2018-2019 APPIC Internship Interview Thread

[slaney]

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You are so *fancy*!

I'm investing a lot of time and energy into these preparations to distract from the crippling anxiety around WHAT IF I DON'T MATCH TO MY #WANDSITE because that panic has already set up shop and is making itself at a home.

 

[ToneTone]

IF I match, we are eating meat. Lots of meat. Meat that costs more than what I make per hour.

If I don’t match then...probably will not want to eat much

 

[ICantStopHittingRefresh]

Got to do what's right for you. But, the way I look at it, internship should be largely about setting you up as best it can for the next steps (i.e., postdoc, later career). With that in mind, I would personally prioritize training opportunities and access to postdocs over other factors. In my view, it's a year, you can endure a lot in a year, especially if it sets you up nicely for the next 40+ years of your career. Everyone is different, but my advice is always to go with the training opportunities that will give you back the most career-wise.

I've been struggling with differentiating between some of my sites and this was a very helpful perspective. 1 year vs the training/location/opportunity contributions for the rest of my career. I've heard the "you can do anything for a year" before but not in the context in which you framed it. I really appreciated this comment.

Ok folks - I know it’s going to be a little wait until match day, but what are everyone’s plans for that day???


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The partner and I are both taking the day off from all responsibilities and will be attempting to stay calm by doing fun activities all day. We haven't finished all of the planning yet...we're working on that leading up the 23rd to keep us positive and occupied. And the planning started on our plane ride back from my last interview. @slaney The very first thing we planned? Blood Mary Bar brunch. #spiritsisters

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This is so accurate. SO ACCURATE. I should probably decide on flavors and purchase those gallons in advance, huh?

Sleeping. Haha. Luckily Friday’s aren’t a day where I have class or practicum. I’m gonna open my email with my doggos next to me. And sleep and binge watch tv. I need to get back into my healthy eating/exercising routine too- I feel like

Eat healthy and exercise? I am super focused on these things. I think about them frequently, multiple times per day. The 'doing' part is where internship process has taken its toll. 😵 I could be exercising right now but here I am messaging with #forumfam instead.

I'm investing a lot of time and energy into these preparations to distract from the crippling anxiety around WHAT IF I DON'T MATCH TO MY #WANDSITE because that panic has already set up shop and is making itself at a home.

Ok, for real...#spiritsisters. I am focusing on making detailed, fabulous plans for that day because I am SUPER anxious about the outcome and I just need to claim that something positive is going to happen and I will be celebrating. If I get bad news, I'll deal with it then. In the meantime, I want to stay positive and just be excited about all of the good things that could happen on match day. And if I get good news, then I'll have an entire day of celebrating already planned out and ready to go! 😀😀

 

[ICantStopHittingRefresh]

Take 2...here's a cute pupper for some happy feels as we're all dealing with the latest round of stress and/or crippling anxiety.

 

[slaney]

The partner and I are both taking the day off from all responsibilities and will be attempting to stay calm by doing fun activities all day. We haven't finished all of the planning yet...we're working on that leading up the 23rd to keep us positive and occupied. And the planning started on our plane ride back from my last interview. @slaney The very first thing we planned? Blood Mary Bar brunch. #spiritsisters

This is so accurate. SO ACCURATE. I should probably decide on flavors and purchase those gallons in advance, huh?

Ok, for real...#spiritsisters. I am focusing on making detailed, fabulous plans for that day because I am SUPER anxious about the outcome and I just need to claim that something positive is going to happen and I will be celebrating. If I get bad news, I'll deal with it then. In the meantime, I want to stay positive and just be excited about all of the good things that could happen on match day. And if I get good news, then I'll have an entire day of celebrating already planned out and ready to go! 😀😀

Hahahah, YAAAAAAAAS!!#spiritsisters I love that those who are able are planning to celebrate. Not that internship is the end all be all, AND it is a big moment we've worked hard for and invested a lot of time and energy (and dollars, LAWD have mercy 😱) in. I'm excited to celebrate with my internship-mates and the people in my program and hope that everyone in the #forumfam can find ways to celebrate as well 🙂

Making detailed and fabulous plans for the day is literally the only way for me to function right now hahah. I like how you put it: regardless of the outcome, you'll have a day full of fun festivities to mark the moment. (And lots of alcohol.) As for me, I hold this gif as #goals for how I'd like the evening to go

 

[LizLemonIsMySpiritAnimal]

Hahahah, YAAAAAAAAS!!#spiritsisters I love that those who are able are planning to celebrate. Not that internship is the end all be all, AND it is a big moment we've worked hard for and invested a lot of time and energy (and dollars, LAWD have mercy 😱) in. I'm excited to celebrate with my internship-mates and the people in my program and hope that everyone in the #forumfam can find ways to celebrate as well 🙂

Making detailed and fabulous plans for the day is literally the only way for me to function right now hahah. I like how you put it: regardless of the outcome, you'll have a day full of fun festivities to mark the moment. (And lots of alcohol.) As for me, I hold this gif as #goals for how I'd like the evening to go

I’m hoping to channel Ron in that gif on 2/23. But in all seriousness I’m planning a happy box and a sad box a la Michael in the office. Both of which will contain alcohol, snacks, and my bestie. Feeling good about that happy box though.. counting on champagne and heels come 2/23!

