2004 Applicant STATS page:

[Ecks]

I wish I was superman. I just studied my ass off for the DAT. The pat part seems really easy for me, I really dont know how people struggle with it.

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[cakeface]

Undergrad Ed: Stanford
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.7
Science Undergrad. GPA: 4.0
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 23/22/20


Extracurricular/Research Activities: job, shadowing, pharm tech

Schools Applied: Harvard, Columbia UoP UCLA

AADSAS Submitted Date: june 18

Schools Received AADSAS Date: no idea

Interview Invites: All

Denied:

Withdrew Application:

Waitlisted:

Accepted:

 

[wise146]

balki i got an interview at columbia with a lower PAT score than u

 

[predentchick]

All the people on this stats page are super human freaks. Geez!!! You all should be very proud of yourselves. NOBODY gets those scores unless you're on this forum

 

[Comet208]

Originally posted by Ecks
The pat part seems really easy for me, I really dont know how people struggle with it.

This is why we call you a superman!

 

[blankguy]

Originally posted by Comet208
This is why we call you a superman!

Or maybe he was using one of those 3d glasses in the exam.

 

[busupshot83]

hot damn! this is some stiff competition!!!

better start bucking up...

 

[dmoney]

Undergrad Ed: University of Maryland
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.98
Science Undergrad. GPA: 4.0
Graduate Ed: (if applicable)
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: 22, 21, 18
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT (if applicable)

Extracurricular/Research Activities: Shadowing, hospital internship, army experience, no research, a lot of sports, clubs and community service

Schools Applied: Maryland, Temple, Upenn, Pitt, Columbia, NYU, BU, Tufts, Michigan, UConn, Howard (not sure why)

AADSAS Submitted Date: Mid July, LOR's were sent early Sept (wasn't my fault though)

Schools Received AADSAS application: Early August

Interview Invites: Maryland, Temple, Pitt, Upenn, BU, Columbia, UConn

Denied: None so far

Withdrew Application: Not yet (maybe soon though, If I'll get into my first choicce)

Waitlisted:

Accepted:

 

[shizzleDDS]

Undergrad Ed: UIC
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.35
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.35
Graduate Ed: (if applicable)
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 22/22/19
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT (if applicable)

Extracurricular/Research Activities: Predental club, Shadowing

Schools Applied: UIC, SIU, Marquette, BU, Indiana, Detroit Mercy, UMich, Iowa

AADSAS Submitted Date: mid July

Schools Received AADSAS Date: (approximate date)

Interview Invites: BU, UIC

Denied: Iowa

Withdrew Application: Indiana

Waitlisted:

Accepted:BU

 

[blankguy]

Originally posted by busupshot83
hot damn! this is some stiff competition!!!

better start bucking up...

What good will this do us? Looking at other people instead of focusing on us? It's hard trying to keep focus and sometimes the urge to beat myself(not physically) over my lousy stats great. The sad thing about me is no matter how well I do I still wouldn't me in drivers seat(as in having a decent shot at getting into dental school of my choice).

 

[arns51]

Originally posted by blankguy
What good will this do us? Looking at other people instead of focusing on us?

This will not do us a ton of good. However, it is an incredible resource for everyone who comes after us. To look at what kind of grades/DAT/etc. it takes to actually get into certain dental schools. Future students will be able to judge how much of a chance they have and where they should apply. And if they read it closely they will probably see how important it is to apply early, etc. etc.

I know I paid a lot of attention to last years stats page, and I think it helped me out a lot. And because I did I saw a lot of people with average grades getting into a lot of dental schools, thats why Im not freaking out too much by all the sweet grades on this site. However, in a couple weeks or so Ill for sure be freaking out, along with everyone else.

