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Hey everyone, good luck to all you guys this cycle! My stats aren't much to brag about, I struggled academically throughout my tenure in undergrad but I wanted help coming up with a realistic list of prospective allopathic schools, I'm mainly focused on osteopathic but I DO want to shoot my shot with MDs. Here are my stats:

URM: AA, Male, 27, Maryland
Undergrad: George Washington
Major: Psychology
MCAT: 499 > 503 (124, 124, 127, 128)
cGPA: 2.8
sGPA: 3.4
Clinical Volunteering: Mental Health Helpline, Tutoring program for elementary school students
Shadowing: Family Medicine
Post-school employment: Mental Health Technician (hospital), Patient Services Rep. (private practice), Youth Counselor (group home for at-risk youth/non-profit org), Case Manager (same non-profit org), SAT tutor
Other/Leadership: Creative Director of African Student Association (3 years), Member of Black Student Union


I have Morehouse, Howard and Meharry on my list, and I just added VCU, but any suggestions would be greatly welcomed
You could add these MD schools to your application:
U Maryland
West Virginia
Drexel
Temple
Seton Hall
New York Medical College
Quinnipiac
NOVA MD
TCU-UNT
Creighton
Loyola
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Wright State
Where are you applying for DO schools ?

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Hello everyone, I posted my own thread in WAMC before finding this forum. Just wanted to post in here too to ensure that I can get as much feedback as possible. I'd appreciate any and all feedback anyone may have for my school list!

For background, I was waiting for my MCAT score before applying because I was scared that my score would be the same or lower than my last score. I'm submitting my application tomorrow for the very latest. I otherwise have everything done - LORs are in, CASPer is done and will add more schools accordingly, transcripts already verified, and pre-writing secondaries for the next few weeks in the hopes of sending them in within 24 hours of contact.

  • State/Country of Residence: Florida, Female, URM
  • Ties to other States/Regions: NYC and DC (friends currently attending medical school but otherwise, no ties)
  • Year in School: Graduated 2018
  • Undergraduate Major(s)/Minor(s): Biology, Psychology, Interdisciplinary Studies
  • Graduate Degrees (if applicable): N/A
  • Cumulative GPA: 3.81
  • Science GPA: 3.65
  • MCAT Score(s): 502 (125/125/126/126 - May 2019), 510 (127/124/130/129 - July 2020)
  • Research Experience: ~90 hours as a research consenter (current), ~40 hours drafting manuscript/literature review
  • Publications/Abstracts/Posters (include how you were credited e.g. First author, second author, etc.): 1 manuscript, 4th author (1st after med students conducting study)
  • Clinical Experience (paid or volunteer): 2000+ hours as a medical scribe/ambassador, 180 hours volunteering in a children's hospital (1.5 years), ~30 hours holding hygiene workshops and renovating bathrooms for schoolchildren abroad (also shadowed but maybe won't include because shadowing abroad isn't the greatest)
  • Physician Shadowing: N/A (cancelled due to COVID but will shadow remotely or shadow when offices are open)
  • Non-Clinical Volunteering: ~280 hours as a peer advisor (4 years), 100 hours as a peer mentor for freshman (3 semesters), ~50 hours on mental health mission trip (approx. 50 hours on actual trip, ~100+ hours organizing the trip as leader)
  • Other Extracurricular Activities: 500 hours in philanthropic fraternity (annual events, recruitment, chapters over the course of 3.5 years), 100+ hours organizing domestic mental health mission trip
  • Other Employment History: ~600 hours as a tutor for residential students, 2000+ hours as a medical scribe and current ambassador
  • Immediate family members in medicine? (Y/N): N
  • Specialty of Interest (if applicable): Pediatrics
  • Interest in Primary Care (Y/N): Maybe, haven't decided
  • Interest in Rural Health (Y/N): Maybe, haven't decided
  • Medical School List:
    • In state: FIU, UCF, USF, UM, FAU, UF, Nova (MD and/or DO)
    • Out of state: Georgetown, George Washington, SUNY Downstate, Penn State, Drexel, Colorado, Rosalind Franklin
    • Reach: Duke, Johns Hopkins, Stanford
 
Hey everyone, best of luck with your applications. Can get help on an MD/DO school list?

URM: Black, Male, NJ
Undergrad: State school
Major: Exercise Science, BS 2020 grad
MCAT: 502(126/125/125/126) taken a year ago
cGPA: 3.2
sGPA: 2.8(amcas), 3.0(aacomas)
gradGPA: starting mbs in fall, planning to send fall grades as update
Research: social science related, 350 hours
Clinical Volunteering/Experience: 40 hours in medical brigade, worked as a PT aide, 80 hours(small due to covid19)
Shadowing: 50 hours, pediatrics
Non-Clinical Volunteering: Sunday school teacher/community mentor- 4 years(500 hours), Volunteer at former convict reform non-profit- 40 hours, random volunteering at soup kitchens, retirement homes, community clean ups( around 100 hours total)
  • Resident Assistant for 2 years including summer, (2500 hours)
  • Vice president and executive board member of a minority student organization- 2 years(300 hours)
  • Minority Pre-health organization executive board member- 2 years(280 hours)
  • religiously associated student organization- executive board member for 1 year(100 hours)
  • Senior thesis on food insecurity ( 200 hours)
 
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Wow, I can't believe I'm just now finding this thread lol....I'm looking forward to following and forming community with you all!
 
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Hey everyone, best of luck with your applications. Can get help on an MD/DO school list?