 

[OpalinePhoenix]

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOT HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

 

[affectiveH3art]

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOW HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

Oh my goodness!!! This sounds like something I would dream! In contention???? Lol


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[ICantStopHittingRefresh]

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOW HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

😆 I laugh because I'm so glad this wasn't MY nightmare. That sounds horrible!!!

 

[justpeachy_2019]

You all are keeping me very entertained and delightfully distracted during what has turned out to be a more stressful time than I had anticipated! I love the support network we have created on here 🙂

I want to preface this by saying I am meeting with several mentors this week to discuss rankings and am having ongoing discussions with partner and family, but am having a really hard time with ranking my top three sites, so any feedback and thoughts are welcome!! I did not have the #wandsite feeling at any site (I'm so happy for those of you that did!). I think that this is in part due to the fact that I am pretty research focused and want a research career and don't love doing clinical work (even though I love discovering new information to help inform our treatments!). Here are my thoughts on the three sites that I liked most:

One site has a lot of excellent DBT training, opportunities to work with children and year-long exposure to a specific population (these things make clinical work a lot more tolerable for me). Research-wise, the site would support my writing a grant to stay on as a post-doc (and has successfully funded folks!) and has research that is in line with my own. Interns here were super happy. The problem is that even though the location is AMAZING, it is far from where my partner wants to be and far from family, and it would be hard for him to move there job-wise. Minor issues are that there is no dedicated research time (though the clinical load is less here than other sites, so I'd have time on my own, and previous interns have done research while there) or funds provided to attend a research conference.

Another site has a full research day (EIGHT full hours!!) all year long. I would have weekly meetings with a research mentor who told me that they would support my writing a grant to stay on for post-doc and would have soft money to fund me if I didn't get the grant immediately. The site also has existing research opportunities that fit well with my research interests (though they are outside of my specific population) and would provide some funding for me to attend a research conference. The site also starts later than most, which for me means that I would definitely be able to get my dissertation done before I leave AND would likely be able to submit the post-doc grant for the summer deadline before even starting. This site has child training opportunities and the location would work well on a personal level with my partner and our families (the city is also beautiful and I would be happy to live there). Interns here were also super happy. The cons are that there is no DBT training and I would only get to spend one day per week for 6 months with the specific population. In addition, there are not as many opportunities to expand my research network here as it pertains to my passion population (e.g., there are not many people who study my specific "thing") and I worry what implications that might have for my career.

The third site was the one that I thought would be my #wandsite. Clinically, I would receive year-long exposure to the specific population and gain complementary experiences to the specific population, as well as the opportunity to work with children year-round and get more training in DBT and other third-wave behavioral therapies. Research-wise, I can do a 6-month research rotation (8 hours per week) - but for only one semester - and there are research opportunities that are in line with my goals. The site also fully funds attendance to one conference. Personally, the site is in my favorite US city and is do-able for my partner and close-ish to our families. Finally, interns here were also super happy (an important thing for me and a common thread with my three sites). The major con is that they would NOT support my writing a grant to stay for a research post-doc AND there are no built-in post-doc opportunities there for me - which is a big change from the past for this site. Had this information not changed, I would likely be ranking them as #1. I should note that they do support interns in helping to find post-docs at other places, but I was very much hoping to stay at this site for post-doc if I matched, so learning this new information was really disappointing. The workload here would also make writing a grant for a post-doc at another institution difficult.

Any thoughts/feedback are very welcome, especially since you all are an objective audience (even if you don't know me personally). Thanks #forumfam!

 

[ToneTone]

Confession time: yesterday I watched Fifty Shades of Grey to turn off my anxious brain. I made my poor boyfriend join me for the bad cheesy acting.

If I don't match, I'll go watch the last movie in theaters. I like to feel low all at once.

 

[ToneTone]

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOT HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

As someone who has had the pleasure of meeting the one and only OpalinePhoenix at two interviews, I'm pretty sure your dream should have looked more like "Phoenix: #Wandsite!" 😉

But seriously, your subconscious is way more articulate and fancy than I am.

 

[slaney]

I’m hoping to channel Ron in that gif on 2/23. But in all seriousness I’m planning a happy box and a sad box a la Michael in the office. Both of which will contain alcohol, snacks, and my bestie. Feeling good about that happy box though.. counting on champagne and heels come 2/23!