 

[aphistis]

Once again, the problem with the mentality demonstrated in the previous post is that it assumes, <em>a priori</em>, that the stats of posting SDNers are representative of the whole. Dental school remains a realistic option for people whose stats don't even *begin* to compare to some of the ones shown here, but without that broader context to place the SDN stuff in, people scare themselves out of success.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by aphistis
Once again, the problem with the mentality demonstrated in the previous post is that it assumes, <em>a priori</em>, that the stats of posting SDNers are representative of the whole. Dental school remains a realistic option for people whose stats don't even *begin* to compare to some of the ones shown here, but without that broader context to place the SDN stuff in, people scare themselves out of success.

don't you just love it when he busts out like that? spoken like a true alphi... the man is right: stop being scurd people!

 

[blankguy]

Originally posted by busupshot83
don't you just love it when he busts out like that? spoken like a true alphi... the man is right: stop being scurd people!

But he will have to do this over and over again to remind people that the stats posted here are of candidates on steroids

The reason for my first post is that I was getting annoyed at the stats posted on this board(no offense to the great applicants) and that it was easy for us less than ideal candidates to get hung up on those and even beat ourselves down.

 

[ShawnOne]

where is the guy who said stats dont scare people here?

 

[arns51]

Originally posted by blankguy
The reason for my first post is that I was getting annoyed at the stats posted on this board(no offense to the great applicants) and that it was easy for us less than ideal candidates to get hung up on those and even beat ourselves down.

Thats the exact problem with the stats page. Seems like all the less than ideal candidates dont post their stats. Makes it look like everybody from SDN is super sweet, which isnt the case. If everybody posted then there would be a good range of stats, and not near as many people would be scared/discouraged.

 

[busupshot83]

but you know what blank? as you said before, let's just focus on the self, not others. it makes sense... instead of stressing and making unnecessary viens pop out of the side of our heads.

let's just be like gav: he always says how he is stress-free. lately, i've been living like he has, reorganizing my priorities and living life.

 

[busupshot83]

Originally posted by arns51
Thats the exact problem with the stats page. Seems like all the less than ideal candidates dont post their stats. Makes it look like everybody from SDN is super sweet, which isnt the case. If everybody posted then there would be a good range of stats, and not near as many people would be scared/discouraged.

arns has a nice point here guys; very true

 

[blankguy]

Originally posted by ShawnOne
where is the guy who said stats dont scare people here?

SHOOT HIM!

 

[ecdoesit]

I m curious if voting is a better indicator.
A range of GPA
and a range of DAT scores.
Statistically, better.
but you wont get feedback from other people though.

 

[CaliNY]

I don't understand why people are "scared"...what is so frieghtening about simply posting stats on a page to people you will never (or at least won't know it) see in your life...of course unless you arrange to otherwise. This is a nameless, faceless board, and I don't think people should shy away from posting their stats whatever they are. Mine are certainly mediocre, however, I'm getting a few interviews and holding my own..THAT'S all I need to be scared of or worried about, not what others (who are simply stating opinions, not facts) think or react to. Anyways, at this point we've already applied, the apps are in and the are stats are what they are...might as well post it since looking on this board isn't going to make someone run out there and withdraw thier apps from schools only because so-and-so had high stats and applied to some of the schools you did so now you're not worthy... or at least I hope not.

Moral of the story: POST YOUR STATS AND BE PROUD!

Just my two cents

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by CaliNY
I don't understand why people are "scared"...what is so frieghtening about simply posting stats on a page to people you will never (or at least won't know it) see in your life...of course unless you arrange to otherwise. This is a nameless, faceless board, and I don't think people should shy away from posting their stats whatever they are. Mine are certainly mediocre, however, I'm getting a few interviews and holding my own..THAT'S all I need to be scared of or worried about, not what others (who are simply stating opinions, not facts) think or react to. Anyways, at this point we've already applied, the apps are in and the are stats are what they are...might as well post it since looking on this board isn't going to make someone run out there and withdraw thier apps from schools only because so-and-so had high stats and applied to some of the schools you did so now you're not worthy... or at least I hope not.

Moral of the story: POST YOUR STATS AND BE PROUD!

Just my two cents

Problem is, a lot of people here have probably spent most of their lives defining themselves by their superior intelligence. All of a sudden, they're here in this grad school crowd and some of them aren't the best anymore. It's just an indicator of the insecurity running amok.