URM: Black, Male, NJ
Undergrad: State school
Major: Exercise Science, BS 2020 grad
MCAT: 502(126/125/125/126) taken a year ago
cGPA: 3.2
sGPA: 2.8(amcas), 3.0(aacomas)
gradGPA: starting mbs in fall, planning to send fall grades as update
Research: social science related, 350 hours
Clinical Volunteering/Experience: 40 hours in medical brigade, worked as a PT aide, 80 hours(small due to covid19)
Shadowing: 50 hours, pediatrics
Non-Clinical Volunteering: Sunday school teacher/community mentor- 4 years(500 hours), Volunteer at former convict reform non-profit- 40 hours, random volunteering at soup kitchens, retirement homes, community clean ups( around 100 hours total)
  • Resident Assistant for 2 years including summer, (2500 hours)
  • Vice president and executive board member of a minority student organization- 2 years(300 hours)
  • Minority Pre-health organization executive board member- 2 years(280 hours)
  • religiously associated student organization- executive board member for 1 year(100 hours)
  • Senior thesis on food insecurity ( 200 hours)
I suggest these schools with your stats:
Your 3 NJ state public MD schools
Seton Hall
Howard
Meharry
Morehouse
UCLA Drew
Indiana
Wright State
New York Medical College
Quinnipiac
Drexel
Temple
George Washington
TCU-UNT
Creighton
Loyola
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Also apply to DO schools and I suggest these:
ROWANSOM
PCOM (all schools)
LECOM (all schools)
Touro-NY
ACOM
ARCOM
NYIT-AR
UIWSOM
MU-COM
WCU-COM
UP-KYCOM
WVSOM
 
I suggest these schools with your stats:
Your 3 NJ state public MD schools
Seton Hall
Howard
Meharry
Morehouse
UCLA Drew
Indiana
Wright State
New York Medical College
Quinnipiac
Drexel
Temple
George Washington
TCU-UNT
Creighton
Loyola
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Also apply to DO schools and I suggest these:
ROWANSOM
PCOM (all schools)
LECOM (all schools)
Touro-NY
ACOM
ARCOM
NYIT-AR
UIWSOM
MU-COM
WCU-COM
UP-KYCOM
WVSOM
Will do, thank you for your feedback!
 
Been alot going for communities of color especially the Black community so I just wanted to come in, check in and continue to hope for the best for all of us!!
 
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Hey guys. For all of my retakers. any tips on how to get a 502+ on the MCAT?? fourth time retaking in September. Dream school is Howard U
 
Hey guys. For all of my retakers. any tips on how to get a 502+ on the MCAT?? fourth time retaking in September. Dream school is Howard U
Honestly, the only way to increase you score significantly is by constantly doing practice problems (AAMC has the best ones, of course...UWorld has good ones with great explanations) and tons of practice tests (again AAMC has the best. After them, BluePrint. The practice tests from Kaplan and Princeton Review are a waste of time and money imo).

And the most important part is very thoroughly reviewing every single question, even the ones you got correct...just to make sure you got it right for the proper reason. But I really can't stress enough how much time you should spend just doing hundreds of questions in each section.

Don't do any content review, and only go back when you missed a question and still are struggling with the content...in which case, I recommend using the Khan Academy videos. I used this approach and despite working full time, managed to score >90th percentile (and my first take years ago was <500).
 
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Honestly, the only way to increase you score significantly is by constantly doing practice problems (AAMC has the best ones, of course...UWorld has good ones with great explanations) and tons of practice tests (again AAMC has the best. After them, BluePrint. The practice tests from Kaplan and Princeton Review are a waste of time and money imo).

And the most important part is very thoroughly reviewing every single question, even the ones you got correct...just to make sure you got it right for the proper reason. But I really can't stress enough how much time you should spend just doing hundreds of questions in each section.

Don't do any content review, and only go back when you missed a question and still are struggling with the content...in which case, I recommend using the Khan Academy videos. I used this approach and despite working full time, managed to score >90th percentile (and my first take years ago was <500).
Thank you so much!!! I am working full time as well in the hospital. My mcat is in 3.5 weeks. I was scoring around 503 but got 10 points lower on the actual exam!
 
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Thank you so much!!! I am working full time as well in the hospital. My mcat is in 3.5 weeks. I was scoring around 503 but got 10 points lower on the actual exam!
Mind if I ask how many practice exams you've taken? Also, were they under test conditions? Or did something happen on test day?
 
Mind if I ask how many practice exams you've taken? Also, were they under test conditions? Or did something happen on test day?

I took about 8-10 practice exams. NS and AAMC. And yes they were under testing conditions. I'm not really sure what happened! I took NS and retook AAMC 2 which both were 500.
 
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I took about 8-10 practice exams. NS and AAMC. And yes they were under testing conditions. I'm not really sure what happened! I took NS and retook AAMC 2 which both were 500.
Gotcha. Well it sounds like you may have just been in your head on test day. Also be careful with practice test retakes, because you will remember more from the first take than you think. But it sounds like a 502+ is absolutely within range. I'd recommend (if you can) buying a UWorld question pack and just powering through those over the next few weeks.

If timing is an issue on the test, maybe also take a couple more practice tests to work on that. For CARS, you just gotta accept that some questions will be difficult and time consuming and have the discipline to mark it and move on. If timing isn't an issue, I say just spend your time on UWorld questions. Oh, and one piece of advice for the chem/phys sections...don't focus as much on memorizing formulas, focus more on memorizing units and what different units are derived from. I cant even tell you how how many times I didn't know a formula but got the question right because I could narrow down the answers by looking at the units in the different answer choices. Good luck, you've got this!!!
 
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Gotcha. Well it sounds like you may have just been in your head on test day. Also be careful with practice test retakes, because you will remember more from the first take than you think. But it sounds like a 502+ is absolutely within range. I'd recommend (if you can) buying a UWorld question pack and just powering through those over the next few weeks.

If timing is an issue on the test, maybe also take a couple more practice tests to work on that. For CARS, you just gotta accept that some questions will be difficult and time consuming and have the discipline to mark it and move on. If timing isn't an issue, I say just spend your time on UWorld questions. Oh, and one piece of advice for the chem/phys sections...don't focus as much on memorizing formulas, focus more on memorizing units and what different units are derived from. I cant even tell you how how many times I didn't know a formula but got the question right because I could narrow down the answers by looking at the units in the different answer choices. Good luck, you've got this!!!

