A Surprise, Mysterious, Supernatural, Murder by Death, Twisted WW Game

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Nohika, I'm only giving the information I have been told. You can decide to trust it or not.

I think my actions in the game speak for themselves... I pushed a Trematode lynch, abbers defended Trematode. I have mod write ups backing up my actions.

I can promise I'm not a wolf... To me it is between rojo and abbers. I picked one.

Up to you to evaluate the game and decide for yourself.

It is 2AM my time so I need to get to bed here. I already said I'm not going to beat this into the ground.

I believe we are at end game. We each need to make a decision, it is up to you what you think.
 
You have lynched Abbercadaver. All I will say is the game is not over. Her color is white for now... which means the mods don't want to give ANY information (look very hard for her in the backyard):laugh:

It is Night 15. Get your PMs in.

There are 4 players left.

The basement
nohika
LIS
Rojo
DVMD

The Backyard
Abbercadaver

The Guest room
SOV's Study
The Master Bedroom
The Dining Room
The Great Room
The Kitchen
<vacant>

Crematorium
Nstarz
TwelveTigers
Sheepdogpoo
SwingnSave
FFM
Trematode
PetPony
Orcagirl
Allieh
cuitlamiztli
Foxhunter
wolfspeaker
WTF
Alors
SnS
ksmi117
jriddle7
hedgie
Philliab
JDH71
escalla
MrsSOV
Lupin21
Dwin
Orca2011
Jamr0ckin
Kakurubird
wildcatj
Devyn
Wldlfstdnt
Tropictuco
that redhead[
Dyachei, the faerie queen
EquineConstant

Real Life
Krist
FancyMyLotus (FML)


Hell
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Good job, guys. 😡

Maybe since some of you are wolves...I can get my ability activated.

Maybe??
 
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Crap. Sorry. And I take that as a no? 🙁

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As I put you in the backyard in the writeup and did not cremate you, you are still a ghost... You are allowed to strategize and to vote (although it will NOT count in any way... just a form of strategy)..

Please see your PM for more details..
 
THis will not finish until the morning..

LIS is not around.
jojo is at dinner.
and DVMD is going to sleep.
Nohika is at work..

Tune in tomorrow.

GET your PMs in, so we can move to the lynch in the morning..

Good night all.
 
THis will not finish until the morning..

LIS is not around.
jojo is at dinner.
and DVMD is going to sleep.
Nohika is at work..

Tune in tomorrow.

GET your PMs in, so we can move to the lynch in the morning..

Good night all.

I'm not?
 
You have lynched Abbercadaver. All I will say is the game is not over. Her color is white for now... which means the mods don't want to give ANY information (look very hard for her in the backyard):laugh:

It is Night 15. Get your PMs in.

There are 4 players left.

The basement
nohika
LIS
Rojo
DVMD

The Backyard
Abbercadaver

The Guest room
SOV's Study
The Master Bedroom
The Dining Room
The Great Room
The Kitchen
<vacant>

Crematorium
Nstarz
TwelveTigers
Sheepdogpoo
SwingnSave
FFM
Trematode
PetPony
Orcagirl
Allieh
cuitlamiztli
Foxhunter
wolfspeaker
WTF
Alors
SnS
ksmi117
jriddle7
hedgie
Philliab
JDH71
escalla
MrsSOV
Lupin21
Dwin
Orca2011
Jamr0ckin
Kakurubird
wildcatj
Devyn
Wldlfstdnt
Tropictuco
that redhead[
Dyachei, the faerie queen
EquineConstant

Real Life
Krist
FancyMyLotus (FML)


Hell
DocEspana
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I really hate you right now mods. I mean, very well played, but just know that this is painful.


Btw, if we didn't just kill a wolf, how could the game not be over if we are convinced there were 2 wolves. The mods were clear to me. 2 items, wolves had one, villagers had one. Dvmd or abbers, 50/50 shot...
 
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THis will not finish until the morning..

LIS is not around.
jojo is at dinner.
and DVMD is going to sleep.
Nohika is at work..

Tune in tomorrow.

GET your PMs in, so we can move to the lynch in the morning..

Good night all.

Night closed .... results pending.

Apparently LIS was around.
And Jojo came back from dinner.
And DVMD is an insomniac.
And Nohika does come home from work from time to time.
 