Sorry guys, I did a lot of psych in undergrad, and it spills out sometimes

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by blankguy
But he will have to do this over and over again to remind people that the stats posted here are of candidates on steroids

The reason for my first post is that I was getting annoyed at the stats posted on this board(no offense to the great applicants) and that it was easy for us less than ideal candidates to get hung up on those and even beat ourselves down.

Maybe I'll put something to that effect in my signature. I'm about due for a change anyway

 

[Bickle]

Originally posted by aphistis
Maybe I'll put something to that effect in my signature. I'm about due for a change anyway

Bill,

According to the folks in the lounge, your sig is too long. An ideal sig, according to them, is 10 lines or less. Anything above that is just annoying.

 

[shizzleDDS]

Originally posted by arns51
Thats the exact problem with the stats page. Seems like all the less than ideal candidates dont post their stats. Makes it look like everybody from SDN is super sweet, which isnt the case. If everybody posted then there would be a good range of stats, and not near as many people would be scared/discouraged.

I agree 100%. If EVERYONE posted their stats I think the impression of the competition would be A LOT less intimidating.

 

[Bickle]

Originally posted by shizzleDDS
I agree 100%. If EVERYONE posted their stats I think the impression of the competition would be A LOT less intimidating.

What are you talking about??? There's a 3.0 and under club here, and lots of people posted their stats on that.

 

[comatose]

Why would people with low stats want to post their scores? All it does is make those with higher stats feel better about themselves. If I had low stats, I wouldn't post them just to make you all feel better.

 

[ShawnOne]

I think the point was that it will help make others with similar stats feel better (not alone)

But honestly guys/gals, just go to the stats thread from last year and look at the schools people got into. That should put your fears to rest.

 

[shizzleDDS]

Originally posted by Dentaldream
What are you talking about??? There's a 3.0 and under club here, and lots of people posted their stats on that.

True, but I was speaking in reference to the comments made on this thread. I don't think that everyone looking at this thread posts their stats--but if they did the stats listed might not look as intimidating.
Also, though the club is for 3.0 gpas and below, many of their DAT scores are impressive, which should make up for their gpas.

 

[Bickle]

Originally posted by shizzleDDS
True, but I was speaking in reference to the comments made on this thread. I don't think that everyone looking at this thread posts their stats--but if they did the stats listed might not look as intimidating.
Also, though the club is for 3.0 gpas and below, many of their DAT scores are impressive, which should make up for their gpas.

Agreed. Looking back, I'm glad I found SDN after I had my interviews. Otherwise my stress level would have doubled.

 

[Dr.BadVibes]

Also, though the club is for 3.0 gpas and below, many of their DAT scores are impressive, which should make up for their gpas

Exactly......but this is what u need to get in. If you have a low GPA and low DAT...sorry buddy, you aint got no chance and you should really consider alternatives and come back to dentistry when your scores are better cause you wont get any love...Yah-E who made the under 3.0 club says that people with low GPAs absolutely need high DATS, and I dont think ANYONE can dispute this.

 

[shizzleDDS]

Originally posted by comatose
Why would people with low stats want to post their scores? All it does is make those with higher stats feel better about themselves. If I had low stats, I wouldn't post them just to make you all feel better.

I think the whole purpose of this site is for information, not readily obtained anywhere else, and for help from people in the same situations. I surely wouldn't feel any better about myself because someone else on the site has lower stats. I am confident that I will eventually get in, and everybody should be as well. Bottom line--if you want to get in you'll do everything in your power to make it happen. It shouldn't make you feel any less/better about yourself by looking at someones stats, because its all up to you in the end.
I just add my 2 cents about what I can, and I check out everyone else's 2 cents to see if it helps. Thats the ultimate goal, and come judgement day, I hope everyone on the site gets in somewhere.

 

[aphistis]

Originally posted by comatose
Why would people with low stats want to post their scores? All it does is make those with higher stats feel better about themselves. If I had low stats, I wouldn't post them just to make you all feel better.

It's not about ego-stroking. It's about presenting a balanced, complete picture. If people with marginal scores aren't willing to give their information, how the snot is anybody supposed to know where marginal even <em>is</em>?