Thank you SO much!! Cant wait to improve!
 
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Hi everybody, I have a question and could use some advice. Today I received an interview from one of my top schools and I was ecstatic until I realized that they scheduled me for the exact same day as one of my other top schools.

I feel like honesty and transparency is always best, so I sent them an email saying that I'm really excited about interviewing with them, but that I've already scheduled an interview with another school. I asked if they could schedule me for a different day. In my mind, I feel like they should be understanding. But now I'm kind of worried that it may have come across as me being less interested (which is absolutely not the case).

Do y'all think I'm worrying for no reason? Also, I'm concerned that of they do reschedule, it might be on the same day as another interview. They are the first school that didn't give me the option to choose my date, and it is kind of stressful lol
 
Hi everybody, I have a question and could use some advice. Today I received an interview from one of my top schools and I was ecstatic until I realized that they scheduled me for the exact same day as one of my other top schools.

I feel like honesty and transparency is always best, so I sent them an email saying that I'm really excited about interviewing with them, but that I've already scheduled an interview with another school. I asked if they could schedule me for a different day. In my mind, I feel like they should be understanding. But now I'm kind of worried that it may have come across as me being less interested (which is absolutely not the case).

Do y'all think I'm worrying for no reason? Also, I'm concerned that of they do reschedule, it might be on the same day as another interview. They are the first school that didn't give me the option to choose my date, and it is kind of stressful lol
Most schools don't give a wide option of dates, because they want to fill their closest interview schedules first.
It is common to have a schedule conflict if you are a candidate who is getting multiple interviews.

If this happens to you again, my only extra suggestion is that when you ask to be scheduled for a different date, say "I am available any date except the 12th of Whatever". (12th of Whatever being a date you already have an interview somewhere else.)

School are usually able to accommodate you, but only take them up on their flexibility to the degree really needed, as in:
you have a previously scheduled interview, it's your wedding day, it's an exam your professor won't let you out of.
 
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Most schools don't give a wide option of dates, because they want to fill their closest interview schedules first.
It is common to have a schedule conflict if you are a candidate who is getting multiple interviews.

If this happens to you again, my only extra suggestion is that when you ask to be scheduled for a different date, say "I am available any date except the 12th of Whatever". (12th of Whatever being a date you already have an interview somewhere else.)

School are usually able to accommodate you, but only take them up on their flexibility to the degree really needed, as in:
you have a previously scheduled interview, it's your wedding day, it's an exam your professor won't let you out of.
Thank you!
 
Hello Everyone,

First time posting, I am Asian living in California (so I am probably not considered under-represented). Born in a poor area of Asia, came to America at 16 without knowing a single word of English. First generation to graduate from college.

I need some advice on potential schools to apply. I know it is really late in the cycle already but I will give it a try anyway, I am fine with MD or DO.

I finished PharmD / PhD 5 years ago at a well-respected California pharmacy school. Didn't get along with my thesis committee and the overall experience made me hated research. I ended up not really using my PhD and just went to work as a pharmacist in different outpatient settings. I decided to pursue medicine beginning of this year but kept lagging on the mcat. Finally started studying seriously about 2.5 months ago and just took it recently. I only had time to practice FL3 and FL4 got 506 507, so I am guessing my score is probably around that range when it is released (I know it is a bit low, I will study a lot more if I decide to retake it).

Bio major at a top 3 University of California school
Undergraduate cumulative gpa - 3.73 / bcpm gpa - 3.78
PharmD gpa 3.81
PhD gpa 3.79
11 publications (3 first-authored papers, 1 co-first paper)
10 posters presentations at national conferences
2 oral presentations at national conferences

3 excellent rec letters - 1 from an internal medicine DO, 1 from chemistry professor I worked with and 1 from school of medicine professor (I worked with both of them during undergraduate).

During undergraduate I TA for chemistry lab 3 times, won TA award once. During PhD, I TA for PharmD courses 4 times, won TA award twice.
During PhD, I also volunteered as a science mentor for a nearby high school. I would meet with a couple kids once a week and talked with them about science, homework help, questions about college, and helped them design a project for the high school science fair. Sometimes I would give them a tour of the lab and let them do mini experiments like DNA extraction or running a gel. Two of those kids were able to secure full-ride scholarship to a UC school.

During PhD, I also volunteered as a clinical research associate at the university hospital. Got involved with a couple of clinical trials, helped with patient recruitment and got to see how trials are conducted in academic settings. About 100+ hours.

Not sure if this can count as non-clinical activity - I volunteer on and off at a temple that I also attend regularly. Cleaning, gardening, setting up chairs/tables and cooking/preparing food for weekend activities/prayers for temple patrons. We also regularly prepare/distribute food and clothes for nearby homeless shelter. At least 300+ hours.

Clinical shadowing - I follow a DO around for a year now. We temporary halt the activity in March due to covid. He works both inpatient and outpatient, but I mostly shadow him during his rounds at nursing facilities. At least 150-200 hours.

Medicine interests- physical medicine & rehabilitation or neurology with focus in movement disorder


What are some schools that I should apply to right now, I am aiming for mid-tier and lower-tier schools MD and DO?

Or should I wait another year to improve my mcat for MD schools?

Since I am in my early 30s already and if I decide to go ahead with my application, I feel that my stats will not get me into an MD school at this stage in the cycle, I am hoping to get into a DO program at Oklahoma State University (OSU), University of North Texas, or Michigan State University, or Ohio University. These are state DO schools with good reputation and strong network of affiliated hospitals (and rotation sites). I believe my stats are probably competitive enough for these schools?

Please send your advice and suggestions. Thanks a bunch!
 
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Hello Everyone,

First time posting, I am Asian living in California (so I am probably not considered under-represented). Born in a poor area of Asia, came to America at 16 without knowing a single word of English. First generation to graduate from college.

