2013-2014 APPIC (internship) Phase II

[AttachmentGal]

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I am sure APPIC knows by now. I do not fully understand why match day ii is on a Monday. I doubt they will be working over the weekend on this.

I know! Telling us at the beginning of the week is the worst. At least when it was on Friday, it only required one day off and then there was a whole weekend to recover.

 

[Aussiejd]

I absolutely agree! No recovery time, you just have to dig right into the week. Monday stinks for match day. Is there a reason why they have it set up so Phase II Match Day is on a Monday?

 

[SmithPsy24]

I'm kind of in this place where I want Monday to get here so I can find out, but at the same time I'm slightly terrified to possibly have another NO coming my way. Working on lots of mindfulness and radical acceptance 😉

Man, this. A NO is a distinct possibility and I almost feel like all the support I have been lucky enough to get doesn't help. I feel like I'd be letting all those people down if I still didn't match!

I was also wondering why Phase II falls on a Monday. It seems silly because the double-checking they had to do for Phase I is not likely to happen over a weekend. Maybe it will help them move to Phase III/clearinghouse more quickly?

 

[let it go]

Good luck to everyone on Monday! Each passing day has its ups and downs as I wonder what my future holds. I think my biggest fear is opening that e-mail to find out I didn't match again. I think seeing it on "paper" hurts more for some reason. My birthday is over the weekend, too, so I'm hoping to at least enjoy the weekend! 🙂

 

[let it go]

Man, this. A NO is a distinct possibility and I almost feel like all the support I have been lucky enough to get doesn't help. I feel like I'd be letting all those people down if I still didn't match!

I was also wondering why Phase II falls on a Monday. It seems silly because the double-checking they had to do for Phase I is not likely to happen over a weekend. Maybe it will help them move to Phase III/clearinghouse more quickly?

I know what you mean about letting others down. I have had lots of support and people believing in me. It won't be fun to let them know I failed again 🙁

However, I am no longer beating myself up about this situation. I no longer believe not matching was due to being inadequate in some way. It happens to wonderful candidates and does not mean my future is doomed.

 

[JennyAnn4]

I know what you mean about letting others down. I have had lots of support and people believing in me. It won't be fun to let them know I failed again 🙁

However, I am no longer beating myself up about this situation. I no longer believe not matching was due to being inadequate in some way. It happens to wonderful candidates and does not mean my future is doomed.

I'm glad your perspective on this has changed. I have no doubt that each of us brings his or her unique skills and talents to the table and would make a superb intern. I'm sure at least one or two sites who interviewed each of us in Phase I or II thought the same thing. We are merely victims of supply and demand. We are all worthy of the positions we applied for, despite the fact that we didn't get them.

 

[ShakeyD]

Is anyone else a little annoyed by the APPIC survey emails they keep sending out. As far as I'm concerned, match isn't over yet, and I will participate after Monday.

 

[ShakeyD]

Good luck to everyone on Monday! Each passing day has its ups and downs as I wonder what my future holds. I think my biggest fear is opening that e-mail to find out I didn't match again. I think seeing it on "paper" hurts more for some reason. My birthday is over the weekend, too, so I'm hoping to at least enjoy the weekend! 🙂

Happy Birthday!

 

[psychrat]

I absolutely agree! No recovery time, you just have to dig right into the week. Monday stinks for match day. Is there a reason why they have it set up so Phase II Match Day is on a Monday?

I was talking with a friend about this yesterday and he said that the service APPIC hires to complete the Match algorithm also does the algorithm for med school match day, which it today, so maybe they do not want to do both the same day.

Good luck to everyone on Monday! Each passing day has its ups and downs as I wonder what my future holds. I think my biggest fear is opening that e-mail to find out I didn't match again. I think seeing it on "paper" hurts more for some reason. My birthday is over the weekend, too, so I'm hoping to at least enjoy the weekend! 🙂

Have a wonderful Birthday!

 

[psychrat]

Is anyone else a little annoyed by the APPIC survey emails they keep sending out. As far as I'm concerned, match isn't over yet, and I will participate after Monday.