 

[NewNameForGoogleBot]

This is like closing the barn doors after the horse is LONG gone - but you guys sould get a new thread.

 

[Zurich5]

Originally posted by shizzleDDS
I think the whole purpose of this site is for information, not readily obtained anywhere else, and for help from people in the same situations. I surely wouldn't feel any better about myself because someone else on the site has lower stats. I am confident that I will eventually get in, and everybody should be as well. Bottom line--if you want to get in you'll do everything in your power to make it happen. It shouldn't make you feel any less/better about yourself by looking at someones stats, because its all up to you in the end.
I just add my 2 cents about what I can, and I check out everyone else's 2 cents to see if it helps. Thats the ultimate goal, and come judgement day, I hope everyone on the site gets in somewhere.

Agreed, I think everyone here in their own right is an overachiever, and will likely get into dental school at some point. I know a lot of pre-dents who would have no clue about the type of discussion that goes on here, let alone what the average DAT score, science gpa, and major distribution for the entering class at UT-San Antonio would be.

 

[Thaxil]

Hey, I would like someone to inform me.

Do rejection notices come before invites to interviews generally? Also, for school which do not ask for a secondary, how long after the school receives my application does it take to may a decision and notify the applicant?

 

[shizzleDDS]

Thax,

Both of your questions depend on the school to which you are applying. I would say that usually invites to interviews and non-invites(rejections) come during the same time period. However, I was rejected from Iowa, very early in the game--probably two weeks after they got my application. From what I've heard from marquette, SIU, UIC, and Detroit Mercy--they send out all letters(interview, acceptance, rejection) at around the same time.

In response to you second question, they usually notify you when they have received your application from aadsas, which is like 4-6 weeks from when you filled it out. They'll tell you then when they are likely to make decisions--but again it all depends on the school. I called everywhere I applied to get the general timeline. If you're dyin to know, I suggest callin 'em up.

 

[busupshot83]

how long can you make your sig? is there a limit?

 

[groundhog]

Look at the overall picture before you get too upset about not getting that magic 20+ on the DAT. What, maybe 900 folks at most get 20 or above on the DAT. Assumming that everyone with a 20+ DAT gets an acceptance still leaves 3000+ spots for those who get 19 and below. So lighten up.

 

[discolphie]

I guess this is right thread to ask this..rather than the other that I posted in but... here goes


Undergrad Ed: NYU
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.1something
Science Undergrad. GPA: same
Graduate Ed: (if applicable)
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 23/17 (17!!)
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT (if applicable)

Extracurricular/Research Activities:vice president, treasurer of various student clubs, community volunteering while in fraternity, worked at a couple of doctors' offices (pre-med convert), currently working full time in a prostate cancer lab, shadowing dentist at the hospital dental clinic

Schools Applied: a bunch...about 16? NYU, Columbia, UMDNJ, Boston, Upenn, Temple, UOP, UNLV, Nova, Uof Maryland to name a few

AADSAS Submitted Date: STILL HAVEN'T...hopefully by next week...trying to get it wrapped up =(

I was wondering what you people would think of my chances with these stats and with me applying this late.. I'm hoping that my PAT score doesn't stick out because I know I'm applying very late into the process (hadn't decided on the career change until recently) and I think I need the extra push because of the lateness..?

thanks

 

[flong]

Acceptances are going to be mailed out in 2 weeks. Although I do not want to say you are late, you certainly are not "early."

 

[discolphie]

sorry..

DAT: Academic/Science/PAT: 23/23/17

 

[Jo23]

Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.92
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.84

DAT: Academic/Science/PAT: 22/22/18

Extracurricular/Research Activities:
-dental school student for 4 years in foreign country
-research -"the Ni-Ti rotary crown-down technique"
-a lot of other stuff during dental school-congress/material expositions/promotional campaigns etc
-tutor + counselor in US college
-shadow dentist

Schools Applied: U.Maryland, U.Penn, Howard(withdrew from last 2 after getting into MD)

AADSAS Submitted Date: Sept 8, DAT taken on Nov. 6

Interview invites: U.Maryland, U.Penn(cancelled)

Accepted: U. Maryland

 

[Zurich5]

Originally posted by sunny2004
which schools do you guys recommend with 17AA/20PAT /16bio/15reading? I'm desperate.
I have marginal GPA

Sunny,

Answer these questions and everyone can help you a little better:

What is your state of residence? How much experience do you have? Have you done any research? Do you volunteer? Do you want to live on the west/east coast?? etc..