I need some advice on potential schools to apply. I know it is really late in the cycle already but I will give it a try anyway, I am fine with MD or DO.

I finished PharmD / PhD 5 years ago at a well-respected California pharmacy school. Didn't get along with my thesis committee and the overall experience made me hated research. I ended up not really using my PhD and just went to work as a pharmacist in different outpatient settings. I decided to pursue medicine beginning of this year but kept lagging on the mcat. Finally started studying seriously about 2.5 months ago and just took it recently. I only had time to practice FL3 and FL4 got 506 507, so I am guessing my score is probably around that range when it is released (I know it is a bit low, I will study a lot more if I decide to retake it).

Bio major at a top 3 University of California school
Undergraduate cumulative gpa - 3.73 / bcpm gpa - 3.78
PharmD gpa 3.81
PhD gpa 3.79
11 publications (3 first-authored papers, 1 co-first paper)
10 posters presentations at national conferences
2 oral presentations at national conferences

3 excellent rec letters - 1 from an internal medicine DO, 1 from chemistry professor I worked with and 1 from school of medicine professor (I worked with both of them during undergraduate).

During undergraduate I TA for chemistry lab 3 times, won TA award once. During PhD, I TA for PharmD courses 4 times, won TA award twice.
During PhD, I also volunteered as a science mentor for a nearby high school. I would meet with a couple kids once a week and talked with them about science, homework help, questions about college, and helped them design a project for the high school science fair. Sometimes I would give them a tour of the lab and let them do mini experiments like DNA extraction or running a gel. Two of those kids were able to secure full-ride scholarship to a UC school.

During PhD, I also volunteered as a clinical research associate at the university hospital. Got involved with a couple of clinical trials, helped with patient recruitment and got to see how trials are conducted in academic settings. About 100+ hours.

Not sure if this can count as non-clinical activity - I volunteer on and off at a temple that I also attend regularly. Cleaning, gardening, setting up chairs/tables and cooking/preparing food for weekend activities/prayers for temple patrons. We also regularly prepare/distribute food and clothes for nearby homeless shelter. At least 300+ hours.

Clinical shadowing - I follow a DO around for a year now. We temporary halt the activity in March due to covid. He works both inpatient and outpatient, but I mostly shadow him during his rounds at nursing facilities. At least 150-200 hours.

Medicine interests- physical medicine & rehabilitation or neurology with focus in movement disorder


What are some schools that I should apply to right now, I am aiming for mid-tier and lower-tier schools MD and DO?

Or should I wait another year to improve my mcat for MD schools?

Since I am in my early 30s already and if I decide to go ahead with my application, I feel that my stats will not get me into an MD school at this stage in the cycle, I am hoping to get into a DO program at Oklahoma State University (OSU), University of North Texas, or Michigan State University, or Ohio University. These are state DO schools with good reputation and strong network of affiliated hospitals (and rotation sites). I believe my stats are probably competitive enough for these schools?

Please send your advice and suggestions. Thanks a bunch!

Is there a reason you have to apply this cycle and can't wait until next cycle, where you can submit very early? I think you will be a very strong applicant with a compelling story, but if you submit to AMCAS now, you will not be complete most likely until mid-October at the earliest. And by then, most schools have already scheduled tons of emails and deadlines are beginning to approach for several schools. I can't speak for DO, but I honestly think you should wait until next year for MD schools if possible.
 
Hello Everyone,

First time posting, I am Asian living in California (so I am probably not considered under-represented). Born in a poor area of Asia, came to America at 16 without knowing a single word of English. First generation to graduate from college.

I need some advice on potential schools to apply. I know it is really late in the cycle already but I will give it a try anyway, I am fine with MD or DO.

I finished PharmD / PhD 5 years ago at a well-respected California pharmacy school. Didn't get along with my thesis committee and the overall experience made me hated research. I ended up not really using my PhD and just went to work as a pharmacist in different outpatient settings. I decided to pursue medicine beginning of this year but kept lagging on the mcat. Finally started studying seriously about 2.5 months ago and just took it recently. I only had time to practice FL3 and FL4 got 506 507, so I am guessing my score is probably around that range when it is released (I know it is a bit low, I will study a lot more if I decide to retake it).

Bio major at a top 3 University of California school
Undergraduate cumulative gpa - 3.73 / bcpm gpa - 3.78
PharmD gpa 3.81
PhD gpa 3.79
11 publications (3 first-authored papers, 1 co-first paper)
10 posters presentations at national conferences
2 oral presentations at national conferences

3 excellent rec letters - 1 from an internal medicine DO, 1 from chemistry professor I worked with and 1 from school of medicine professor (I worked with both of them during undergraduate).

During undergraduate I TA for chemistry lab 3 times, won TA award once. During PhD, I TA for PharmD courses 4 times, won TA award twice.
During PhD, I also volunteered as a science mentor for a nearby high school. I would meet with a couple kids once a week and talked with them about science, homework help, questions about college, and helped them design a project for the high school science fair. Sometimes I would give them a tour of the lab and let them do mini experiments like DNA extraction or running a gel. Two of those kids were able to secure full-ride scholarship to a UC school.

During PhD, I also volunteered as a clinical research associate at the university hospital. Got involved with a couple of clinical trials, helped with patient recruitment and got to see how trials are conducted in academic settings. About 100+ hours.

Not sure if this can count as non-clinical activity - I volunteer on and off at a temple that I also attend regularly. Cleaning, gardening, setting up chairs/tables and cooking/preparing food for weekend activities/prayers for temple patrons. We also regularly prepare/distribute food and clothes for nearby homeless shelter. At least 300+ hours.

Clinical shadowing - I follow a DO around for a year now. We temporary halt the activity in March due to covid. He works both inpatient and outpatient, but I mostly shadow him during his rounds at nursing facilities. At least 150-200 hours.