I LOVE the idea of a happy and sad box!!! And personally, I think champagne and heels on February 23rd are a solid plan regardless of the outcome! Speaking of heels, my bomb-ass pumps should be in tomorrow and I'm SO EXCITEDDDDD

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOT HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

I've been binge watching a lot of Law and Order: SVU and all I could think when I read about your dream was ADA Barba reading "In contention" (similar to objection? idk) and honestly, I'm not mad at that because I find Barba quite attractive (those suspenders, y'all 😍). BUT, I can only imagine how unpleasant that dream must have been and I hope that's the last of the Match-induced-nightmares! Also, apparently the envelope thing is how they do it in medical residency. I have a friend who just finished her OBGYN interviews and apparently they find out if they match on a Monday and then on Friday have a ceremony where they go up on stage and open an envelope and read their results in front of an audience. If that is not a walking freaking nightmare, I don't know what is. 😱😱😱

Confession time: yesterday I watched Fifty Shades of Grey to turn off my anxious brain. I made my poor boyfriend join me for the bad cheesy acting.

If I don't match, I'll go watch the last movie in theaters. I like to feel low all at once.

New favorite post of this entire 136 page thread. I love this so much, I can't even 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[slaney]

You all are keeping me very entertained and delightfully distracted during what has turned out to be a more stressful time than I had anticipated! I love the support network we have created on here 🙂

I want to preface this by saying I am meeting with several mentors this week to discuss rankings and am having ongoing discussions with partner and family, but am having a really hard time with ranking my top three sites, so any feedback and thoughts are welcome!! I did not have the #wandsite feeling at any site (I'm so happy for those of you that did!). I think that this is in part due to the fact that I am pretty research focused and want a research career and don't love doing clinical work (even though I love discovering new information to help inform our treatments!). Here are my thoughts on the three sites that I liked most:

One site has a lot of excellent DBT training, opportunities to work with children and year-long exposure to a specific population (these things make clinical work a lot more tolerable for me). Research-wise, the site would support my writing a grant to stay on as a post-doc (and has successfully funded folks!) and has research that is in line with my own. Interns here were super happy. The problem is that even though the location is AMAZING, it is far from where my partner wants to be and far from family, and it would be hard for him to move there job-wise. Minor issues are that there is no dedicated research time (though the clinical load is less here than other sites, so I'd have time on my own, and previous interns have done research while there) or funds provided to attend a research conference.

Another site has a full research day (EIGHT full hours!!) all year long. I would have weekly meetings with a research mentor who told me that they would support my writing a grant to stay on for post-doc and would have soft money to fund me if I didn't get the grant immediately. The site also has existing research opportunities that fit well with my research interests (though they are outside of my specific population) and would provide some funding for me to attend a research conference. The site also starts later than most, which for me means that I would definitely be able to get my dissertation done before I leave AND would likely be able to submit the post-doc grant for the summer deadline before even starting. This site has child training opportunities and the location would work well on a personal level with my partner and our families (the city is also beautiful and I would be happy to live there). Interns here were also super happy. The cons are that there is no DBT training and I would only get to spend one day per week for 6 months with the specific population. In addition, there are not as many opportunities to expand my research network here as it pertains to my passion population (e.g., there are not many people who study my specific "thing") and I worry what implications that might have for my career.

The third site was the one that I thought would be my #wandsite. Clinically, I would receive year-long exposure to the specific population and gain complementary experiences to the specific population, as well as the opportunity to work with children year-round and get more training in DBT and other third-wave behavioral therapies. Research-wise, I can do a 6-month research rotation (8 hours per week) - but for only one semester - and there are research opportunities that are in line with my goals. The site also fully funds attendance to one conference. Personally, the site is in my favorite US city and is do-able for my partner and close-ish to our families. Finally, interns here were also super happy (an important thing for me and a common thread with my three sites). The major con is that they would NOT support my writing a grant to stay for a research post-doc AND there are no built-in post-doc opportunities there for me - which is a big change from the past for this site. Had this information not changed, I would likely be ranking them as #1. I should note that they do support interns in helping to find post-docs at other places, but I was very much hoping to stay at this site for post-doc if I matched, so learning this new information was really disappointing. The workload here would also make writing a grant for a post-doc at another institution difficult.

Any thoughts/feedback are very welcome, especially since you all are an objective audience (even if you don't know me personally). Thanks #forumfam!