The last night of this crazy game is actually quite pedestrian. It doesn't really matter who the wolves kill, or even if their kill was successful, because in the end, the Day 16 lynch was always going to decide the game.

But, people still sent in all of their PMs and got sent back all of their info, we shall see if any of that info turns out to be helpful or not.

Oh yeah, LIS was killed, for the 3rd time in the game, this time the guilty party is the wolf, not foxhunter, and not the mods. Variety in death is very important. But the king is never really dead.... and in his honor EVERY POST by EVERY PERSON, Living, dead, cremated, or even in hell MUST HAVE AN ELVIS picture, gif or MEME in it. No votes will be accepted without an elvis reference.

So here is mine to set the mood...
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It is Day 16. Lynch the wolf?
Reminder: The dead's votes do not count, not in any way, shape or form. Sorry.

There are 3 players left.

The basement
nohika
Rojo
DVMD

The Backyard
Abbercadaver
LIS

The Guest room
SOV's Study
The Master Bedroom
The Dining Room
The Great Room
The Kitchen
<vacant>

Crematorium
Nstarz
TwelveTigers
Sheepdogpoo
SwingnSave
FFM
Trematode
PetPony
Orcagirl
Allieh
cuitlamiztli
Foxhunter
wolfspeaker
WTF
Alors
SnS
ksmi117
jriddle7
hedgie
Philliab
JDH71
escalla
MrsSOV
Lupin21
Dwin
Orca2011
Jamr0ckin
Kakurubird
wildcatj
Devyn
Wldlfstdnt
Tropictuco
that redhead[
Dyachei, the faerie queen
EquineConstant

Real Life
Krist
FancyMyLotus (FML)


Hell
DocEspana
 
So what dead person gained there power last night?

Listen, this is simple for me. #### lynch nohika ####

If dvmd turns out to be a wolf, I sincerely think she doesn't know it. The only way I am a wolf is if I don't know it. So it's either nohika or bust at this point. There will be no waffle from me.
 
Or if I am misunderstanding, let's return nohika back to sender (my Elvis reference in lynching her)
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Yes, I'm reusing the picture... Very fitting for you duck faced prevets
 
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Why are those two in the Basement and not completely dead? Hmm.

Um. So I really don't know who to vote for.

I think I'm going to lynch DVM. Because Rojo gave us abbers, and I know the last wolf isn't me.
 
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Why are those two in the Basement and not completely dead? Hmm.

Um. So I really don't know who to vote for.

I think I'm going to lynch DVM. Because Rojo gave us abbers,. and I know the last wolf isn't me.

They are in the backyard and dead.

If we believe abbers is a wolf, then dvmd is a villager, plain and simple. Only way for dvmd to be a wolf is if abbers was a villager, and if abbers was a villager than the 2 wolves left was a lie, and no one believed that not to be the case. nohika, you ain't nothing but a hound dog, and it's time to prepare like this meme
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They are in the backyard and dead.

If we believe abbers is a wolf, then dvmd is a villager, plain and simple. Only way for dvmd to be a wolf is if abbers was a villager, and if abbers was a villager than the 2 wolves left was a lie, and no one believed that not to be the case. nohika, you ain't nothing but a hound dog, and it's time to prepare like this meme
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Or you could be lying.

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unlynch DVM, lynch rojo
 
Oh yeah, LIS was killed, for the 3rd time in the game, this time the guilty party is the wolf, not foxhunter, and not the mods.

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So, discounting things like chaos/independent categories of players, is that the first time a single player has been killed separate times by villagers, wolves, and mods all in the same game? 🙂

G'luck villagers.

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I think you can close it sov, I don't think there is going to be any waffles for breakfast.

Elvis has eaten them all
 
I think you can close it sov, I don't think there is going to be any waffles for breakfast.

Elvis has eaten them all

I am waiting for abbers to report on her investigation last night.. And I don't listen to people without elvis gifs.

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I am waiting for abbers to report on her investigation last night.. And I don't listen to people without elvis gifs.

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while intrigued, since most of us are convinced that we lynched a wolf when we lynched abbers, I know for me her investigation won't sway my vote.

I'm eagerly awaiting this write-up.

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So, we are on to the end-game. 3 players with very different strategies to profess their innocence. Let us examine each one in turn.