17AA isn't going to kill you. I would look into private schools (Ie: NYU, BU, Nova) and maybe Indiana just off hand.. best of luck.

 

[akathisia]

Undergrad Ed: UCSD B.S. Psychology
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.29
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.35

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT: 22, 24, 20


Extracurricular/Research Activities: race road motorcycles/ behavioral endocrinological research 2+ yrs

Schools Applied: UCSF, UCLA, UOP, USC

AADSAS Submitted Date: 9/2/03

 

[busdriver]

Undergraduate/Graduate School: UCLA
GPA: 3.3
Sci GPA: 3.1
major: Psychobiology

DAT (AA): 25
Total Sci: 23
Bio: 21
GChem: 27
OChem: 23
Reading: 25
QR: 28
PAT: 21

Dental experience: Dental School Volunteer (80+ hours), Denture class at UCLA (3-days...pretty fun), Dental Assistant (part-time work...but it's 36 hours a week) at a general practitioner and ortho (they're husband and wife)

Applications: 15 schools (big mistake)...dont be like me and do research about the schools first (since some mostly accept in-state). All Cali schools, U of Washington, UNLV, Arizona, Tufts, BU, Columbia, NYU, OSU, Baylor, UPenn.

AADSAS: I can't even remember...sometime in june i think...

Interview Invites: BU, NYU, Tufts, Columbia, UCSF, OSU, UCLA (alternate), UPenn

Withdrawn applications/interviews: UNLV (didn't finish 2ndary), OSU(canceling interview), UPenn (canceling interview)

Accepted: BU, NYU, Tufts, Columbia, UCSF

Denied: Baylor, Arizona, U of Washington, Loma Linda

 

[dmoney]

oh my god, with those stats and you only got four interviews??? that's insane, great job on the DAT man, woo woo

 

[futureD]

Undergrad Ed: UC Berkeley, Computer Science
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.4
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.4
Graduate Ed: UC Davis, Computer Science
Cumulative Graduate GPA: 3.5
Science Graduate GPA: 3.5

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 23/23/16

Extracurricular/Research Activities: the usual shadowing, volunteering, campus clubs, research.

Schools Applied: 23 all schools that don't have the biochemistry requirement. In hindsight, applied to too many schools but I had make the selection very quickly and submit my application ASAP

Right now, I am only interested in about 5 schools and ignore the rest.

AADSAS Submitted Date: 7/21

Invites: Maryland, BU, Temple, Upenn, Loma Linda.

 

[Aaronpsr]

Undergrad Ed: Mansfield University of PA
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.92
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.87 (Damn Physics!)
Graduate Ed: (if applicable) none
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 18/18/18
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT (if applicable)

Extracurricular/Research Activities: Phosphatidyltransferase activity of phosholipase D, and another project in the works for peroxisome extraction in plant cells.

Dental Experience: 60+ hours shadowing a combination of general dentistry, pediactric dentistry and orthodontics.

Schools Applied: UConn, Pitt, Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, UNC, SIU

AADSAS Submitted Date: mid July 03

Schools Received AADSAS Date: (approximate date) mid Aug 03

Interview Invites: Iowa, Minnesota, Pitt

Denied: received Iowa denial early Feb.

Withdrew Application: none

Waitlisted: Southern Illinois, Minnesota

Accepted: As of Dec 3. Pitt

Going: UPitt

 

[soouh]

UCLA

GPA: 3.4

DAT: 21/20/18

Applied to all Cali schools except Loma Linda and NYU, Columbia, and BU.

Interview invites: NYU and BU

Just crossing my fingers!