Medicine interests- physical medicine & rehabilitation or neurology with focus in movement disorder


What are some schools that I should apply to right now, I am aiming for mid-tier and lower-tier schools MD and DO?

Or should I wait another year to improve my mcat for MD schools?

Since I am in my early 30s already and if I decide to go ahead with my application, I feel that my stats will not get me into an MD school at this stage in the cycle, I am hoping to get into a DO program at Oklahoma State University (OSU), University of North Texas, or Michigan State University, or Ohio University. These are state DO schools with good reputation and strong network of affiliated hospitals (and rotation sites). I believe my stats are probably competitive enough for these schools?

Please send your advice and suggestions. Thanks a bunch!
The state DO schools you mentioned accept few non residents with no connection to the state. Post your actual MCAT score when available and I can suggest realistic schools to apply to.
 
Is there a reason you have to apply this cycle and can't wait until next cycle, where you can submit very early? I think you will be a very strong applicant with a compelling story, but if you submit to AMCAS now, you will not be complete most likely until mid-October at the earliest. And by then, most schools have already scheduled tons of emails and deadlines are beginning to approach for several schools. I can't speak for DO, but I honestly think you should wait until next year for MD schools if possible.

I am definitely considering applying early next cycle, as a couple of other friends have also suggested that. But since I am much older than traditional applicant, I do want to get in sooner than later, and the areas of practice that I'm interested in are both DO and MD friendly.
 
The state DO schools you mentioned accept few non residents with no connection to the state. Post your actual MCAT score when available and I can suggest realistic schools to apply to.

Will post as soon as I get them, should be early next week. I know a few Californians that have gotten into these schools but I also know it is rare and they don't like to accept oos. I will probably need a couple of private DO schools as backup if I do apply this cycle.
 
I am definitely considering applying early next cycle, as a couple of other friends have also suggested that. But since I am much older than traditional applicant, I do want to get in sooner than later, and the areas of practice that I'm interested in are both DO and MD friendly.
I totally understand, I'm older than traditional applicants too. But keep in mind that in the grand scheme of all the medical training, 1 year more is nothing. Why rush it when you could apply next year and have your pick of schools?
 
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I totally understand, I'm older than traditional applicants too. But keep in mind that in the grand scheme of all the medical training, 2 year more is nothing. Why rush it when you could apply next year and have your pick of schools?

I agree, will think really hard on this the next few day. If I do apply DO, get in to one or a few schools but decide to decline all the acceptance, then am I pretty much blacklist from applying to DO schools again in the future?
 
I agree, will think really hard on this the next few day. If I do apply DO, get in to one or a few schools but decide to decline all the acceptance, then am I pretty much blacklist from applying to DO schools again in the future?
I think it totally depends on your reason for declining. If your reason is that you think you can get into other schools that you like more in the future, then they're not going to like that. If you really want to only do MD, then I don't think you need to apply DO in the first place. There are aspects of their curricula that supplement allopathic training. If you want to learn that, then I say apply DO. If it is because you think you won't have a chance at MD schools because you are submitting late, I say wait and apply MD. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Hi all, I know I'm a bit late to posting on here! I have already applied and am having some doubts about my school list and whether I should last minute add schools or apply DO.

URM: Latina, bilingual
Undergrad: Arizona
Grad: Arizona
Undergrad Major: Molecular and Cellular Biology
Grad: Molecular and Cellular Biology
Undergrad: cGPA: 3.81, sGPA: 3.75
Grad: 4.0 - will be graduating accelerated master's program in may 2021
MCAT: 509 (128/128/126/127)
Research: ~2500 hrs - 4 yrs in same asthma research laboratory, 2 poster presentations - 1 first place, 1 radio interview, 1 pub in progress
Clinical Volunteering: ~175 hrs volunteer at free health clinic serving uninsured Latino community, as well as at mobile health clinic providing free basic health screenings in Spanish to underserved areas in southern AZ
Shadowing- ~140 hrs - 100 abroad in Spain, 20 hrs in US prior to COVID19, then 0
Other/Leadership: 2 years as president of a women's club sport at university (4 yrs as player, D-III for two years, D-I for two years),
Non-clinical Volunteering/ tutoring: volunteer for community youth league of the above sport, also volunteer on my the youth committee for my community's organization that plans leagues for the sport and I manage the social media, undergrad teaching assistant for one semester, grad paid teaching assistant for summer class
Work experience: 2 yrs of paid research work, summer graduate teaching assistant

School list:
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
UCSD
UCI
UCLA
USC
University of Virginia
University of Florida
University of Vermont
Rutgers NJMS
Tufts
UConn
Georgetown
UMass
VCU
TCU & UNTHSC
Miami Miller
OHSU
Colorado
UACOM-Tucson
UACOM-Phoenix
UB Jacobs
Brown Alpert
University of Washington
NYU long island
Indiana University

Basically, I built this school list without MSAR and with the help of people who did not know much about MD admissions, and I am now worried it is all reach schools. But please let me know if I am just overworried haha
 
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Hi all, I know I'm a bit late to posting on here! I have already applied and am having some doubts about my school list and whether I should last minute add schools or apply DO.