Glad that the #forumfam continues to be effing awesome and can continue to be a support to you and others while we move into the ranking phase! I don't have a partner or a family which has certainly freed up a lot of degrees of freedom for me, and my heart goes out to all of y'all who have yet ANOTHER thing to consider when making decisions! Seriously, I can't imagine the thought of being away from a family or husband/wife even for just a year, so please know all of y'all in that boat continue to awe and inspire me 🙂

For me, when it comes to rankings, I've been trying to consider both the long and short side to things. So both 'will this site continue to motivate and excite and teach me over this next year?' AND 'is this site going to set me up for the next step of my career with postdoc and then an actual, like, job (which is so exciting, I can't even....looking at you, (hopefully) livable wage!)?' It sounds like that's where your head's at too, so I don't know that I have much to offer you aside from validation. It seems like one thing that's really tough about your current dilemma is that, for clinical work, there are some pretty specific things that light your soul on fire and that you're having to reconcile those experiences with research opportunities (which is more your jam) as well as a partner (who I assume also lights your soul on fire). I wish I had a magic way to tie everything together; having to weigh through all of those important and significant factors would be overwhelming for anyone because it seems like you'll be missing out on something whichever way you go. Perhaps one thing to consider (that may help?) is the cities each site is located in, because although there may not be postdoc opportunities at each site, maybe there are suitable postdocs in the same city. That could potentially be your work-around for the sites that don't offer everything you want, but would be a better fit life-wise. And it would eliminate having to move again which I think we can all agree sucks haha

I hope that your meetings with mentors and continued discussions with your partner and family provide some clarity for you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

 

[Mega.N]

First, I met someone from the Forum on Friday at my last interview and I forgot her name because of ALL THE ANXIETY! With that said, she was super nice, and I hope she is also basking in the glow of having no more interviews....

That aside, I need help. How much did the rest of you let the attitudes of current interns impact your opinion of a site. On paper, and in the interviews with faculty I still really love a particular site, but if I account for the Debbie Downer at the interview i'm far more inclined to not rank it first. I guess what i'm asking is, how trusting should I be of this random person's opinion? She seemed pretty negative about everything in general, but I really wanted this interview to be as amazing as the last one I was at so that my ranking decision would be easy, and if she wasn't there it likely would have been...

 

[OpalinePhoenix]

Confession time: yesterday I watched Fifty Shades of Grey to turn off my anxious brain. I made my poor boyfriend join me for the bad cheesy acting.

If I don't match, I'll go watch the last movie in theaters. I like to feel low all at once.

It'll be like the anti-Christmas Prince! I think. I never did get around to watching it. Shaaaaaaame.

As someone who has had the pleasure of meeting the one and only OpalinePhoenix at two interviews, I'm pretty sure your dream should have looked more like "Phoenix: #Wandsite!" 😉

😍😍 Y'all, ToneTone was amazing and brought me lunch to one of our interviews. #forumfamstaple

I LOVE the idea of a happy and sad box!!! And personally, I think champagne and heels on February 23rd are a solid plan regardless of the outcome! Speaking of heels, my bomb-ass pumps should be in tomorrow and I'm SO EXCITEDDDDD

Also, apparently the envelope thing is how they do it in medical residency. I have a friend who just finished her OBGYN interviews and apparently they find out if they match on a Monday and then on Friday have a ceremony where they go up on stage and open an envelope and read their results in front of an audience. If that is not a walking freaking nightmare, I don't know what is. 😱😱😱

This is quite literally the worst thing. I get really stressed out by even positive attention. I think I would sink into the floor and die. Also, plz include pics of your bomb-ass pumps.

 

[OpalinePhoenix]

First, I met someone from the Forum on Friday at my last interview and I forgot her name because of ALL THE ANXIETY! With that said, she was super nice, and I hope she is also basking in the glow of having no more interviews....

That aside, I need help. How much did the rest of you let the attitudes of current interns impact your opinion of a site. On paper, and in the interviews with faculty I still really love a particular site, but if I account for the Debbie Downer at the interview i'm far more inclined to not rank it first. I guess what i'm asking is, how trusting should I be of this random person's opinion? She seemed pretty negative about everything in general, but I really wanted this interview to be as amazing as the last one I was at so that my ranking decision would be easy, and if she wasn't there it likely would have been...

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Honestly, the current interns' attitudes and opinions were a HUGE source of info for me, especially if they were someone who seemed to have a similar demeanor/similar interests to me. That said, it also depended on how many interns, and how happy/not they were as a whole. I had one interview where the interns all seemed happy, but only because they had very minimal workloads...and they were pretty unenthused about the work generally, and multiple ones of them spoke negatively about their experiences with a primary supervisor. That influenced my feelings a lot. On the other hand, there was a site where there were 6 or 7 interns, and one of them was less happy, but the others were all over the moon, and that one person impacted my thoughts less, especially because what she didn't like wouldn't be an issue for me, really. So, in summary, I'd take it into account, but also consider the rest of the context.

 

[Mega.N]

Honestly, the current interns' attitudes and opinions were a HUGE source of info for me, especially if they were someone who seemed to have a similar demeanor/similar interests to me. That said, it also depended on how many interns, and how happy/not they were as a whole. I had one interview where the interns all seemed happy, but only because they had very minimal workloads...and they were pretty unenthused about the work generally, and multiple ones of them spoke negatively about their experiences with a primary supervisor. That influenced my feelings a lot. On the other hand, there was a site where there were 6 or 7 interns, and one of them was less happy, but the others were all over the moon, and that one person impacted my thoughts less, especially because what she didn't like wouldn't be an issue for me, really. So, in summary, I'd take it into account, but also consider the rest of the context.