First we have DVMDream, who admitted she is a werewolf early in the game, said she lost her role and the mods backed her up, and everyone just accepted that. Accepted it without question. LOL. I am going to try that next game. "My role is wolf, but it is ok, I am reformed". Ha ha ha. Her role was to attack people. What does that make you? She did a masterful job of that "Are they a wolf or a werewolf?" questioning for a while, then didn't even bother... I guess it is true, if you tell a big lie and repeat it over and over you will believe it and others will too. Snaps to DVMDream who made it to the end-game on that strategy. Once in the endgame she came up with the "I swear on my kitty" defense. Interesting.. Always tough to know how far someone will take a defense. I ask you this; "Would DVMD come up with a defense that could be used to find out her wolfiness in every subsequent game?" You really think so? All you would have to do is ask her "Do you swear on your kitty?" If no, then lynch her, if yes, then trust her. No I would not be buying what she is selling if I were in your shoes. Shame on you DVMD, I swear on my IGs I wouldn't do that.

Next we have DrJojo. He had a plain villager role alias all game long. Kept on spouting information about what was going on as if it came from the mods.... No one questioned whether that info could have come from the wolves as well. It was all really vague. But he seems a likeable chap... Plus he had that whole "I wouldn't betray my honesty just to win a WW game" line. Now that is the absolutely biggest pile of rubbish I have ever seen in WW. If there is a player who is not willing to sell out everything as a wolf, then I absolutely would never want to play with him, especially as a wolf.. I would just throw him under the bus Day 1, because that is a lousy wolf, easily spotted, so might as well gain some cred by killing him. Is that the player Dr.Jojo is? I mean, basically either the wolves throw him under the bus right away, or wolves will kill him right away because he will have no future as a wolf. That just sounds like an inexperienced wolf to me. That will NOT fly Jojo.... think up a better line in the future.. Some of us aren't as naive as you.

And finally we have Nohika. Her "strategy" the whole game has been. "I'm busy". Somehow that has worked all game long. Her endgame strategy is just "why me?". So simple, yet so elegant. Her role is apparently to guess, I mean determine, who is supernatural. Not too hard in a game when everyone is supernatural. This is the "I have no defense", defense. And it got her here, so how can we argue against it. It is the reason we lynch the quiet ones all the time... but not this time it seems... and not until the very last lynch.

Now to the question some of you at least must be asking: "Is there a twist?". It can't really just be 2 villagers trying to figure out who is the wolf amonst them. It just can't. Can it?

So what was this all about? Do you guys even have a clue yet? Who were the wolves? Why were they wolves? Are there any wolves? How is it going to end with these last 3 players? I love asking questions, but I am not so excited about giving answers, but I guess I owe it to you all to answer them finally... Well this game was (mostly) about the occult. Villagers were pretty much given a role in the occult. Some of you were "real" occultists who could figure stuff out, and some of you were "fakers" or frauds and got lousy information as you would expect. I mean, astrology, come on DocE. Were you really going sit there and insist your results were reliable as an astrologist, especially when everyone is telling you you are wrong. SMH..... There were also some occult creatures for fun out there. So your capabilities were awfully dodgy, but what about the wolves. Well of course the wolves are the ones that oppose the villagers, and that is the doubters, or the people who used occult for their own gain and admitted it. So, for example, Dana Scully, protagonist on the x-files, but an opposer of the practitioner. So that my friends is quite simply what this was all about. Oh, there were a few screwball roles thrown in there for confusion (Elvis, nobody, tall man)... but actually Elvis was about reincarnation, and noboby and tall man could have been transformed if attacked by a werewolf, so there was some madness to the mayhem.. Or something like that.

Plain Jane ending. No twist. 2 villagers and a wolf. The twist is no twist. Now if Dyachei were still alive, that would have been a different ending, but she, alas, did not make it.

I guess it is time for the reveal...
DVMDream is the werewolf. She attacks people each night trying to convert them.
Dr.Jojo is Jonny Smith, Postcognition, he learns a little tidbit each night after the fact.
Nohika is JB Rhine, Parapsychology investigator, learning whether someone is a supernatural practitioner or creature.

Have you guessed the wolf yet? DVMDream did have her role stripped. She did take over for NStarz, and she did get the ability to color investigate. All truths. As much as it pains me to say it though, DVMDream was not the wolf. I did not trick her. She is now, and always has been a villager.

Dr. Jojo's "I wouldn't sacrifice my integrity" as a wolf line was not BS. He really believes that stuff. He still say he has a lot to learn about wolf-dom. We shall see in the future whether he is willing to screw his fellow wolves over his integrity now that he has espoused that saccharine nonsense.

