]

@viscare you voting me or cray. Time to pick a side