Sadly one of the interns had to leave before we could talk, and the other intern was in a different track than I would be. But this one intern not only spoke negatively about her experience, but also about the other intern's experience as well. Ugh. It was rough.

 

[slaney]

First, I met someone from the Forum on Friday at my last interview and I forgot her name because of ALL THE ANXIETY! With that said, she was super nice, and I hope she is also basking in the glow of having no more interviews....

That aside, I need help. How much did the rest of you let the attitudes of current interns impact your opinion of a site. On paper, and in the interviews with faculty I still really love a particular site, but if I account for the Debbie Downer at the interview i'm far more inclined to not rank it first. I guess what i'm asking is, how trusting should I be of this random person's opinion? She seemed pretty negative about everything in general, but I really wanted this interview to be as amazing as the last one I was at so that my ranking decision would be easy, and if she wasn't there it likely would have been...

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First of all, solid Michael Scott reference. Second, I paid pretty close attention to the current interns' impressions and was pretty candid in my questions of them. I had one site where this one intern just looked MISERABLE. I felt super bad for them (because gah, that must really suck), but I did get a little more context from other interns and a postdoc that agreed you'll be busy and worked hard, and perhaps this person was more miserable due to some outside/personal factors. That helped relieve some of the discomfort around the negative impression for me. I think at the end of the day, interns' perceptions is yet another data point in a long list of data points. Best of luck to you, friend! 🙂

It'll be like the anti-Christmas Prince! I think. I never did get around to watching it. Shaaaaaaame.

😍😍 Y'all, ToneTone was amazing and brought me lunch to one of our interviews. #forumfamstaple

This is quite literally the worst thing. I get really stressed out by even positive attention. I think I would sink into the floor and die. Also, plz include pics of your bomb-ass pumps.

Right?! Like what if you get bad news? Even if it's good news, I just cannot even with the idea of going up on stage and announcing it to everyone because you won't know til you know and EEK. I'd much rather get an impersonal email at 7am while I lay in the fetal position of my bed.

Okay but really, I will basically live in these shoes til match day because they cost way more than is appropriate for a pair of shoes to cost for someone who makes the amount of money I make, so I would be happy to show y'all pics of these shoes in all kinds of settings (at Kroger, Walgreens, the gas station, taking out my trash, in my house while I wear sweatpants, etc) because by god I will get my money's worth because that is the adult thing to do.

 

[Psychchick09]

Okay but really, I will basically live in these shoes til match day because they cost way more than is appropriate for a pair of shoes to cost for someone who makes the amount of money I make, so I would be happy to show y'all pics of these shoes in all kinds of settings (at Kroger, Walgreens, the gas station, taking out my trash, in my house while I wear sweatpants, etc) because by god I will get my money's worth because that is the adult thing to do.

Please, please, PLEASE show us pictures of your Bomb-ass pumps having all kinds of adventures

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[syzergy]

Not to throw yet another wrench in the mix but keep in mind that interns might be fitting in the applicant interviews during an already packed day. I had one applicant lunch after two extremely rough patient sessions and I know I was a little off compared to other interview days.

 

[Mega.N]

Not to throw yet another wrench in the mix but keep in mind that interns might be fitting in the applicant interviews during an already packed day. I had one applicant lunch after two extremely rough patient sessions and I know I was a little off compared to other interview days.

This is what i've been telling myself since the interview. Everyone can have a bad day, and I don't know what her situation is like...

 

[justpeachy_2019]

Glad that the #forumfam continues to be effing awesome and can continue to be a support to you and others while we move into the ranking phase! I don't have a partner or a family which has certainly freed up a lot of degrees of freedom for me, and my heart goes out to all of y'all who have yet ANOTHER thing to consider when making decisions! Seriously, I can't imagine the thought of being away from a family or husband/wife even for just a year, so please know all of y'all in that boat continue to awe and inspire me 🙂

For me, when it comes to rankings, I've been trying to consider both the long and short side to things. So both 'will this site continue to motivate and excite and teach me over this next year?' AND 'is this site going to set me up for the next step of my career with postdoc and then an actual, like, job (which is so exciting, I can't even....looking at you, (hopefully) livable wage!)?' It sounds like that's where your head's at too, so I don't know that I have much to offer you aside from validation. It seems like one thing that's really tough about your current dilemma is that, for clinical work, there are some pretty specific things that light your soul on fire and that you're having to reconcile those experiences with research opportunities (which is more your jam) as well as a partner (who I assume also lights your soul on fire). I wish I had a magic way to tie everything together; having to weigh through all of those important and significant factors would be overwhelming for anyone because it seems like you'll be missing out on something whichever way you go. Perhaps one thing to consider (that may help?) is the cities each site is located in, because although there may not be postdoc opportunities at each site, maybe there are suitable postdocs in the same city. That could potentially be your work-around for the sites that don't offer everything you want, but would be a better fit life-wise. And it would eliminate having to move again which I think we can all agree sucks haha

I hope that your meetings with mentors and continued discussions with your partner and family provide some clarity for you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Thank you SO much and thanks for the well wishes! This was very validating for me and you put into words what I had not been able to yet - I will be missing out on something no matter what AND that is okay, especially if I can make the location work with my partner and family. And it would be super nice not to move again.

