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Touchy, but this is understandably a touchy time of year. Note, however, that I said "unless." UNLESS you do, it would most likely be a waste of time. In all fairness, it seems the assumption was on your end.
No hard feelings-- I was not singling anyone out on this forum but rather trying to give a little balance to some of the "cult of optimism" that sometimes takes hold during this horribly stressful time of year. It is of course important to think positively, take risks, and hope for the best, but balanced self-honesty is important as well.
It is also true that there are hordes (and we're talking in the hundreds, here) of students who apply to hyper-competitive programs who are sorely lacking in the necessary credentials but then become outraged when they are rejected, some of whom border on harassing POIs over email with all sorts of questions about "why..." My current advisor has consistently served on the admissions committee and complains about this every year.
I disagree with the extreme position (again, not singling anyone out here) that there is no such thing as overreaching what may not be feasible or realistic given a certain set of credentials and background. Some applicants do hold this view.
I did notice that you said "unless" but even then I disagree with you. Please note, however, that I'm not disagreeing with "balanced self-honesty". I just don't see the cost and the time spent on a school like Yale as a waste in the overall process. But l already made that point - and yes, I get that there are some people who may not agree at the end of the day.
My main reason for responding, however, is to point out that you didn't emphasize that your concern was for those who become outraged at receiving a rejection, harass POIs, or (along these lines) experience extreme negative emotional states because of it. I think that is a very legitimate point and a great concern. I agree, people should go into these things fully understanding, realistically, what their shot is. Although, interestingly, it doesn't seem to me that anyone who posted earlier in this thread about being rejected by Yale had any such negative reaction implying that they did otherwise. And frankly, I do think that *that* advice would have sounded much differently than what you wrote earlier. Thus, I think my assumptions about what you could have been implying in your post are understandable. I simply didn't find your advice to be of a very helpful nature, especially for those who have already applied and are the main current audience of these acceptance/rejection/invite threads.
I of course understand that you were not trying to offend anyone, but telling others not to waste their time applying unless they have near perfect credentials is not the same as telling them to go into it with realistic expectations and to handle the outcome maturely if they so choose to make that choice or take that 'risk'.
So yes, no hard feelings. We can simply agree to disagree on what constitutes a 'waste of time'.