I took it and they finally stopped emailing me. They may send out another match ii one.

 

[AttachmentGal]

I know what you mean about letting others down. I have had lots of support and people believing in me. It won't be fun to let them know I failed again 🙁

However, I am no longer beating myself up about this situation. I no longer believe not matching was due to being inadequate in some way. It happens to wonderful candidates and does not mean my future is doomed.

Right, my advisor and training director said, "Let me know. I can't wait to celebrate with you!" That seems way too optimistic to me. I asked her to open the email first and just let me know what it says, though I doubt I will have the fortitude to wait.

I'm glad you are not beating yourself up about the situation. That's a good step. I guess I'm also in the place of not blaming myself, but am still frustrated about what consequences it will have if I don't match this time around.

 

[aly cat]

I just made a big list of everything that needs to be done around our house since we are preparing to rent it out. Now when the anxiety begins to get the best of me this weekend I can remind myself that my energy would be better concentrated on washing the windows, raking the yard, and organizing the garage sale and donation piles 😉

Any fun things (or in my case, not-so-fun-but-needs-to-get-done) planned to distract yourselves this weekend?

 

[butmewait]

Is anyone else a little annoyed by the APPIC survey emails they keep sending out. As far as I'm concerned, match isn't over yet, and I will participate after Monday.

I so agree!! I felt upset at that e-mail when we first received it shortly after the match...like really I have to report to APPIC all the details of this horrible process just a couple days after I got this news and right in the middle of trying to regroup for Phase 2?? I will probably complete it after monday but have been really annoyed at the e-mails and also the bold statements about how they really need everyone to participate regardless of whether they matched despite the fact that at the bottom of the letter it says it's a voluntary survey.

 

[beebom]

I am sure APPIC knows by now. I do not fully understand why match day ii is on a Monday. I doubt they will be working over the weekend on this.

Exactly! But it's almost here.

 

[beebom]

I just made a big list of everything that needs to be done around our house since we are preparing to rent it out. Now when the anxiety begins to get the best of me this weekend I can remind myself that my energy would be better concentrated on washing the windows, raking the yard, and organizing the garage sale and donation piles 😉

Any fun things (or in my case, not-so-fun-but-needs-to-get-done) planned to distract yourselves this weekend?

Me too! But I'm also balancing that with the anxiety of renting out our house. haha. it just never ends!

 

[beebom]

I so agree!! I felt upset at that e-mail when we first received it shortly after the match...like really I have to report to APPIC all the details of this horrible process just a couple days after I got this news and right in the middle of trying to regroup for Phase 2?? I will probably complete it after monday but have been really annoyed at the e-mails and also the bold statements about how they really need everyone to participate regardless of whether they matched despite the fact that at the bottom of the letter it says it's a voluntary survey.

I replied to that survey and wrote a pretty long explanation about why this process is terrible and how they should be ashamed of the fact that there are still so many people whose lives are on hold because of the lack of internships. It might not have been the best time to respond but I needed some way to constructively vent those frustrations. But I completely agree that it's really insensitive to expect people who didn't match to regroup and write about their experiences immediately after the match.

 

[JennyAnn4]

I replied to that survey and wrote a pretty long explanation about why this process is terrible and how they should be ashamed of the fact that there are still so many people whose lives are on hold because of the lack of internships. It might not have been the best time to respond but I needed some way to constructively vent those frustrations. But I completely agree that it's really insensitive to expect people who didn't match to regroup and write about their experiences immediately after the match.

I totally agree with you on this. It is highly insensitive of them to distribute that survey when there are hundreds of us that still have a ? on our futures. As if this process could get any more demoralizing! Shame on them for being psychologists who fail to recognize the needs of others.

 

[psychrat]

Just read that 96% of medial students matched for residency. I wish we had the same stats for clinical psych. Feeling kinda jealous When will we have those kind of stats?

 

[let it go]

Happy Birthday!

Thank you!!!