 

[HappyPhDHopeful]

Final interview tomorrow - my wandsite on paper so I'm extra, extra, extra nervous. I'm hoping they will reframe my anxiety as enthusiasm and 😍 me anyway. More than this, I'm hoping I can sleep tonight. #wandsite???

 

[FlygirlPhD]

First, I met someone from the Forum on Friday at my last interview and I forgot her name because of ALL THE ANXIETY! With that said, she was super nice, and I hope she is also basking in the glow of having no more interviews....

That aside, I need help. How much did the rest of you let the attitudes of current interns impact your opinion of a site. On paper, and in the interviews with faculty I still really love a particular site, but if I account for the Debbie Downer at the interview i'm far more inclined to not rank it first. I guess what i'm asking is, how trusting should I be of this random person's opinion? She seemed pretty negative about everything in general, but I really wanted this interview to be as amazing as the last one I was at so that my ranking decision would be easy, and if she wasn't there it likely would have been...

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I agree with the others who said that interns’ perspectives were super important in their ranking decisions. That was true for me with one exception. If it was clear to me that they clearly didn’t have the same career goals in mind, or they simply chose a poor fit for them,I tended to take them with a grain of salt. For example, I purposely applied to mostly psychodynamically-oriented sites, and at one site, one of the interns complained about the dynamic orientation (dude, did you even read the program brochure??) and then bragged he messed with the on-site psychodynamic therapy research he was participating in by using non-dynamic interventions with research clients. I’m not really going to give his perspective much weight when ranking because this intern went to a site that wouldn’t give him the CBT and ACT training he wanted and took up a space/ is messing around in a program that doesn’t fit him.

...anyway, I guess my point is that it’s ok to consider the individual intern when figuring out how much weight to give his or her opinion

 

[FlygirlPhD]

Also, just have to say I’m super jealous of everyone who got to meet each other at interviews. Y’all seem so wonderful, it would have been awesome to meet you out there!

 

[FlygirlPhD]

Final interview tomorrow - my wandsite on paper so I'm extra, extra, extra nervous. I'm hoping they will reframe my anxiety as enthusiasm and 😍 me anyway. More than this, I'm hoping I can sleep tonight. #wandsite???

Best of luck! I’m sure you’ll rock it! Let us know if it lives up to wandsite status!

 

[slaney]

Thank you SO much and thanks for the well wishes! This was very validating for me and you put into words what I had not been able to yet - I will be missing out on something no matter what AND that is okay, especially if I can make the location work with my partner and family. And it would be super nice not to move again.

Absolutely! Hoping you and that Wise Mind of yours can find the most effective rank list for you 🙂

Final interview tomorrow - my wandsite on paper so I'm extra, extra, extra nervous. I'm hoping they will reframe my anxiety as enthusiasm and 😍 me anyway. More than this, I'm hoping I can sleep tonight. #wandsite???

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Knock 'em dead, you baller, you!!!

Also, just have to say I’m super jealous of everyone who got to meet each other at interviews. Y’all seem so wonderful, it would have been awesome to meet you out there!

I got to meet a couple people and it was awesome! Also, I def shared an Uber with a girl after an interview and we got to talking about the forums and she goes "I'm not on there, but I've read them from the beginning and I have to know....are you slaney?!" I lol'd. My cover has been compromised hahaaha

 

[OpalinePhoenix]

Okay but really, I will basically live in these shoes til match day because they cost way more than is appropriate for a pair of shoes to cost for someone who makes the amount of money I make, so I would be happy to show y'all pics of these shoes in all kinds of settings (at Kroger, Walgreens, the gas station, taking out my trash, in my house while I wear sweatpants, etc) because by god I will get my money's worth because that is the adult thing to do.

THIS. Please update with shoes-in-weird-contexts adventures.

Also, just have to say I’m super jealous of everyone who got to meet each other at interviews. Y’all seem so wonderful, it would have been awesome to meet you out there!

I got to meet a couple people and it was awesome! Also, I def shared an Uber with a girl after an interview and we got to talking about the forums and she goes "I'm not on there, but I've read them from the beginning and I have to know....are you slaney?!" I lol'd. My cover has been compromised hahaaha

There were definitely a few people that I ran into at interviews who I secretly wondered if they were #forumfam. But I never had the guts to ask. I super wanted to know, though, and I like to just imagine I met more of y'all than I realized.

 

[justpeachy_2019]

THIS. Please update with shoes-in-weird-contexts adventures.