And Nohika was also a villager..... well not for long. She was converted on Night 3. She has been walking amongst you for 12 days as a wolf. She deserves props for lasting that long. I am definitely going with the "I am at work all the time" defense in the future.

Congrats to the villagers for finally finishing off the wolves... I will have more thoughts in a subsequent post. Post-mortem Doctors?

The Cast:

The Kitchen
1- Escalla Nostradamus, predictor of the future
2- kakuru Ghoul
3- FH The Ghost Killer
4- WTF Ralph Macchio, Possessor
5- Rojo Johnny Smith, Postcognition
6- wld Big Tall Man
Krist The Exterminator

The Master Bedroom
1- Alors Charlene McGee, pyrokinesis
2- Jamr0ckin Leonora Piper Medium
3- SnS William Stoughton, magistrate, witch killer and wolf
4- Orca2011 Aliester Crowley, bilocation
5- nohika JB Rhine, Parapsychology Investigator, Turned disbeliever
6- PP Dana Scully, Wolf

SOV's Study
1- dyachei Faerie Queen
2- devyn Edward Kelley, necromancer
3- Trema Dr. R. Kenneth Wilson, Wolf
4- tropic Edgard Cayce, clairvoyant
5-MrsSOV Matt Parkman, psychic
6- DocEspana Joan Quigley, astrologer

The Dining Room
1- SwingnSave George Lyttleton, seances
2- equineconstant Isaac Newton, alchemist
3- jriddle7 Edgar Allen Poe, psychic writer
4- Allie Uri Geller, Telekinetic
5- TT James Randi, Skeptic and wolf
6- Orcagirl Banshee

The Guest room
1- ksmi117 Vincent
2- wildcatj Miss Cleo, Psychic
3- cuitlamiztli Succubus
4- DVMD Werewolf => nobody => color investigator
5- Lupin Father Lankester Merrin, Exorcist => defrocked
6-NStarz Nobody

The Great Room
1- FFM Poltergeist
2- Dwin Old Ben Kenobi
3- WS Ronald Defeo Jr, Wolf
4-hedgie Adam Savage, Mythbuster
5- TRH John Doe, pyschometrist
6- Philliab Phil Taylor, Psychic Dartist

The basement
1- The LIS Elvis Presley
2 - Sheepie SOV's Maid
3 - Abbercadaver Ghost Hacker turned Evil Ghost Hacker
4 - Jdh71 Dr. Jekyl/Mr. Hyde.
FML Fex ex delivery woman
 
I just wanted to make a few comments about the game due to some grumbling from the peanut gallery. In general I think the idea of players participating in the thread after death was successful. Not 100%, but successful. I think that as the game dragged on, people who were killed earlier especially drifted away and lost some interest. In that way, the LIS rule was effective in mostly eliminating those who didn't care to bother to keep up for whatever reason. In the end though, a game of OVER 40 players is going to drag a little. I am happy it was under 2 weeks, but I prefer 10 days as the max for most WW games.

With 40 players, and wanting to give almost everybody a decent role, there is always a challenge. You can go with lots of wolves and/or lots of conversions, but that can get messy. You can make the wolves very hard to kill, but I personally do not enjoy those kind of games myself. You can give the wolves awesome powers, but I still think that the villagers are too good for that. Or you can mess with the villagers mind, which obviously is the way I like to go. For me, I gave lots of types of seers, many with partial information, and I gave a group of villagers who were going to get false results. Not exactly a new concept, at least for my games, I just made it a little more prevalent. To balance that lousy information, I gave 2 ways to figure out whose information to trust... 1) Hedgie had the ability to see the frauds. 2) The colors of the players when they were killed. Of course I made you work a little to find that out. I was a little surprised over the frustration expressed over bad results, because a number of you were saying exactly what I designed, but it seemed to get lost in the DocE/Abbers controversy, and JDH trying to (and succesfully) deflect you from thinking. It was clear from the start that there would be confusion at the start, but you guys (well a handful of you anyway) did a good job by the middle of the game sorting it all out.