 

[let it go]

Is anyone else a little annoyed by the APPIC survey emails they keep sending out. As far as I'm concerned, match isn't over yet, and I will participate after Monday.

I ended up doing it to get it over with... I guess it's concerning Phase I though?

 

[let it go]

I was talking with a friend about this yesterday and he said that the service APPIC hires to complete the Match algorithm also does the algorithm for med school match day, which it today, so maybe they do not want to do both the same day.



Have a wonderful Birthday!

Thank you!!!

 

[let it go]

I replied to that survey and wrote a pretty long explanation about why this process is terrible and how they should be ashamed of the fact that there are still so many people whose lives are on hold because of the lack of internships. It might not have been the best time to respond but I needed some way to constructively vent those frustrations. But I completely agree that it's really insensitive to expect people who didn't match to regroup and write about their experiences immediately after the match.

I noticed the most recent survey comments are from 2011.....I wonder why the 2012 and 2013 ones haven't been posted yet.

 

[let it go]

Just read that 96% of medial students matched for residency. I wish we had the same stats for clinical psych. Feeling kinda jealous When will we have those kind of stats?

I heard they also have the option of bypassing the match to find a residency.

 

[ClinPsychEnthus]

Just read that 96% of medial students matched for residency. I wish we had the same stats for clinical psych. Feeling kinda jealous When will we have those kind of stats?

possibly when we match incoming class size to demand and feasibility of attaining internships? I still think part of this is a problem on the front end.

 

[empathiosis]

I heard they also have the option of bypassing the match to find a residency.

And I heard there are 30,000 med students involved in that match ...

 

[beebom]

possibly when we match incoming class size to demand and feasibility of attaining internships? I still think part of this is a problem on the front end.

It seems like the APA is trying to work their way through professional schools (at least in my area). There have been a few places that have lost their accreditation or are stuck on probation. I don't know what it's like in other places but I've heard that there's a big push to minimize the schools and enrollment, which frankly, should've been done a while ago (from the beginning). And I feel like I can say that because I go to a professional school so I'm not just bad mouthing them. There need to be limits. It's causing a huge problem for potential interns. But the drive is coming from the insane tuition. And, as a professor I knew at a professional school once said, "just let the licensing board catch them" - I think that's the actual approach to this and it's unethical. They accept a high volume of students with the expectation that they'll make it through the program (because they're pushed through with Bs) and then will hopefully not pass the licensing exam. But the thinking is flawed because they can and do pass... and they can and do get internships. It's not the right approach to this problem. They need to be more selective to begin with.

 

[erg923]

So, that professor's logic is that, the state licensing boards are the gatekeepers of competencey in this profession?! What planet do they live on? My state board meets once a month and has 8 members!

 

[beebom]

So, that professor's logic is that, the state licensing boards are the gatekeepers of competencey in this profession?! What planet do they live on? My state board meets once a month and has 8 members!

Yes! It's so horrifying. I had to fight to get people who plagiarized in trouble with this guy. He just didn't care. (This is not at the school I attend, by the way).

 

[beebom]

Question for everyone: once Monday arrives, do we want to share results, good and bad? I have no idea how it's going to go for me but I know that it felt crappy to have to tell everyone I didn't match the first time. This space is different and I'd feel comfortable sharing that here. Conversely, if I do match I don't want anyone else to feel bad. And, we've been on this little journey together so I'd like to know how you all did. 🙂 Your thoughts?

 

[psychrat]

Question for everyone: once Monday arrives, do we want to share results, good and bad? I have no idea how it's going to go for me but I know that it felt crappy to have to tell everyone I didn't match the first time. This space is different and I'd feel comfortable sharing that here. Conversely, if I do match I don't want anyone else to feel bad. And, we've been on this little journey together so I'd like to know how you all did. 🙂 Your thoughts?

I'll be interested to see where and if people matched, but want people to do what they feel comfortable with. I will probably post either way.