There were definitely a few people that I ran into at interviews who I secretly wondered if they were #forumfam. But I never had the guts to ask. I super wanted to know, though, and I like to just imagine I met more of y'all than I realized.

We definitely must have met! I interviewed at UW (Child Track) and I think you were there. I interviewed at a few other child-only sites (my hours are 50/50 child/adult but I like working with kiddos better!) out west and we may have crossed paths! You are also not alone in wondering this - I have wondered at every interview if #forumfam were there. And I had the pleasure of connecting with a few of you 🙂

 

[justpeachy_2019]

Final interview tomorrow - my wandsite on paper so I'm extra, extra, extra nervous. I'm hoping they will reframe my anxiety as enthusiasm and 😍 me anyway. More than this, I'm hoping I can sleep tonight. #wandsite???

Good luck! Sending sleepy seeds your way! (Did anyone else's parents/caregivers use the term sleepy seeds?)

 

[OpalinePhoenix]

We definitely must have met! I interviewed at UW (Child Track) and I think you were there. I interviewed at a few other child-only sites (my hours are 50/50 child/adult but I like working with kiddos better!) out west and we may have crossed paths! You are also not alone in wondering this - I have wondered at every interview if #forumfam were there. And I had the pleasure of connecting with a few of you 🙂

I was definitely there! We definitely totally must have run into each other!

 

[ToneTone]

Absolutely! Hoping you and that Wise Mind of yours can find the most effective rank list for you 🙂

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Knock 'em dead, you baller, you!!!

I got to meet a couple people and it was awesome! Also, I def shared an Uber with a girl after an interview and we got to talking about the forums and she goes "I'm not on there, but I've read them from the beginning and I have to know....are you slaney?!" I lol'd. My cover has been compromised hahaaha

Lmao, so you talk like you type?! I kept hoping I'd meet the infamous Slaney also, but I don't think any of the hints/personality traits I've gathered matched up with folks who said they were on the forum in my interviews. Happy to have met some people here and I'd be lucky to match with any of you!

 

[thisgirl]

I had my first Match dream/nightmare last night! In it, instead of getting individual emails the morning of the Match, my department had an assembly and one of the faculty read our names/matches out of an envelope, like at an award ceremony. Which would be horrific. So everyone matched, and then for me, the faculty was like, "[Phoenix]: In Contention." And I was like, WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! Did I go to Match II? Was there a problem? Wtf?! And no one could explain, and I just kept being like, THAT'S NOT HOW THE MATCH ALGORITHM EVEN WORKS.

Side note, yes, my subconscious does use phrases like "in contention." Because I'm so relateable and good at the common vernacular...so to speak. This is one of my constant struggles, and I woke up rolling my eyes at myself.

I actually met someone in med school who said this is how they find out their residency matches. People who didn’t match find out ahead of time but others hear it all together in assembly. So there are people there like crying on stage bc they got their last choice

 

[ToneTone]

I actually met someone in med school who said this is how they find out their residency matches. People who didn’t match find out ahead of time but others hear it all together in assembly. So there are people there like crying on stage bc they got their last choice

Omg. Why does it have to be a big show?? I would die. Way too shy for that.

 

[slaney]

THIS. Please update with shoes-in-weird-contexts adventures.

ALERT: SHOES ARE OUT FOR DELIVERY. So naturally, I'm at home running to my window every 5 minutes instead of on campus doing real work like a grown up. I have to leave in a bit for a meeting, but I'm trying to hold out as long as I can because I make excellent decisions about how to spend my time.

Lmao, so you talk like you type?! I kept hoping I'd meet the infamous Slaney also, but I don't think any of the hints/personality traits I've gathered matched up with folks who said they were on the forum in my interviews. Happy to have met some people here and I'd be lucky to match with any of you!

I DO say "y'all, I can't even" about once per 6 minute period, soooooo....

Omg. Why does it have to be a big show?? I would die. Way too shy for that.

But like also, what if you just didn't go? Or what if you go up to the stage, grab your envelope like everyone else, and then just BOLT and gtfo of that craziness? What would they do? Also, how has this not already happened/why have I not seen a video of this on YouTube?

 

[Internship_Journey]

So we seriously have to wait until February 23rd...? My rumination is getting old.

 

[affectiveH3art]

So we seriously have to wait until February 23rd...? My rumination is getting old.

I know! Plus having to resume to "normal life" AKA clinical work is so bleh at the moment. Like Bleh. I want to hurry up and organize moving, including packing, finding housing, a school for my little one, a daycare for my littlest one and all the in between needed to move. And it better be my #wandsite!!!!!!! Puhleeze

 

[slaney]

So we seriously have to wait until February 23rd...? My rumination is getting old.

PREEEEEEACH.

Also, as I know this is the moment all of the #forumfam has been waiting for.....

Y'all. Be still my heart. I will never take these shoes off.

edit: Clearly, I made excellent decisions about how to spend my day.