URM: Latina, bilingual
Undergrad: Arizona
Grad: Arizona
Undergrad Major: Molecular and Cellular Biology
Grad: Molecular and Cellular Biology
Undergrad: cGPA: 3.81, sGPA: 3.75
Grad: 4.0 - will be graduating accelerated master's program in may 2021
MCAT: 509 (128/128/126/127)
Research: ~2500 hrs - 4 yrs in same asthma research laboratory, 2 poster presentations - 1 first place, 1 radio interview, 1 pub in progress
Clinical Volunteering: ~175 hrs volunteer at free health clinic serving uninsured Latino community, as well as at mobile health clinic providing free basic health screenings in Spanish to underserved areas in southern AZ
Shadowing- ~140 hrs - 100 abroad in Spain, 20 hrs in US prior to COVID19, then 0
Other/Leadership: 2 years as president of a women's club sport at university (4 yrs as player, D-III for two years, D-I for two years),
Non-clinical Volunteering/ tutoring: volunteer for community youth league of the above sport, also volunteer on my the youth committee for my community's organization that plans leagues for the sport and I manage the social media, undergrad teaching assistant for one semester, grad paid teaching assistant for summer class
Work experience: 2 yrs of paid research work, summer graduate teaching assistant

School list:
Harvard
Johns Hopkins
UCSD
UCI
UCLA
USC
University of Virginia
University of Florida
University of Vermont
Rutgers NJMS
Tufts
UConn
Georgetown
UMass
VCU <- rejected :(
TCU & UNTHSC
Miami Miller
OHSU
Colorado
UACOM-Tucson
UACOM-Phoenix
UB Jacobs
Brown Alpert
University of Washington
NYU long island
Indiana University <- got an interview invite :)

Basically, I built this school list without MSAR and with the help of people who did not know much about MD admissions, and I am now worried it is all reach schools. But please let me know if I am just overworried haha
You do have several state public schools on your list that accept very few non residents with no connection to the state. For example, U Washington accepts less than 1% of applicants who are not from states in the Northwest. I suggest adding more schools this week and consider any of these:
Creighton
Loyola
Medical College Wisconsin
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Quinnipiac
Einstein
Seton Hall
NOVA MD
Kaiser
 
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Hey guys! I know I'm posting this late, but just wanted to hear your opinions. I got my mcat score back in Aug and scored a 505. Wasn't too thrilled, but had already sent in my app, so decided to go forward with my app. Let me know what you guys think on my chances anywhere lol!



Numbers: 3.82cgpa, 505 Urm: AA Residency: NC

  • Clinical volunteering: 102 . Hospice
  • Non clinical volunteering: ~ 700. Also includes a service project I founded dealing with girls education in an African country.
  • Shadowing: ~150 ( out of US).
  • Research: this is clinical research experience coming from 1 medical school and a top cancer institute ~4000hrs no papers/posters/abstracts
  • Leadership: ~100hrs
  • Work: worked all throughout undergrad ~1000+. I also had one summer internship at a well known medical school. It was on healthcare management.
LOR:

  • committee letter with 2 science profs and 2 non-science profs
  • Current PI
 
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@Faha Thank you! I added UW because I would prefer to stay on the west coast and I do have clinical volunteering experience with underserved communities, but also yes I know my chances are extremely low! Thank you for your suggestions! Do you think it is too late to add schools or should I just go for it since its better than reapplying?
 
@Faha Thank you! I added UW because I would prefer to stay on the west coast and I do have clinical volunteering experience with underserved communities, but also yes I know my chances are extremely low! Thank you for your suggestions! Do you think it is too late to add schools or should I just go for it since its better than reapplying?
It is not too late to add schools in the next week but submit your secondaries as soon as possible.
 
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URM- Mexican American, lived in Mexico and England for a while. I speak Spanish, English, and competent French
Undergrad: Smal private school in Texas
Major: biology
cGPA- 3.95
sGPA- 3.93
MCAT- 514 (129/126/130/129)
Research- ~600 hrs in different labs. No pubs but a few presentations at my school and surrounding schools
Volunteering- . 150 hrs at different organizations. I did special Olympics and free tutoring
Shadowing- 100 hrs, orthopedic surgery, anesthesiology, and pediatrics

I am a Tx resident and my goal would be Baylor or UT Southwestern. Do you guys recommend any other schools for my stats?
You should receive many interviews from your Texas schools with your stats. Apply to all your Texas MD schools. Are there any other regions of the country that interest you ?
 
URM- AA
Undergrad: Mid-tier public school in Maryland
Major: Functional bio
Undergrad cGPA- 3.23
Undergrad sGPA- 2.8 (not counting post bacc)
Post-Bacc Masters GPA (44 Units total): 3.85 so far in the program
MCAT- 500 (125/124/126/125) (considering retaking)
Work: Medical Assistant: 1500+ hours (and counting), Scribe: 1200+ Hours, Inner city Middle School Science Teacher: 2 years
Volunteer: Run an after school pre-health club to help connect my kids with medical professionals who share their experience/answer their questions
Shadowing- 300 hrs Anesthesiologist
Maryland Resident

Strong commitment to underserved communities, would like to continue throughout medical school.
Hoping for a school list, thanks! good luck everyone.

@Faha would you be able to provide a list of MD/DO schools that I would be able to apply to if you have time?
 
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URM- AA Male
Undergrad: Mid-tier public school in Maryland
Major: Functional bio
Undergrad cGPA- 3.23
Undergrad sGPA- 2.8
Post-Bacc Masters GPA (48 Units total): 3.85
MCAT- 500 (125/124/126/125) (considering retaking)
Work: Medical Assistant: 1500+ hours (and counting), Scribe: 1200+ Hours, Inner city Middle School Science Teacher: 2 years
Volunteer: Run an after school pre-health club to help connect my kids with medical professionals who share their experience/answer their questions
Shadowing- 300 hrs Anesthesiologist
Maryland Resident

Strong commitment to underserved communities, would like to continue throughout medical school.
Hoping for a school list, thanks! good luck everyone
Are you applying this cycle? It is pretty late. Is your app verified?
 
Next cycle. Wanted to get a list so I could spend my time attempting to pre-write secondaries
Oh I see. Was your masters an SMP? A lot of schools require a 3.0 minimum so that 2.8 sGPA might present a problem. I think it is kind of early to prewrite secondaries for next year. I feel like you could spend the next year learning and gaining new experiences to write stronger essays next year. Plus, the prompts might change. But if I were in your shoes, I would figure out a way to rectify the 2.8 gpa, unless your gGPA is from an SMP. I agree that you could also retake the MCAT if you think you can improve.
 