The other tough part of the game was not revealing roles and affiliations directly. This was directly because the dead could vote and strategize. I needed some way for villagers to have doubts about the motives of the dead. I thought it would be too easy if everyone trusted the dead completely from the start. I was actually surprised that there was little to no discussion of who the "wolves" were voting for. They basically just voted for villagers almost entirely (with a few exceptions). I also was surprised there was so little info released by the dead for public discussion. Again with a game of dead staying around, you need to adjust things slightly to account for the game variation.

I contemplated giving the dead a greater role (more people with roles after death .. a la FH and Abbers), but that seemed awfully complicated, and more work that I can bear. As it is, for me, modding is a 23/7 activity (1 hour of sleep allowed I guess), and I don't want to make it too onerous to run.

Finally I have to mention that this is the most dysfunctional group of wolves I have ever seen as a mod or player. Many busy/quiet wolves, inactive, fighting amongst themselves, indecisive, always late with the PMs, very little discussion in their spreadsheet, very little strategizing among themselves. It was a little shocking. When they started to get picked off mid-game I wasn't surprised at all. It is just amazing that the villagers went into such a slump the 2nd half of the game. Nohika was under the radar the entire game (she was converted night 3) and abbers was a late conversion (laughing at you Doc), but somehow evaded lynch many times. I had to give the wolves back their conversion ability after SnS was killed because I was afraid the game was going to end on night 8 or something. It was that bad. On the other hand, wolves had horrible luck... Trying to convert MrsSOV when she had just investigated SnS was pretty key. If MrsSOV was allowed to be a wolf, the game would have gone VERY differently. Also converting Devyn when she was being killed by FH, and choosing EC to kill when FH was going to take her out.

Thanks to everyone who put up with the new game mechanic. A lot of you told me you enjoyed it, and I appreciate it. There were a lot of fun moments, and Lupin makes a great head wolf. I stole some of her writing for write-ups (usually adapted it to the situation).... If you have any questions... let us know.

And special thanks to Kaydubs for co-modding. She is always a breath of fresh air, and exactly the co-mod I needed to keep the grumpiness to a minimum. I don't know how anyone can do Aquavets and help mod an SOV game at the same time. That is some serious time commitment. I guess sleep is optional for her. And her faerie queen role was pretty entertaining. I love the "have to tell the truth" part. I mean, making someone tell the truth all the time in WW is downright mean. LOVE IT.

Peace out.... SOV....
 
It was a pleasure to mod with SOV. It's been somewhat of a dream of mine! This game definitely had a few kinks to work out but I was happy overall with the results. To all the players, thanks for a fun game!!

Thanks, SOV, for a really awesome game. It was a fantastic experience and if you ever need a co-mod (I'll try to be more involved next time!), you know where to find me!!

And, for your viewing pleasure: Googledoc
 
FYI... JDH was not affiliated with the other wolves.... although when we resurrected him with LIS, we let him join the wolves for strategy.

The game would have been a lot different (at least at the beginning) if Doc's random wolf number came up zero instead of two when he investigated the basement.
 
lol.

we shall see how things go in the future. First I have to establish credibility, then I can bluff... gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them.

Or if it devolves into that, well, you can always find someone else to play in these games... I think its one thing for someone to volunteer it, its another to blackmail them with it. :shrug: we shall see. It's a cutthroat game, but I'd like to think there is sometimes honor among thieves.

SOV, you really had me doubting if I was randomly a wolf by the end. Me and DVMD were pming back and forth swearing that we would be super pissed and curse you out if we secretly turned up to be wolves....

The game started out very frustrating. I didn't think the mechanic was working. But, I gave it time, and eventually things became a bit clearer, and cleaner.

I'd like to thank everyone who blindly trusted me in the beginning of the game. I'm shocked there wasn't a wolf among you. By the end of like night 2/day 3, I was in communication and/or knew about Escalla, Foxy, Abbers, WTF, and Dyachei.

And, I did honestly make a mistake when I said the wolves wanted to kill abbers. Escalla PM'd me the results of her investigation (which was that abbers wanted to wolves to kill her) and I was on my phone with my wife getting her hair did, and guess i just miss read it... all of a sudden i'm posting it on the forum, getting abbers to admit her entire role to me, and causing all sorts of confusion. Her fatal mistake at the end was admitting she still had the stone, cause I trusted DVMD at that point (she told me that na'vi bit a few cycles earlier) and the mods told me that a wolf had an item and a villager had an item...

well played guys.... well played. First time I was a last man standing at such a low number (i think the best I survived before was final 7 or 8 ppl...)
 
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