2013-2014 University of North Dakota Application Thread

[WillburCobb]

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Basically what I've heard echoed is don't buy anything you're not 100% sure you'll use until you talk to medical students at the school about what they found useful/actually used. A lot of students waste large sums of money on material they never even open. Not sure if that hold true here so it wouldn't hurt to ask a current medical student.

I've talked with several 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year students at UND and have heard various things. Most don't recommend very many texts, but a few swear by them. 1st and 2nd years there are usually pretty good about selling their used texts to students behind them as well. The only 2 books anyone specifically mentioned getting were First Aid to annotate while studying and the Linda Constanzo physiology book ("fat Linda") and accompanying review/question book ("skinny Linda"); the latter more so for blocks II-IV.

 

[FrozenWilly701]

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[MTThrower]

Just finished up 1st year at UND. Did pretty well. Ignore the book list, save some dough, and in general go with the most highly recommended review books. The one I would for sure have for block 1 is Lippincott's Illustrated Biochemistry. I had never taken biochem entering last fall and this book was a life saver. Big Costanzo Physiology for Blocks 2-3, and Neuroanatomy Through Clinical Cases by Hal Blumenfeld for block four. I found book reading exceptionally helpful for those topics that were unclear in lecture. It's hit or miss depending on who is giving the lecture, probably 80% very good with no need for outside reading, and 20% you will be totally lost on if you don't do the reading. Eventually you will get a good read on yourself and know if you need to do more. With those three books, you coud probably get by. Plus First Aid for Step 1, more for linking lectures to what you're actually going to need to know come end of year two. It's also a great review the day before the test to ensure you have the big take-home points hammered in. The big thing is, find a resource you trust and stick with it the whole way through. Most review books paint a complete picture, but if you're skipping source to source, things will be organized differently and you will miss certain things. Hope this helps. Good luck and congrats on getting in.

 

[mrh125]

Is it worth applying to this school if I have a small amount of native american ancestry from north dakota although im OOS? stats are 3.62 gpa, 3.73 sci 29 mcat (9/11/9) and 28 mcat (10/7/11) CA resident

My parents always marked me as native american and white because my mom is like 1/3 Blackfoot indian or something. I thought it was bull because i'm pasty white and lots of people like elvis claimed to have native american roots, but it turns out it's actually real and I have native american ancestry from North Dakota. I just wish I would have known sooner that it was real and have more of a chance to get involved with my diverse ancestry. I'd definitely like to be a part of any native american organization in medicine, especially since i'm big on diversity, studying cultures, and love utilizing my newly-found understanding to help others. Learning my roots in medical school would be super cool as would addressing the needs of those underserved in native american communities. Worth a shot? I like the sound of this school.

 

[WillburCobb]

Is it worth applying to this school if I have a small amount of native american ancestry from north dakota although im OOS? stats are 3.62 gpa, 3.73 sci 29 mcat (9/11/9) and 28 mcat (10/7/11) CA resident

My parents always marked me as native american and white because my mom is like 1/3 Blackfoot indian or something. I thought it was bull because i'm pasty white and lots of people like elvis claimed to have native american roots, but it turns out it's actually real and I have native american ancestry from North Dakota. I just wish I would have known sooner that it was real and have more of a chance to get involved with my diverse ancestry. I'd definitely like to be a part of any native american organization in medicine, especially since i'm big on diversity, studying cultures, and love utilizing my newly-found understanding to help others. Learning my roots in medical school would be super cool as would addressing the needs of those underserved in native american communities. Worth a shot? I like the sound of this school.

Yes UND is pretty awesome, but you need to be federally recognized as Native American to apply INMED. So unless this is the case no shot what so ever. Also, IIRC from middle school ND Studies Blackfoot is not a ND nation.

 

[NoDakDok]

Yes UND is pretty awesome, but you need to be federally recognized as Native American to apply INMED. So unless this is the case no shot what so ever. Also, IIRC from middle school ND Studies Blackfoot is not a ND nation.

Man, I hardly even remember I took a ND Studies class in middle school...

If recognized as a Native American, I reckon it wouldn't hurt for OP to ask the INMED program itself, though. It sounds like the type of program they'd be interested in if viable.

 

[WillburCobb]

Man, I hardly even remember I took a ND Studies class in middle school...

If recognized as a Native American, I reckon it wouldn't hurt for OP to ask the INMED program itself, though. It sounds like the type of program they'd be interested in if viable.

UND will consider any member of a federally recognized tribe. However, OP doesn't meet the requirements to be federally recognized as Native American.

 

[WillburCobb]

Just an FYI, award packages are available to accept or decline on Campus Connection https://studentadmin.connectnd.us/psp/NDCSPRD/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/h/?tab=GUEST. If you haven't used Campus Connection before the third link under the "Menu" section (Obtain a User Account) should provide you with access to your account.

 

[omegaz]

I am applying next cycle but I have a question regarding admission.

I was born and raised in ND. After high school in ND, I went to an elite private university on the east coast. I am planning to take a gap year before applying to UND med school. For the gap year, I'll be working in Boston. Am I still considered long term ND resident (worth 100 points)? If not, I'll quit my job in Boston and come back home to my parents in ND.

 

[NDdoctor2BE]

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[wholeheartedly]

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I am applying next cycle but I have a question regarding admission.

I was born and raised in ND. After high school in ND, I went to an elite private university on the east coast. I am planning to take a gap year before applying to UND med school. For the gap year, I'll be working in Boston. Am I still considered long term ND resident (worth 100 points)? If not, I'll quit my job in Boston and come back home to my parents in ND.

On an old point sheet I have, former ND resident was like 50 points.

 

[omegaz]

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On an old point sheet I have, former ND resident was like 50 points.

Would I be a former ND resident even if I was born and raised in ND and even graduated from a ND high school?

 

[wholeheartedly]

Would I be a former ND resident even if I was born and raised in ND and even graduated from a ND high school?

Not sure. This is what I have from an old point sheet. Not sure how current it is, or how they make the distinction. I was born and raised there as well, and graduated ND high school. Did undergrad in MN, back to ND for 3 years, now back to MN. I'm banking on being former ND myself due to time in MN, but your case might be different.

Residency Status: worth up to 100 points

Long term ND resident (graduate from ND High School): ND Resident 5 years or longer: ND Resident 1 – 5 years: Minnesota resident:

WICHE applicant: Former long term ND resident Enrolled Member, federally recognized Indian tribe (INMED)

100 points 75 points 50 points 50 points 100 points 50 points 100 points

 

[omegaz]

Residency Status: worth up to 100 points

Long term ND resident (graduate from ND High School)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this basically means that if you graduated from a ND high school then you're a long term ND resident.

 

[wholeheartedly]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this basically means that if you graduated from a ND high school then you're a long term ND resident.

That's just it, it's open to interpretation. Might meam you need to have stayed a resident. But I don't know. Best bet would be to clarify with someone in admissions.

 

[NoDakDok]

I would assume if you graduated from a North Dakota high school and have not declared residency in another state (rescinding your ND residency) that you would receive 100 points. I've technically lived in another state for 5 years but I'm still considered a ND resident. But if you have a question that is important enough to make the difference between interviewed and not interviewed it's a good idea to follow this advice:

Best bet would be to clarify with someone in admissions.

They could respond with certainty regarding how they will handle your case. I'm not even certain how they handle the 'point system' was ever intended to be general information.