Its a post bacc but it's going towards a degree so I do not think it contributes to my undergrad sGPA despite the credits all being upper-level sciences. However, I am about to take some additional community college science classes. Not sure if those would be transferable to my undergrad GPA since I already graduated. Would you know? Also thanks for the advice that's definitely something I will consider doing. However, gaining new experiences will be a bit of a challenge because I am still a teacher and all the virtual teaching Is new and time-consuming as you might imagine :confused: The MCAT retake would take priority for me
 
Its a post bacc but it's going towards a degree so I do not think it contributes to my undergrad sGPA despite the credits all being upper-level sciences. However, I am about to take some additional community college science classes. Not sure if those would be transferable to my undergrad GPA since I already graduated. Would you know? Also thanks for the advice that's definitely something I will consider doing. However, gaining new experiences will be a bit of a challenge because I am still a teacher and all the virtual teaching Is new and time-consuming as you might imagine :confused: The MCAT retake would take priority for me
I believe a 4-year college is a preference for many schools, but you got to do what you got to do. I feel like getting it over a 3.0 is the most important thing so if that means taking community college classes, then I feel like you will be okay. All transcripts get sent to AMCAS and all undergraduate level courses go towards your AMCAS GPA so they would be transferable to your undergraduate GPA. Yeah, COVID-19 has messed everything up. I think, for me at least, I didn't know how to write the "application way" until when I was starting to apply. I feel like you will grow and realize things as it goes closer to the application cycle that will probably help you write stronger essays. Now seems a little early but it is up to you. I just would not spend too much time writing secondaries without getting the primary app together first (GPA > 3.0, recommendation, personal statements etc).
 
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I believe a 4-year college is a preference for many schools, but you got to do what you got to do. I feel like getting it over a 3.0 is the most important thing so if that means taking community college classes, then I feel like you will be okay. All transcripts get sent to AMCAS and all undergraduate level courses go towards your AMCAS GPA so they would be transferable to your undergraduate GPA. Yeah, COVID-19 HAS messed everything up. I think, for me at least, I didn't know how to write the "application way" until when I was starting to apply. I feel like you will grow and realize things as it goes closer to the application cycle that will probably help you write stronger essays. Now seems a little early but it is up to you. I just would not spend too much time writing secondaries without getting the primary app together first (GPA > 3.0, recommendation, personal statements etc).

Thank you for the advice. We will all come out on top of this pandemic, I'm confident! Good luck with your cycle!
 
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URM- AA Male
Undergrad: Mid-tier public school in Maryland
Major: Functional bio
Undergrad cGPA- 3.23
Undergrad sGPA- 2.8 (not counting post bacc)
Post-Bacc Masters GPA (48 Units total): 3.85
MCAT- 500 (125/124/126/125) (considering retaking)
Work: Medical Assistant: 1500+ hours (and counting), Scribe: 1200+ Hours, Inner city Middle School Science Teacher: 2 years
Volunteer: Run an after school pre-health club to help connect my kids with medical professionals who share their experience/answer their questions
Shadowing- 300 hrs Anesthesiologist
Maryland Resident

Strong commitment to underserved communities, would like to continue throughout medical school.
Hoping for a school list, thanks! good luck everyone.

@Faha would you be able to provide a list of MD/DO schools that I would be able to apply to if you have time?
I suggest these MD schools with your stats:
U Maryland
Howard
Meharry
Morehouse
UCLA Drew
West Virginia
George Washington
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Seton Hall
New York Medical College
Vermont
Quinnipiac
Oakland Beaumont
Wayne State
Wright State
Indiana
Medical College Wisconsin
Loyola
Rush
Creighton
TCU-UNT
NOVA MD
For DO schools I suggest these
PCOM (all schools)
WVSOM
MU-COM
ACOM
NYIT-AR
ARCOM
UIWSOM
WCU-COM
LECOM (all schools)
DMU-COM
KCU-COM
ATSU (both schools)
TUNCOM
 
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Its a post bacc but it's going towards a degree so I do not think it contributes to my undergrad sGPA despite the credits all being upper-level sciences. However, I am about to take some additional community college science classes. Not sure if those would be transferable to my undergrad GPA since I already graduated. Would you know? Also thanks for the advice that's definitely something I will consider doing. However, gaining new experiences will be a bit of a challenge because I am still a teacher and all the virtual teaching Is new and time-consuming as you might imagine :confused: The MCAT retake would take priority for me
Yes, take those community college science classes since if you raise your sGPA to 3.0 it will significantly increase your chances for interviews. Those classes will count towards your undergraduate sGPA.
 
You should receive many interviews from your Texas schools with your stats. Apply to all your Texas MD schools. Are there any other regions of the country that interest you ?
Yes, I applied to all of them. I actually just got my first interview at UT San Antonio. I also applied to a broad range of schools in the US:
- Boston University
- Duke
- Cornell
- Wake Forest
- Harvard
- University of Maryland SOM
- Emory
- Mayo Clinic
- Stanford
- Sydney Kimmel
- Western Michigan
- Miller School of Medicine (Miami)
- University of Pittsburg
- Brown University
- University of Michigan
- Case Western
- Dartmouth
- Tufts
@Faha, do you think that this list was well-balanced for my stats?
 
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Yes, take those community college science classes since if you raise your sGPA to 3.0 it will significantly increase your chances for interviews. Those classes will count towards your undergraduate sGPA.

Thank you for the list, helps a lot!. I just want to confirm one thing because I keep getting different responses (even from AMCAS). So the post bacc I'm in (that happens to grant a masters in the process) that I have 40+ credits of science classes (3.85) will NOT count raising my undergrad sGPA of 2.8 but the community college classes will?? Is this not the point of a post bacc? I don't want to be screened out so I will do whatever it takes to raise it but I also don't want to have to spend unnecessary money during this time on additional cc classes if I really don't have to.