 

[aly cat]

Agreed with psychrat. Everyone has been so wonderful and I want to celebrate with those who match and support those who don't. I have no idea which category I will be in, but as silly as this might sound, I felt the most support from this community after phase I than I did in real life. Not that people in real life weren't trying (they absolutely did) but they didn't know and could only imagine what this feels like.

 

[AttachmentGal]

I've been reading up on the med school match and the algorithm, which seems to be the same algorithm that they use for our match. Apparently they came up with this algorithm after medical school residency positions were far outweighing the number of applicants in the 1940s, so applicants were being given offers and then asked to decide in 24-48 hours, which was causing problems. Ironic how opposite our problem is.

 

[Aussiejd]

Less than 24 hours now! This week has gone by so much faster than the week leading up to Phase I match day, for whatever reason. I hope we all get news that turns out most beneficial for us in the long run - good luck all!

 

[CheetahGirl]

Best of luck tomorrow, everyone! Keep the faith and don't go to "Plan B" in your minds until after 10am Monday. I'm hoping they'll be some major Monday night celebrating tomorrow for some SDNers! Cheers to everyone's "reserve" strength!

 

[psychrat]

Good luck everyone! I am having very mixed feelings at this point. Don' get me wrong, I will be thrilled if I match, but if I do not, it will give me time to get some new experiences, finish my dissertation, and I wouldn't have to move so far away yet. I just keep telling myself I will be ok either way.

 

[beebom]

Good luck everyone! I am having very mixed feelings at this point. Don' get me wrong, I will be thrilled if I match, but if I do not, it will give me time to get some new experiences, finish my dissertation, and I wouldn't have to move so far away yet. I just keep telling myself I will be ok either way.

Me too! It's such a strange experience because I've been kind of panicked all this time and now I just feel calm.

 

[ChiPhD99]

Good luck everyone! I am having very mixed feelings at this point. Don' get me wrong, I will be thrilled if I match, but if I do not, it will give me time to get some new experiences, finish my dissertation, and I wouldn't have to move so far away yet. I just keep telling myself I will be ok either way.

I have been saying the exact same thing to myself. Applying next year would mean not having to move away from my fiance and dog, could finish my dissertation, and be a stronger candidate for next time around. However, with all that in mind, I will be very (insert expletive here) excited if I get good news tomorrow.

 

[InnerChild]

We can do it... almost there! Best of luck tomorrow everyone!
Regardless of what happens, I appreciate the support from all of you thus far - you all are great!

 

[DazedAndConfuse]

Just wanted to wish everyone good vibes for tomorrow no matter what the results may be!

 

[JennyAnn4]

Although this is a horrendous situation to be in, I'm glad we were all in it together! Good luck to all of you tomorrow!

 

[jz112]

Hope everyone gets a good night's sleep tonight!
Best of luck tomorrow - whatever happens, we'll be just fine. 🙂

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Best of luck to everyone.

 

[psygirl100]

Good luck everyone!!! I hope we all wake up to good news. Maybe not matching will be a blessing in disguise if that is what happens, but I am praying for everyone to match with a wonderful site!!

 

[ChiPhD99]

Also wanted to say good luck and positive vibes to everyone! You all have been great support during this undesirable process, so, whatever happens tomorrow, I'm glad I had some colleagues going through the same thing to keep me grounded!

 

[PsychInstructor32]

Fingers crossed🙂!!!!

 

[doasisay]

You have all been such an amazing source of support during this process! I'm so grateful for all of you and hope that each of us finds peace with the outcome tomorrow morning.

 

[Psychgirl305]

I can't sleep! 😕

 

[JennyAnn4]

I can't sleep! 😕

I'm trying to stay up as long as I can so that I don't wake up at 4 AM unable to go back to sleep!

 

[futureapppsy2]

Good luck to everyone going thorough Phase II. I hope you guys all get positive outcomes , because you really do deserve them!

 

[songthatneverends]

Well I have been up for an hour because I couldn't fall back asleep, then had to start getting ready for practicum. Really hoping we get our emails before I arrive at work at 8am. I can't decide if having the distraction of practicum all day is a good or bad thing. Wishing everyone the best!