 

[Psychchick09]

PREEEEEEACH.

Also, as I know this is the moment all of the #forumfam has been waiting for.....
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Y'all. Be still my heart. I will never take these shoes off.

This is everything I wanted it to be


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[OpalinePhoenix]

PREEEEEEACH.

Also, as I know this is the moment all of the #forumfam has been waiting for.....
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Y'all. Be still my heart. I will never take these shoes off.

edit: Clearly, I made excellent decisions about how to spend my day.

Bombass indeed! I like how there is a secret shiny on the back. You're like, dang these shoes are cute, and then BAM. Secret shiny upgrading them.

 

[affectiveH3art]

PREEEEEEACH.

Also, as I know this is the moment all of the #forumfam has been waiting for.....
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Y'all. Be still my heart. I will never take these shoes off.

edit: Clearly, I made excellent decisions about how to spend my day.

Funny because I ordered shoes while traveling to interviews as well. More like a valentines gift to myself but serves as an interview gift as well. And they arrived today!!!! I’m a neuroscience geek at heart - can’t you tell???

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[Psychchick09]

Funny because I ordered shoes while traveling to interviews as well. More like a valentines gift to myself but serves as an interview gift as well. And they arrived today!!!! I’m a neuroscience geek at heart - can’t you tell???

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BombASS shoes! I’d wear those every day


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[slaney]

This is everything I wanted it to be

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tooooooooooooooo 😍😍😍

Bombass indeed! I like how there is a secret shiny on the back. You're like, dang these shoes are cute, and then BAM. Secret shiny upgrading them.

Right?!? The secret shiny might be my favorite part. I have these in black too (wore them for my interviews) and always loved the little hidden bit of bling on the back.

Funny because I ordered shoes while traveling to interviews as well. More like a valentines gift to myself but serves as an interview gift as well. And they arrived today!!!! I’m a neuroscience geek at heart - can’t you tell???

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I think we're seeing a clear pattern here: badass women treat themselves to bomb-ass shoes. 😎

 

[affectiveH3art]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tooooooooooooooo 😍😍😍

Right?!? The secret shiny might be my favorite part. I have these in black too (wore them for my interviews) and always loved the little hidden bit of bling on the back.

I think we're seeing a clear pattern here: badass women treat themselves to bomb-ass shoes. 😎

Yep badass chicks treating ourselves to bomb ass shoes! Awesome!!!!!


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[ICantStopHittingRefresh]

My countdown app says 25 days to M-Day. I started working on a list of 25 meaningful self-care activities I will do between now and then to help me get through the painful wait. Getting that overdue massage, visiting new places in my city, trying a new cuisine, restarting a simple daily yoga routine...

Buying a pair of bomb-ass shoes just made the list. #forumfamspiration

 

[slaney]

My countdown app says 25 days to M-Day. I started working on a list of 25 meaningful self-care activities I will do between now and then to help me get through the painful wait. Getting that overdue massage, visiting new places in my city, trying a new cuisine, restarting a simple daily yoga routine...

Buying a pair of bomb-ass shoes just made the list. #forumfamspiration

What an AWESOME idea! I love the idea of having a new thing to try/new way to be kind to myself each day over the next 3.5 weeks. (Sidebar: HOW is it that long?? Also, related, how the EFF is it still January?! 😵) You'd think we'd all be pros at the waiting game by this point, AND that is certainly still not my strong suit. So thanks for the awesome idea! I'm gonna create a list for myself too 🙂

Also, please update us on whatever bomb-ass kicks you end up with! Also, can't remember if you got one or not, but I still stand by the voodoo magic goodness of the acupressure mat #acunation

 

[HappyPhDHopeful]

Last interview yesterday - it was indeed a wandsite!

 

[HappyPhDHopeful]

My countdown app says 25 days to M-Day. I started working on a list of 25 meaningful self-care activities I will do between now and then to help me get through the painful wait. Getting that overdue massage, visiting new places in my city, trying a new cuisine, restarting a simple daily yoga routine...

Buying a pair of bomb-ass shoes just made the list. #forumfamspiration

What an AWESOME idea! I love the idea of having a new thing to try/new way to be kind to myself each day over the next 3.5 weeks. (Sidebar: HOW is it that long?? Also, related, how the EFF is it still January?! 😵) You'd think we'd all be pros at the waiting game by this point, AND that is certainly still not my strong suit. So thanks for the awesome idea! I'm gonna create a list for myself too 🙂

Also, please update us on whatever bomb-ass kicks you end up with! Also, can't remember if you got one or not, but I still stand by the voodoo magic goodness of the acupressure mat #acunation

I LOVE THIS!! You're starting a wonderful new trend Refresh! Thanks for the idea 🙂

 

[PsychDreams]

I logged into the NMS website today! AH IT'S REAL NOW.

Also, I agree with @slaney - how is it still January??