Thank you for your patience, I know I ask a lot of questions :X3:
 
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Thank you for the list, helps a lot!. I just want to confirm one thing because I keep getting different responses (even from AMCAS). So the post bacc I'm in (that happens to grant a masters in the process) that I have 40+ credits of science classes (3.85) will NOT count raising my undergrad sGPA of 2.8 but the community college classes will?? Is this not the point of a post bacc? I don't want to be screened out so I will do whatever it takes to raise it but I also don't want to have to spend unnecessary money during this time on additional cc classes if I really don't have to.

Thank you for your patience, I know I ask a lot of questions :X3:
You will need to check with AMCAS to see if your Masters science courses will be included in your undergraduate sGPA. Community College science courses do count toward your undergraduate sGPA.
 
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Yes, I applied to all of them. I actually just got my first interview at UT San Antonio. I also applied to a broad range of schools in the US:
- Boston University
- Duke
- Cornell
- Wake Forest
- Harvard
- University of Maryland SOM
- Emory
- Mayo Clinic
- Stanford
- Sydney Kimmel
- Western Michigan
- Miller School of Medicine (Miami)
- University of Pittsburg
- Brown University
- University of Michigan
- Case Western
- Dartmouth
- Tufts
@Faha, do you think that this list was well-balanced for my stats?
Yes.
 
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Thank you so much! I appreciate it. Interview season should start soon for me, so I hope it all goes well! :)
 
Hello everyone, I've been watching this thread for a while and would love some input, especially form @Faha . best of luck with your applications.

Can you share your opinion on my MD school list?

URM: Black, Female, CA
Undergrad: UC school
Major: Human Biology, Psychology, BS and BA 2020 grad
MCAT: 492--->504(125/128/125/126)
cGPA: 3.6
sGPA: 3.41(amcas)
nonsgpa: 3.9(amcas)
Research: 1105hrs, Home university research in infectious disease one pub 4th author, and mention in another publication from REU program. 3 posters all 1st author.
Leadership: 600hrs reported (I have more but was unable to mention it in the work/activities) President, director, and co-head to a committee, contributed to 4 conferences.
Paid Employment not med: 1174hrs, Student Assistant in a core lab facility, legal intern.
Tutoring: 400hrs, certified in Biology, Psychology.
Volunteering not med: 700hrs total 350hrs Research Assistant for translational research, 350 hours Community Service in schools county.
Volunteering med: 120hrs total 40hr abroad, 80hrs US.
Shadowing: 115hrs, OBGYN, Family, Pediatrics, Anesthesiologist, General Surgeon, infectious disease.
Hobbies: 1500hrs, art, since college.
Awards: merit scholarships, 3 years totaling $3500, Graduation honors with honors in Human Biology and highest honors in Psychology.

School list:

UCLA
UCLA-Drew
Kaiser
UC Riverside
Loma Linda
UC Davis
Boston (took classes here before)
Loyola
U Illinois
Wayne
Tufts
Howard
Jacobs(Buffalo)
Michigan State
Eastern Virginia
Virginia Commonwealth
Geisinger Commonwealth
George Washington
Drexel
Jefferson
Quinnipiac
Tulane
Medical College Wisconsin
Georgetown
Albert Einstein
Pennsylvania State
University of Vermont
Albany Medical College
New York Medical College
Creighton
You have a good list and should receive several interviews. You could add any of these schools:
UC Irvine
Meharry
Morehouse
Miami
St. Louis
Pittsburgh
Ohio State
Indiana
 
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Hi all, I was wondering if you guys think I should add more schools to my list. Any input is appreciated. :)

Background: Female, veteran, disadvantaged, FAP recipient, technically a CA applicant but lived in AZ for 20+ years
URM: Hispanic (Mexican),
Undergrad: U of Arizona, 5+ years ago
Major: Neuroscience and Cognitive Science/Molecular and Cellular Biology
MCAT: 509, evenly distributed
cGPA: 3.6
sGPA: 3.4
(Note: I had hardships during my junior/senior year with my mother being sick that affected my GPA and I have addressed in my application)
Post-bacc GPA: 4.0, most are science classes
Paid Clinical Employment: 2100 hours as a medical assistant, 3800 as a sleep technologist (for which I am licensed- RPSGT). Not including my clinical research position as it is listed below
Research: ~1000 undergrad research experience in psychology labs. 7500 hours doing clinical research as a RPSGT at a T30 school doing sleep, pulmonary, and critical care research. I have 2 first author abstracts accepted at an international conference and am on several other papers + abstracts as middle author.
Clinical/Non Clinical Volunteering: 400 at a homeless women's shelter, many of which I was a lead overnight volunteer. Currently volunteering at a company whose focus is on homeless and elderly populations, should have ~150 hours by matriculation (cut short due to COVID, yadayada). 300 hours during undergrad visiting elementary schools to engage with students about neuroscience.
Paid Employment not med: A bunch of hours as an Airman in US Air Force, ~2200 hours as an assistant manager at an ice cream shop, 2700 hours as a behavioral health technician working with kids with behavioral diagnoses through Arizona's Medicaid program (I didn't classify this as clinical but I did do a lot of clinical stuff here)
Tutoring: 960 hours as a lab instructor for introductory biology lab
Shadowing: 55 hours across different specialties such as neurology, neurosurgery, sleep medicine, and critical care


School list: (Note: I passed through the schools with screens very quickly and currently I am complete at all of these schools)
Albany Medical
Rosalind Franklin
Creighton
Quillen
Quinnipiac
Dartmouth
Georgetown
Kaiser Permanente
Loyola
New York Medical College
Oakland University William Beaumont
Rush
Tulane
USF
University of Arizona College of Medicine - Phoenix
University of Arizona College of Medicine – Tucson
University of California, Davis
University of California, Irvine,
University of California, Los Angeles
University of California, Riverside
University of California, San Diego
University of Colorado
University of Michigan
Virginia Commonwealth
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Wayne State
Wright State
 
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